EQ? Gas Explosion?? Something Just Shook Houses In Indianapolis!

So you know Ms Monseratte, Shirley's boyfriend? You know of these activities he has been involved in? Why not report it to the authorities?

Interesting comments!

After watching the video these are some of my observations and thoughts on the story.


- She repeatedly talks about going to the casino with her boyfriend. Someone has a gambling problem.

- She is obviously medicated and comfortably numb.

- She is a nurse. Nurses experience death and human tragedy on a daily basis which leads them to be very good at coping and a bit calloused.

-English is a second language for her. She is "thinking" in Spanish while speaking in English. I would venture to guess if the interview was conducted in Spanish she would be a lot more emotional and animated.

-She is wearing a Harley Davidson jacket. (Your motorcycle theory holds up.)

- I would like to see an interview with her ex-husband. I'm sure he is totally pissed that his wife is living in his house with some other man, sleeping in his bed and spending his money gambling and drinking at the casino.

- John Shirley and Mark Leonard appear to be the ones who have cause to do something like blow up a house.

This is such a tragedy for all the people that live in the neighborhood. So many lives have been destroyed. I hope they get to the bottom of this and the perpetrators are punished to the full extent of the law!!

These poor women HAVE reported him. There is an open class action out on that guy from what I understand. It is clear to me at this point who is behind this. I posted the original post about this guy being a loser and if it isn't all his fault I will be surprised. Just don't rule it out because the blast looks funny to some of you. As far as I know nobody here is an expert on what blasts look like ...

I'm still curious how they know which house blew up first?

Is this the same Mark Leonard you are talking about?

Mark Leonard

Mugshots.com ID: 21651353


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I agree. Go forward and report this to the police. I live very close to this neighborhood, and know the residents want and need closure, so they can move on with their lives.

Please report what you know.

Yeah, it looks like the center of the blast is between the two houses that were totally obliterated. I could see one house disappearing with only a scorch mark from an internal gas leak, but not two.

Being that nobody officially wants to blame gas, neither the ntsb nor the gas company, there must be some behind the scenes arm twisting to decide who is going to lie about it and blame the gas or come up with a pure alternative fairy tale.

Gas companies have to have good lawyers just because of the nature of the beast. They would tend to hang onto the "our investigation is not complete" approach as long as possible rather than "it wasn't us" this early in the game if they weren't sure.

If the gas company was able to recover an intact meter or two, they could easily determine whether or not enough gas went through it to cause this much destruction.

They have a record from the last monthly reading for every house in the neighborhood. A meter involved in a house with a major appliance leak would show an unusually high reading since the last reading compared to the others. This ain't rocket science.

So either no intact meters were recovered to prove it wasn't gas related, which I doubt, or there is some serious effort being made to spin a plausible not gas related story or some serious effort to get somebody to lie that it was gas related going on behind the scenes.

PLEASE report your information to the local police, fire marshall, and/or FBI.

Innocent people were killed in that blast, not to mention hundreds put through horrific stress!

Editted to add contacts:

To report Indiana insurance fraud:

To regulate the insurance industry and cut down on fraudulent activity the IDOI and the NAIC ask that any suspected fraudulent activity regarding insurance brokers, insurance companies, or insurance plans be reported.
If you have been a victim or have witnessed fraud please contact the NAIC.

For other types of fraud please contact National Fraud Information at 800-835-6422

For information regarding fraudulent insurance activity, please contact:
Nick Mann
Deputy Commissioner, Enforcement Division
317-233-9431
[email protected]

[link to www.in.gov]

Indianapolis FBI Office:

8825 Nelson B Klein Pkwy
Indianapolis, IN 46250
Phone: (317) 595-4000
Fax: (317) 845-7105
E-mail: [email protected]

[link to www.fbi.gov]

Indianapolis Fire Marshall:

Phone: (317) 232-2222

Last Edited by goodmockingbird on 11/14/2012 03:49 PM

They found a meter that was in good enough condition to test so you can bet they got a reading from it. To fill a house that size with enough gas to blow it up along with the one next door would take 10k+ cubic feet or so which would certainly register on the meter as being higher than the surrounding homes for the same time period.

Citizens says it conducted the following tests in cooperation with the National Transportation Safety Board and the Indiana Utility Regulatory Commission:

· Leak detection survey of the entire Richmond Hill subdivision.

· Pressure tests of the 2-inch diameter gas main and all underground service lines on Fieldfare Way.

· Functional test of the gas meter at the home where the explosion is believed to have originated.

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hi, any new updates? especially of the injured from both the initial explosion n the non responsive of the 1st night?? i see we have a problem of explosions ,plane crash, 2 saw mills <on 1 day>. seems to b a lot of heat with little or phony explanations.

score! those impacted rec'd free Pacers tickets. that should fix everything all better.

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there really isn't much new on the local news today, i suppose once someone is arrested for insurance fraud things will heat up again.

if this turns out to be insurance fraud, which seems very likely at this point, i have a theory on why the blast was worst than they would have anticipated - it was so warm out all day saturday the heat prob didn't kick on so the house filled and filled with gas much longer than they expected. i'm not an expert, so that's just a guess. but i just can't wrap my head around them purposely trying to kill the neighbors too. that part at least had to be a true accident, right??

and, it seems it's going to wind up being ins fraud. we still don't know for sure and who knows, those people could be set up. it wouldn't really be that hard to target a home with financial and marital difficulties, now would it? not in this day and age where every bit of info about you is pretty much available to even the general public, let alone the govt.

as for the other house exploding in Indiana, they seem to be keeping pretty quiet, i found the wthr link to it this morning but now i don't see anything at all. i don't think it's related, but you never know, there's plenty going on to make anything possible i suppose.

Last Edited by scorpio66 on 11/14/2012 06:35 PM

I just found out a lady from my church there families house is 6 houses down and its totally destroyed there having to live in a hotel from this. I didnt get to talk to her or anything but just found out tonight

they have his name and info, but "no mugshot available."

Is the Amtrak service up yet?

This thread has gone full retard.

Ok, all this sounds plausible, but I need to ask, what does having a Harley or motorcycle for that matter have anything to do with the rest of the story? Are you trying to imply that because they have a Harley they are bad people? I take offense to that implication and I am sure others out there would as well.

I own a Harley and have many friends that do as well. They are not involved in shady things nor am I. Please quit perpetrating this stereotype.

I am a motorcycle enthusiast and enjoy being in the wind. All it's really about is, two wheels, an engine and being on the road. Brand really doesn't matter. However, I also happen to be an American that likes to buy Made in the USA products when I can. I chose Harley over the other US made bikes simply because, the other companies do not have the aftermarket part and accessory choices that you get with a Harley. Once those other companies have been established longer and have more of an aftermarket following I'll take a closer look at them.

The stereotype that all Harley riders are in "Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs" is ridiculous and completely outdated. Please quit thinking we are all like Marlon Brando, Jax Taylor or Sonny Barger...


Last Edited by Sol Neman on 11/15/2012 01:08 AM

No one cares about your Harley Davidson fantaticism, get over it. This thread is about something much more important and serious than you. If you don't like what people say in this thread, then get lost and go ride your stupid harley, no one cares!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're missing the bigger point...

I am quite aware that there are more important things in life and the times are very serious right now. Just look around...we are living in chaos. However, if you cannot get over your intolerant mind set or have the ability to put aside petty differences it will never get any better.

It is because of assumptions, pre-concieved notions, and stereotypes such as the example of the Harley rider that keep all of us divided!

Dr. John Goodpaster investigates explosions for a living, as the director of Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis Forensic and Investigative Sciences Program.

At the request of RTV6, he reviewed the aftermath of the deadly south side explosion that engulfed homes in flames late Saturday night, killing two people and creating a ripple of destruction.

"When you look at this damage, it literally does look like a bomb went off. It's catastrophic," said Goodpaster. "In terms of making a parallel, it's equivalent to literally having a bomb dropped on you, so like a military ammunition dropped from an airplane would cause similar damage to this."


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i just read that too!

I have a question, maybe some of you can help with this. Of all the reports of explosions recently in this country, I am wondering if they are all occurring at night time?

Last Edited by El Quisqueyano on 11/15/2012 09:58 AM

co intel prob hard at work on this one lol

To completely obliterate a house it would appear the explosion wave front would have to be very tight. Meaning the speed of ignition and expansion of gas was very high. I find it hard to believe a house filling with gas would be able to have enough oxidiser (oxygen) to allow the gas to burn fast enough. What I'm saying is the explosion start with ignition along with available oxygen and as soon as the oxygen is used up, the expansion of gases slows down considerably.

What provided the additional oxygen or oxidative action ?????

This is all basic high school level chemistry.

It's the shockwave of expanding gases which cause the damage and secondary the burning heat of the hot gases.

"Monserrate Shirley, Mark Leonard plead for privacy after 'nightmare' of Indianapolis explosion"

[link to www.theindychannel.com]

If this article made it up already, I apologize.

Sol, this is not disparaging Harleys. The point that is being made is that a previous poster, who apparently knows the occupants of the demolished house, stated that there was a stolen Harley in the garage. The second poster noted that Monserrat was wearing a Harley tee-shirt, leading credence to the theory they liked harleys, and may have on in their garage.

what if they "accidentally" left a hair straightener or curling iron on... wouldn't that eventually get hot enough to start a fire and then explode all the gas that had built up?

Gas explosions are way too slow to create a pressure wave of sufficient energy to do this damage. THIS IS NOT A GAS EXLOSION!!!

I've seen dozens of them. Some up close. They don't do this kind of damage. If this is a "gas" explosion, the "gas" is not cooking gas (natural or propane). Now, acetylene, that is another story. The shock/pressure wave from a basement full of that could do this, we'll, except for all the fire. That's another thing... Gas explosions that have fires, those fires are contained. ...usually at the gas source. In this case there was reportedly fires EVERYWHERE.

It's all just so bizarro.