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"Pillar of Defense (Cloud)" - Israel & Hamas Agree to Gaza Cease Fire

 
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Students in Tel Aviv not being allowed to leave schools in wake of bus blast outside Army office building - @Haaretzcom
 Quoting: Newshunter


That's it... ramp up the fear, create the illusion that the enemy is stalking their streets.
 Quoting: C3r371c


Yeah...because those rockets aren't real...

Stop smoking crack...it's clearly affecting your judgment.

hf
 Quoting: Devoted Follower 28055738


No sir. The rockets don't normally have the effect of paralysing the Israeli infrastructure in a city like Tel Aviv.

And this latest news about the school kids being kept inside schools unable to leave is related to the explosion on the bus in Tel Aviv.

Pay attention.
 Quoting: C3r371c


Well...you clearly seem to indicate that there is no real threat from Hamas...

I can't fathom how you managed to come to that conclusion unless you happen to blind and deaf...

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Israelis were dead set against it.

Now they will want it for sure
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23745821


Funny how that works huh?

kinda like it was planned out

textwork , as they say



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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19897785


So, since it would have been stupid for the anti-Israel forces to do this, you assume it was a false flag?

The rockets into Israel were stupid too, and they weren't false flags were they?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28008747


false flag to ensure ground invasion

mission complete
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23745821


Hamas' military wing already took credit for it.

Sorry to burst everyone's mental disorder bubble.5a
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Somehow I can see this unfold into something much larger. Yesterday I could just feel the heat when I was downtown to hang around with some friends. Some of my friends are Muslims and I could just feel that there was something in the air and atmosphere around these friends. And as soon as I started talking about the situation in the Middle East and about the ongoing situation between the Palestinians in Gaza and the Israeli people they just started to go all aggressive in a verbal way just to make sure that they would point out how they feel about the situation in the Middle East and how they feel about the Palestinians in Gaza, and they did make sure that I and all the others that were there got their message and their viewing point of the situation.

And yes they seriously pointed out that they were supporting their Muslim brothers ans sisters in Gaza and that they would even support them in a very wrong way, by committing to terrorist activities if that was needed to support them in Gaza. When I started asking what they were meaning with that they seriously tried to point out that if the Israeli violence would not stop, they would try to do something to those who support the Israeli aggression here in the Netherlands. And I can assure you that a lot of people support the Israeli people on this situation we have got going on in the Middle East right now. When I asked them why they would do that, they simply told me that this is something they were told to do so because the Koran asks them to. So I asked them if they always do stuff because books are telling them to do so, and they even got a bit insulted when I did that. So I basically told them to go to Gaza and help out over there, and leave the Netherlands, cause with their ideas and ways of living their lives they just do not fit into our modern Western society. They even got a bit more mad right after that. Two of my friends even left. So after trying to keep talking about it, I started noticing they were totally pissed because of what I was trying to talk about with them. After an hour or so I decided to leave a bit earlier than I had planned to do because the atmosphere was seriously not nice.

So yes, I can see this conflict escalating big time! Because a terrorist attack like we saw today in that bus in Israel could happen tomorrow in any town or city in Western Europe. Lots of Muslims live here and lots of them just don't care about our views on life and our ways of expressing what we feel or like to do. They don't respect (most of them don't) our Western ways of life. But on the other hand they want us to except whatever crazy things they find common to do or think. So yes, we can consider those Muslims as ticking time bombs that are ready to explode any time soon when the situation really starts to escalate.

We will see what happens next.
 Quoting: jahbulon49


It can turn bad in a matter of minutes, but then again on the other hand, it might as well take a couple of more days before we see drastic changes transforming the situation in the Middle East into a Worldwide war...
 Quoting: jahbulon49



Are you really a Nether? Very nicely written!!!
 Quoting: MisterHouston


Yes Mister Houston, I am indeed really a Dutch citizen from the Netherlands. I was born here in the 70's grew up here for a couple of years, left the country to go live in Germany, after that I moved to Canada and from there on I moved to the United States for a couple of years and from there I left the united States to go back to Europe / Middle East where I traveled a bit here and there, so I know Gaza, I know Israel, and i am aware of the size this ticking time-bomb is that we will probably see explode on a live stream one of these days. Maybe even today.

After living in the Middle East for a while it was time for me to serve in the Dutch Navy, this was such a fun thing to do, that I decided to stay there after my duty was over and I signed up for some extra time. After 4,5 years serving in the Navy, I made a move into the Dutch Army. While being in the Navy and in the Army, I served in Iraq and Afghanistan, so I have been on that side of the story as well, and I can assure you that it seriously is true that there are two or more sides to every story.

Over the years I have learned so much, that I need to take in mind whenever I need to make a decision or whenever I need to take action. And I knew that this big war in the Middle East was about to start anytime soon now. I am prepared for this, trust me. And I just simply somehow knew all along that it would start with Israel and the Palestinians and it will unfold into such a very frightening situation all over Western Europe because of the mass numbers of Muslim immigrants that the lazy socialistic Europeans have imported to Western Europe because they were afraid to get their hands dirty from doing any kind of dirty jobs.

Yeah it truly is a sad idea that they screwed it up big time , these lazy socialists. And they did it all with a reason, and this reason is about to unveil itself very very soon.

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IAF bombed soccer stadium in Gaza, according to reports. Al Jazeera says at least 10 explosions.
 Quoting: DoorBert


They must hate football????

hiding

How is that even possible





5a
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lol, zlatan's father is a muslim and zlatan has a muslim last name, but yes, football is awesome.
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Sorry, Tel Aviv bus video.
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Well I can say for sure, that the cease fire talk was horseshit.

invasion inbound
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That's it... ramp up the fear, create the illusion that the enemy is stalking their streets.
 Quoting: C3r371c


Yeah...because those rockets aren't real...

Stop smoking crack...it's clearly affecting your judgment.

hf
 Quoting: Devoted Follower 28055738


No sir. The rockets don't normally have the effect of paralysing the Israeli infrastructure in a city like Tel Aviv.

And this latest news about the school kids being kept inside schools unable to leave is related to the explosion on the bus in Tel Aviv.

Pay attention.
 Quoting: C3r371c


Well...you clearly seem to indicate that there is no real threat from Hamas...

I can't fathom how you managed to come to that conclusion unless you happen to blind and deaf...

hugs
 Quoting: Devoted Follower 28055738


Hamas is not the only threat. Israel will be destroyed if the Jews dont leave.

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false flag to ensure ground invasion

mission complete
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:bullshit:
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IDF dropped the leaflets telling civilians to evacuate Gazan danger zones, seems like they were dropped on deaf ears or ignorant minds. Sad how Hamas won't warn civilians to evacuate, contrarily - they target the civilians (and use them as human shields). There is no justification for that sort of inhumane behaviour.

Why not just get out of the Gaza and move to a neighbouring Arab country where there is ample land, and acceptance? Why don't the Arab nations accept refugees in an attempt to dissolve the conflict? What is there to gain by staying in Gaza and terrorising? It's not like the Arab world has a shortage of land or funds.

Israel gave the Palestinians Gaza after they lost it in a war, but on the condition of peace - most conquerors would not be so generous as Israel to cede such land. What gives Hamas the confidence that Israel will not go back and reclaim this land again in another war?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28201479


Right, firstly... how can you warn civilians to evacuate when you have no idea where your home made rocket is going to land?

Well then, maybe they shouldn't be firing them? Well yes, that's a given, but still.

This myth of Hamas using civilians as human shields is ridiculous. You are talking about one of the most over populated yet smallest patches of land on the entire planet. It doesn't matter where Hamas launch their rockets from there are going to be civilians in the vacinity.

Now, I am not defending the actions of Hamas here, in fact I'd like to go on record as saying I support the innocent people of both Palestine and Israel, Muslim and Jew and all that's in between.

Imagine if someone came knocking on your door and told you to leave, cause there is a good chance your house might get bombed if you don't. And also that you really should go somewhere else because you don't really belong there, and they want to build new houses for other people... would you just nod and leave? Or would you dig your heels in?
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Well last night the situation looked more hopeful for a ceasefire, but with the bus bombing all bets are off, total war coming in the middle east sadly, possibly Assad in Syria has something to do with all this mayhem as he is the only one who really gains from it, distracting the world's attention while he finishes off the opposition.
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Boring


The UN should direct the Israeli soldiers and Hamas soldiers to have a fist together instead of playing hide and seek.

Now that would be fun.
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false flag to ensure ground invasion

mission complete
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:bullshit:
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that's a real nice picture of your mum
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all feeds down.
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morning everyone.

when did this tel aviv bombing occur?? was it a bombing or a rocket?
 Quoting: ThesonofhendriX


A couple of hours ago.

Apparently a woman -- disguised to look pregnant -- got on a bus, rode a short distance and left an explosive devise behind when she got off the bus.

No report of her having been apprehended so far.

Hamas has commended the operation, but does not claim it.

The bombing is largely believed to have been a West Bank operation, perhaps by the al-Aqsah Martyrs Brigade.
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Haaretz.com @haaretzcom

#Iran urges #Arabs to give #Palestinians military aid htz.li/QuowrR #PillarofDefense
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false flag to ensure ground invasion

mission complete
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23745821


:bullshit
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that's a real nice picture of your mum
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23745821


How long have you been trolling this thread ? 4 days now ?
goaway
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Haaretz.com @haaretzcom

#Iran urges #Arabs to give #Palestinians military aid htz.li/QuowrR #PillarofDefense
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Its coming, Jews. hf
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false flag to ensure ground invasion

mission complete
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23745821


:bullshit
 Quoting: subzero86


that's a real nice picture of your mum
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23745821


How long have you been trolling this thread ? 4 days now ?
goaway
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shuddup
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morning everyone.

when did this tel aviv bombing occur?? was it a bombing or a rocket?
 Quoting: ThesonofhendriX


A couple of hours ago.

Apparently a woman -- disguised to look pregnant -- got on a bus, rode a short distance and left an explosive devise behind when she got off the bus.

No report of her having been apprehended so far.

Hamas has commended the operation, but does not claim it.

The bombing is largely believed to have been a West Bank operation, perhaps by the al-Aqsah Martyrs Brigade.
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LOL Tanya from red alert 1....
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Egypt is going to launch a massive surprise attack soon, mark my words.They tried before, got whipped, but they'll try again. WW3 is not far away. Are you prepped?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16489306



Agreed; but, I think they will need another "incident" to launch something. Don't know what kinda "incident" though...maybe IDF troop movement into Gaza is enough.
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It can turn bad in a matter of minutes, but then again on the other hand, it might as well take a couple of more days before we see drastic changes transforming the situation in the Middle East into a Worldwide war...
 Quoting: jahbulon49



Are you really a Nether? Very nicely written!!!
 Quoting: MisterHouston


Yes Mister Houston, I am indeed really a Dutch citizen from the Netherlands. I was born here in the 70's grew up here for a couple of years, left the country to go live in Germany, after that I moved to Canada and from there on I moved to the United States for a couple of years and from there I left the united States to go back to Europe / Middle East where I traveled a bit here and there, so I know Gaza, I know Israel, and i am aware of the size this ticking time-bomb is that we will probably see explode on a live stream one of these days. Maybe even today.

After living in the Middle East for a while it was time for me to serve in the Dutch Navy, this was such a fun thing to do, that I decided to stay there after my duty was over and I signed up for some extra time. After 4,5 years serving in the Navy, I made a move into the Dutch Army. While being in the Navy and in the Army, I served in Iraq and Afghanistan, so I have been on that side of the story as well, and I can assure you that it seriously is true that there are two or more sides to every story.

Over the years I have learned so much, that I need to take in mind whenever I need to make a decision or whenever I need to take action. And I knew that this big war in the Middle East was about to start anytime soon now. I am prepared for this, trust me. And I just simply somehow knew all along that it would start with Israel and the Palestinians and it will unfold into such a very frightening situation all over Western Europe because of the mass numbers of Muslim immigrants that the lazy socialistic Europeans have imported to Western Europe because they were afraid to get their hands dirty from doing any kind of dirty jobs.

Yeah it truly is a sad idea that they screwed it up big time , these lazy socialists. And they did it all with a reason, and this reason is about to unveil itself very very soon.

One LOVE!
 Quoting: jahbulon49



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:-) Cheers!
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Haaretz.com @haaretzcom

#Iran urges #Arabs to give #Palestinians military aid htz.li/QuowrR #PillarofDefense
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Its coming, Jews. hf
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oh boy. not good
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It's a possibility yes. To steel public and cross government support for a ground offensive.
 Quoting: C3r371c


Israelis were dead set against it.

Now they will want it for sure
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23745821


Funny how that works huh?

kinda like it was planned out

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19897785


So, since it would have been stupid for the anti-Israel forces to do this, you assume it was a false flag?

The rockets into Israel were stupid too, and they weren't false flags were they?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28008747

false flag, yup
nope, they were rockets from gaza
sloppy hit nuthin rockets from gaza
(mabey some were
massod but really don`t think so) could be wrong there

but this,(bus bomb)
this has mossad written all over it



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That's it... ramp up the fear, create the illusion that the enemy is stalking their streets.
 Quoting: C3r371c


Yeah...because those rockets aren't real...

Stop smoking crack...it's clearly affecting your judgment.

hf
 Quoting: Devoted Follower 28055738


No sir. The rockets don't normally have the effect of paralysing the Israeli infrastructure in a city like Tel Aviv.

And this latest news about the school kids being kept inside schools unable to leave is related to the explosion on the bus in Tel Aviv.

Pay attention.
 Quoting: C3r371c


Well...you clearly seem to indicate that there is no real threat from Hamas...

I can't fathom how you managed to come to that conclusion unless you happen to blind and deaf...

hugs
 Quoting: Devoted Follower 28055738


Early signs indicate (i.e. Fatah taking responsibility and it lacking any sign of a Hamas attack) that Hamas had nothing to do with this attack... so, who is blind and deaf?

And if you're talking about the Qassam rockets... they're not exactly WMD's are they... in fact they're little above fireworks and mainly designed to shit people up, not blow them up... usually lacking any explosive warhead.
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this is it, palestinians are RISING up, they are fed up with the occupation, they are treated like animals, you only take so much. israel, please be wise and make peace, wtf is your problem?
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There is no occupied land by Israel...the land is occupied by arabs.

Israel's problem? Shortly put , the MUSLIM INSANITY.
 Quoting: recollector


Then move to Israel. Help your brothers in need. But .But you're afraid, arent you, Jew?
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I would move and join IDF asap...sadly, I am 40 and NOT a jew.

Pls ban this AC who is not even showing his country flag...probably a muslim.
 Quoting: recollector


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Where's that sports announcer that I have asked for?

We really need a sports announcer to narrate this game!
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Where's that sports announcer that I have asked for?

We really need a sports announcer to narrate this game!
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Yeah...because those rockets aren't real...

Stop smoking crack...it's clearly affecting your judgment.

hf
 Quoting: Devoted Follower 28055738


No sir. The rockets don't normally have the effect of paralysing the Israeli infrastructure in a city like Tel Aviv.

And this latest news about the school kids being kept inside schools unable to leave is related to the explosion on the bus in Tel Aviv.

Pay attention.
 Quoting: C3r371c


Well...you clearly seem to indicate that there is no real threat from Hamas...

I can't fathom how you managed to come to that conclusion unless you happen to blind and deaf...

hugs
 Quoting: Devoted Follower 28055738


Early signs indicate (i.e. Fatah taking responsibility and it lacking any sign of a Hamas attack) that Hamas had nothing to do with this attack... so, who is blind and deaf?

And if you're talking about the Qassam rockets... they're not exactly WMD's are they... in fact they're little above fireworks and mainly designed to shit people up, not blow them up... usually lacking any explosive warhead.
 Quoting: C3r371c


Hamas yesterday called on Fatah to join the fight





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