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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10097155 United States 11/21/2012 10:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ? Nope. You came here. Pretty all damn near starved to death. Were fed by my ancestors and kept alive out of the kindness of there hearts. Then you stabbed them in the back, like the true treacherous fiends of hell that you are, By murdering most of them the following spring. Fucking demons. |
Conspiracy Theorist User ID: 8962305 United States 11/21/2012 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ? The real story of the first Thanksgiving. Every year around this time, most schoolchildren hear the same ol’ Thanksgiving story in their classrooms across the nation. That so-called official story is a heartwarming tale of how the Pilgrims and Native Americans shared a bountiful feast together. But it does not tell the full truth about what really happened on the Plymouth Plantation. We’re told that the Pilgrims struggled for their survival when they landed in present-day Massachusetts in the 1620’s. Half of the Pilgrims starved to death or went back to England during the first year alone because of harsh winter weather and their lack of proper farming skills. Their chronic food shortages were ultimately resolved when the Native Americans taught the Pilgrims how to plant corn the following spring and together they celebrated their blessings with a huge feast. That "official" story is nothing like what actually happened. For evidence of the failures of communism, we do not need to look to disastrous experiments in foreign lands. The Plymouth Plantation, one of the first English colonial ventures in North America, is actually one of the most evident examples of the failures of collectivism. Centuries before the Communist Manifesto was even published, the Pilgrims set up an economic system that looked similar to the “utopia” advocated by Karl Marx. In the early years of the Plymouth Plantation, there was no such thing as private property. All property was held in common and it was forbidden for anyone to produce their own food. It was up to the plantation officials to distribute food and supplies to the Pilgrims based on equality and need. The Plantation leaders showed their immense lack of knowledge regarding basic economic principles. Plymouth County Governor William Bradford wrote that, “the taking away of property, and bringing in community into a common wealth, would make them happy and flourishing.” That clearly was not the case since the Pilgrims experienced great despair and massive food shortages for several years. The Plymouth Plantation lacked the appropriate incentive structure. As economics Professor Benjamin Powell writes, “bad weather or lack of farming knowledge did not cause the pilgrims’ shortages. Bad economic incentives did.” Many Pilgrims faked illness or stole instead of working in the fields to produce food. William Bradford later wrote that the colony was filled with "corruption," and with "confusion and discontent." He stated that the crops were so small because “much was stolen both by night and day, before it became scarce eatable." William Bradford finally decided to change course by implementing a new economic system in 1623. He assigned “every family a parcel of land” to do with it as they saw fit and the results were nothing short of miraculous. For the first time in the New World, families could enjoy the fruits of their labor. While it was not a complete private property system, the move away from collectivism saved the Pilgrims. As Governor William Bradford wrote that year, "instead of famine now God gave them plenty.” Never again did the Pilgrims face widespread starvation and food shortages. Governor William Bradford wrote that this more capitalist system "had very good success for it made all hands very industrious, so as much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been. By this time harvest was come…the face of things was changed, to the rejoicing of the hearts of many." The colonists actually produced so much food in 1623 that they starting exporting corn. The Pilgrims were able to celebrate all of their blessings with plentiful feasts. The real story of Thanksgiving shows why freedom works and collectivism doesn’t. Let us not forget the lessons of colonial America: collectivism will always fail to produce a happy and prosperous society. . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28115964 United States 11/21/2012 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ? I think both of you should be more well versed in actual history There was more native on native killing for 200 years before 1776 Than the settlers could have ever matched period Learn history before mouthing revisionist bullshit |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28167778 United States 11/21/2012 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ? they stole it from the earlier owners and so on and so on. Just because they were here at that moment in time does not mean they had any legal or moral right to own the land. In prehistoric America, resources "belonged" to whomever had the force to take it. End of story. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10097155 United States 11/21/2012 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ? I think both of you should be more well versed in actual history Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28115964 There was more native on native killing for 200 years before 1776 Than the settlers could have ever matched period Learn history before mouthing revisionist bullshit You are so dumb. Where's the data? Hmmm... that's so bullsit disinfo. |
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Conspiracy Theorist User ID: 8962305 United States 11/21/2012 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ? It wasn't the Indians land. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28167778 they stole it from the earlier owners and so on and so on. Just because they were here at that moment in time does not mean they had any legal or moral right to own the land. In prehistoric America, resources "belonged" to whomever had the force to take it. End of story. Actually, most tribes believed you only owned something like land, or a canoe, or a knife, if you were actually using it. Once you stopped using something, it was considered community property. That is why the European idea of actual property ownership was so very confusing to the native Americans. They could not grasp the concept of putting up fences to mark where you property ends and begins. They just couldn't understand the concept of ownership as the Europeans saw it. As you can imagine, this caused a lot of conflicts. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1291850 United States 11/21/2012 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ? Nope. You came here. Pretty all damn near starved to death. Were fed by my ancestors and kept alive out of the kindness of there hearts. Then you stabbed them in the back, like the true treacherous fiends of hell that you are, By murdering most of them the following spring. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10097155 Fucking demons. Sorry Bro! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27219251 United States 11/21/2012 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ? Nope. You came here. Pretty all damn near starved to death. Were fed by my ancestors and kept alive out of the kindness of there hearts. Then you stabbed them in the back, like the true treacherous fiends of hell that you are, By murdering most of them the following spring. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10097155 Fucking demons. Oh please, Hiawatha. You know nothing of the truth. Go research the REAL story. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1015009 United States 11/21/2012 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ? so some people fought and conquered some other people. yep this is the first time in history this was ever done and it only happened in america, ever. this was never done any other time in human history. amazing. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17142818 United States 11/21/2012 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ? I think both of you should be more well versed in actual history Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28115964 There was more native on native killing for 200 years before 1776 Than the settlers could have ever matched period Learn history before mouthing revisionist bullshit YOU are the revisionist dude, small pox killed way more than the Natives did. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28213577 Poland 11/21/2012 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ? Nope. You came here. Pretty all damn near starved to death. Were fed by my ancestors and kept alive out of the kindness of there hearts. Then you stabbed them in the back, like the true treacherous fiends of hell that you are, By murdering most of them the following spring. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10097155 Fucking demons. No the real truth is we cam here we saw what savages the redskins were. They stole land from the Sasquatch, they would eat babies from each others tribes, and we found a cave where the indians trapped several red head giants and killed them. To make amends the indians should turn over there casinos to the remaining sasquatch. Unfortunately the Indians were told to do all this by their invisible spirit pets. |
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samanthasunflower User ID: 14930415 United States 11/21/2012 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ? The real story of the first Thanksgiving. Quoting: Conspiracy Theorist Every year around this time, most schoolchildren hear the same ol’ Thanksgiving story in their classrooms across the nation. That so-called official story is a heartwarming tale of how the Pilgrims and Native Americans shared a bountiful feast together. But it does not tell the full truth about what really happened on the Plymouth Plantation. We’re told that the Pilgrims struggled for their survival when they landed in present-day Massachusetts in the 1620’s. Half of the Pilgrims starved to death or went back to England during the first year alone because of harsh winter weather and their lack of proper farming skills. Their chronic food shortages were ultimately resolved when the Native Americans taught the Pilgrims how to plant corn the following spring and together they celebrated their blessings with a huge feast. That "official" story is nothing like what actually happened. For evidence of the failures of communism, we do not need to look to disastrous experiments in foreign lands. The Plymouth Plantation, one of the first English colonial ventures in North America, is actually one of the most evident examples of the failures of collectivism. Centuries before the Communist Manifesto was even published, the Pilgrims set up an economic system that looked similar to the “utopia” advocated by Karl Marx. In the early years of the Plymouth Plantation, there was no such thing as private property. All property was held in common and it was forbidden for anyone to produce their own food. It was up to the plantation officials to distribute food and supplies to the Pilgrims based on equality and need. The Plantation leaders showed their immense lack of knowledge regarding basic economic principles. Plymouth County Governor William Bradford wrote that, “the taking away of property, and bringing in community into a common wealth, would make them happy and flourishing.” That clearly was not the case since the Pilgrims experienced great despair and massive food shortages for several years. The Plymouth Plantation lacked the appropriate incentive structure. As economics Professor Benjamin Powell writes, “bad weather or lack of farming knowledge did not cause the pilgrims’ shortages. Bad economic incentives did.” Many Pilgrims faked illness or stole instead of working in the fields to produce food. William Bradford later wrote that the colony was filled with "corruption," and with "confusion and discontent." He stated that the crops were so small because “much was stolen both by night and day, before it became scarce eatable." William Bradford finally decided to change course by implementing a new economic system in 1623. He assigned “every family a parcel of land” to do with it as they saw fit and the results were nothing short of miraculous. For the first time in the New World, families could enjoy the fruits of their labor. While it was not a complete private property system, the move away from collectivism saved the Pilgrims. As Governor William Bradford wrote that year, "instead of famine now God gave them plenty.” Never again did the Pilgrims face widespread starvation and food shortages. Governor William Bradford wrote that this more capitalist system "had very good success for it made all hands very industrious, so as much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been. By this time harvest was come…the face of things was changed, to the rejoicing of the hearts of many." The colonists actually produced so much food in 1623 that they starting exporting corn. The Pilgrims were able to celebrate all of their blessings with plentiful feasts. The real story of Thanksgiving shows why freedom works and collectivism doesn’t. Let us not forget the lessons of colonial America: collectivism will always fail to produce a happy and prosperous society. . |
UndercoverAlien User ID: 28014725 Brazil 11/21/2012 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ? It wasn't the Indians land. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28167778 they stole it from the earlier owners and so on and so on. Just because they were here at that moment in time does not mean they had any legal or moral right to own the land. In prehistoric America, resources "belonged" to whomever had the force to take it. End of story. Descendants of white Europeans always come up with these explanations "we didn't steal the land of the natives, they stole from somebody else first", "we didn't enslave Africans, they sold their own kind to us", "we didn't do this, we didn't do that"... "Do or do not. There is no try." (Yoda) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18585540 United States 11/21/2012 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ? The real story of the first Thanksgiving. Quoting: Conspiracy Theorist Every year around this time, most schoolchildren hear the same ol’ Thanksgiving story in their classrooms across the nation. That so-called official story is a heartwarming tale of how the Pilgrims and Native Americans shared a bountiful feast together. But it does not tell the full truth about what really happened on the Plymouth Plantation. We’re told that the Pilgrims struggled for their survival when they landed in present-day Massachusetts in the 1620’s. Half of the Pilgrims starved to death or went back to England during the first year alone because of harsh winter weather and their lack of proper farming skills. Their chronic food shortages were ultimately resolved when the Native Americans taught the Pilgrims how to plant corn the following spring and together they celebrated their blessings with a huge feast. That "official" story is nothing like what actually happened. For evidence of the failures of communism, we do not need to look to disastrous experiments in foreign lands. The Plymouth Plantation, one of the first English colonial ventures in North America, is actually one of the most evident examples of the failures of collectivism. Centuries before the Communist Manifesto was even published, the Pilgrims set up an economic system that looked similar to the “utopia” advocated by Karl Marx. In the early years of the Plymouth Plantation, there was no such thing as private property. All property was held in common and it was forbidden for anyone to produce their own food. It was up to the plantation officials to distribute food and supplies to the Pilgrims based on equality and need. The Plantation leaders showed their immense lack of knowledge regarding basic economic principles. Plymouth County Governor William Bradford wrote that, “the taking away of property, and bringing in community into a common wealth, would make them happy and flourishing.” That clearly was not the case since the Pilgrims experienced great despair and massive food shortages for several years. The Plymouth Plantation lacked the appropriate incentive structure. As economics Professor Benjamin Powell writes, “bad weather or lack of farming knowledge did not cause the pilgrims’ shortages. Bad economic incentives did.” Many Pilgrims faked illness or stole instead of working in the fields to produce food. William Bradford later wrote that the colony was filled with "corruption," and with "confusion and discontent." He stated that the crops were so small because “much was stolen both by night and day, before it became scarce eatable." William Bradford finally decided to change course by implementing a new economic system in 1623. He assigned “every family a parcel of land” to do with it as they saw fit and the results were nothing short of miraculous. For the first time in the New World, families could enjoy the fruits of their labor. While it was not a complete private property system, the move away from collectivism saved the Pilgrims. As Governor William Bradford wrote that year, "instead of famine now God gave them plenty.” Never again did the Pilgrims face widespread starvation and food shortages. Governor William Bradford wrote that this more capitalist system "had very good success for it made all hands very industrious, so as much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been. By this time harvest was come…the face of things was changed, to the rejoicing of the hearts of many." The colonists actually produced so much food in 1623 that they starting exporting corn. The Pilgrims were able to celebrate all of their blessings with plentiful feasts. The real story of Thanksgiving shows why freedom works and collectivism doesn’t. Let us not forget the lessons of colonial America: collectivism will always fail to produce a happy and prosperous society. . cite your references otherwise I just throw up the |
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DoubleHelix User ID: 10449558 United States 11/21/2012 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ? Yup Sort of like what Isreal is doing.. "I posit that the human being has the capability to utilize the ''real eyes'' to ''realize'' and see through the ''real lies'' ...The ''real eyes'' can only become operational when the heart and higher mind are in synchronized, which requires dual brain hemisphere synchronization."~Danial My [email protected] 1111x1111=1234321<[NUMERICAL PYRAMID;] “Injustice never rules forever.” - Seneca |
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BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 11/21/2012 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ? Get over it, we're past cowboys and Indians, now it's cowboys and Muslims... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
DoubleHelix User ID: 10449558 United States 11/21/2012 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ? It wasn't the Indians land. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28167778 they stole it from the earlier owners and so on and so on. Just because they were here at that moment in time does not mean they had any legal or moral right to own the land. In prehistoric America, resources "belonged" to whomever had the force to take it. End of story. Actually, most tribes believed you only owned something like land, or a canoe, or a knife, if you were actually using it. Once you stopped using something, it was considered community property. That is why the European idea of actual property ownership was so very confusing to the native Americans. They could not grasp the concept of putting up fences to mark where you property ends and begins. They just couldn't understand the concept of ownership as the Europeans saw it. As you can imagine, this caused a lot of conflicts. The real story of the first Thanksgiving. Quoting: Conspiracy Theorist Every year around this time, most schoolchildren hear the same ol’ Thanksgiving story in their classrooms across the nation. That so-called official story is a heartwarming tale of how the Pilgrims and Native Americans shared a bountiful feast together. But it does not tell the full truth about what really happened on the Plymouth Plantation. We’re told that the Pilgrims struggled for their survival when they landed in present-day Massachusetts in the 1620’s. Half of the Pilgrims starved to death or went back to England during the first year alone because of harsh winter weather and their lack of proper farming skills. Their chronic food shortages were ultimately resolved when the Native Americans taught the Pilgrims how to plant corn the following spring and together they celebrated their blessings with a huge feast. That "official" story is nothing like what actually happened. For evidence of the failures of communism, we do not need to look to disastrous experiments in foreign lands. The Plymouth Plantation, one of the first English colonial ventures in North America, is actually one of the most evident examples of the failures of collectivism. Centuries before the Communist Manifesto was even published, the Pilgrims set up an economic system that looked similar to the “utopia” advocated by Karl Marx. In the early years of the Plymouth Plantation, there was no such thing as private property. All property was held in common and it was forbidden for anyone to produce their own food. It was up to the plantation officials to distribute food and supplies to the Pilgrims based on equality and need. The Plantation leaders showed their immense lack of knowledge regarding basic economic principles. Plymouth County Governor William Bradford wrote that, “the taking away of property, and bringing in community into a common wealth, would make them happy and flourishing.” That clearly was not the case since the Pilgrims experienced great despair and massive food shortages for several years. The Plymouth Plantation lacked the appropriate incentive structure. As economics Professor Benjamin Powell writes, “bad weather or lack of farming knowledge did not cause the pilgrims’ shortages. Bad economic incentives did.” Many Pilgrims faked illness or stole instead of working in the fields to produce food. William Bradford later wrote that the colony was filled with "corruption," and with "confusion and discontent." He stated that the crops were so small because “much was stolen both by night and day, before it became scarce eatable." William Bradford finally decided to change course by implementing a new economic system in 1623. He assigned “every family a parcel of land” to do with it as they saw fit and the results were nothing short of miraculous. For the first time in the New World, families could enjoy the fruits of their labor. While it was not a complete private property system, the move away from collectivism saved the Pilgrims. As Governor William Bradford wrote that year, "instead of famine now God gave them plenty.” Never again did the Pilgrims face widespread starvation and food shortages. Governor William Bradford wrote that this more capitalist system "had very good success for it made all hands very industrious, so as much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been. By this time harvest was come…the face of things was changed, to the rejoicing of the hearts of many." The colonists actually produced so much food in 1623 that they starting exporting corn. The Pilgrims were able to celebrate all of their blessings with plentiful feasts. The real story of Thanksgiving shows why freedom works and collectivism doesn’t. Let us not forget the lessons of colonial America: collectivism will always fail to produce a happy and prosperous society. . "I posit that the human being has the capability to utilize the ''real eyes'' to ''realize'' and see through the ''real lies'' ...The ''real eyes'' can only become operational when the heart and higher mind are in synchronized, which requires dual brain hemisphere synchronization."~Danial My [email protected] 1111x1111=1234321<[NUMERICAL PYRAMID;] “Injustice never rules forever.” - Seneca |
DoubleHelix User ID: 10449558 United States 11/21/2012 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ? Exactly my point! I will have no part in it any more. Same old BS. Just bigger weapons. "I posit that the human being has the capability to utilize the ''real eyes'' to ''realize'' and see through the ''real lies'' ...The ''real eyes'' can only become operational when the heart and higher mind are in synchronized, which requires dual brain hemisphere synchronization."~Danial My [email protected] 1111x1111=1234321<[NUMERICAL PYRAMID;] “Injustice never rules forever.” - Seneca |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28216119 United States 11/21/2012 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ? Not unless you are reading Leftist, revised History, again! Most original settlers found the Natives to be Friendly, they even helped the new arrivals. They lived together, but as the nature of man is, conflicts arose. European factions spurred this conflict to try to exploit it for political gain. Eventually the weaker Native tribes were dominated by the Stronger European's. Historical Revisionists forget that the Indians had been doing this to each other for Centuries, before the White man ever set foot in America. That is perfectly OK though, as it does not appeal to the White Guilt Syndrome, that they are affected with. So unless you are infected with, White Guilt Syndrome yourself, do some research and get the real facts. |
071676 User ID: 26630358 United States 11/21/2012 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So let me get this again..Thanksgiving is when we came over here, shared some food then slaughtered the natives and stold their land ? Nope. You came here. Pretty all damn near starved to death. Were fed by my ancestors and kept alive out of the kindness of there hearts. Then you stabbed them in the back, like the true treacherous fiends of hell that you are, By murdering most of them the following spring. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10097155 Fucking demons. That you, cousin? |