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Evidence that crop circles are man made.

 
YeaIdol
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02/01/2006 03:48 PM
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Re: Evidence that crop circles are man made.
Yea Idol,

Sanity? to the board? good luck.

But still nice to hear the truth.

vs the metal health crashers.

ALL croppy circles, man/woman made.

jerk your chain they do.

jerky jerky jerk.
Anonymous Coward
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02/01/2006 07:11 PM
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Re: Evidence that crop circles are man made.
I give you only this for now:

(1) Definitely interdimensional.


(2) From Humans, but from a different time.


(3) The symbology is 12-based math.

The messages are to help with peace on Earth.


(4) Yes, many are hoaxes.
Anonymous Coward
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02/01/2006 07:17 PM
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Re: Evidence that crop circles are man made.
It is obvious that some theorists here have never walked within a glyph or sat in one and just felt.

If you do you would really 'know' and not just pull an 'intellectual' wank or sh1t stir.
Anonymous Coward
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02/01/2006 07:53 PM
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Re: Evidence that crop circles are man made.
17100, you put forth some interesting concepts.
Could you expand on them?
thanks
open minded nli
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02/01/2006 08:05 PM
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yawn
Jenn++

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02/01/2006 08:10 PM
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Re: Evidence that crop circles are man made.
I wish people would google this:

scientific method


and apply the scientific method something like:

1) Observation

Crop circles are very complicated patterns formed in wheat fields.

2) Hypothesis

Crop circles can be created by humans.

3) Testing

Duplicate a complex crop circle under observable and measurable conditions in several locations.

4) Peer review

Have several teams of people create the same crop circle and observe and measure their results. Review all the results of the teams.

5) Conclusions to hypothesis

Crop circles can be repeatedly created by humans.
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open minded nli
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02/01/2006 08:13 PM
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Re: Evidence that crop circles are man made.
For Jenn:


tp
Monty

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02/01/2006 08:14 PM
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When a fact doesn't fit Idol's view, then she simply denies its existence. When scientific research SHOWS that nodes in plants are popped due to intense heat, Idol simply says 'there was NO heat'. No Idol. You have to do better. Unless you can DISPROVE the University tests that PROVED heat causes the popping of the plant nodes then you have failed
Monty

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02/01/2006 08:15 PM
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Jenn...the fact thhat humans can create something that looks like a crop circle is not proof that humans make ALL crop circles. THAT is BAD science.
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02/01/2006 08:29 PM
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2477 said, "Jenn...the fact thhat humans can create something that looks like a crop circle is not proof that humans make ALL crop circles. THAT is BAD science."

The science is just that humans are capable of creating crop circles. Apply the science to what you think is creating the circles.
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lostprobe
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02/01/2006 08:32 PM
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whoever, whatever...they sure is pretty
idol_harobed  (OP)

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02/01/2006 09:12 PM
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Re: Evidence that crop circles are man made.
"Those intricate crop circles that are made are NOT man made. No way in all Gods creation can some guys with a long tape measure and some boards make those intricate designs...no way no way no way."

I have watched an NGC documentary showing that it is possible. Two men (from Circlemakers.org) with the mentioned equipment made a design of medium complexity in a little more than four hours.
I am what I read.
Anonymous Coward
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02/01/2006 09:15 PM
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Re: Evidence that crop circles are man made.
idol, you're just ignoring all the other points that were brought and that might indicate that not all of them are man-made
Anonymous Coward
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02/01/2006 09:19 PM
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Re: Evidence that crop circles are man made.
"The science".

No. Under peer review, does not hold water (nor 'bend' stalks).
idol_harobed  (OP)

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02/01/2006 09:21 PM
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Re: Evidence that crop circles are man made.
"When scientific research SHOWS that nodes in plants are popped due to intense heat, Idol simply says 'there was NO heat'. No Idol."

That was a mistake. The traumatized tissues dehydrated (after the rupture of the capilary vessels) and tore (after fast growth of new subjacent tissue) as if they were exposed to intense heat.
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Anonymous Coward
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02/01/2006 09:26 PM
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Re: Evidence that crop circles are man made.
this discussion is completely useless
Anonymous Coward
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02/01/2006 09:27 PM
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Re: Evidence that crop circles are man made.
It is possible that zebrae are hand painted. It is also possible that LOVE is directly associated with scent.

Are we discussing alternative possibilities?
Anonymous Coward
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02/01/2006 09:29 PM
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Re: Evidence that crop circles are man made.
"The traumatized tissues dehydrated (after the rupture of the capilary vessels) and tore (after fast growth of new subjacent tissue) as if they were exposed to intense heat."

Theoretical, no?
Anonymous Coward
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02/01/2006 09:34 PM
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Re: Evidence that crop circles are man made.
Do you think scientists can't make a dicstinction between dehydrated tissues and tissues exposed to intense heat?
idol_harobed  (OP)

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02/01/2006 09:47 PM
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Re: Evidence that crop circles are man made.
"Do you think scientists can't make a dicstinction between dehydrated tissues and tissues exposed to intense heat?"

It would be undeniable if the tissues were carbonized.
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User # 78/68

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02/01/2006 11:49 PM
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Re: Evidence that crop circles are man made.
Idol is making a complete fool of himself this time. How can someone be a PXer one day and the next day think every single crop circle layed down be from human circle makers? This alone doesn't make any sense. Idol stinks of deceit... really stinks!
And then he's a man one day and the next a pretty woman. Get the picture here?
A better question is who is paying Idol to be such a putz? Because it is pretty obvious now that someone is paying him to look like a fool. And he certainly is cashing in now.

Idol said this...

" The unexplained circles are matted down and interwoven in a very precise pattern."

"I have never seen one."


If you have never seen one then you have not even done the simplest of research on this phenomenon. Do your homework Idol and go back three grades... you have failed miserably at this lesson.
stgeorge
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02/02/2006 01:15 AM
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Does anyone realize that if anyone claims to be a crop hoaxer,they broke the law by tresspassing and damaging sombody's crops?
Who is stepping forward to say they did it?
Anonymous Coward
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02/02/2006 02:02 AM
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Re: Evidence that crop circles are man made.
I wish idol would harp on about the state of his own country and its peoples well being instead of everything else which he claims to be an expert about...
Anonymous Coward
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02/02/2006 02:04 AM
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Re: Evidence that crop circles are man made.
>>Idol is making a complete fool of himself this time.<<



No Kidding.

To suggest these creations were ALL made with planks and ropes is hubris extraordinaire.

Mind you, this is the same logistician that suggested everyone should 'pray' for Ariel Sharon.

Sharp like a stump.


yawn
Anonymous coward
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02/02/2006 04:40 AM
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Re: Evidence that crop circles are man made.
Yes many of them are man made.

However as most of the best crop circles appear in Wiltshire,Mill hill and surrounding areas in the UK people thousands of miles away cannot make judgements to what is real and what is not.

As a UK citizen people have actually been in fields when crop circles appeared.Orbs of bright lights were seen then the crop circle appeared,in broad daylight,not night.

Farmers have reported fields being ok and a crop circle 15 minutes later,could a crop circle be manmade in 15 minutes.?
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02/02/2006 04:50 AM
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Re: Evidence that crop circles are man made.
I once met a croppy in a pub in Wells near Glastonbury. He said that they used to do some of the "Julia Set". However, one day he and his croppy mates went to a field to do their stuff late at night only to find that there was a "set" already completed. They were surprised as there was no one in the field and that type of set would have taken a while. Not convinced Idol that they are "all" man made.
Who knows what the truth is???
WeTFoot

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02/02/2006 04:53 AM
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Re: Evidence that crop circles are man made.
Idol is looking at events with a scientific perspective.

All can be explained.

But... Some of our greatest scientifics were prooven wrong, even if they had their logical explanation already made. Think of Darwin, and mister Hopkins more recently.

So only time will tell,
we learn from previous experiences, and i have learned that even though scientific people bring truth to the debunking mechanism, they dont have all the answers.

And i beleive they now it too.
Anonymous Coward
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02/02/2006 05:01 AM
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Re: Evidence that crop circles are man made.
All ye nay sayers, do you home work. Doug and Dave was last century's debunk.

we have moved into a very scientific mode now. do you homework.

Your ignorance is showing.
Common Sense
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02/02/2006 08:32 AM
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I wonder whether Idol would be truthful and report on a genuine paranormal phenomenon,having witnessed it herself.Does Idol at least allow for the feasability of otherworldly phenomena,or does she deny all matters other than our physical reality? I've asked her similar questions before,never ever receive a reply.How courageous.
idol_harobed  (OP)

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02/02/2006 08:45 AM
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Re: Evidence that crop circles are man made.
"Some of our greatest scientifics were prooven wrong, even if they had their logical explanation already made."

However, we can not use this a presupposition to already assume a weird explanation to every phenomena that can perfectly have mundane explanations.
I am what I read.





GLP