Government Tells NJ Hurricane Victims to Demolish Their Homes Immediately or pay $2,000 Per Week

These are houses worth 200k and up, built right next to the fucking ocean "Seaside Heights". Why should I give a fuck?

^This^ I predicted this right after Sandy hit and I heard how bad the damage was.

It is the same thing that happened after the India Tsunami because their government displaced millions of people that had small fishing villages near the coastline and they only knew how to fish to support their families.
After months of hollow promises to let them move back or have a new house inland the eventual result was complete displacement and no one was paid anything to relocate inland then, India allowed the same areas to be bought by billion dollar tourists hotels.

Anyone in NJ just need to get out now and relocate because they will not win a fight when the area can be deemed unsafe for residential living and resold for billions to hotels.

You should give a fuck because these are fellow human beings.

Anything can happen to anyone at anytime. Disaster can strike anywhere, none of us are immune. Doesn't matter where you live, what you do for a living, who you are. Have compassion, because that is what the world needs...

All of you people who want to live alone and "survive" at the End Times are going to have a hell of a time doing it by yourself. Those who ban together are going to make out far better. We need to look after each other and give a shit about one another.

How far in life are you going to get with THAT attitude?????

On a HUMAN level people DO care.....but there is also the.....you wanted to build/live there factor....you take your OWN chances with it perspective.



Problem is...OTHER TAXPAYERS resent having to SUBSIDIZE / having to pay for the damages caused by nature and ones desire to live RIGHT ON THE WATER.
Insurance won't cover many of these houses for FLOODS for obvious reasons...therefore the government is essentially the "insurer" of last resort.
Therefore...taxpayers end up with the bill. All of us pay for it.

It's not right.

Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 11/28/2012 06:27 PM

The homes built on the ocean blocks in Seaside are around a million. $200,000 homes are rare unless they are really small bungalows. Why would you deny people to have these homes...they didn't steal the money....they worked hard for it. I give them credit. I didn't make that kind of money, so I blame myself. I would like to live like that.

Go north from Seaside to Ortley, Lavallette, Mantoloking, and Bay Head...and homes on the ocean are million+ dollars. My daughter's house is not on the ocean, and she paid $600,000 just for the lot...4 years ago. She built a 5,000 square foot house on that lot.

She knows someone who had a huge house on the ocean that was destroyed. The house even had an elevator in it....made my daughter's house look small. Everytime we passed it, I would envy the people living there. It was so beautiful! The house was destroyed in the storm, and they only had flood insurance, which doesn't count when the destruction is caused by wind. They are out of luck.

Last Edited by nutmeg on 11/28/2012 07:41 PM

Thank god some people still have EMPATHY something i've seen America slowly losing completely


i wish i was born 100 years ago sometimes

Oh, my. Now it's my turn to be an ass...I have a modest 1000 sq ft house for me and three kids. Before my soon to be ex went nuts and left, it was for seven of us...on a teeny tiny postage stamp lawn. Wow. Their dumb asses shoulda had coverage for everything with that kind of money. Doesn't make any sense. Now, that, is stupidity. Plain and simple.

how can anyone afford to pay 2,000 a week? they are forcing them to sell their properties at low prices. Not everyone has insurance. I don't think they can charge someone for camping out on property they own. By laws aren't constitutional and can be fought in a court of law

ahhh stormy! right after i comment how i loved the previous post.





everyone has a story, and even if you are fully covered Insurance always looks for a way to not pay.


I know a friend who was fully covered on his house, covered mostly everything. Lightning strikes and because his grounding rod was run over by a Plow driver hours earlier, he wasn't covered.

I know...I'm anxious to hear more of the story, but that's what my daughter was told so far. I would think they would have had more insurance. Oh...that house was so beautiful...right on the ocean, and the landscaping was gorgeous! Very little lawn (common in the shore towns), but flowers, shrubs and trees. So many homes in the towns north of Seaside are very beautiful and very expensive.

My daughter's house sits high enough that no water entered the house...only two feet in the garage. They have some repairs to do for wiring, insulation, etc, where the water entered the crawl space.

Last Edited by nutmeg on 11/28/2012 07:57 PM

Aw, I know...LOL, Shame on me!!!!! I do feel bad for everyone who lost everything. Was just having a moment of "if only"... :-)

I know insurance companies suck. The government sucks, as well. Nobody deserves to lose what they've worked so hard for, regardless of where they choose to live.

This is too soon. The insurance guys can't get out there this quick. They can't possibly see and assess all damage in all homes, and cut checks, and YOU CAN'T GET QUALIFIED HELP THERE THIS SOON either, since in a lot of cases, people don't have electricity, so how can a contractor work?

So for the localities to be ready to fine people when there is still so much debris that it's impossible for people to move through the area is insane.

IT will truly take YEARS, literally YEARS for everything to be back to "normal" and then you can look at homes that need to be razed....not weeks.

I know. I live in S. FL. Went through Andrew in '92. Charley in '04. I still live in the "Charley" hit area, and there are STILL HOMES WITH BLUE TARPS ON ROOFS.

I have plenty of dumbass moments myself...hindsight is 20/20...I do empathize. I do have a good heart, most of the time...and I will always help a neighbor in need. ALWAYS. I've been prepping a little myself, and when and if the shit hits the fan, I'm gonna be the one out organizing and providing...I've always had this feeling, that that's my job...maybe i'm narcissistic too, ha ha, but that's been my feeling the last few years.

This will take years to repair...if it ever gets repaired...Look at Katrina. Again, this is where we either need to step in as friends and neighbors and do what we can to help each other....or rely on our government...ugh

The things we could accomplish if we were all on the same page! There used to be a time that we were. I too wish I'd been alive hundreds of years ago, instead of now.

If you can afford to build a house there,then you should have to foot the entire bill to rebuild.

I'm going build a mansion next to a volcano and I want the American taxpayer to pay for it when a volcano eruption fucks it up.

Same goes for Katrina... A wall is holding back the ocean because you have built homes below sea level...

Now the Taxpayer has to foot the bill the next time it gets flooded. Sea levels are on the rise and they plan to rebuild again in Katrina and Seaside Heights. Smart, Real fucking smart.

You should sign a wavier if you plan to build there and it should start off with.

I will not hold anyone responsible for my dumb ass!!

This is a stupid statement. You don't know when or where some act of God will happen. I for one wouldn't feel safe living in Florida or in the middle of a Tornado alley, but when something happens in those parts of our country we DONT TURN OUR BACKS ON THE VICTIMS. We band together and help our brothers. Thats what makes us great. We are there for each other ALWAYS because we hope that when we have hard times they will be there for us. If the whole state of Cali is ravished by a quake we wont mock those on the west coast because they picked a fault line to pitch a tent!


You people who disagree think everything is some sort of Government Handout.


GET REAL PEOPLE!

We are being REAL....are YOU???

This IS a government handout when it comes to the government being INSURERS OF LAST RESORT.
(otherwise known as OUR TAX MONEY)


READ AND LEARN.

Flood Insurance, Already Fragile, Faces New Stress
[link to www.nytimes.com]


We ALL pay for it.




Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 11/28/2012 10:03 PM

to the above poster.



These people affected are tax payers as well. Our government was created FOR THE PEOPLE BY THE PEOPLE!!!

I would rather spend money here in our country than the billions we spend on bombs that go BOOOM!

Next disaster it could be you looking for any small amount of aid or charity.




WE HELP OUR OWN AND ALWAYS SHOULD

Agenda 21 [dec 21]

They must not of heard about this thing called, "Insurance".

Help is one thing in times of need from person to person.
BUT...going forward....if they want to rebuild there? I as a taxpayer don't want to subsidize THEIR BEACH LIFESTYLE.

If THEY want to live on the water FINE.......just don't ask us to cover their asses when the next storm comes because the insurance companies wouldn't cover them.

They take their OWN RISK building there from now on.

Capish??

Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 11/28/2012 10:55 PM

this is the red tape the gov loves.
1. fine for non repairs.
2. permit needed before repairs.
3. engineer needed to asses damage to figure out what to repair.
4. architect needed for design plans for permit.
5. city needs to approve site plans before permit allowed.
6. city requires police/fire/health dept. to sign off plans.
7. city always finds something wrong with plans, need to submit corrections.
8. after corrections approved, permit issued.

total time from start of permit to finish 4-6 months
16k-24k in fines not including the 5k for permit.

It's a hassle but that way you don't end up with mud shacks that crumble like in third world countries...building codes work.