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User ID: 2307 United States 02/02/2006 01:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I put these links up in Jenn++'s thread on chemtrails, but the bandwidth to the site was exceeded. So here I uploaded these to a free hosting site. This deserves its own thread. Closeup photos: [ link to img432.imageshack.us] [ link to img432.imageshack.us] [ link to img432.imageshack.us] [ link to img432.imageshack.us] [ link to img432.imageshack.us] [ link to img432.imageshack.us] [ link to img432.imageshack.us] ---- and now down to some business. This is for idol, Jenn, Duncan, and any other adamant nonbeliever. == Please explain the gaps in the chemtrails in these photos: [ link to img432.imageshack.us] [ link to img432.imageshack.us] [ link to img432.imageshack.us] If you say it was an engine failure, then how could the trail maintain a straight line? The jet would have lost power and descended in altitude for that amount of time. -- Next up, satellite photos. Please explain how the trail ENDED and STARTED over the body of water seen in this picture: [ link to img344.imageshack.us] Explain the spirallinhappy_bunnys: [ link to img344.imageshack.us] --- [ link to img344.imageshack.us] -- Why are chemtrails so bright if they are mere condensation trails?: [ link to img344.imageshack.us] -- And these are just for fun: It's not a natural formation. The photos are not doctored. So explain. [ link to img344.imageshack.us] [ link to img344.imageshack.us] [ link to img344.imageshack.us] [ link to img344.imageshack.us] [ link to img344.imageshack.us] |
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Celador
User ID: 2996 United States 02/02/2006 01:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Chemtrails - Evidence Catalyst, those links are fabulous !! thank you In the gap between your thoughts shines something far brighter than the sun, more profound than all of the universe...and too beautiful to even imagine |
Celador
User ID: 2996 United States 02/02/2006 01:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Chemtrails - Evidence Yoohoo, Duncan In the gap between your thoughts shines something far brighter than the sun, more profound than all of the universe...and too beautiful to even imagine |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65540 United States 02/02/2006 01:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Chemtrails - Evidence weatherwars.com this site is interesting |
Catalyst (OP)
User ID: 2307 United States 02/02/2006 01:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Chemtrails - Evidence Why did it change the word loops to happy_bunnys? Plus the G at the end of spiralling? What the heck? Thanks Celador. |
NUTHOLE
User ID: 68570 United Kingdom 02/02/2006 01:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Chemtrails - Evidence
heres a few more explain this [ link to i1.tinypic.com] how many engines [ link to i1.tinypic.com] gulf war 91 remember the blizzard conditions [ link to i1.tinypic.com] |
Ravinoff
User ID: 44530 United States 02/02/2006 02:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Chemtrails - Evidence HOLY SHIT!!
Those are by far the best photos I've ever seen!
Great job man!!!
My bet, none of those debunkers will post here.
And if they do, and continue to deny it...
then they are without a glimmer of hope. |
Catalyst (OP)
User ID: 2307 United States 02/02/2006 02:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Chemtrails - Evidence Wow NUTHOLE, that third one is weird. Also shows how much brighter the chemtrails are than the surrounding clouds. |
NUTHOLE
User ID: 68570 United Kingdom 02/02/2006 02:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Chemtrails - Evidence yes well you have the contolling layer and the layer being controlled both of which are sprayed
if you had umpteen volts running thru you-you would be lit up too
oh wait you are glowing |
nonono User ID: 63357 United States 02/02/2006 03:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Chemtrails - Evidence check out chemclouds on flikr---igmog59 |
anon User ID: 68809 Canada 02/02/2006 03:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Chemtrails - Evidence More people being aware of it and coming to terms with the fact that it is really happening is a good start I'd say. |
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NUTHOLE
User ID: 68570 United Kingdom 02/02/2006 03:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Chemtrails - Evidence chiptruth just what do you think they are FOR? this thread apparently wasnt for you if you had read what the OP's target audiance was ""This is for idol, Jenn, Duncan, and any other adamant nonbeliever."" A believer debunkin a debunking thread ive seen it all now |
Shadow Dancer
User ID: 43368 United States 02/02/2006 04:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Chemtrails - Evidence Bravo Nice clutch of photos The dbkr should be arriving soon if they are up to it So many veils being lifted-so little time to debunk All choices have consequences, choose wisely, CHOOSE WISELY. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64428 United States 02/02/2006 06:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Chemtrails - Evidence the photos are good...but here's a video that puts it ALL into perspective. If you watch this video,(streamed off google), and STILL try to debunk Chemtrails, you are insane and there is no hope for you because you wont even believer yer own lying eyes. [ link to video.google.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19894 United Kingdom 02/02/2006 06:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Chemtrails - Evidence Great pics, Great thread! w00t! |
C (OP) User ID: 2307 United States 02/02/2006 06:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Chemtrails - Evidence Wow thanks 64428! This is a great video so far, about 12 minutes into it now. Some of the photos I posted here are in the video. Everyone watch it. |
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idol_harobed
User ID: 45744 Brazil 02/02/2006 06:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Chemtrails - Evidence "Please explain the gaps in the chemtrails in these photos:" The gaps occur when the aircraft fly through pockets of dryer air. I am what I read. |
idol_harobed
User ID: 45744 Brazil 02/02/2006 06:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Chemtrails - Evidence "Please explain how the trail ENDED and STARTED over the body of water seen in this picture:" Because large bodies of water influence the atmosphere. Have you ever heard of blizzards caused by the presence of Lake Michigan? I am what I read. |
idol_harobed
User ID: 45744 Brazil 02/02/2006 06:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Chemtrails - Evidence "Explain the spirallinhappy_bunnys:" Exotic flight path typical of military aircraft. I am what I read. |
idol_harobed
User ID: 45744 Brazil 02/02/2006 06:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Chemtrails - Evidence "Why are chemtrails so bright if they are mere condensation trails?:" There is superposition of the white color of the trails and the reflection of sunlight off the ocean surface. I am what I read. |
c (OP) User ID: 2307 United States 02/02/2006 07:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Chemtrails - Evidence
"The gaps occur when the aircraft fly through pockets of dryer air." You can't be serious. There would have been a gradual tapering off, if that was the case, which it is not of course. "Because large bodies of water influence the atmosphere. Have you ever heard of blizzards caused by the presence of Lake Michigan?" |
idol_harobed
User ID: 45744 Brazil 02/02/2006 07:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Chemtrails - Evidence "It's not a natural formation. The photos are not doctored. So explain." Something, like an aircraft or some convective motion of the atmosphere, has caused the supercooled water droplets of an altocumulus cloud to freeze and fall as snow, giving a display of virga. I am what I read. |
c (OP) User ID: 2307 United States 02/02/2006 07:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Chemtrails - Evidence In the video above, most of the footage was shot in New Mexico, an arid environment with low humidity levels.
The video shows a normal contrail right along side a lingering chemtrail. Oh yeah, it was just a pocket of dry air... |
idol_harobed
User ID: 45744 Brazil 02/02/2006 07:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Chemtrails - Evidence "There would have been a gradual tapering off, if that was the case, which it is not of course." Where did you get this idea from? This is not a necessary condition. I am what I read. |
idol_harobed
User ID: 45744 Brazil 02/02/2006 07:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Chemtrails - Evidence "In the video above, most of the footage was shot in New Mexico, an arid environment with low humidity levels." Near the surface it is. But higher altitudes can, and almost always, have different atmospheric parameters. Have you ever heard of atmospheric sounding, when they release a weather balloon equipped with sensors and a radio? Why do they do this? Because the atmosphere is different in the heights. "The video shows a normal contrail right along side a lingering chemtrail. Oh yeah, it was just a pocket of dry air..." This time we have aircraft flying at different flight levels with different environments. I am what I read. |
c (OP) User ID: 2307 United States 02/02/2006 07:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Chemtrails - Evidence
Exotic flight path? OK show me other examples. You're just making stuff up as you go along. Fantastic nonsense. You throw a few textbooks explanations at something you can't even apply it to. |
KY6 User ID: 67846 United Kingdom 02/02/2006 07:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Chemtrails - Evidence All the pics are normal contrail patterns though some are unusual. Some are ariel photos of jets climbing on full thrust. Perspective also comes into it. The gaps are normal too, taken similar photos myself. All down to the atmosphere and varying dewpoints within layers. Your 'just for fun' pics are natural. They're called hole-punch clouds. One of them (the actual original) is featured in APOD 2004 January 12 [ link to antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov] But what do I know - I get the debunking paycheck whether you believe me or not |
C (OP) User ID: 2307 United States 02/02/2006 07:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Chemtrails - Evidence "There is superposition of the white color of the trails and the reflection of sunlight off the ocean surface."
Fantastic nonsense.
So you admit the chemtrails are made up of something vastly different than the clouds. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 2307 United States 02/02/2006 07:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Chemtrails - Evidence KY6 did you read your own link?
"A leading hypothesis holds that the hole-punch cloud is caused by falling ice-crystals."
hypothesis... yeah. |
C (OP) User ID: 2307 United States 02/02/2006 07:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Chemtrails - Evidence "All the pics are normal contrail patterns though some are unusual."
You contradicted yourself in a single sentence.
All normal but some are unusual.. yeah.
I understand that there are different layers in the atmosphere, but that small? No. |
KY6 User ID: 67846 United Kingdom 02/02/2006 07:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Chemtrails - Evidence 2307:
You got a better explanation? Water can only supercool so far then it will suddenly freeze producing the whispy cirrus type clouds in the centre |
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