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Question: Who are the Rosicrucians and what does the name signify?
Answer: The ancient Rosicrucian Brotherhood consisted of high spiritual beings who had advanced far beyond ordinary man in purity and spiritual wisdom. They were learned alchemists, doctors, and mathematicians -- twelve Supermen of the fourteenth century, who were guided by and who worked with a thirteenth known by the name of Christian Rosenkreuz (Christian Rose Cross). These thirteen august men worked secretly. They formed themselves into a Brotherhood known as the Rosicrucian Order or Order of the Rose Cross. The teachings of this Order were given only to a very few wise men; nothing was printed until the year 1614 when a small pamphlet written in the German language was circulated among those only who were ready to receive these teachings.

This secret brotherhood is still in existence, is still working with and for the upliftment of humanity. Only those who are highly evolved spiritually are admitted into this inner branch of the Rosicrucian movement, and these physicians of the soul may be found among those who are at the helm of some great movement or country and are directly concerned with the forward movement of the world and its work. These Brothers never make themselves known and work unselfishly for the good of mankind.

In 1908 Max Heindel, who was of Danish birth, was chosen as a messenger of these Brothers to carry the Rosicrucian Teachings to the western world, and after spending some time under their direct tutelage, was instructed to return to America and give to the world publicly what previously had been held secret. At this particular time in the world's work, mankind had reached the stage where it could be given a more exalted phase of the Christian religion and when the mysteries (which the Christ spoke of in Matthew 13:11, and Luke 8:10) should be given to the many instead of the few.

After Max Heindel reached America he had these exalted teachings printed in the textbook entitled The Rosicrucian Cosmo-Conception, which has been translated into various languages and continues to be shipped into all parts of the world. He also established The Rosicrucian Fellowship as the Preparatory School for the Rosicrucian Order, with International Headquarters at Mt. Ecclesia, Oceanside, California. The Fellowship has no connection with any other organization, even if the latter does use the word "Rosicrucian" as a part of its title.



Question: Do the Rosicrucians teach that the Christ was a divine Messenger -- the Savior of the world?
Answer: Yes, Christ Jesus was the greatest being that has ever functioned in a physical body on our Earth. However, the Rosicrucian Teachings explain that Jesus was a man, and that at the Baptism, he surrendered his lower vehicles to the Christ Spirit to use in His ministry on the material plane. At the Crucifixion the Christ was released from the bodies of Jesus and entered into the Earth. This great Archangel is still the indwelling Spirit of the Earth, is still the Savior of mankind. After a careful study of the teachings as given out by the Rosicrucian Fellowship, the Christ becomes a living factor in the lives of students, who not only recognize the divinity of Christ but who make every effort to follow in His footsteps.



Question: Does the Rosicrucian student believe in a life after death?
Answer: Yes, the Rosicrucian Teachings take the sting of sorrow out of death because they prepare the aspirant for what he is to expect in the life to come. A journey into foreign lands is made pleasant when we are prepared and know of the country into which we are to travel; likewise it is a great comfort to know of conditions existing in that land which has been made so mysterious by the dark shadow of ignorance which has rested over man for so many ages. Knowledge of the life beyond the grave is most comforting to the one who has lost loved ones.

The Elder Brothers of the Rose Cross, with their superior knowledge of the spiritual worlds bring to us the proof of an existence of these higher worlds; also many advanced students have received positive proof of life after death: to them it is no longer a theory but a Truth. It is possible, with the development of a finer sense, to actually experience and see the conditions existing in this invisible land of the so-called dead which is interpenetrating our dense physical world, although unseen by those who have only the sense of physical sight developed. As John McCreery says in his beautiful poem:


"They are not dead. They have but passed
Beyond the mists that blind us here,
Into a new and larger life
Of that serener sphere."

Death to the Rosicrucian student is but a shifting of consciousness, a casting away of a worn-out garment (the physical body) to take on that spiritual body which Paul tells us about in the 15th Chapter of 1st. Corinthians.



Question: Do the Rosicrucians believe in Rebirth and the law of consequence?
Answer: In the 17th chapter of Matthew verses 11, 12, 13, Jesus gave his disciples a very wonderful demonstration of the philosophy of rebirth. After his transfiguration he plainly said that Elias had come already and the disciples understood he had reference to John the Baptist. The 8th chapter of Job and the latter portion of the 19th chapter tells us of rebirth.

The Rosicrucians teach that all the causes set into action in one life cannot ripen in one existence, and that all things must reach a stage of fruition, that "Whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap." This is one of the biblical teachings, that man must reap his own harvests from the seeds he has sown, be they good or evil; therefore each individual passes through a number of earth lives during which he builds character. It is at this stage of his living that he either enjoys the fruits of his past building, or is suffering from the results of his evil deeds.

Each life is as a day in school, where the spirit learns its lessons. We are told in Genesis that God made man in His own image; if man is divinely made he must also become as wise as the Father Who made him. Naturally this cannot be accomplished in one life, but a slow process of evolution is necessary to lift man from that tiny spark of divinity to become as wise and all knowing as his Father in heaven.



Question: Tell us something about the Rosicrucian method of healing the sick.
Answer: In each of the four gospels we find that the Christ preached the gospel of healing. He healed all who came to Him and He sent His disciples out into the world with the two commands: Preach the Gospel and Heal the Sick. These two commands are also given to the Rosicrucians, who are physicians of the soul, for sickness is first manifested in the Vital Body, which is the vehicle of the soul and healing can be best accomplished through this invisible vehicle. During the time of sleep when man is free from his physical body and functioning in the spiritual world, healing is more quickly accomplished. The esoteric students are trained for this particular work.

Full details regarding healing may be secured by writing to The Rosicrucian Fellowship, Oceanside, 92054, U.S.A.



Question: We understand that the Rosicrucians do not set a price upon their lessons nor upon their healing ministrations. Is not the workman "worthy of his hire?"
Answer: In the 10th chapter of Matthew, Christ tells His disciples to go to the lost sheep of Israel and to preach the gospel and heal the sick. But he also tells them to provide neither gold, silver, brass, nor scrip for their journey. In the 10th chapter of 1st Corinthians, Paul also holds out this thought, to preach the gospel without charge. The Rosicrucians have followed this practice from the very beginning and never set a price on their teachings. No true believer of this exalted teaching will charge for lessons or require a monthly membership fee. This at once brands him as an impostor. If we have faith and work unselfishly, God will always take care of His own and the Love offerings will be sufficient to keep the aspirant in his simple needs.



Question: But will this not encourage some to take all and give nothing? Will it not develop selfishness in some? There is a law in nature that we cannot obtain anything for nothing.
Answer: Yes, numbers are attending the churches, lectures and classes, never dropping a penny into the collection baskets, feeling this unnecessary unless they are approached and, naturally, they will take all and give nothing. But they do not reason the matter from the standpoint of God's laws which are silently operating through the laws of Cause and Effect; sometime, somewhere, these debts will come to the Ego who thinks he is slipping through life defrauding, taking all and giving nothing.


"Be not deceived, God is not mocked,
For whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."
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you are occult and hate Jesus

next?
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"you are occult and hate Jesus"


Whoa,what wisdom!!!! Spreading some more of your hate filled guile,67574? Keep on bud,your time is short.
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Rosicrucians teach that Jesus was real.
That's exactly why I quit them.
The human species is inherently insane.
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"Rosicrucians teach that Jesus was real.
That's exactly why I quit them."


OhZone,I am sorry for you because Jesus is very real.One day you will know that to be a fact.It is the way he is represented by "organized" religion that is false.
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I feel sorry for you. You will suffer many years in your delusion before you have a true crisis of faith. I did.
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Why are the Rosi's so set on a one world government?
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If it was and is so secret, how can we know or trust this information?

13 men turned out to be the wisest people? Wow, no woman, at all were deemed wise?
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"13 men turned out to be the wisest people? Wow, no woman, at all were deemed wise?"


Sophia,well.....I suppose that they were just falling in line with the patriarchial system....
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bump for truth
All choices have consequences, choose wisely, CHOOSE WISELY.
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Thank you,shadow... hiHow are you?
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"I suppose that they were just falling in line with the patriarchial system...."

Then I must ask, "had they really advanced beyond ordinay purity and spiritual wisdom?"
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'TruthTeller:'
This thread and your OP are collectively very misleading regarding the 'truth' about the Roscicrucian Order. Perhaps I can explain:

I've been a member of the Rosicrucian Order AMORC for nearly 25 years, and although -as stated in your OP- we rarely proclaim our presence, as with all things there is a time and a place. Such is today.

The original Order is much, much older than your OP info suggests and can be traced to the Essenes of Quumran and before that to the Egyptian high priests of the first Dynasty. The teachings of the Order are NOT meant for EVERYONE... but only for those who actively seek the knowledge and are willing to apply it in a positive manner to guide others.

The Rosicrucian Fellowship you mention is just one of many splinter groups that have come into being since before the time of Martin Luther, and a period of 'religious enlightenment.' Many new initiates into the original order disagreed with the ancient teachings and so, began their own fraternal organizations. 'C. Rosenkreuz' and Max Heindel fall into this category. [Rosenkreuz actually changed his name to make his teachings seem more legitimate to the uniformed]
The North American branch of the Rosicrucian Order AMORC began in roughly the same time frame as your Rosicrucian Fellowship - BUT THEY ARE NOT THE SAME ENTITY. You will find the AMORC international HQ in San Jose- not Oceanside, California. As an organization, AMORC does not judge or publicly comment on the existence or activities of others who use the name, 'Rosicrucian.' The name/word -like the Order itself- is much older
and used almost to a generic quality.
Concerning your OP analysis of the Order's teachings: in general, they are accurate; however, AMORC places less emphasis on scriptural references since these are [and always have been] permutations of the ancient doctrines and rituals. However, the concepts of reincarnation are quite strong in the AMORC teachings.
As a sworn brother of the Order, I may not share significant details of the teachings I have received during the past 25 years; I will instead state that the 'healing techniques' encompass many different protocols including audio resonance and the regeneration of cellular structure.
Sound unbelieveable? That's precisely why these teachings are NOT in the public domain.
Recently -most notably at this forum-
much speculation has been made concerning the release of a TV event called 'The Secret' and how it's contents may be connected to those of the Order. Without access to that content I must speculate as others have done. I will state that those notable people shown in the video clips of 'The Secret' were also well-known as having connections to AMORC, and presumably practiced the teachings of the Order. But, this IN NO WAY assures ANYONE of unbridled success as these teachings enter their life. As I stated before, our individual past incarnations play a significant role in how completely our current pathway merges with those we have walked previously.
In summation, those of us who follow the teachings of the AMORC are not a cult, and the only connection to contemporary religious doctrines would be that they have borrowed from our teachings and not we from theirs.
Peace, profound!
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As it is a secret order, Brother, how did you come upon it? As I have not asked about the teachings I feel sure you can answer and honour your vow?

"As a sworn brother of the Order, I may not share significant details of the teachings I have received during the past 25 years; I will instead state that the 'healing techniques' encompass many different protocols including audio resonance and the regeneration of cellular structure.
Sound unbelieveable? That's precisely why these teachings are NOT in the public domain.
Recently -most notably at this forum-"
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Gsbltd,thank you for the information.
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TT very well considering. The sun sure is bright, better get out my box of sunglasses.


shroom


marching onward


I have studied alot of the AMORC writings.


Going back down my family line makes it even more interesting...


alot to be said for bloodlines and the Teutonic Knights even...figuring out all the strings that connect and interconnect...


Love to you TT keep on keeping on.

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btw Thanks for putting the healing information out there


The world soul is in great need for healing



All who can should for those who cannot or for those who will not-unleash the healing

smile_hear
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I liked the first few pamplets that they send out. Adhesion, and cohesion.

Hummm. Much to learn.
I studied with them for two years. Paid my dues and did all the studies.
They are a cult..
If that offends, sorry, but I was when I was younger a member..

They teach of the mystics also..
Much of their stuff is hidden until you raise into your rank.

Blessings to all
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Chun Moon.

When the universe was created sound came from the creator's mind. It held the creation law of the universe. In the Bible, God created the universe with sound. Super high frequency sound can change the shape of sand on a glass panel.

It is said that the sound from the creator's mind has the ability to control visible and invisible things. Chun Moon are cosmic sounds converted to human sounds.

We have to tune to a channel of TV to watch what we want. Like this, to receive original vital energy we have to "tune in" our frequency of mind and body. Chun Moon makes the frequency of mind and body tune to the frequency of original vital energy.

While we recite Chun Moon the vibration of sound is transferred to the upper, middle and lower danjeon. Each danjeon transfers this vibration to the 360 acupuncture points and 84000 energy pores. So, Chun Moon prepares the body to receive Original vital energy. Furthermore, we can enlighten our spirit through reciting Chun Moon and meditation because Chun Moon helps our body and mind tune to the mind of the universe.
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High level spiritual healing.

After cleaning his mind and body, the Chun Soo healer transfers original vital energy from the mind of the universe to the receiver through his body.
Cleansing mind and body means removing all thoughts except those of giving love and energy to the person. While cleaning his mind and body to
give original vital energy to the receiver, the frequency of the receiver's disease and mind is transferred to the Chun Soo healer. At that time, if
the healer begins Chun Soo he gives original vital energy and receives polluted energy from the receiver. The received polluted energy is purified by his ability and the original vital energy given to the receiver starts to activate and improve immunity and all facilities of life and existence.

Heavenly Fire penetrates blockage.
Chun Soo penetrates blockages in the meridians. To varying degrees, all patients have blocked meridians because illness starts from blockage, imbalance ofyin and yang and shortage ofki energy. With many blockages, even if he gives a lot of original vital energy to the receiver, it won't be properly absorbed. So to give original vital energy properly to the receiver, at first the blocked meridians should be opened.

Chun Soo is to give original vital energy, which is heavenly fire. Earthly fire can melt iron. Heavenly fire which is super fire brightens and melts blockages in the subtle body. So even though Chun Soo just looks like giving energy, it opens the ki pores with heavenly fire and gives original vital energy to the receiver.

The reason that people feel relaxed and lighter after Chun Soo is that the Chun Soo purifies the subtle body and penetrates blockages.

Chun Soo activates the whole body.

Chun Soo healers aren't concerned with the name of the receiver's disease because the transferred original vital energy has the ability to create life.

Generally, when a normal healer treats a person they first ask the name of the disease or problem area and then give intense ki energy to some certain parts of the body to release the pain or disease. Chun Soo healers make the receivers body recover by itself. In other words, Chun Soo strengthens the natural self-healing system.

Unlimited original vital energy.
Chun Soo does not transfer the healer's own energy but transfers original vital energy directly from the universe's mind through the Chun Soo healer.

If a normal person spends their ki over a certain limit, their power and energy decreases, immunity weakens and life span shortens. A normal healer cannot healing every day or over a certain number because they are giving ki which they received through training or spiritual channeling. So after spending their ki they need time to recharge or channel the spirit.

Chun Soo however is different. Chun Soo healers can treat others every day and with no limit of numbers, this is because they transfer original vital energy coming from the mind of the universe. A Chun Soo healers ability grows with as much Chun Soo that they give.

Chun Soo is a way to cleanse human beings karma. Chun Soo is not only receiving the energy of the receiver's disease and purifying their karma but also giving original vital energy. Humans have not just a body, but a mind and spirit also. When the Chun Soo healer gives Chun Soo he cleans his mind and body. After that, like a mirror the receiver's condition is transferred to the Chun Soo healer. While the Chun Soo healer gives original vital energy to the receiver, his ki and the receiver's ki are connected.

At this time the dark condition of the receiver's mind and body combines with the healer's mind and body. Then the healer begins to not only clean the dark condition, but also give original vital energy to the receiver.
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This is a great informative thread. Funny I came to much of this knowledge through my own accord. Well not mine but through divine revelation.

The Lord is once again moving upon us. All should come out in the open.
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ZF

The longer I'm on this Earth, and the more I read, the more I see that everything seems to come from the exact same source, different versions of the same truth...

Even the most dastardly "religion" will have strands of the same golden thread.
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Sophia exactly!
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"The Lord is once again moving upon us. All should come out in the open."


Very true,Zions Fled. The liars' and deceivers' days are drawing to a close;their time is short.
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"The Lord is once again moving upon us"

I see it more as The Lord is continuing to move within us, and those who have awakened to this movement within, are increasing.
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Sophia [#23]:

To answer your question regarding my personal 'discovery' of the Rosicrucian Order, AMORC ~~~

I honestly cannot recall how/when I first heard of the Order... my earliest involvement was when I was around 14-15 years of age [I'm now 52].
Even as a child I was always conscious
that I seemed to have lived before - and that my purpose in this life was to observe and assist. I was able to comprehend the undeniable connection each being has one to another and this planet we inhabit. Perhaps I was just naturally drawn to the Order; I do believe it has played a significant role in my past incarnations.

At one time, the Order would only accept initiates in a 100-year rotation. That is, they would accept new followers for 100 years and then lie fallow for the next century, and then repeat the process throughout history. You must remember that this Order has its origins several thousand years ago, and that in ancient times the teachers would choose their pupils most frequently from among the children of the ruling classes -thus restricting these 'special' teachings for the priviledged few. Whenever a youth exhibited an unusual awareness or predilection for this knowledge they would be accepted regardless of their social status.
Now, in this still-new millenium the presentations of the teachings has changed as has the organizational structure. However, the fundamental learnings remain much the same.
To the Poster who stated that the AMORC is a 'cult': you would do well to understand the definition of the word. It is from the Latin 'cultus' and means '...to worship.'
The rituals and ceremonies I have attended were not based upon worship
of any diety but rather centered on the gathering of individual energies to support a common, positive goal.
I would submit that your local churches and temples fall closer to the definition of a cult than AMORC.
However, I am not here to quibble over semantics and doctrines; my presence in this posting has been to examine the myths and facts of the Rosicrucian Order and to clarify some of its surrounding mysteries and misconceptions.
So, mote it be.
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"and that my purpose in this life was to observe and assist. "


Gsbltd,that should be everyones motivation;however,too many people do not see the forest for the trees. We as a society have become so self-centered oriented that most don't even think about ways they can assist others.
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Thanks for your reply. How did they find you, or you them, and where?

Do you share tenets, truths as espoused by Gnostic teachings?
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...you can find the rosicrucians if you want to.

there are several 'official' rosicrucian groups--each of them saying they are the real one...

if you google it, you can go to their various websites, and get a feel for the differences.

to me, some groups seem humbly authentic, some seem ego-driven. there are choices to be made.

I grew up around the teachings of amorc, I would never fault them, they are good people. I used to read Max Heindel when I was a young girl.

I never got any further into it--my path led elsewhere. But they are cool.
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Any good links to some info?