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gsbltd User ID: 70219 United States 02/05/2006 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 'TruthTeller:' This thread and your OP are collectively very misleading regarding the 'truth' about the Roscicrucian Order. Perhaps I can explain: I've been a member of the Rosicrucian Order AMORC for nearly 25 years, and although -as stated in your OP- we rarely proclaim our presence, as with all things there is a time and a place. Such is today. The original Order is much, much older than your OP info suggests and can be traced to the Essenes of Quumran and before that to the Egyptian high priests of the first Dynasty. The teachings of the Order are NOT meant for EVERYONE... but only for those who actively seek the knowledge and are willing to apply it in a positive manner to guide others. The Rosicrucian Fellowship you mention is just one of many splinter groups that have come into being since before the time of Martin Luther, and a period of 'religious enlightenment.' Many new initiates into the original order disagreed with the ancient teachings and so, began their own fraternal organizations. 'C. Rosenkreuz' and Max Heindel fall into this category. [Rosenkreuz actually changed his name to make his teachings seem more legitimate to the uniformed] The North American branch of the Rosicrucian Order AMORC began in roughly the same time frame as your Rosicrucian Fellowship - BUT THEY ARE NOT THE SAME ENTITY. You will find the AMORC international HQ in San Jose- not Oceanside, California. As an organization, AMORC does not judge or publicly comment on the existence or activities of others who use the name, 'Rosicrucian.' The name/word -like the Order itself- is much older and used almost to a generic quality. Concerning your OP analysis of the Order's teachings: in general, they are accurate; however, AMORC places less emphasis on scriptural references since these are [and always have been] permutations of the ancient doctrines and rituals. However, the concepts of reincarnation are quite strong in the AMORC teachings. As a sworn brother of the Order, I may not share significant details of the teachings I have received during the past 25 years; I will instead state that the 'healing techniques' encompass many different protocols including audio resonance and the regeneration of cellular structure. Sound unbelieveable? That's precisely why these teachings are NOT in the public domain. Recently -most notably at this forum- much speculation has been made concerning the release of a TV event called 'The Secret' and how it's contents may be connected to those of the Order. Without access to that content I must speculate as others have done. I will state that those notable people shown in the video clips of 'The Secret' were also well-known as having connections to AMORC, and presumably practiced the teachings of the Order. But, this IN NO WAY assures ANYONE of unbridled success as these teachings enter their life. As I stated before, our individual past incarnations play a significant role in how completely our current pathway merges with those we have walked previously. In summation, those of us who follow the teachings of the AMORC are not a cult, and the only connection to contemporary religious doctrines would be that they have borrowed from our teachings and not we from theirs. Peace, profound! |
sophia User ID: 23 New Zealand 02/05/2006 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As it is a secret order, Brother, how did you come upon it? As I have not asked about the teachings I feel sure you can answer and honour your vow? "As a sworn brother of the Order, I may not share significant details of the teachings I have received during the past 25 years; I will instead state that the 'healing techniques' encompass many different protocols including audio resonance and the regeneration of cellular structure. Sound unbelieveable? That's precisely why these teachings are NOT in the public domain. Recently -most notably at this forum-" |
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Shadow Dancer User ID: 43368 United States 02/05/2006 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | marching onward I have studied alot of the AMORC writings. Going back down my family line makes it even more interesting... alot to be said for bloodlines and the Teutonic Knights even...figuring out all the strings that connect and interconnect... Love to you TT keep on keeping on. All choices have consequences, choose wisely, CHOOSE WISELY. |
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little star User ID: 14235 United States 02/05/2006 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I liked the first few pamplets that they send out. Adhesion, and cohesion. Hummm. Much to learn. I studied with them for two years. Paid my dues and did all the studies. They are a cult.. If that offends, sorry, but I was when I was younger a member.. They teach of the mystics also.. Much of their stuff is hidden until you raise into your rank. Blessings to all |
sophia User ID: 23 New Zealand 02/05/2006 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chun Moon. When the universe was created sound came from the creator's mind. It held the creation law of the universe. In the Bible, God created the universe with sound. Super high frequency sound can change the shape of sand on a glass panel. It is said that the sound from the creator's mind has the ability to control visible and invisible things. Chun Moon are cosmic sounds converted to human sounds. We have to tune to a channel of TV to watch what we want. Like this, to receive original vital energy we have to "tune in" our frequency of mind and body. Chun Moon makes the frequency of mind and body tune to the frequency of original vital energy. While we recite Chun Moon the vibration of sound is transferred to the upper, middle and lower danjeon. Each danjeon transfers this vibration to the 360 acupuncture points and 84000 energy pores. So, Chun Moon prepares the body to receive Original vital energy. Furthermore, we can enlighten our spirit through reciting Chun Moon and meditation because Chun Moon helps our body and mind tune to the mind of the universe. |
sophia User ID: 23 New Zealand 02/05/2006 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | High level spiritual healing. After cleaning his mind and body, the Chun Soo healer transfers original vital energy from the mind of the universe to the receiver through his body. Cleansing mind and body means removing all thoughts except those of giving love and energy to the person. While cleaning his mind and body to give original vital energy to the receiver, the frequency of the receiver's disease and mind is transferred to the Chun Soo healer. At that time, if the healer begins Chun Soo he gives original vital energy and receives polluted energy from the receiver. The received polluted energy is purified by his ability and the original vital energy given to the receiver starts to activate and improve immunity and all facilities of life and existence. Heavenly Fire penetrates blockage. Chun Soo penetrates blockages in the meridians. To varying degrees, all patients have blocked meridians because illness starts from blockage, imbalance ofyin and yang and shortage ofki energy. With many blockages, even if he gives a lot of original vital energy to the receiver, it won't be properly absorbed. So to give original vital energy properly to the receiver, at first the blocked meridians should be opened. Chun Soo is to give original vital energy, which is heavenly fire. Earthly fire can melt iron. Heavenly fire which is super fire brightens and melts blockages in the subtle body. So even though Chun Soo just looks like giving energy, it opens the ki pores with heavenly fire and gives original vital energy to the receiver. The reason that people feel relaxed and lighter after Chun Soo is that the Chun Soo purifies the subtle body and penetrates blockages. Chun Soo activates the whole body. Chun Soo healers aren't concerned with the name of the receiver's disease because the transferred original vital energy has the ability to create life. Generally, when a normal healer treats a person they first ask the name of the disease or problem area and then give intense ki energy to some certain parts of the body to release the pain or disease. Chun Soo healers make the receivers body recover by itself. In other words, Chun Soo strengthens the natural self-healing system. Unlimited original vital energy. Chun Soo does not transfer the healer's own energy but transfers original vital energy directly from the universe's mind through the Chun Soo healer. If a normal person spends their ki over a certain limit, their power and energy decreases, immunity weakens and life span shortens. A normal healer cannot healing every day or over a certain number because they are giving ki which they received through training or spiritual channeling. So after spending their ki they need time to recharge or channel the spirit. Chun Soo however is different. Chun Soo healers can treat others every day and with no limit of numbers, this is because they transfer original vital energy coming from the mind of the universe. A Chun Soo healers ability grows with as much Chun Soo that they give. Chun Soo is a way to cleanse human beings karma. Chun Soo is not only receiving the energy of the receiver's disease and purifying their karma but also giving original vital energy. Humans have not just a body, but a mind and spirit also. When the Chun Soo healer gives Chun Soo he cleans his mind and body. After that, like a mirror the receiver's condition is transferred to the Chun Soo healer. While the Chun Soo healer gives original vital energy to the receiver, his ki and the receiver's ki are connected. At this time the dark condition of the receiver's mind and body combines with the healer's mind and body. Then the healer begins to not only clean the dark condition, but also give original vital energy to the receiver. |
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gsbltd User ID: 70219 United States 02/05/2006 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To answer your question regarding my personal 'discovery' of the Rosicrucian Order, AMORC ~~~ I honestly cannot recall how/when I first heard of the Order... my earliest involvement was when I was around 14-15 years of age [I'm now 52]. Even as a child I was always conscious that I seemed to have lived before - and that my purpose in this life was to observe and assist. I was able to comprehend the undeniable connection each being has one to another and this planet we inhabit. Perhaps I was just naturally drawn to the Order; I do believe it has played a significant role in my past incarnations. At one time, the Order would only accept initiates in a 100-year rotation. That is, they would accept new followers for 100 years and then lie fallow for the next century, and then repeat the process throughout history. You must remember that this Order has its origins several thousand years ago, and that in ancient times the teachers would choose their pupils most frequently from among the children of the ruling classes -thus restricting these 'special' teachings for the priviledged few. Whenever a youth exhibited an unusual awareness or predilection for this knowledge they would be accepted regardless of their social status. Now, in this still-new millenium the presentations of the teachings has changed as has the organizational structure. However, the fundamental learnings remain much the same. To the Poster who stated that the AMORC is a 'cult': you would do well to understand the definition of the word. It is from the Latin 'cultus' and means '...to worship.' The rituals and ceremonies I have attended were not based upon worship of any diety but rather centered on the gathering of individual energies to support a common, positive goal. I would submit that your local churches and temples fall closer to the definition of a cult than AMORC. However, I am not here to quibble over semantics and doctrines; my presence in this posting has been to examine the myths and facts of the Rosicrucian Order and to clarify some of its surrounding mysteries and misconceptions. So, mote it be. |
TruthTeller (OP) User ID: 26602 United States 02/05/2006 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "and that my purpose in this life was to observe and assist. " Gsbltd,that should be everyones motivation;however,too many people do not see the forest for the trees. We as a society have become so self-centered oriented that most don't even think about ways they can assist others. |
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ac10 User ID: 422 United States 02/05/2006 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...you can find the rosicrucians if you want to. there are several 'official' rosicrucian groups--each of them saying they are the real one... if you google it, you can go to their various websites, and get a feel for the differences. to me, some groups seem humbly authentic, some seem ego-driven. there are choices to be made. I grew up around the teachings of amorc, I would never fault them, they are good people. I used to read Max Heindel when I was a young girl. I never got any further into it--my path led elsewhere. But they are cool. |
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