The Sun Was Supposed To Set At 4:41 Central Time In Missouri, 12/18 , Still Hasn't Set At 5:01

"the civil twilight lasted until 6:15 pm." Sorry? You determined that, how?

Uh, simple...do you even know the meaning of civil twilight you dweeb? if not then let me s'plain:
Civil twilight is defined to begin in the morning, and to end in the evening when the center of the Sun is geometrically 6 degrees below the horizon. This is the limit at which twilight illumination is sufficient, under good weather conditions, for terrestrial objects to be clearly distinguished; at the beginning of morning civil twilight, or end of evening civil twilight, the horizon is clearly defined and the brightest stars are visible under good atmospheric conditions in the absence of moonlight or other illumination. In the morning before the beginning of civil twilight and in the evening after the end of civil twilight, artificial illumination is normally required to carry on ordinary outdoor activities. And before you even say it, no, it was not the moon "illuminating" the sky. The sky was still light from the sun setting.

Greetings Dr. Astro, thank you for your data and input on the matter. I appreciate your mind for its scientific observations and points of view, however my experience finds this perspective disrespective to what is mans greatest scientific tool for discovery: his observations of perceptions of 10+ senses.

You have precise astronomic tools that can take fine measurements of the physical world around us...and these measurements represent the physical world around us represented as a number, a figure, a value of scientific meaning and measure - based on our understandings of truth of our knowledge on astronomy, physics, mathematics, etc...but what does it really mean? - Well, really only whatever meaning we've given to it based on the truths of the world that we have come to believe.

I do believe my knowledge of understanding is incomplete.

I am a scientist.

I make observations.

My tools are my senses, and I find their information meaningful respective to the truths that my understanding and knowledge are based upon.

Our senses allow us to discover. Without senses we would either have the knowledge of everything, or nothing @ all.

I have faith, trust, and belief to know what my body senses and what it tells me, and this I believe is a scientific tool with figures that have a lot more meaning....but only if what I believe is true.

Thank you again for you astronomical scientific input!

Uh, simple...do you even know the meaning of civil twilight you dweeb? if not then let me s'plain:
Civil twilight is defined to begin in the morning, and to end in the evening when the center of the Sun is geometrically 6 degrees below the horizon. This is the limit at which twilight illumination is sufficient, under good weather conditions, for terrestrial objects to be clearly distinguished; at the beginning of morning civil twilight, or end of evening civil twilight, the horizon is clearly defined and the brightest stars are visible under good atmospheric conditions in the absence of moonlight or other illumination. In the morning before the beginning of civil twilight and in the evening after the end of civil twilight, artificial illumination is normally required to carry on ordinary outdoor activities. And before you even say it, no, it was not the moon "illuminating" the sky. The sky was still light from the sun setting.

Shill or Troll? (or uneducated)

SO I ask you: how many degrees the Sun can rise from the East ---> to the North in winter season?

Tell us the max in degrees.



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if you are referring to me, i assure you i am no shill, i am stating an observation and a viewpoint-nothing more. you would be better served if you open yourself up to different ideas that may be contrary to what you are comfortable believing.

Driving home during and just after sunset..

I noticed the rosy sunset glow in my rear view..
Then I noticed a pink glow on the horizon.. 360 degrees of glow..

And, no.. I didn't take a picture..but I saw it.

that's rather common going from one brightly lit area (city/town) to another.

So I'm half way through this and you guys MUST see this ASAP. I watched it when it was first aired and it went in one ear and out the other but now I'm paying attention. Those who watch it please tell me what you think. I'd like to discuss it. I know some of you might say oh the History Channel they are full of it but seriously just watch this one.


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You guys please please please watch that video it covers some of the things we've been talking about and it made sense to me I know its long at an hour and a half but its worth it. So much is covered in the first 30 minutes alone.