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I've seen this and I believe a thread is needed to collect more info.


Venus Transit

A transit of Venus across the Sun takes place when the planet Venus passes directly between the Sun and Earth (or another planet), becoming visible against (and hence obscuring a small portion of) the solar disk. During a transit, Venus can be seen from Earth as a small black disk moving across the face of the Sun. The duration of such transits is usually measured in hours.
 Quoting: Wiki



Transits of Venus are among the rarest of predictable astronomical phenomena.[1] They occur in a pattern that generally repeats every 243 years, with pairs of transits eight years apart.
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I guess everyone remember we had a Venus transit this year, as explained, they come in pairs eight years apart. The last Venus transit was in 8th June 2004.


201 days after the event, or 6 months and 18 days, on 26th December we had the big earthquake in Indonesia.
I'll get back on that later, for now I would like to talk about the events in the previous pair of Venus's transits.

The previous pair of transits were in December 1874 and December 1882.


First transit: 9th December 1874.

Possible related event: 1875 Cúcuta earthquake.

It's important to check the dates here, this earthquake hit 7.5M and happened on 18 May 1875. It was 160 days, or 5 months and 9 days after the transit.

The Earthquake of Cúcuta also known as Earthquake of the Andes was an earthquake that occurred on 18 May 1875 at 11:15 AM. It completely demolished Cúcuta, Villa del Rosario (Colombia), San Antonio del Tachira and Capacho (Venezuela). The earthquake killed many Venezuelans in San Cristóbal, La Mulata, Rubio, Michelena, La Grita, Colón, amongst others, and was felt in both Bogotá and Caracas.

That day, the city of Cúcuta and the town of Villa del Rosario, in the Norte de Santander department (Colombia) and the municipalities of San Antonio del Táchira and Capacho, Táchira State (Venezuela) were destroyed totally by this catastrophic earthquake. Villa del Rosario was a historical and calm population. In 1821 had met in the main church (nowsdays Historic church) to means to construct, the members of the First Congress of the Great Colombia, known as Congress of Cúcuta.
[...]
The earthquake covered 5 degrees of Latitude and was 500 miles long.[7] Populated areas affected were, Villa of the Rosary, San Luis, Salazar, Woods of the Palms, Gramalote, Bochalema and San Faustino in Colombia. San Antonio, Capacho, San Cristóbal, the Mulata, Rubio, Michelena, La Grita, Colón in Venezuela. In addition it was also felt in Bogota and Caracas.
 Quoting: Wiki


[link to en.wikipedia.org]



Second transit: 6th December 1882
Possible related events: 1883 Krakatoa eruption and Italy earthquake.

Again we should check the dates to see how the pattern emerge. 165 days, or 5 months and 14 days after the Venus transit, Krakatoa became active again.

After a long period of inactivity (about 200 years), Krakatoa became active again in early 1883. The first indication that something was happening on Krakatoa was when a large earthquake struck the area. Seismic activity became stronger until May 20,1883, when the volcano abruptly came to life.
 Quoting: obsevation




The 1883 eruption of Krakatoa in the Dutch East Indies, began in May 1883 and culminated with several destructive eruptions of the Krakatoa caldera on 26 August 1883, destroying much of the island and its surrounding archipelago.
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This eruption was a huge event and had major geographic effects and even prompted a small climate change, you can read more on this link:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

I'm not much of a Wikipedia fan, but its usually the easier links to make posts, the following is also a good read regarding this eruption:
[link to www.drgeorgepc.com]

The major eruption happened at August, but the primary increase in activity happened abruptly at 20th May.
Apparently there was also a major earthquake on the year of 1883, which struck in Italy, I'm mentioning that but I'm not sure if its so important regarding the Venus transit, anyways, it happened in late July.


We can go back briefly to the previous pair of transits, they happened on 1761 and 1769. The first happened at 6th June 1761. December 9th of the same year a 7.7M quake hit Russia, a couple of months later, on 2nd April 1762, a 8.8M quake hit near Bangladesh. Still on 1762 and back to Russia, the Klyuchevskaya Sopka which apparently is sacred to indigenous groups erupted.


The second of that pair happened on 3rd June 1769. Exactly one year after that, on 3rd June 1770, an earthquake measuring 7.5M struck Haiti. Apparently on the same year the Kilauea volcano erupted, but I can't seem to find more information on that.


Now let's take a look at what this might represent for us.

I got to this website talking about a mayan specialist and what the venus transit could mean.

Lord Pakal was trained as a Mayan priest-astronomer under the keen eyes of the elders of the Ancient Order of Chilam Balam and its Nine Degrees in Mexico from a very young age. Three months before the Venus transit, Pakal warned in his web site that a global catastrophe was about to take place at the end of 2004. How did he know?

Pakal explains, “Mayan tribes had a very sophisticated system of predictive warning, similar to the ‘sense of warning’ of animals. Humans have lost this precious skill and have replaced it with new satellite communication technology which is more reactive than preventive.”

During the 2004 transit of Venus, Pakal observed the sequence of the Sun and Venus. The egress of Venus from the Sun gave him the clue. From the geographical conditions and visibility locations on June 8, 2004, we can see the entire transit is visible from Europe, Africa (except western parts), Middle East, and most of Asia (except eastern parts). The Sun sets while the transit is still in progress from Australia, Indonesia, Japan, Philippines, Korea, easternmost China and Southeast Asia.
 Quoting: .


[link to pakalahau.wordpress.com]

The website has a small image, so I took another one, an image of transit visibility on 2004. I added a white ball marker to mark the epicenter of the Sumatra earthquake:

2004transit


The 9.3M Earthquake struck the region 201 days after the transit, or 6 months and 18 days.

The 2012 Venus transit took place on 6th June. If we add 201 days to that date, we reach 24th December 2012.

Seeing the previous pair info, the first event happened 160 days after the first transit, and the second event happened 165 days after the second transit. So we can add 5 more days to this date, this will give us a timeframe between 24th and 29th December.

This is an image of 2012's transit if you want to draw any conclusions:

2012transit

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Hey there,

this is some nice collection of infos.
Red about this a while ago.
Definetely something to watch.

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I just added the 2012 transit visibility, I must say, if we take a look at the 2004 chart with the sumatra quake and apply the same pattern to the 2012 graph, the location would be near Hawaii. Isn't Obama on 'vacation' there?

Compare both please.


2004transit

2012transit


Oh boy.

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If Venus = M1
and Earth = M2

What is the F of G between them ?
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If Venus = M1
and Earth = M2

What is the F of G between them ?
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fire.
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Maybe Odoomer knows this and is a secret deom addict and wants to be right where the action is

scratching

Is that white dot-spot on the 04 map supposed to show where the 2004 Sumatraquake has hit?

I just added the 2012 transit visibility, I must say, if we take a look at the 2004 chart with the sumatra quake and apply the same pattern to the 2012 graph, the location would be near Hawaii. Isn't Obama on 'vacation' there?

Compare both please.
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Maybe he's gonna come out of there after all of it happens with a wounded head.

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Yep, the white dot is the epicenter of the quake, I saw it on the website I linked but the image was too small there, so I uploaded a different one, I couldn't put colors on the ball though tounge

Maybe Odoomer knows this and is a secret deom addict and wants to be right where the action is

scratching

Is that white dot-spot on the 04 map supposed to show where the 2004 Sumatraquake has hit?

I just added the 2012 transit visibility, I must say, if we take a look at the 2004 chart with the sumatra quake and apply the same pattern to the 2012 graph, the location would be near Hawaii. Isn't Obama on 'vacation' there?

Compare both please.
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 Quoting: Artaius

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If Venus = M1
and Earth = M2

What is the F of G between them ?
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fire.
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Nope.

F = force
G = gravity
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Is it possible the Copahue Volcano or Black Sea 6.0 was 'it'?damned
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Is it possible the Copahue Volcano or Black Sea 6.0 was 'it'?damned
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I don't know, maybe they are related, maybe not,I was expecting a bigger event.

But regarding volcanic activity 2012 has been crazy all along. There are many more volcanic eruptions than usual.
lets wait and see
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Venus represents a NEW BEGINNING to the Mayan's. Re-Birth if you will. Very interesting timing.
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Might want to keep an eye on March 28, 2013
which is the superior end of Sun-Venus calendar #justsayin

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Venus represents a NEW BEGINNING to the Mayan's. Re-Birth if you will. Very interesting timing.
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Yes!

Venus is very important as it represents fire!




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Venus represents a NEW BEGINNING to the Mayan's. Re-Birth if you will. Very interesting timing.
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is it in a sort of transit right now?
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Venus represents a NEW BEGINNING to the Mayan's. Re-Birth if you will. Very interesting timing.
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is it in a sort of transit right now?
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No, the transit happened on June, still its a somewhat rare celestial event and it could have an effect on us later on..
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Venus represents a NEW BEGINNING to the Mayan's. Re-Birth if you will. Very interesting timing.
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is it in a sort of transit right now?
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No, the transit happened on June, still its a somewhat rare celestial event and it could have an effect on us later on..
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thanks. maybe it could even have an effect on us now.
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Venus represents a NEW BEGINNING to the Mayan's. Re-Birth if you will. Very interesting timing.
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is it in a sort of transit right now?
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No, the transit happened on June, still its a somewhat rare celestial event and it could have an effect on us later on..
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This is the part our dumbed down and instant gratification society overlook. Whatever is supposed to happen in space happens when it is said to happen. The sun shines it takes some time to reach us here....

How long the effects and changes in the solar system takes to reach us is another matter. We could really have traversed the point they called the dark rift point and with this venus transit, who knows what impact this will have on us.

The fact remains that our planet and indeed life is very fragile and we cant just live life in reckless abandon especially since we don't know all the dynamics of this solar system. We need to strike a balance of some sort and cherish life and those around us. Disaster doesn't have to strike us for us to know others' lives are being daily affected.
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No, the transit happened on June, still its a somewhat rare celestial event and it could have an effect on us later on..
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This is the part our dumbed down and instant gratification society overlook. Whatever is supposed to happen in space happens when it is said to happen. The sun shines it takes some time to reach us here....

How long the effects and changes in the solar system takes to reach us is another matter. We could really have traversed the point they called the dark rift point and with this venus transit, who knows what impact this will have on us.

The fact remains that our planet and indeed life is very fragile and we cant just live life in reckless abandon especially since we don't know all the dynamics of this solar system. We need to strike a balance of some sort and cherish life and those around us. Disaster doesn't have to strike us for us to know others' lives are being daily affected.
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Let's have a look at the Venus transits of the 2nd and 3rd millenium:

Venus transit: June 8, 2004
Sumatra EQ and Tsunami: December 26, 2004 - 6 1/2 month after the transit.


Venus transit: December 6, 1882
Krakatoa explosion August 27, 1883 - 8 1/2 month after the Venus transit, not 6 month.


Venus transit: December 9, 1874
Askja vulcano:
February 1874 plumes of steam
January 1875 columns of smoke and fire
March 29, 1875 start of the explosiv main phase - 3 1/2 month after the transit, not 6 month.

16 Venus transits and (to be generous) 3 hits.


And what kind of transit happened 6 month before the following earth quakes?

2011 03 11 - Japan - 9.0
2010 02 27 - Chile - 8.8
2005 03 28 - Indonesia - 8.6
1965 02 04 - Alaska - 8.7
1964 03 28 - Alaska - 9.2
1960 05 22 - Chile - 9.5
1952 11 04 - Kamchatka - 9.0
1950 08 15 - Tibet - 8.6
1906 01 31 - Ecuador - 8.8
aso


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Venus represents a NEW BEGINNING to the Mayan's. Re-Birth if you will. Very interesting timing.
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Yes!

Venus is very important as it represents fire!




The Venus Transit Child
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 Quoting: 1908247


I love that image.

Almost too unbelievably beautiful to be believed...

[link to images.nationalgeographic.com]

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Why is this thread not pinned while some retarded 'five star general' humanwaste is

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Well, can you read?
Who said, that there is a Venus Transit before every huge EQ?

1doh1

Let's have a look at the Venus transits of the 2nd and 3rd millenium:

Venus transit: June 8, 2004
Sumatra EQ and Tsunami: December 26, 2004 - 6 1/2 month after the transit.


Venus transit: December 6, 1882
Krakatoa explosion August 27, 1883 - 8 1/2 month after the Venus transit, not 6 month.


Venus transit: December 9, 1874
Askja vulcano:
February 1874 plumes of steam
January 1875 columns of smoke and fire
March 29, 1875 start of the explosiv main phase - 3 1/2 month after the transit, not 6 month.

16 Venus transits and (to be generous) 3 hits.


And what kind of transit happened 6 month before the following earth quakes?

2011 03 11 - Japan - 9.0
2010 02 27 - Chile - 8.8
2005 03 28 - Indonesia - 8.6
1965 02 04 - Alaska - 8.7
1964 03 28 - Alaska - 9.2
1960 05 22 - Chile - 9.5
1952 11 04 - Kamchatka - 9.0
1950 08 15 - Tibet - 8.6
1906 01 31 - Ecuador - 8.8
aso


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Let's have a look at the Venus transits of the 2nd and 3rd millenium:

Venus transit: June 8, 2004
Sumatra EQ and Tsunami: December 26, 2004 - 6 1/2 month after the transit.


Venus transit: December 6, 1882
Krakatoa explosion August 27, 1883 - 8 1/2 month after the Venus transit, not 6 month.


Venus transit: December 9, 1874
Askja vulcano:
February 1874 plumes of steam
January 1875 columns of smoke and fire
March 29, 1875 start of the explosiv main phase - 3 1/2 month after the transit, not 6 month.

16 Venus transits and (to be generous) 3 hits.


And what kind of transit happened 6 month before the following earth quakes?

2011 03 11 - Japan - 9.0
2010 02 27 - Chile - 8.8
2005 03 28 - Indonesia - 8.6
1965 02 04 - Alaska - 8.7
1964 03 28 - Alaska - 9.2
1960 05 22 - Chile - 9.5
1952 11 04 - Kamchatka - 9.0
1950 08 15 - Tibet - 8.6
1906 01 31 - Ecuador - 8.8
aso


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The fact that events happen without a Venus transit does not necessarialy mean the transit as a celestial ocurrence does not provoke an effect on Earth. Many celestial events, alignments, etc can very well have a link to events here on our planet, people have been figuring this out.

About Krakatoa I guess you didn't read through the OP.
The volcano became active on May next year, which would match the timeframe of the previous transit.

Second transit: 6th December 1882
Possible related events: 1883 Krakatoa eruption and Italy earthquake.

Again we should check the dates to see how the pattern emerge. 165 days, or 5 months and 14 days after the Venus transit, Krakatoa became active again.

After a long period of inactivity (about 200 years), Krakatoa became active again in early 1883. The first indication that something was happening on Krakatoa was when a large earthquake struck the area. Seismic activity became stronger until May 20,1883, when the volcano abruptly came to life.
 Quoting: obsevation




The 1883 eruption of Krakatoa in the Dutch East Indies, began in May 1883 and culminated with several destructive eruptions of the Krakatoa caldera on 26 August 1883, destroying much of the island and its surrounding archipelago.
 Quoting: Wiki


 Quoting: 1908247



But hey, I'm just putting some pieces together and throwing it out there, I can't be sure about this stuff.
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'May' seems to be an especially active month from your research Brazil.

May 18, 1980 was also the Eruption of Mount St. Helens.
The day after my 3rd birthday.

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I remember being quite effected unconsciously, as I had nightmares involving 'volcanoes' for years after.

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Selectiv reading?

16 Venus transits - three hits, at best.
Why doesn't anything happen 6 month after the other 13 Venus transits?

Oh I know: Who said, that there is a huge EQ after every Venus Transit?

Well, can you read?
Who said, that there is a Venus Transit before every huge EQ?

1doh1

Let's have a look at the Venus transits of the 2nd and 3rd millenium:

Venus transit: June 8, 2004
Sumatra EQ and Tsunami: December 26, 2004 - 6 1/2 month after the transit.


Venus transit: December 6, 1882
Krakatoa explosion August 27, 1883 - 8 1/2 month after the Venus transit, not 6 month.


Venus transit: December 9, 1874
Askja vulcano:
February 1874 plumes of steam
January 1875 columns of smoke and fire
March 29, 1875 start of the explosiv main phase - 3 1/2 month after the transit, not 6 month.

16 Venus transits and (to be generous) 3 hits.


And what kind of transit happened 6 month before the following earth quakes?

2011 03 11 - Japan - 9.0
2010 02 27 - Chile - 8.8
2005 03 28 - Indonesia - 8.6
1965 02 04 - Alaska - 8.7
1964 03 28 - Alaska - 9.2
1960 05 22 - Chile - 9.5
1952 11 04 - Kamchatka - 9.0
1950 08 15 - Tibet - 8.6
1906 01 31 - Ecuador - 8.8
aso


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I just added the 2012 transit visibility, I must say, if we take a look at the 2004 chart with the sumatra quake and apply the same pattern to the 2012 graph, the location would be near Hawaii. Isn't Obama on 'vacation' there?

Compare both please.



Oh boy.

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If your theory is correct and obama knows this but still chose to be in Hawaii. If the earthquake indeed strikes there and they've known this for a long time, he will probably be in a safe region but yet create the impression in the minds of the masses of somethings happening to him and something really wrong about all this.

Perhaps this could be have far reaching impact beyond Hawaii and the Doomgasm begins once again. I cant even imagine the emotional energy that can be tapped from such a scenario.

The Fiscal cliff takes a backstage in this instance. Maybe all this fear and financial problems is contrived to generate even more fear from the masses. Perhaps they know what's around the corner......Hmmmm!

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Venus represents a NEW BEGINNING to the Mayan's. Re-Birth if you will. Very interesting timing.
 Quoting: 2012Portal


Yes!

Venus is very important as it represents fire!




The Venus Transit Child
[link to www.oddly-even.com]
 Quoting: 1908247


I love that image.

Almost too unbelievably beautiful to be believed...

[link to images.nationalgeographic.com]

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


'May' seems to be an especially active month from your research Brazil.

May 18, 1980 was also the Eruption of Mount St. Helens.
The day after my 3rd birthday.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]



I remember being quite effected unconsciously, as I had nightmares involving 'volcanoes' for years after.

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 Quoting: Seer777


How curious, my sister was born on the 14th May.

The month of May this year was very important to me by the way. As was the 6th of June, day of the Venus transit, I had curious experiences on both days. Actually the timeframe of May and early June was pretty special this year, supermoon, lunar and solar eclipses, venus transit, etc..
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Re: Venus Transit and Tectonic Activity - History - 24-29th December, Hawaii ??

2011 03 11 - Japan - 9.0


2010 02 27 - Chile - 8.8
2005 03 28 - Indonesia - 8.6



 Quoting: Hydra


Interesting to note perhaps regarding the Japanese earthquake and tsunami...

After the wave pulled back, and clean up began, it was said the Japanese found an ancient stone up on a hill.


The stone bore a message,

"Never build below this point.."






"Look...all the Thais running..."

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Re: Venus Transit and Tectonic Activity - History - 24-29th December, Hawaii ??
I just added the 2012 transit visibility, I must say, if we take a look at the 2004 chart with the sumatra quake and apply the same pattern to the 2012 graph, the location would be near Hawaii. Isn't Obama on 'vacation' there?

Compare both please.



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 Quoting: 1908247


If your theory is correct and obama knows this but still chose to be in Hawaii. If the earthquake indeed strikes there and they've known this for a long time, he will probably be in a safe region but yet create the impression in the minds of the masses of somethings happening to him and something really wrong about all this.

Perhaps this could be have far reaching impact beyond Hawaii and the Doomgasm begins once again. I cant even imagine the emotional energy that can be tapped from such a scenario.

The Fiscal cliff takes a backstage in this instance. Maybe all this fear and financial problems is contrived to generate even more fear from the masses. Perhaps they know what's around the corner......Hmmmm!
 Quoting: Ohwell


Good points, if this is real, it wouldn't surprise me if they get a way to use it for their benefit.
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