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Immortals walk amongst us.

 
Syrec  (OP)

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mysticalamber, feel free to ask a question, I will try to accommodate.
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what a bunch of
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syrec...thank u ....... are vampires part of this group?.....can u become an immortal out of wanting or is it just some of us are?.....
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The Conquest of Death
by Kevalin Absoluto

The potential power locked-up in the core of a human self is unlimited. In spite of this present limitation, the inner power is nonetheless slightly active in the deepest and highest aspiration we can conceive for ourselves. Take, for instance, the desire for real, physical immortality beyond the mere ability of Siddhas, Abdals and Naguals to materialize their energy body or etheric double. Auro-Mother, under the inspiration of Aurobindo, attempted to do this, but failed due to being buried alive by her ignorant, deluded followers. Sat Prem, who has reported on all this, has also made the attempt to realize what he, Auro-Mother and Aurobindo have believed would-be a world-first cosmic and Divine achievement in a human body. But there are reports of a great Yogi by the name of Dwivedi, who has physically lived for thousands of years since the time when Lord Krishna was physically alive as an avatar of Vishnu, the Solar Deity, Surya Narayan. Dwivedi is a spiritual adept who lives on Soma mixed with cow’s milk in a hidden valley of the Himalaya. In the legends of Shambhala, he is the one the Tibetan Buddhists call Somanath, Master of Soma, who restored lost esoteric Buddhist teachings to Shambhala. I myself was introduced to a tall immortal called by the name Gunidhir Drona Swami, also alive from the days of Krishna. A great Shakta Yogi in Ujjain by the name of Swami Swarupananda has also told me a story of how he met with a group of physically alive tall immortals at Kalimath, which is on the pilgrimage route to Kedarnath in Uttar Pradesh. We should also keep in mind that the great Guru Rimpoche, Padma Sambhava, self-born on a giant lotus flower with the help of Dakinis, extraterrestrials, is also purportedly still physically alive to this day, having migrated to Latin America, probably Mayan Mexico, over a thousand years ago, and who may be one and the same with the person called Xoxonapo, The Tenant or The Death-Defier, by the Naguals who taught Carlos Castaneda. Hence there is considerable evidence of more than one supramental immortalized physical person on our planet Earth. The potential for genuine physical immortality thus stands confirmed for those who have the knowledge. The legend of the Eight Immortals of Ancient China is based on similar real knowledge of various seekers and Taoist Yogis throughout history in China. In Nepal and Assam, Matsyendranath, Master of the Lord of the Fish, is reportedly still physically alive to this day and is worshipped by Buddhists as Avalokiteshwar, the Bodhisattva of Compassion. When Padma Sambhava told the Tibetans he was going away to Latin America to lead and convert members of a vampire religion, probably referring to the old Mayan Vampire Cult, he reassured those Tibetans that they would always have the immortal Bodhisattva of Compassion as their friend and guide. As for the Mayan Vampire Cult, they were like the modern Illuminati Satanists who lengthen their lifespan through ritual murdering little children and drinking their relatively pure blood. The old Mayan culture was so full of this nefarious human “sacrifice” practice, that Padma Sambhava elected to show the Real way of physical immortalization to those who could grasp it, which explains a strange shift in Mayan culture at one time. Whatever the case, we are left with the profound issue of our potential for real physical immortality.



The Nagual, Juan Matus, said to Carlos Castaneda, “Death only exists because we have intended it since the moment of our birth. Hence, the intent of death can be suspended by making the assemblage point move.” Interestingly, Auro-Mother said the same thing to Sat Prem, that we go into old age and death because of the position of our consciousness with all the normal activities and beliefs that society has trained us in, so what we need to do is simply (?) change the position of our consciousness. The position of our consciousness is thus one and the same as the position of our assemblage point as described by the Nagual Seers.



The necessary shift of consciousness cannot take place as long as we are reinforcing the normal societal position of the assemblage point through imagining that money, fame or secular power will solve our problems and make us happy by bringing us social importance, property or new sex-partners. Look, for instance, at how clever, brainy people of the world of money, business, media influence and politics go about in beautiful clothes but impure bodies, speaking against spiritual aspiration and Yoga, slandering any and all possible Guru(s), including even genuine Adepts. Such people become terribly desperate when a serious disease comes to them as a natural result of their wrong living. They spend a fortune on insurance for their life and property, but it cannot give them real health or security. Sometimes they will crack-up and go in search of a real adept healer and offer vast sums of money for a miraculous healing, suddenly converted to occult possibilities. More often than not, nothing much can be done for them by a genuine adept healer because they are too impure in body and wrongly motivated psychologically to sustain a cure. They desperately wish that wealth or fame could get them anything in a panic.



One important aspect of the necessary shift in our consciousness and our way of life is that we refuse to remain interested or concerned about any influences of government or ordinary society that deliberately lie to us and try to keep us in the dark about what is really going on or how human life really works. When we choose higher awareness, better thinking and truly evolutionary living, we discover that Cosmic Law will not allow us to be endlessly manipulated by false people nor will it allow a life of real Yoga to be bent, diminished or crushed by dark forces of oppressive government or pressures of ignorant society. We discover our faith in a way toward a God-conscious Immortality of High Development.



Those who are always pursuing famous entertainers, wealthy business leaders or politicians as if such materialistic egomaniacs are Very Important People, will never in a million years experience spiritual development or eternal bodily health. I, for one, have no patience whatsoever with the worldly-wise who cannot see that the only important people on Earth or any other planet are the hidden spiritual adepts and immortals. There is no bliss, freedom or immortality possible for those who simply rot themselves to death in the everyday busy and neurotic position of dull normal consciousness. Such willfully blind idiots have no real or intimate connection with the people of genuine evolutionary aspiration. The Great Quest requires tremendous, uncompromising integrity and anonymity. This is especially true today as the masses and their twisted, phony leaders sink increasingly into hells of their own making.



©2005 Kevalin Absoluto
The Roman

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"Some of the owners of earth.. or the group on power (those that control terrosist and put liders and presidents (inclusing USA and UK )are inmortals ..."

No Feru...those are just immoRals.
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OP,

Do they carry *massive* swords in their over-coats?


OT - Where do Immortals carry their swords if they don't own over-coats (or if they don't have one with them)?
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Syrec, this is their history and future should you care to know.




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Syrec  (OP)

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mysticalamber, vampire stories in history have come from both mortal and immortal. I suspect the immortals broke down mentalty and became obsessed with slaying the innocent. Blood may have also proved benefitial in some way. Either way, vampieres were a common part of old superstition. In some areas they still do perform various rituals on dead bodies, believing they will come back to life. In dark times of plague people came up with many stories to explain the horror in their lives. It's funny though, because logic has it that more immortals would have transformed during plague times due to the pure stress on their body, rampant sickness, and emotional pain of those times.

Pure will can't start a transformation. You are either born of it, or it happens through an extreme situation. From all relevant data, I believe Dracula (known as many names) to have transformed, but possibly not into immortality. His ability for war, revenge, and blood thirst (not neccessarily meaning blood drinking) were extraordinary. The myths and vampire subculture, especially modern, were exagerated.


Most transformations are through mental or physical pain. Ones of pure "englightenment" and realization are extremely rare. I mean to say, all immortality is extremely rare, but that is especially rare.


As for birth immortality, I have not heard of such a thing for a very very long time. I'm not sure this even possible anymore.
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in coppola/s dracula it sounds like one of the addicts calls him zoroaster
Syrec  (OP)

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"OP,

Do they carry *massive* swords in their over-coats?"



Swordplay would was a much favoured art of many immortals. Someone with so many years under their belt with sword fighting would have seemed invincible in such war. Guns and bombs are not the same way, thus the aspect of immortals in war has become less and less. Anyone with a gun pointed at an immortal can pull the trigger with no years under their belt, and skill with guns is limited by situation and opportunity. The main difference in a bullet to a mortal or immortal is the immortal would have a MUCH higher chance of healing fully.
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Hi Syrec!

If I may ask again (in case it was missed!) How do you come by this information? Knowledge of the source of information is helpful in determining it’s validity.

I would think, given the nature of these times, that many of those that would fit this category (immortal) would stand to be exposed, if only on a small level, say to those around them. (Or rather, that is a future possibility, as things become more violent and illness ravages the land.)

Would they be taking precautions then?
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The "immortals" BTW live in a "hell" worse than most mortals here. What is worse, to live in repeated existences here thinking that "one day" life will be better, or to live "out there" in immortal "perfection", berieved and thinking that that existence will never end?

For many of them, being immortal has been by far a worse "hell" than anything immaginable here.

That is the reason so many of them will "go home" when the offer is made.

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I can certainly see that you would have to stay busy! (I can also see that the years would weigh on ones soul…)
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Someone a long time ago said: as long as one of the Avatar will live on Earth there will be no destruction of humanity, when the last one will leave is a sign that the end of this cycle is decided.
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Are the immortals immensely strong?
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<<<Are the immortals immensely strong?>>>


They are all HUGE in all respects but one, the size of their hearts.
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Immortals are no more prone to be heartless than any other. An immortal might not to jump into a situation that puts them in extreme risk, but then doing so is one act of foolish mortality. They have to look at their lives with more permanence. It's true that all might die in time, but we expire.. they do not.
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<<<Immortals are no more prone to be heartless than any other.>>>

The subset of immortals which you are discussing virtually have no hearts at all compared to the others. Your description of them is rather accurate though.
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There are undoubtedly a varietal of so called immortals.. however, they all have the so called achilles heal ...
unless they have a more Xtlized SOUL ... and that the reptilians DO NOT HAVE.. since they steal souls..

the ones CASTENADA or DON JUAN encountered from the descriptions were the shapeshifting ones.. who could manuver quite well in the astral.. however one of the questions that both BUBBA FREE JOHN AND MUKTANADA fought over was the BLUE PEARL.. THE PEARL.. to transcend the boundaries of SPACE TIME.. and JUST SPACE.. and PLACE.. this is the immortal.. and few there are ...if any here..

ah ho WIO
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In the end, there can only be one.
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"unless they have a more Xtlized SOUL ... and that the reptilians DO NOT HAVE.. since they steal souls.."


Right here I'll have to call you out on not knowing too much about this. Immortals do not come from, nor are they universally involved in your planet X conspiracy theories.


As for the achilles heal, I can only answer to this if I know exactly what you mean. In myth achilles was unkillable unless through his heal, but the more realistic version that the myth was based on was probably that achilles was simply a -very- skilled fighter by nature, and somewhere along the line his heal took damage. That would not have been what killed him unless it cut an artery or an arrow/blade was poisoned, which are possibilities. Achilles could have been immortal, it would make sense of the great fighting ability and being claimed friend/son of gods, but there isn't much documented (myth) information to say that he was.

Immortals just same, most don't need an achilles heal to die.. unless you refer to common human weakness, a specific weakness.. such as forgetting to back guard whebn struck from the side. This would be lack of practice & skill.
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"Re: Immortals walk amongst us."

And idiots post here.
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A hell of a thread. One of the best...
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Yup
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They heal themselves with thought forms. They still die. But reincarnate. The whole remains awake and keeps an eye out for brothers they know and awaken them in each generation while keeping control from others.

A hidden realm of magical beings.

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not immortal but very old. Health is voltage , age related to voltage. Alchemists knew. They have an handshake or something. leave them alone
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This may well be true, IdiotSavant#1. But actual, physical flesh and blood immortals exist too.
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This may well be true, IdiotSavant#1. But actual, physical flesh and blood immortals exist too.
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Could be. I know not of this right now though.
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but they can die a physical death. Some may be superior in healing and immune system. Generally the older they are the better their healing is because they have had nothing but time to adapt to disease.

This does not apply to the secluded. The secluded may be weaker, driven to seclusion either to wait out for different times, or sickness of life without the will to end it.

Both active and secluded are strong in the mind. They know mental dicipline. Many immortal have died, just not of old age. The longer an immortal, lives the larger the probability for survival becomes.

Some immortals view human society and life like a game of chess. They are the watchers, they move the pieces from the outside. Others have taken up the sword, involving themselves, they feel as though they are gods.

Capturing an immortal, finding a dead immortal, these are not possible today. No proof can be given. A dead immortal's brain cannot be tested for the wealth of knowledge and pure skill for all things. Their blood may prove to be strong with many antibodies and an incredible immune system that an athlete may have, but this would no be a remarkable, stunning, or unique find. Even with no identity, an immortal would just be another John Doe in the books. This is why there is no "proof" of immortals since times when people were open to believe such things.

The sensative can sometimes notice an immortal. I do not know the answer to this, I do not know why. But to the sensative, they may take notice to the one out of a croud. Is it behavior communication, the way they move.. or perhaps mental development over time. I believe it to be body language.

Immortals do not have super powers and mind control abilities. Many are remarkable. Time has given them the chance to hone their reaction times and not only learn.. but perfect techniques in various skills. Physically there is a different between knowing your body for 30 years and knowing it for 300. With more time you may move different, react faster, know the very best way to react to many situations. The mental dicipline only enhances their abilities, and together their physical and mental turn into heavily increased survival. Some could be viewed as gods, being mystical, or having powers simply because of their perfected movement and thinking.


Now you know more about the immortals.
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There can be only one