If Jesus Is God or Co-Equal to God Then Why...

No... maybe this can help?

" the Father almighty,
Creator of heaven and earth,
and in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord,
who was conceived by the Holy Spirit,
born of the Virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died and was buried;
he descended into hell;
on the third day he rose again from the dead;
"

extremely weak argument. there were plenty of mythos penned. they were written by real people, yes. but it doesn't make it the word of God.

i will not argue with you.
i have my beliefs and you have yours.

I don't believe my post was saying otherwise, but

Thanks at least you admit the Bhagavad Gita is infallible and the one true word of God and every other religous Holy Book including the Bible is the the one true word of God too


I recommend Thread: Bible Scholar Bart Ehrman Debates

You have a filthy mouth so no doubt your heart is filthy

Jesus didnt rebuke Thomas but affirmed and condoned that Thomas believed that He was his Lord and God

Joh 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed

Again, where is the blessing?? WTF

Sinaiticus and Vaticanus were not found until after the KJV was already written, so they are older and more original. They are considred to show just how much a bible can change over time.

The Masocretic texts that the modern bible is based on are obviously historically inferior to Sinaticus and Vatinicus which are far older.


5 modern interpretations of scripture that are supposed to be able to objectively be proven false- by most bible scholars.

1. The story of the woman who was to be stoned

2. modern understanding of the meaning of the trinity

3. Nazareth, Jesus the Nazarene refers to the Essenes not Nazareth

4. Mary Magdalene being a prostitute and not head disciple of Jesus

5. The original texts did not contain the resurrection

Maybe you dont know english very well, giving someone there blessing simply means the gave or show approval which is what I believe Jesus did with His reply, sorry for any confusion

First of all, Jesus DID NOT die on a cross, the cross was around long before Christ arrived, and is a representation of a Phallic symbol, something Christ would have never venerated. I laugh at all these people walking around with a Phallus around their necks, some even kissing it, some bowing before it, and- you answered your own quesion, these "false teachers" also teach that Jesus and God are the same within the "Trinity" also a teaching common among pagans before Christ. If you read the entire book of John, this is REALLY easy to see. If the "Trinity" was true, don't you think the word "Trinity" would be somewhere in the Bible?

Google "Origins of the Cross" and enjoy all the information available on the Phallic Symbol in ancient India,and elsewhere, and also it's ties to the Trinity belief. It is all out there, you just need to read and have an open mind.

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The answer is simple why Jesus knew not the day or the hour. The answer is that when Jesus came to this earth he divested himself of thoses quality that he had in heaven. He came to earth in our sinful nature. All the miracles he did was done by him praying to the Father and the Father giving him the holy spirit to do them.

Are your comprehension skills so poor as this?

John 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

Jesus says "THE DOCTRINE" isn't his! Either you are wrong or Jesus is lying.

You Choose!

LoL Look at your comprehension skills LoL He says "MY Doctrine" which is obvious He is saying it's not only His or else that sentence wouldn't make any sense LoL

There is no God.


That was an easy one.

Jesus is God(John 1:1,14; 1Timothy 3:16). He thought it not robbery to be equal with God(Philippians 2:6).
Another name for God is...I AM(Exodus 3:14). Jesus said, before Abraham was...I AM(John 8:58). Then they picked up stones to stone Him for blasphemy but He hid Himself.
Being God, Jesus CHOSE not to know the day or hour.
Jesus took on sin in His perfect BODY.
He that knew no sin became sin that we might become the righteousness of God(2Cor. 5:21). That's a GREAT exchange if you call upon His name(Acts 2:21; Romans 10:9,10,13) and ask and receive Him into your heart by faith(John 1:12).

"Son of God" does not mean "God" doesn´t it.

The name of God is "I AM WHO I AM", not just "I AM".

Before Abraham does not mean before Adam or does it?

WOW! Trying to explain the obvious to you is like pulling teeth.

Either you are wrong or Jesus is lying.



Enough of this sillyness.

Like I said before be careful you are still in yours sins unless you believe

Joh 8:19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.
Joh 8:20 These words spake Jesus in the treasury, as he taught in the temple: and no man laid hands on him; for his hour was not yet come.
Joh 8:21 Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come.
Joh 8:22 Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come.
Joh 8:23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
Joh 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am (he), ye shall die in your sins.

You are applauding someone who doesn't respect another religion and is ridiculing Christianity. Were you not earlier saying that we should accept ALL religions?

Turn to islam now? Wow theres no mention of the virgin birth, His crucifixion, resurrection or anything. you are pathetically desperate

Did you intentionally leave out what comes next? I see who you are now!

John 8:25-29

25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.

26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.

27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.

28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me , I speak these things.

Who taught Jesus (the son)? GOD (the father). Under your belief Jesus has to be lying here. Jesus has to have taught himself. Why do you choose to make Jesus a liar?

29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.

Under your beliefs Jesus always does things that please Jesus - He states it here. Once again you undermine Jesus' reverence for his father GOD.

You probably haven't comprehended it yet, but you should realise that I am not actually addressing you, with my quotes of scripture, as you have lost the ability to assess.

My quotations have been for others who will read them with an open heart & mind.

Thankyou for enabling me to speak to them through your ignorance.

Proof that "the word" has been corrupted by indoctrinated man made dogma.

CHrist did die. He was eaten by a bunch of jewish cannibals and they shitted him out and probably ate him again. But then there God was. Exactly as if nothing happened. Haha then they shitted again and probably yelled oh shit.

No. thank you for posting the rest of those scriptures. they help put my point across and only shows you cannot understand the nature of God with your carnal mind

You are still avoiding why Jesus didn't correct Thomas but to the contrary said those that will believe like he does will be blessed. You have no answer so you avoid it

the bagvadgita is not infallible. it is an actual document, however. so is tv guide.

NO I wasn't suggesting turning to Islam now... The guy was a Christian discussing what a Christian book says...

It doesn't make the book correct.

It was what some Christians taught and it has insights from Jesus brother and early Christians.

You have become a waste of my time.

sorry you feel that way but I will stand up for what is right.
You posting this video are ready to throw out the virgin birth, resurrection, the crucifixion all so you can prove Jesus wasn't God. Now thats a real waste of time