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If someone were to ask you for an example of a “totalitarian society”, how would you respond? Most Americans would probably think of horribly repressive regimes such as the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, Communist China, East Germany or North Korea, but the truth is that there is one society that has far more rules and regulations than any of those societies ever dreamed of having. In the United States today, our lives are governed by literally millions of laws, rules and regulations that govern even the smallest details of our lives, and more laws, rules and regulations are constantly being added.

On January 1st, thousands of restrictive new laws went into effect all over America, but most Americans have become so accustomed to the matrix of control that has been constructed all around them that it does not even bother them when even more rules and regulations are put into place. In fact, a growing number of Americans have become totally convinced that “freedom” and “liberty” must be tightly restricted for the good of society and that “the free market” is inherently dangerous.

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"The Obsolete Man" is an episode of the television series The Twilight Zone. It deals with themes of Orwellian totalitarianism, euthanasia, utilitarianism, collectivism and religion.

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A camera is installed in Wordsworth's study to broadcast his final hours and execution live to the nation. He summons the Chancellor, who arrives at exactly 11:16 p.m. After some discussion, Wordsworth reveals to the Chancellor that his chosen method of execution is by an explosive set to go off in his room at midnight. He explains that the reaction to imminent execution that will interest the public is not his own but the Chancellor's, as the door is locked and no one is outside to help the Chancellor escape.

He intends to show the nation how a spiritual man faces death, and proceeds to read from his illegal, long-hidden copy of the Bible. He also points out that, as the events are being broadcast live, the State would risk losing its status in the eyes of the people by trying to rescue the Chancellor. As the time draws to a close, Wordsworth's calm acceptance of death stands in sharp contrast with the Chancellor's increasing panic.

Moments before the bomb explodes, the Chancellor desperately begs to be let go "in the name of God". Wordsworth says that "in the name of God" he will release the Chancellor immediately, which he does. The Chancellor bursts out of the room and down the stairs just as the bomb explodes and kills Wordsworth.

In the final scene, he returns to the courtroom to discover that a new Chancellor has replaced him and that he himself is now obsolete: "You have disgraced the State. You have proven yourself a coward....
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BIG BROTHER’S LISTENING
Government officials installing audio surveillance systems on public buses


The era of private conversations on city buses — and even on San Francisco’s iconic streetcars — may be coming to an end.

Government officials are quietly installing sophisticated audio surveillance systems on public buses across the country to eavesdrop on passengers, according to documents obtained by The Daily. Plans to implement the technology are under way in cities from San Francisco to Hartford, Conn., and Eugene, Ore., to Columbus, Ohio


[link to www.thedaily.com]


Is the U.S. Constitution obsolete??


Conservatives worry that the U. S. Constitution is being ignored. The next step is for the Constitution to be spoken against and then repudiated. That seems to be happening, even by a Supreme Court Justice! In the meantime, the rest of the world has stopped imitating America’s constitutional system, which, in many people’s minds does not parcel out enough rights, and the rights it does recognize are the wrong ones:

In a television interview during a visit to Egypt last week, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg of the Supreme Court seemed to agree [with the irrelevance of the Constitution to new nations today]. “I would not look to the United States Constitution if I were drafting a constitution in the year 2012,” she said. She recommended, instead, the South African Constitution, the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms or the European Convention on Human Rights.

[link to www.geneveith.com]
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BIG BROTHER’S LISTENING
Government officials installing audio surveillance systems on public buses


The era of private conversations on city buses — and even on San Francisco’s iconic streetcars — may be coming to an end.

Government officials are quietly installing sophisticated audio surveillance systems on public buses across the country to eavesdrop on passengers, according to documents obtained by The Daily. Plans to implement the technology are under way in cities from San Francisco to Hartford, Conn., and Eugene, Ore., to Columbus, Ohio


[link to www.thedaily.com]


Is the U.S. Constitution obsolete??


Conservatives worry that the U. S. Constitution is being ignored. The next step is for the Constitution to be spoken against and then repudiated. That seems to be happening, even by a Supreme Court Justice! In the meantime, the rest of the world has stopped imitating America’s constitutional system, which, in many people’s minds does not parcel out enough rights, and the rights it does recognize are the wrong ones:

In a television interview during a visit to Egypt last week, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg of the Supreme Court seemed to agree [with the irrelevance of the Constitution to new nations today]. “I would not look to the United States Constitution if I were drafting a constitution in the year 2012,” she said. She recommended, instead, the South African Constitution, the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms or the European Convention on Human Rights.

[link to www.geneveith.com]
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The Obsolete Man / Part 01 of 02


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Edmund Burke said, It is one of the finest problems in legislation, what the state ought to take upon itself to direct and what it ought to leave, with as little interference as possible, to individual discretion.

-And -

The greater the power, the more dangerous the abuse.

Meaning, what entitlements government bestows with one hand, it inevitably takes freedoms with the other.

This episode of The Twilight Zone illustrates both the past and potential future of Totalitarianism. Edited for time. I own nothing.

Excerpted from The Twilight Zone: The Obsolete Man / 1961

Written by Rod Serling. Directed by Elliot Silverstein. With Burgess Meredith, Fritz Weaver, Josip Elic.
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Don't blame the puppet in the white house, blame the system he came up in.

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Better starting some Qu'ran session at your bible studies. If we can't change it we might as well accept it

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Better starting some Qu'ran session at your bible studies. If we can't change it we might as well accept it

peace
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Wisdom and the Blessed Hope is the change...
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I said it a year after Obama was first elected that he was executing a playbook one step at a time. Now that he is in his second term I fear we will see an acceleration so fast we won't know what hit us until it's too late - maybe it is already too late...
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I said it a year after Obama was first elected that he was executing a playbook one step at a time. Now that he is in his second term I fear we will see an acceleration so fast we won't know what hit us until it's too late - maybe it is already too late...
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Hes just preparing us for the NWO, the next president is my fear. Especially looking at Hillary is being mentioned, surviving her little head wound.

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Don't blame the puppet in the white house, blame the system he came up in.

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Better starting some Qu'ran session at your bible studies. If we can't change it we might as well accept it

peace
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Wisdom and the Blessed Hope is the change...
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You both need to wake the fuck up.
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Every democracy in history has degraded to such a society. The first symptom is government handouts, as that leads to a needy people, and a government that provides their every need.

All roads lead to Rome, as all one has to do is study its history and see that what went on there, is happening in the corporation we call the United States.
They remove you from your rural base that allowed you to grow and sell your own products (independence) and sell them in the marketplace.
They then provide you with products (i.e. bread, oils, salts, etc.), then you forget how to produce your own (dependent).
They provide you with entertainment (to distract you from the tyranny they're exacting on you).
In the meantime, they get wealthy and powerful, while you become a 'worker bee' for their constituent companies, or stay home and collect their handouts.

God wants us to know history, so that we are not victims of its repetition (yes, Satan is a like a broken record, he does the same things everytime).

Ecclesiastes 3:15 That which is has been already and that which will be has already been, for God seeks what has passed by.
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I don't see how you can view it any other way...
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."

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Every democracy in history has degraded to such a society. The first symptom is government handouts, as that leads to a needy people, and a government that provides their every need.

All roads lead to Rome, as all one has to do is study its history and see that what went on there, is happening in the corporation we call the United States.
They remove you from your rural base that allowed you to grow and sell your own products (independence) and sell them in the marketplace.
They then provide you with products (i.e. bread, oils, salts, etc.), then you forget how to produce your own (dependent).
They provide you with entertainment (to distract you from the tyranny they're exacting on you).
In the meantime, they get wealthy and powerful, while you become a 'worker bee' for their constituent companies, or stay home and collect their handouts.

God wants us to know history, so that we are not victims of its repetition (yes, Satan is a like a broken record, he does the same things everytime).

Ecclesiastes 3:15 That which is has been already and that which will be has already been, for God seeks what has passed by.
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All roads lead to Rome,- Yes it does History has and is repeating itself...


People have not learned what has destroyed societies before them...

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I said it a year after Obama was first elected that he was executing a playbook one step at a time. Now that he is in his second term I fear we will see an acceleration so fast we won't know what hit us until it's too late - maybe it is already too late...
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Hes just preparing us for the NWO, the next president is my fear. Especially looking at Hillary is being mentioned, surviving her little head wound.
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It has been her life-long dream. Waco and Ruby Ridge were only the start for her.
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the problem is the people drawn to the government are always looking to expand its power for their own ends and since all governments can do is tax and destroy we see everything systematically degrading wherever government control is tightest

people suffered under slavery and oppression for a long time but the problem now is slavery can be comfortable enough that no one cares, even so the US government is on a slippery slope and knows that internal dissent threatens its hegemony

in the short term its best to leave the country because any sort of open rebellion will not be popular and you will most likely spend the rest of your life in jail or die an early violent death

boring
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Good luck cruise
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Bullhorn right again!
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i wonder if it is too late, i see no signs of anyone wanting to reverse course even while a vast majority of us see this country going in the wrong direction they vote to keep going.

i think the last election was more earth shattering for americans than we know. it was not an election between two men with different vision, it was in fact THE fundamental change in the psyche of the american people.

the only ones who have benefitted from obama's presidency are the fleas and lice who have found a good home thanks to that dog.
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i wonder if it is too late, i see no signs of anyone wanting to reverse course even while a vast majority of us see this country going in the wrong direction they vote to keep going.

i think the last election was more earth shattering for americans than we know. it was not an election between two men with different vision, it was in fact THE fundamental change in the psyche of the american people.

the only ones who have benefitted from obama's presidency are the fleas and lice who have found a good home thanks to that dog.
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That is a great way to put it!

May GOD have mercy!
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I said it a year after Obama was first elected that he was executing a playbook one step at a time. Now that he is in his second term I fear we will see an acceleration so fast we won't know what hit us until it's too late - maybe it is already too late...
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Hes just preparing us for the NWO, the next president is my fear. Especially looking at Hillary is being mentioned, surviving her little head wound.
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It has been her life-long dream. Waco and Ruby Ridge were only the start for her.
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did you know that:

"The former general counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee, who supervised Hillary during the Watergate investigation, says her history of lies and unethical behavior goes back farther – and goes much deeper – than anyone realizes.

Hillary Clinton has been taking a lot of heat lately over the Bosnia sniper misfire, for which she has been derided and ridiculed by all but the most staunch of her supporters. It has even inspired the above YouTube video, which recently surpassed 1,500,000 views.

Now comes this bombshell from Jerry Zeifman, who supervised a much younger Hillary Clinton when she worked as a staffer for the Watergate committee:

'A lifelong Democrat, Mr. Zeifman supervised the work of 27-year-old Hillary Rodham on the committee. Hillary got a job working on the investigation at the behest of her former law professor, Burke Marshall, who was also Sen. Ted Kennedy’s chief counsel in the Chappaquiddick affair. When the investigation was over, Zeifman fired Hillary from the committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation – one of only three people who earned that dubious distinction in Zeifman’s 17-year career.'

Why?

"Because she was a liar," Zeifman said in an interview last week. “She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality.'

Read more: [link to www.digitaljournal.com]
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i wonder if it is too late, i see no signs of anyone wanting to reverse course even while a vast majority of us see this country going in the wrong direction they vote to keep going.

i think the last election was more earth shattering for americans than we know. it was not an election between two men with different vision, it was in fact THE fundamental change in the psyche of the american people.

the only ones who have benefitted from obama's presidency are the fleas and lice who have found a good home thanks to that dog.
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That is a great way to put it!

May GOD have mercy!
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hi susie,

i doubt if god will have mercy, we have turned our backs on Him and are reaping what we have sown.

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Dear God,

Why do you allow so much violence in our schools?

Signed, a concerned student.

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Dear Concerned Student,

I am not allowed in your schools.

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This has been then plan and we have been in that process for a long time now. Communist infiltrated the US after WWII to take us down from within. We only managed to outspend and collapse the Soviet Union because our capitolism was hugely successful and their communism was an economic disaster. That didn't stop their ideology though. They were able to plant the seed of communism thoughout our education system which has taught communist ideology for two whole generations now.

Joe McCarthy was right! Evidence? Look no further than the Marxist in the whitehouse and his staff of socialist. At least one of his advisors (Van Jones) is a self proclaimed proud communist.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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I said it a year after Obama was first elected that he was executing a playbook one step at a time. Now that he is in his second term I fear we will see an acceleration so fast we won't know what hit us until it's too late - maybe it is already too late...
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Hes just preparing us for the NWO, the next president is my fear. Especially looking at Hillary is being mentioned, surviving her little head wound.
 Quoting: Ballin on Your Tax Dollars




It has been her life-long dream. Waco and Ruby Ridge were only the start for her.
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did you know that:

"The former general counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee, who supervised Hillary during the Watergate investigation, says her history of lies and unethical behavior goes back farther – and goes much deeper – than anyone realizes.

Hillary Clinton has been taking a lot of heat lately over the Bosnia sniper misfire, for which she has been derided and ridiculed by all but the most staunch of her supporters. It has even inspired the above YouTube video, which recently surpassed 1,500,000 views.

Now comes this bombshell from Jerry Zeifman, who supervised a much younger Hillary Clinton when she worked as a staffer for the Watergate committee:

'A lifelong Democrat, Mr. Zeifman supervised the work of 27-year-old Hillary Rodham on the committee. Hillary got a job working on the investigation at the behest of her former law professor, Burke Marshall, who was also Sen. Ted Kennedy’s chief counsel in the Chappaquiddick affair. When the investigation was over, Zeifman fired Hillary from the committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation – one of only three people who earned that dubious distinction in Zeifman’s 17-year career.'

Why?

"Because she was a liar," Zeifman said in an interview last week. “She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality.'

Read more: [link to www.digitaljournal.com]
 Quoting: davvi



Amen to that davvi!


The World is now reaping what is has sown....

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If someone were to ask you for an example of a “totalitarian society”, how would you respond? Most Americans would probably think of horribly repressive regimes such as the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, Communist China, East Germany or North Korea, but the truth is that there is one society that has far more rules and regulations than any of those societies ever dreamed of having. In the United States today, our lives are governed by literally millions of laws, rules and regulations that govern even the smallest details of our lives, and more laws, rules and regulations are constantly being added.

On January 1st, thousands of restrictive new laws went into effect all over America, but most Americans have become so accustomed to the matrix of control that has been constructed all around them that it does not even bother them when even more rules and regulations are put into place. In fact, a growing number of Americans have become totally convinced that “freedom” and “liberty” must be tightly restricted for the good of society and that “the free market” is inherently dangerous.

[link to endoftheamericandream.com]
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You're absolutely correct, Susie. It's the central issue from which all other issues arise from.
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This has been then plan and we have been in that process for a long time now. Communist infiltrated the US after WWII to take us down from within. We only managed to outspend and collapse the Soviet Union because our capitolism was hugely successful and their communism was an economic disaster. That didn't stop their ideology though. They were able to plant the seed of communism thoughout our education system which has taught communist ideology for two whole generations now.

Joe McCarthy was right! Evidence? Look no further than the Marxist in the whitehouse and his staff of socialist. At least one of his advisors (Van Jones) is a self proclaimed proud communist.
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McCarthy was right and KGB papers prove it.

your post is excellent. thumbs
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Search Presott Bush failed fascist coup 1933.
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Every democracy in history has degraded to such a society. The first symptom is government handouts, as that leads to a needy people, and a government that provides their every need.

All roads lead to Rome, as all one has to do is study its history and see that what went on there, is happening in the corporation we call the United States.
They remove you from your rural base that allowed you to grow and sell your own products (independence) and sell them in the marketplace.
They then provide you with products (i.e. bread, oils, salts, etc.), then you forget how to produce your own (dependent).
They provide you with entertainment (to distract you from the tyranny they're exacting on you).
In the meantime, they get wealthy and powerful, while you become a 'worker bee' for their constituent companies, or stay home and collect their handouts.

God wants us to know history, so that we are not victims of its repetition (yes, Satan is a like a broken record, he does the same things everytime).

Ecclesiastes 3:15 That which is has been already and that which will be has already been, for God seeks what has passed by.
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All roads lead to Rome,- Yes it does History has and is repeating itself...


People have not learned what has destroyed societies before them...

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I agree with the OP, totally.

But are you saying that Rome was better off as a Republic even before becoming an Empire?wtf

Or are you saying they were better off as a Monarchy even before the Republic???????

The Republic was doomed to die anyways...............with Caesar being killed or not. In fact, some would say Brutus and his cohorts killed the one person who could have saved the Republic, for better or for worse.
EvCato, as afr as it is known, would have opposed the assasination.

The Roman world had simply grown to vast by the time of caesar for it to be governed by a group of senators from Rome.

Now.......did bureaucracy and opulence and decadence take over and ruined the Empire?
Absolutely. Did it grow too big? Absolutely. (Witness the fact that it got divided into TWO empires by Diocletian).

Did Paganism die out and allow Christianity to take over and further hasten the demise of the Empire? Probably so.

But I do not feel that (if that is what you are implying) that Rome fell because it transferred from a Republic to an Empire.

Even Gibbon called the Era of The Five Good Emperors (to paraphrase------the era "where the human condition was happiest."

Other factors may have contributed, but not reallytotally this one.

Just saying............................hiding
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Every democracy in history has degraded to such a society. The first symptom is government handouts, as that leads to a needy people, and a government that provides their every need.

All roads lead to Rome, as all one has to do is study its history and see that what went on there, is happening in the corporation we call the United States.
They remove you from your rural base that allowed you to grow and sell your own products (independence) and sell them in the marketplace.
They then provide you with products (i.e. bread, oils, salts, etc.), then you forget how to produce your own (dependent).
They provide you with entertainment (to distract you from the tyranny they're exacting on you).
In the meantime, they get wealthy and powerful, while you become a 'worker bee' for their constituent companies, or stay home and collect their handouts.

God wants us to know history, so that we are not victims of its repetition (yes, Satan is a like a broken record, he does the same things everytime).

Ecclesiastes 3:15 That which is has been already and that which will be has already been, for God seeks what has passed by.
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The Bible is essentially a political document, if people would just see it as such.
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Re: America Is Being Systematically Transformed Into A Totalitarian Society...
Every democracy in history has degraded to such a society. The first symptom is government handouts, as that leads to a needy people, and a government that provides their every need.

All roads lead to Rome, as all one has to do is study its history and see that what went on there, is happening in the corporation we call the United States.
They remove you from your rural base that allowed you to grow and sell your own products (independence) and sell them in the marketplace.
They then provide you with products (i.e. bread, oils, salts, etc.), then you forget how to produce your own (dependent).
They provide you with entertainment (to distract you from the tyranny they're exacting on you).
In the meantime, they get wealthy and powerful, while you become a 'worker bee' for their constituent companies, or stay home and collect their handouts.

God wants us to know history, so that we are not victims of its repetition (yes, Satan is a like a broken record, he does the same things everytime).

Ecclesiastes 3:15 That which is has been already and that which will be has already been, for God seeks what has passed by.
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All roads lead to Rome,- Yes it does History has and is repeating itself...


People have not learned what has destroyed societies before them...

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I agree with the OP, totally.

But are you saying that Rome was better off as a Republic even before becoming an Empire?wtf

Or are you saying they were better off as a Monarchy even before the Republic???????

The Republic was doomed to die anyways...............with Caesar being killed or not. In fact, some would say Brutus and his cohorts killed the one person who could have saved the Republic, for better or for worse.
EvCato, as afr as it is known, would have opposed the assasination.

The Roman world had simply grown to vast by the time of caesar for it to be governed by a group of senators from Rome.

Now.......did bureaucracy and opulence and decadence take over and ruined the Empire?
Absolutely. Did it grow too big? Absolutely. (Witness the fact that it got divided into TWO empires by Diocletian).

Did Paganism die out and allow Christianity to take over and further hasten the demise of the Empire? Probably so.

But I do not feel that (if that is what you are implying) that Rome fell because it transferred from a Republic to an Empire.

Even Gibbon called the Era of The Five Good Emperors (to paraphrase------the era "where the human condition was happiest."

Other factors may have contributed, but not reallytotally this one.

Just saying............................hiding
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I believe GOD from the Get-Go was trying to get the people of the world to run there nations, there lives and the earth from the way he intended....

Most people rejected it, they wanted to be free to worship all kinds of false and pagan GOD's enslave people, live with greed, gluttony immorality, murder etc, and when they embraced these ideals Nations and Mankind eventually fell....

It was the People of ROME that finally Spoke UP! and said they did not want to live the way the Roman Empire had created, this caused war, strife and uproar and eventually the Roman Empire collapsed...

The USA is forgetting about it's history, the people are loosing there way....They are looking to the *STATE* instead of GOD, so in essence they have created a False GOD looking to MAN for it's Joy and Freedom...

This is how Nations fall and how dictators are created like Hitler was....
Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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Re: America Is Being Systematically Transformed Into A Totalitarian Society...
Every democracy in history has degraded to such a society. The first symptom is government handouts, as that leads to a needy people, and a government that provides their every need.

All roads lead to Rome, as all one has to do is study its history and see that what went on there, is happening in the corporation we call the United States.
They remove you from your rural base that allowed you to grow and sell your own products (independence) and sell them in the marketplace.
They then provide you with products (i.e. bread, oils, salts, etc.), then you forget how to produce your own (dependent).
They provide you with entertainment (to distract you from the tyranny they're exacting on you).
In the meantime, they get wealthy and powerful, while you become a 'worker bee' for their constituent companies, or stay home and collect their handouts.

God wants us to know history, so that we are not victims of its repetition (yes, Satan is a like a broken record, he does the same things everytime).

Ecclesiastes 3:15 That which is has been already and that which will be has already been, for God seeks what has passed by.
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Bingo. Generally the most direct thing a person might do then is to move to a more rural self-regulated area if they are not there already, reduce costs through self sufficiency and frugality, and to deal directly in terms of income.

Theologically from a christian view point it might be stated that God's most basic motive is to permit freedom of choice within duality and generally not interfere, and the most basic motive of Satan is that of control. (Original Sin - to desire to force people to worship God.)

These concepts not only relate to Libertarian type thought in relation to government styles, but the issue of force also provides a reference in the most basic interpretation of right and wrong in one's moral compass.





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