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The Government knows what is best for you- if you think otherwise you are delusional

 
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The Government knows what is best for you- if you think otherwise you are delusional
David Frum explains why he thinks marijuana should be unavailable even to people who can use it responsibly:


[link to reason.com]

The goal of public policy should be to protect (to the extent we can) the vulnerable from making life-wrecking mistakes in the first place.

There's a trade-off, yes, and it takes the form of denying less vulnerable people easy access to a pleasure they believe they can safely use. But they are likely deluding themselves about how well they are managing their drug use. And even if they are not deluded -- if they really are so capable and effective -- then surely they can see that society has already been massively re-engineered for their benefit already. Surely, enough is enough?


[link to www.cnn.com]

Brought to you by Smart Approaches to Marijuana. The group is headed by (former alcoholic/prescription drug addict who thinks everyone else needs to be saved from what he indulged in so freely) U.S. Rep. Patrick Kennedy and includes Kevin Sabet, a "veteran" of the Office of National Drug Control Policy under President Obama

The President Obama who has medical marijuana patients dying in jail.

This group wants big pharma to be the only ones to profit from cannabis and its analogs.
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U R!!!!
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Well, by the logic of "public good trumps all" they could wipe out this reefer madness overnight by blood testing everyone

[link to usnews.nbcnews.com]

It comes down, basically, to are you going to see blood draws every single time someone gets pulled over for a DUI," said Michael A. Correll, a litigator with the international law firm Alston & Bird, who examined the legality of blood draws in the West Virginia Law Review last year.


And nicotine, cholesterol...
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I want to juice it for health, grow seed for protein, extract oils for health and cancer treatment.

They want it illegal because they make millions in fines, imprisonment, and confiscations.

WHO'S THE REAL FUCKING CRIMINAL?
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This website content was provided by an Ouju board and the spirit of Harry Jacob Anslinger

[link to learnaboutsam.com]

Marijuana is now the number one reason kids enter treatment—more than alcohol, cocaine, heroin, meth, ecstasy, and other drugs combined. How did this come to be? The most likely culprit is the increased potency of marijuana.

No, its not


[link to www.tokeofthetown.com]
As Armentano points out, there aren't "one million people seeking treatment for marijuana dependence"; it isn't even close. The real number, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), the actual number of persons seeking drug treatment for marijuana "as a primary substance for admission in 2007 (the most recent year with available data) was 287,933. That's a lot less than "a million."

But there's more. If there really are 288,000 folks are year who need help quitting marijuana, then maybe there's reason for concern, right? Wrong answer, Believer Of Bureaucrats. Almost all of these "people seeking treatment" are FORCED to do so by court orders, under threat of jail, after having been busted for possessing small amounts of pot.



The odd thing is, a lot of this frightening web site reads like they want a return to alcohol prohibition:

[link to learnaboutsam.com]


A fact most people do not know is that alcohol, not cocaine, heroin, or marijuana, is responsible for 2.6 million arrests every year. That is one million more arrests than for all illegal drugs combined. The reason? Alcohol is used so much more commonly than illegal drugs. People are being arrested for violating liquor laws, driving while intoxicated, and public drunkenness (the 2.6 million number doesn’t even include violent crimes that result from alcohol use). If marijuana were legal, and more people used it, we’d have more people driving high, growing marijuana in their own home, using underage, and violating all sorts of new regulations.

(Why not let people grow in their own homes then?)

Driving high? Science:

[link to www.prweb.com]

In a recent study, 4AutoinsuranceQuote.org, a national quote provider for online car insurance quotes, cites a strong correlation between traffic-related accidents and marijuana use. The study, which looks at statistics regarding accidents, traffic violations, and insurance prices, seeks to dispel the thought that “driving while stoned” is dangerous.

In the study, 4AutoInsuranceQuote.org points out that the only significant effect that marijuana has on operating a motor vehicle is slower driving
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[link to washingtonindependent.com]

A study released last week by the University of Colorado Denver indicates that the legalization of medical marijuana reduces alcohol consumption and, as a result, alcohol-related traffic deaths without a corresponding increase in deaths caused by stoned drivers.

Are they just going to make stuff up about the demon weed, then push it in a controlled form as profitable medicine? Stay tuned.

What is the real purpose of this new Reefer Madness campaign
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What will the policies of SAM achieve?

1.Keep cannabis illegal, and thereby keeping the price up.

2.Trap users in the rehab industry, making rehab big bucks.

3.Prohibit American home production, keeping drug profits where they will be illegal, untaxed and used for supplying guns to terrorists who then run around killing various people.

uh...who wants that and why?
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I've noticed the government knows whats best for the government but they'll try to do what's best for you as long as it's also and primarily best for them. The machine eats first at the trough the plebs eat second. It's always that way IMO.
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Anybody who gives into that logic deserves what they get.
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Toast should not be available. Some people do not use it responsibly.


Shocking video documentation of toast being used for violent acts of aggression in a crowded movie theater:

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And where,exactly, are they going to get the money to force all marijuana users into a year long treatment program.

40% of the US population at Marijuana re-education camps?


Goofy for God will be the only person left outside!I hope we can find a nice straight edge to feed our cats...



[link to www.change.org]

Former Congressman Patrick Kennedy is the chairman of Smart Approaches to Marijuana (SAM), a new national organization that wants to force marijuana consumers into treatment and subject them to mandatory health screenings and "marijuana education" camps.

Yet he comes from a family that made a fortune selling alcohol – a product that is objectively far more harmful than marijuana!

Sign our petition today calling on Patrick Kennedy to drop out of SAM or explain why he is working to keep a less harmful alternative to alcohol illegal
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Thread: Australian Government says there is no fire danger, and it is not hot.

Government knows all, and it knows best.

Stop questioning Government.
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01/12/2013 02:24 AM
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Toast should not be available. Some people do not use it responsibly.


Shocking video documentation of toast being used for violent acts of aggression in a crowded movie theater:

 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


Or any hard candies.
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01/12/2013 02:30 AM
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Re: The Government knows what is best for you- if you think otherwise you are delusional
It's like the baby killers say

"My body, my choice".

Double standards much?

So, a girl can use herself as a cum dumpster and then kill an innocent unborn baby but I can't use a harmless PLANT that has medical benifits?

Half of all people on prescription drugs could be on this plant instead

Despression
Pain
Anxiety
Alzhiemers
etc.
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Toast should not be available. Some people do not use it responsibly.


Shocking video documentation of toast being used for violent acts of aggression in a crowded movie theater:

 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


Or any hard candies.
 Quoting: Be a good citizen. 31981380


Getting pelted by Jelly beans was quite traumatic for The Beatles.


'Dangerous': Jelly Babies


Written in Harrison's own hand, the 1963 letter that has just come to light is from the period just before The Beatles' fame hit its peak.

'Couldn't you eat them yourself, besides it is dangerous. I was hit in the eye once with a boiled sweet, and it's not funny!'



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