There will not be a War. You may all Relax.

Now, I want to make something clear.

I am using my trust in saying that there will be peace with Iran.

My trust in Humankind, in our progression.

And if we stumble, it does not mean that we have failed.

We just pick ourselves up and keep going.

:)
Peace.
David.

hey david were you always so far up your own arse?

i seem to recall you were a nuclear submarine peon - maybe you are trying to excise some bad karma, cos what you used to do is the worst of the worst ... sneaking round the world with a gazillion nukes ready to touch off at the whim of the chimp in chief...


hypocrite

Re: There will not be a War. You may all Relax.

Now, I want to make something clear.

I am using my trust in saying that there will be peace with Iran.




what trust???

you clearly STATED no war...


that is a FALSE statement

because unless you are GOD almighty you have no fucking way of knowing!


i say again

you are an attention-seeking fool

who is a peon extraordinnaire and doing EXACTLY what the social engineers want

Nuclear Aircraft Carrier.

I'm impressed you remembered that.

Nice.

Yes, I served for 6 years with an honorable discharge.

Many things make up my past.

All of which have lead me to...

Here.

And this will lead me to...

Peace and Bliss. And Unconditional Love for All.

And whatever else is to come.

Peace.
David.

I seek only attention for the Light.

If you know some way better to do it than an anonymous forum, Friend, for free, then I am all ears.

:)

Peace.
David.

;)

Yes, I served for 6 years with an honorable discharge.

Many things make up my past.

All of which have lead me to...

Here.

And this will lead me to...

Peace and Bliss. And Unconditional Love for All.

And whatever else is to come.






then you should grow a few more brains

the USA is in the ME for keeps

that is why all the chaos now in iraq, it is planned that way, it is an excuse to build 13 air bases and have perpetual war

that being the bogus war on terror instigated by the mossad/usa 9/11 false flag operation

the usa and isreal and uk, the triumvirate, aim to squash iran and take their oil

they have already done that to afg and the pipeline there is now secure


if you stopped smoking weed like it was going out of fashion david you might suddenly wake up to the horror of the situation we are facing


you cannot combat that if you are stoned all the time and living in a fantasyworld of the title of your thread

There is a Divine Order to all things.

Do not be too suprised when strange occurances just pop up, and result in a flowing of reality into the Divine Plan.

We are on a schedule, and nothing will prevent us from being on time for it.

yes, there are problems.

I am fully aware of it.

I choose to steer reality towards the Light and Peace.

I will not struggle and yell, and scare away the mouse that was going to nibble my bonds.

The Universe is unfolding.

Think Big.

Peace.
David.

all nuclear weapons have been disabled. They will not work. they know this.

dear star wars fanfic loser...the reason there won't be an iran war is because the u s navy may well take severe casualties...sort of like the death star being blown out of the water by your love interest skywalker:

It all comes out of the "Millenium Challenge '02" war games we staged in the Persian Gulf this summer. The big scandal was that the Opposing Force Commander, Gen. Paul van Ripen, quit mid-game because the games were rigged for the US forces to win. The scenario was a US invasion of an unnamed Persian Gulf country (either Iraq or Iran). The US was testing a new hi-tech joint force doctrine, so naturally van Riper used every lo-tech trick he could think of to mess things up. When the Americans jammed his CCC network , he sent messages by motorbike.

But that was just playing around. They wouldn't have minded that. Might've even congratulated van Ripen, bought him a drink for his smarts, at the post-games party.

The truth is that van Ripen did something so important that I still can't believe the mainstream press hasn't made anything of it. With nothing more than a few "small boats and aircraft," van Ripen managed to sink most of the US fleet in the Persian Gulf.

What this means is as simple and plain as a skull: every US Navy battle group, every one of those big fancy aircraft carriers we love, won't last one single day in combat against a serious enemy.

The Navy brass tried to bluff it out, but they were pretty lame about it. They just declared the sunken ships "refloated" so the game could go on as planned. This is the kind of word-game that makes the military look so damn dumb. Too bad Bonaparte never thought of that after Trafalgar: "My vleete, she is now reflotte!" Too bad Phillip didn't demand a refloat after the Armada went down: "Oye, vatos, dees English sink todos mi ships, chinga sus madres, so escuche: el fleet es ahora refloated, OK?"

Everybody in this story has an agenda-starting with the retired USMC General named Paul van Riper, the hero of the story for most readers. Even the Army Times, when it broke the story, admitted that van Riper has a reputation as an "asshole" who has a grudge against hi-tech scenarios like the one the military was testing. He also has a reputation as a guy who lives for the chance to make the brass look bad in war games.

But that's what a good opposing commander is supposed to do. This van Riper may be an asshole, but then most good generals are. Patton wasn't somebody you'd want to be stuck in an elevator with. Rommel was worse; there's a story about how one morning in the desert Rommel announced to his staff officers, "Today is Christmas. We will now celebrate. Hans, how is your wife? Hermann, how is your wife?" and without waiting for his officers, to answer, Rommel said, "That was Christmas. Now-get out the maps."

And whatever agenda van Ripen had, do you really think the brass who "refloated" the ships he sunk are any more objective? Their careers are all riding on the success of this operation and they've got just as much reason to lie or fudge the results.

The story just got dirtier as it bounced around the web. The gullible types who believe everything the Pentagon tells them, decided to trust the brass -- van Riper was just a troublemaker. The paranoid types, the ones who think the CIA controls the weather, took it for granted that the whole war games were fixed from the start.

A lot of the arguments came down to the question of what war games like Millennium Challenge are about. Trusting war-nerds were saying on the web, "Well, the whole POINT of war games is to show up weaknesses! So naturally when van Ripen sank the ships, they made a note and restarted the games!"

It's a nice idea, but kinda naive. Most war games aren't neutral at all. They're supposed to showcase a new weapon or doctrine. Millennium Challenge was supposed to showcase high-tech joint-force doctrine. So when van Ripen sank the fleet, you can bet that the guys running it didn't just say, "Well played, old boy! We must make a note of your tactics in order to avert such mishaps in the future!"

What most casual readers won't get is that some of van Ripen's moves are chickenshit, and don't amount to anything-but others are so damn scary that the US Navy will be trying to live them down for years.

That trick of sending messages by motorbike is a good example of a move that gets lots of publicity and sounds smart but doesn't mean much. OK, you send your messages by bike. For starters, that means they move at 30 mph, unlike radio messages, which are almost instant. That's a huge disadvantage. And what happens if your biker gets strafed? No message-or a captured message. I'd be happy to fight an army that had nothing better than motorbikes to communicate with.

But what van Ripen did to the US fleet...that's something very different. He was given nothing but small planes and ships-fishing boats, patrol boats, that kind of thing. He kept them circling around the edges of the Persian Gulf aimlessly, driving the Navy crazy trying to keep track of them. When the Admirals finally lost patience and ordered all planes and ships to leave, van Ripen had them all attack at once. And they sank two-thirds of the US fleet.

That should scare the hell out of everybody who cares about how well the US is prepared to fight its next war. It means that a bunch of Cessnas, fishing boats and assorted private craft, crewed by good soldiers and armed with anti-ship missiles, can destroy a US aircraft carrier. That means that the hundreds of trillions (yeah, trillions) of dollars we've invested in shipbuilding is wasted, worthless.

A few years ago, a US submarine commander said, "There are two kinds of ship in the US Navy: subs and targets." The fact that big surface ships are dinosaurs is something that's gotten clearer every decade since 1921.

That was the year Billy Mitchell finally got the chance to prove what he'd been saying for years: large surface ships without air cover had no chance against aircraft. Mitchell had made himself the most hated man in the Armed Forces for saying this, but he wouldn't shut up. Finally, thanks to the huge surplus of military vessels left over from WW I, he got his chance. A German battleship, the Ostfriesland, and three surplus US battleships were anchored off Virginia to see what Mitchell's rickety little biplanes could do to them. You have to remember how big and tough these "dreadnoughts" seemed to people back then. They had the thickest armor, the biggest guns, the deadliest reps of any weapon on land or sea. The idea that aircraft could sink them was a joke for most people. Of course, the Navy brass knew, and tried everything to stop the tests. They knew all too well what was going to happen--and it wasn't good for their careers.

The little biplanes buzzed out...and sank every ship. First a destroyer, then the huge German battleship, then all three US battleships. The Navy tried to ignore the results, but with Mitchell yapping at their heels, they finally started moving from battleship-based to aircraft-carrier-based battle groups.

The British didn't pay any attention to Mitchell's demonstration. Their battleships were better made, better armed, and better manned. With an impregnable British stronghold in Singapore and the RN patrolling offshore, what could those little Jap monkeys do?

Three days after Pearl Harbor, the British found out. A powerful battle group led by the battleship Prince of Wales and the Cruiser Repulse steamed out to oppose Japanese landings in Malaysia, and ran into several squadrons of Japanese planes. In a few minutes both ships were sinking, The Prince of Wales sank so fast virtually the entire crew went down with her. With its Naval screen gone, Singapore the Impregnable fell so fast the British still can't talk about it.

What the battleship was in 1941, the aircraft carrier is now: a big, proud, expensive...sitting duck.Aircraft carriers came out of WW II looking powerful, but that was before microchips. Now, when an enemy tanker can fire 60 self-guiding cruise missiles from hundreds of miles away, no carrier will survive its first real battle.

Carriers are not only the biggest and most expensive ships ever built--they're the most vulnerable. Because even one serious cruise-missile hit means the carrier can't launch its planes, its best weapons. They will sink to the bottom with their crews, not having fired a shot.

That was the real lesson of Millennium Challenge II. And that's what has the Navy so furious at van Riper: he blew their cover. He showed all the hicks back home that the carrier battle fleet can be sunk by "small planes and boats." As weapons become smaller and deadlier, big targets just won't survive.

The signs have been there all along. In the Falklands War, the Argentine Air Force, which ain't exactly the A Team, managed to shred the British fleet, coming in low and fast to launch the Exocets. And they did all this hundreds of miles off their coast, with no land-based systems to help.

If the Argentines could do that with 1980 technology, think what the Chinese, Iranians or North Koreans could do in 2003 against a city-size floating target like a US carrier.

If your local library has copies of Jane's Weapons Systems, check out the anti-ship missile section. The top of the line in standard weaponry might still be the old US Harpoon, but you don't need anything that fancy. Anti-ship missiles are easy to make and use, because surface ships are very slow, have huge radar signatures, and can't dodge.

We may be lucky a little while longer, as long as we take on losers like Iraq. But what about Iran? The Iranians aren't cowardly slaves like the Iraqis. They're smart, they're dedicated, and they hate us like poison. Imagine how many "small aircraft and boats" there are along the Iranian coastline. Imagine every one of those craft stuffed full of explosives and turned into kamikazes. Now add all the anti-ship missiles the Iranians have been able to buy on the open market. If you really want to get scared, add a nuke or two.

Suppose the Iranians use van Riper's method: send everything at once, from every ship, plane and boat they've got, directly at the carrier. Give the Navy the benefit of the doubt and say they get 90% of the incoming missiles. You still end up with a dead carrier.

Now try shifting the scenario to a US-China fight off Taiwan. The Chinese have it all: subs, planes, anti-ship missiles-Hell, they SELL that stuff to other countries! I'll say it plain: no American carrier would last five minutes in a full-scale naval battle off China.

Let's go back to that objection some of you are probably raising: "The Navy must've thought of all that!" Oh yeah? Why didn't the British think of it in 1940? There was plenty of evidence that battleships were nothing but giant coffins. They just decided not to think about it.

That's what the US Navy does now. There are careers here, big money, tradition. There's always been a surface navy; so there's always got to BE one. That's about as far as their reasoning gets.

One day we'll wake up to a second Pearl Harbor. Maybe not this year--fighting a joke like Saddam, the US Navy can probably getting away with sending its carriers into the Persian Gulf. But if Iran gets involved, those carriers won't last one day. If they ever approach the Chinese coast in wartime, they'll just vanish. If a carrier-based group steams anywhere near the North Korean coast...well, there won't even be enough left to make a good dive-site.

And the sickest part is that the admirals and the captains and the contractors all know it. Goddamn. Maybe we deserve what's gonna happen to us. Only thing is, it won't be the brass who die. It'll be the poor trusting kids on those carriers who'll die, the poor suckers who thought they'd get free training and a world tour, or even get the chance to "defend America." They'll die not even believing what's happening to them as the whole giant hulk starts cracking up and sliding into the water.

War, which is promised to be peace, if fought for; is a product which only the few are able to sell , to the many, who are allowed and encouraged by patriotic propaganda(sales pitch) to just buy it (free trade)
I'll buy that for a (U.S)dollar
..
...............:dubya:
Peace is "the product", and the price asked for it is war.

"America is most secure(peaceful), when freedom is on the march(on the war path)

Got to "catapult :dubya:the propaganda"

Anyone "remember" what happened to king Nebacanezzar (sp?) when he boasted his kingdom was greater than even the kingdom of heaven? Didn't take ANY military action to bring his rule to a screeching halt.

After he was "as a beast in the field" and ate grass for 7 years. His empire crumbled in days.

Oh the power of consciousness...

At this point, I would simply like to quote the Dalai Lama.

"Remember that silence is sometimes the best answer."

All will be okay in the end, whatever happens, Friends.

Know that this Life has meaning, and that Death is Safe.

Peace.
David.

I often think it funny all these bipeds scrambling around trying to beat each other making nukes. We got nukes and you can't have them.

If you try to make them we will nuke you.

What if the nukes no longer work at all?

Have you heard of any going off lately or any underground tests or tests at all for that matter.

What if the PTB know that they wont work but they have to keep up the facade to keep us all living in fear. Or thats what the Dark wants. Pepetual war and people living in fear. It used to work before so many of us have woken up. Now we have a critical mass that has at last turned the tide. We are rising up and shaking off the shackles that we allowed to be placed on us.

They are scurrying around watching their mighty construct fail as the light bleeds away the darkness. Fear isn't working anymore the human harvest is coming up short. The battle for our souls has been won by the light.

When it is all said and done duality is just an illusion. All comes back to source.

NO WAR now what am I gonna do with my Geiger counter and lead suit

You're an idiot! I'm tired of listening to pagan Buddist tripe. You don't know what's going to happen any more than the man on the moon.

72654

And, still, there will not be a war with Iran.

:)

DAVID, THANK YOU FOR AN EXCELLENT THREAD. SO MUCH FEAR, SO MUCH ANGER, SO MUCH IGNORANCE, YET YOU REMAINED CALM DURING THE STORM.

THAT 72... GUY, SO FULL OF IT BUT TOTALLY UNAWARE OF THE POWER BEING APPLIED. LISTSING CURRENT WARS IGNORES THE BASIC PREMISE "THERE WILL BE NO WAR" REFERS CLEARLY TO PLANNED EVENTS NOT CURRENT CONFLICTS.

HE THEN BLATHERS ON ABOUT DOING, DOING WHAT, WHAT DOES DOING MEAN. EXAMPLE THE BEST POLITICIAN DOES NOT NEED AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER BUT ONLY A FEW WELL CHOSEN WORDS AND THE OPPOSITION IS TOTALLY DEFLATED.

LISTS OF WARS, WOW, THATS SOMETHING. BUT HOW ABOUT A LIST OF PINK BALLOONS, EFFORTS BY THE DARKSIDE TO FINISH THEIR PALNS, EACH AND EVERYONE A TOTAL FAILURE. START LIST

ARGENTINA, FAILED.

VENEQUEAL, FAILED,
BOLIVIAR, FAILED,
BIRD FLU, FAILED
911, FAILED

IRAQ, "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" FAILED.

YOU REALLY NEED TO LOOK DEEPER AND SEE ALL THE DAMP SQUIBS.

WHY

BECAUSE TRUTH UNRAVELS THE DARKEST PLOTS. AND TRUTH IS "DOING" THINGS.

WHY THE FUSS, LACK OF LEADERSHIP SKILLS AND KNOWLEDGE OF HOW POWER WORKS. WHY DOES THE DARKSIDE NEED TO TAKE OUT COMMUNICATIONS IN A FIRST STRIKE, BECAUSE COMMUNICATIONS IS POWER. COMMUNICATION CO-ORDINATES.

IN EVERY TEAM THERE ARE MANY SKILLS. THE PLANNER DOES LITTLE BUT THE SUCCESS OF THE MISSION DEPENDS UPON HIM.

I SUGGEST THOSE IN DENIAL, DO THEIR OWN WORK, GET THERE HEADS OUT OF THE SAND AND SEE WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON.

THE GLOBAL HUMAN BODY POLITIC IS INFECTED WITH A MAJOR CANCER, THE PATIENT IS NEARLY DEAD. THE CROWS AND VULTURES CIRCLE BUT IT IS NOT DEAD. A CURE HAS BEEN FOUND, CANCER CELLS ARE BEING WIPED OUT, BUT SLOWLY. HOWEVER, SOON CRITICAL MASS WILL BE ACHIEVED AND THE LOST OF CANCER CELLS WILL BE NO MORE.

SMILE, EVEN THAT IS DOING SOMETHING.

TRYPNIG HERE IS DOING SOMETHING.

DOES NOT MEAN I AM NOT ALSO DOING SOMETHING ELSE, JUST AS YOU DONT KNOW WHAT COMMANDER SHRUB IS UP TO, YOU DONT KNOW WHAT I AM UPTO OR DAVID OR ANYBODY ELESE.

GL

I consider writing on an open forum, as we are doing here, to be very, very constructive.

I hope YOU, gentle reader, take this to heart: This world will be as we make it. Make it a good One. Make it full of Love and Light and Happiness.

You cannot spread Joy without getting it all over yourself.

It is enough to BE and to BE HAPPY.

Enjoy Nature. Befriend the Animals.

Hold a relationship with Mother Earth and Father God. Know that you need not Fear.

Ever.

Know that there are enough good people. That you probably actually can trust your neighbors.

Become their friends.

Give them some cookies some time. See if they don't give you a smile every time you see them.

Forgive them if they are weird or messed up politically.

The world is just learning the Truth, Friends. We, as a global consciousness.

We have been growing, and dreaming wildly. We have been Lost.

But we are Found now.

All answers Lie within us.

Someone very very Dear to me has advised me to... be more discrete.

And so I shall.

But just remember, there are wise ones who walk this Globe, and many do it silently.

Anonymously, as I am here, or driving a taxi, washing dishes, whatever.

Get to know people.

Find someone who has a bright spark within them and hang out a little with them.

You are all so Beautiful, and all so very Loved. The Divine has no such thing as Hatred or Wrath.

Simply open up and let the Love pour out from you, because it feels good, and Fate will smile on you.

There are many roads to the state of Bliss.

May you all find the way there.

God Bless.
David.

DAVID

I THINK THEY HAVE RUN AWAY, TO "DO" SOMETHING.

FAULTY LOGIC AND ARGUMENTS BASED UPON IT NEVERCEASE TO AMAZE ME.

LIKE THOSE GUYS THAT THINK THAT BECAUSE YOU POST HERE YOU DONT HAVE A LIFE. "GET A LIFE" THEY SOLEMLY ADVISE, LITTLE KNOWING THAT YOU HAVE PERHAPS A TEN FOLD MORE ACTIVE LIFE THAN THEY DO.

THEY ARE SO TRAPPED IN THE BOX, THEY CANNOT EVEN COMPREHEND WHAT IS GOING ON, LET ALONE DISCUSS IT.

FOR EXAMPLE, IRAN, JUST SUBSTITUTE ONE WORD, IRAQ, AND YOU HAVE A COMPLETE CARBON COPTY OF THE RHETORIC AND SABRE RATTLING. CLASSIC ILLUSTRATION THAT THESE FEAR MONGERS HAVE NO IMAGINATION, DO NOT WALK THERE OWN ROAD OR EVEN KNOW WHAT A ROAD IS.

THEN YOU HAVE THOSE THAT LIMP SAUDI ARABIA AND IRAN TOGETHER. LIJE SAYING JESUITS AND JEHOVA WITNESSES ARE ALL THE SAME.

THE DAM IS FRATURED, THE WATER GUSHING OUT BUT EXACTLY WHEN IT WILL BURST, WHO KNOWS, WHO CARES, ITS DOOMED.

GL

I haven't read the entire thread but...
I don't need to. I've heard enough.

GL


if a war starts tomorrow, is david wrong?

by your logic the answer is yes

i rest my case



wars start all the time, they ebb and flow

wishing it were no so like u and david do will not change anything

i fully understand the power of the mind and consciousness to achieve what you want to achieve, but so far it hasn't worked, has it?


if it has, pls tell me where and when


the fact is, u and david, despite your best intentions, cannot influence world events


all u can influence is those immediately in your physical circle

bleating crapola on a forum such as this does not cut it

oh and btw i am a big fan of john pilger

this was written a while ago

and this is THEIR long term game plan

deal with it


Two years ago a project set up by the men who now surround George W Bush said what America needed was "a new Pearl Harbor". Its published aims have, alarmingly, come true. : John Pilger :12 Dec 2002



The threat posed by US terrorism to the security of nations and individuals was outlined in prophetic detail in a document written more than two years ago and disclosed only recently. What was needed for America to dominate much of humanity and the world's resources, it said, was "some catastrophic and catalysing event - like a new Pearl Harbor". The attacks of 11 September 2001 provided the "new Pearl Harbor", described as "the opportunity of ages". The extremists who have since exploited 11 September come from the era of Ronald Reagan, when far-right groups and "think-tanks" were established to avenge the American "defeat" in Vietnam. In the 1990s, there was an added agenda: to justify the denial of a "peace dividend" following the cold war. The Project for the New American Century was formed, along with the American Enterprise Institute, the Hudson Institute and others that have since merged the ambitions of the Reagan administration with those of the current Bush regime.

One of George W Bush's "thinkers" is Richard Perle. I interviewed Perle when he was advising Reagan; and when he spoke about "total war", I mistakenly dismissed him as mad. He recently used the term again in describing America's "war on terror". "No stages," he said. "This is total war. We are fighting a variety of enemies. There are lots of them out there. All this talk about first we are going to do Afghanistan, then we will do Iraq... this is entirely the wrong way to go about it. If we just let our vision of the world go forth, and we embrace it entirely and we don't try to piece together clever diplomacy, but just wage a total war... our children will sing great songs about us years from now."

Perle is one of the founders of the Project for the New American Century, the PNAC. Other founders include Dick Cheney, now vice-president, Donald Rumsfeld, defence secretary, Paul Wolfowitz, deputy defence secretary, I Lewis Libby, Cheney's chief of staff, William J Bennett, Reagan's education secretary, and Zalmay Khalilzad, Bush's ambassador to Afghanistan. These are the modern chartists of American terrorism. The PNAC's seminal report, Rebuilding America's Defences: strategy, forces and resources for a new century, was a blueprint of American aims in all but name. Two years ago it recommended an increase in arms-spending by $48bn so that Washington could "fight and win multiple, simultaneous major theatre wars". This has happened. It said the United States should develop "bunker-buster" nuclear weapons and make "star wars" a national priority. This is happening. It said that, in the event of Bush taking power, Iraq should be a target. And so it is.

As for Iraq's alleged "weapons of mass destruction", these were dismissed, in so many words, as a convenient excuse, which it is. "While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification," it says, "the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein." How has this grand strategy been implemented? A series of articles in the Washington Post, co-authored by Bob Woodward of Watergate fame and based on long interviews with senior members of the Bush administration, reveals how 11 September was manipulated.

On the morning of 12 September 2001, without any evidence of who the hijackers were, Rumsfeld demanded that the US attack Iraq. According to Woodward, Rumsfeld told a cabinet meeting that Iraq should be "a principal target of the first round in the war against terrorism". Iraq was temporarily spared only because Colin Powell, the secretary of state, persuaded Bush that "public opinion has to be prepared before a move against Iraq is possible". Afghanistan was chosen as the softer option. If Jonathan Steele's estimate in the Guardian is correct, some 20,000 people in Afghanistan paid the price of this debate with their lives.

Time and again, 11 September is described as an "opportunity". In last April's New Yorker, the investigative reporter Nicholas Lemann wrote that Bush's most senior adviser, Condoleezza Rice, told him she had called together senior members of the National Security Council and asked them "to think about 'how do you capitalise on these opportunities'", which she compared with those of "1945 to 1947": the start of the cold war. Since 11 September, America has established bases at the gateways to all the major sources of fossil fuels, especially central Asia. The Unocal oil company is to build a pipeline across Afghanistan. Bush has scrapped the Kyoto Protocol on greenhouse gas emissions, the war crimes provisions of the International Criminal Court and the anti-ballistic missile treaty. He has said he will use nuclear weapons against non-nuclear states "if necessary". Under cover of propaganda about Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction, the Bush regime is developing new weapons of mass destruction that undermine international treaties on biological and chemical warfare.

In the Los Angeles Times, the military analyst William Arkin describes a secret army set up by Donald Rumsfeld, similar to those run by Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger and which Congress outlawed. This "super-intelligence support activity" will bring together the "CIA and military covert action, information warfare, and deception". According to a classified document prepared for Rumsfeld, the new organisation, known by its Orwellian moniker as the Proactive Pre-emptive Operations Group, or P2OG, will provoke terrorist attacks which would then require "counter-attack" by the United States on countries "harbouring the terrorists".

In other words, innocent people will be killed by the United States. This is reminiscent of Operation Northwoods, the plan put to President Kennedy by his military chiefs for a phoney terrorist campaign - complete with bombings, hijackings, plane crashes and dead Americans - as justification for an invasion of Cuba. Kennedy rejected it. He was assassinated a few months later. Now Rumsfeld has resurrected Northwoods, but with resources undreamt of in 1963 and with no global rival to invite caution. You have to keep reminding yourself this is not fantasy: that truly dangerous men, such as Perle and Rumsfeld and Cheney, have power. The thread running through their ruminations is the importance of the media: "the prioritised task of bringing on board journalists of repute to accept our position".

"Our position" is code for lying. Certainly, as a journalist, I have never known official lying to be more pervasive than today. We may laugh at the vacuities in Tony Blair's "Iraq dossier" and Jack Straw's inept lie that Iraq has developed a nuclear bomb (which his minions rushed to "explain"). But the more insidious lies, justifying an unprovoked attack on Iraq and linking it to would-be terrorists who are said to lurk in every Tube station, are routinely channelled as news. They are not news; they are black propaganda.

This corruption makes journalists and broadcasters mere ventriloquists' dummies. An attack on a nation of 22 million suffering people is discussed by liberal commentators as if it were a subject at an academic seminar, at which pieces can be pushed around a map, as the old imperialists used to do.

The issue for these humanitarians is not primarily the brutality of modern imperial domination, but how "bad" Saddam Hussein is. There is no admission that their decision to join the war party further seals the fate of perhaps thousands of innocent Iraqis condemned to wait on America's international death row. Their doublethink will not work. You cannot support murderous piracy in the name of humanitarianism. Moreover, the extremes of American fundamentalism that we now face have been staring at us for too long for those of good heart and sense not to recognise them.

It is the future I speak of.

It hasn't happened yet.

So how may I be wrong alredy?

We all speculate about the future every day.

And I fully believe that the Future will Contain Peace.

How can hopes and dreams be wrong?

Especially when I use as my basis, Love.

I cannot.

Peace.
David.

complete and utter idiot bump


we all want peace but we don't start attention-seeking BS love and light threads saying to RELAX, there will be NO WAR






idiot