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Proof that evolution is a lie from satan (et al.)

 
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Yep and our founding father's were actually freemasons. It's interesting to, in a book, I believe it was morals and dogma, by 33 degree freeemason Albert Pike (who's buried in a shrine in washington DC) wrote how there has to be three world wars, and the pretexts for them.


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Um, wrong. Pike NEVER mentions any of the sort in his book. I have a .PDF copy and I did scans for the words, 'World', 'War' , 'Illuminati' and in all of the uses of the words through the entire book there is NEVER any mention of the stuff you've quoted.

That information is supposedly provided via Jeff Rense from a letter he supposedly read that claims what you're saying.

Let's not twist the facts.
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Yep and our founding father's were actually freemasons. It's interesting to, in a book, I believe it was morals and dogma, by 33 degree freeemason Albert Pike (who's buried in a shrine in washington DC) wrote how there has to be three world wars, and the pretexts for them.


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Um, wrong. Pike NEVER mentions any of the sort in his book. I have a .PDF copy and I did scans for the words, 'World', 'War' , 'Illuminati' and in all of the uses of the words through the entire book there is NEVER any mention of the stuff you've quoted.

That information is supposedly provided via Jeff Rense from a letter he supposedly read that claims what you're saying.

Let's not twist the facts.
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That's right it was a letter that pike wrote. In any case, that's why I wrote I believe, because I was not sure, my intentions were not to 'twist the facts' and in any case I'm sure there is validity to the claim, because obviously it all was set up. But in any case thanks for the correction, I certainly want to be accurate.
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not one of your videos had proof or prophecy
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not one of your videos had proof or prophecy
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If you want proof, pray to Jesus, if you want prophecy, open your Bible.

P.S.

Thanks for the "down" friend.

I'd also like to thank you for inspiring me. I not only in a future thread will be sharing my personal testimony experiencing God, but will also devote an entire thread to prophecy that you will NOT be able to dispute.

Cheers.

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If you want proof, pray to Jesus, if you want prophecy, open your Bible.
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But, but, but you promised us proof right here in this thread.
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not one of your videos had proof or prophecy
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If you want proof, pray to Jesus, if you want prophecy, open your Bible.

P.S.

Thanks for the "down" friend.

I'd also like to thank you for inspiring me. I not only in a future thread will be sharing my personal testimony experiencing God, but will also devote an entire thread to prophecy that you will NOT be able to dispute.

Cheers.
 Quoting: Witness for Him


faith is NOT proof



there is NO prophecy in the bible at all


if the loose coincidences are intentional its because it is a plan from the very same ASSHOLES who reign today.


your testimony wont help you nor anyone else to heaven, if you were meant to go there you will if not there is nothing you can do.


you and your thread will end up here if not already:

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If you want proof, pray to Jesus, if you want prophecy, open your Bible.
 Quoting: Witness for Him

But, but, but you promised us proof right here in this thread.
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 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


Did you even watch all 9 videos in there entirety? Only God can give you proof, through prayer and his will, he says that those who take pleasure of unrighteousness will be given over to the lies of the world. I also said in the intro to the OP that I was not gonna argue with non-believers, because it's very typical for folks to come out of the woodwork and attack you, but if your diametrically opposed to it, and your not willing to consider the material with an open mind and heart than why attack and tell me I'm wrong? Why not just move along if you already know where your disposition towards Christianity is?
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 Quoting: violentoppisition


If you want proof, pray to Jesus, if you want prophecy, open your Bible.

P.S.

Thanks for the "down" friend.

I'd also like to thank you for inspiring me. I not only in a future thread will be sharing my personal testimony experiencing God, but will also devote an entire thread to prophecy that you will NOT be able to dispute.

Cheers.
 Quoting: Witness for Him


faith is NOT proof



there is NO prophecy in the bible at all


if the loose coincidences are intentional its because it is a plan from the very same ASSHOLES who reign today.


your testimony wont help you nor anyone else to heaven, if you were meant to go there you will if not there is nothing you can do.


you and your thread will end up here if not already:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
 Quoting: violentoppisition

Faith is not proof, but the only way you will get 'proof' is by God's will, otherwise your heart will be waxed shut and you wont have eyes to see, or ears to hear. These things can only be discerned spiritually, even with information presented, that's why I said pray about it.

I would however argue, that the fact that the apostles of Jesus Christ, who saw him after his resurrection, were convinced enough to endure awful torture, imprisonment, and persecution and ultimately die horrendous deaths and lose everything they had in this world for their testimony of Jesus Christ. And there is no denying these things from a historical perspective.

I find it humorous that I've 'made your list' of 'false prophets and failed predictions' when I myself have yet to prophesy or make any predictions, but if it makes you feel better go right ahead.

And the Bible is over 1/3 prophecy, and there have been undeniable events occurring in the world that correlate to end-time prophecy that one could either equate to layers of mathematically impossible "coincidences" or in fact, the fulfillment of prophecy. (post to come)

I don't know where you stand religously speaking, but if you've already determined that Christianity is not for you, I find it interesting that you would come here, to attack what I have to say, tell me I'm wrong, etc, instead of just carrying on about your business.

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Faith is not proof, but the only way you will get 'proof' is by God's will, otherwise your heart will be waxed shut and you wont have eyes to see, or ears to hear.
 Quoting: Witness for Him


That sounds completely backwards, imo.
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Faith is not proof, but the only way you will get 'proof' is by God's will, otherwise your heart will be waxed shut and you wont have eyes to see, or ears to hear.
 Quoting: Witness for Him


That sounds completely backwards, imo.
 Quoting: AllGunsBlazing


If you want God to open up to you, to show you the truth, and reveal himself to you, it's relatively simple. Pray about it. Something like this.

"God, I know that I have my reasons that I don't believe, and there are things that I just don't have the answers to, but I acknowledge that I am a sinner, and I that I don't deserve salvation, but I believe that Jesus Christ is your son, and that he died for my sins, and I just pray that you will reveal yourself to me so that I can be convicted have faith and be led to repentance. I ask this in Jesus' name, Amen"

Even if your not totally convinced, try and, and mean the best you can, and see what happens.
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HA HA you believe Satan is in people.
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"Exalting mankind to the status of deity...dates from the farthest reaches of antiquity, but its development into an ideology embracing the masses is a characteristic of modernity." (Herbert Schlossberg, cited in The Seduction of Christianity, Dave Hunt and T.A. McMahon)

The occult worship a "god of forces" within their monastic beliefs, that God is in all. This force is unknowable and impersonal akin to a cosmic law or principal. The absurdity of natural selection is that it is such a "force", a principal a law that governs the supposed evolution of humans.

We've been utterly deceived. Those who believe in natural selection of the theory of evolution exalt this occultic force as truth and deny the Creator of mankind as a lie. It was that easy for the serpent to achieve.

The serpent wasn't declared the craftiest for nothing.
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"Exalting mankind to the status of deity...dates from the farthest reaches of antiquity, but its development into an ideology embracing the masses is a characteristic of modernity." (Herbert Schlossberg, cited in The Seduction of Christianity, Dave Hunt and T.A. McMahon)

The occult worship a "god of forces" within their monastic beliefs, that God is in all. This force is unknowable and impersonal akin to a cosmic law or principal. The absurdity of natural selection is that it is such a "force", a principal a law that governs the supposed evolution of humans.

We've been utterly deceived. Those who believe in natural selection of the theory of evolution exalt this occultic force as truth and deny the Creator of mankind as a lie. It was that easy for the serpent to achieve.

The serpent wasn't declared the craftiest for nothing.
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Amen.

Thanks for your input.

hf
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Faith is not proof, but the only way you will get 'proof' is by God's will, otherwise your heart will be waxed shut and you wont have eyes to see, or ears to hear.
 Quoting: Witness for Him


That sounds completely backwards, imo.
 Quoting: AllGunsBlazing


If you want God to open up to you, to show you the truth, and reveal himself to you, it's relatively simple. Pray about it. Something like this.

"God, I know that I have my reasons that I don't believe, and there are things that I just don't have the answers to, but I acknowledge that I am a sinner, and I that I don't deserve salvation, but I believe that Jesus Christ is your son, and that he died for my sins, and I just pray that you will reveal yourself to me so that I can be convicted have faith and be led to repentance. I ask this in Jesus' name, Amen"

Even if your not totally convinced, try and, and mean the best you can, and see what happens.
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So basically, and I don't mean this in a harsh way at all, I have to put a guilt trip on myself? I have to make myself feel unworthy and constantly live a life of feeling like an inadequate person.

Because it reads to me like this: "God, you haven't shown me you exist at all and everything people say to me about you seems like a lie, but I acknowledge that I'm a crappy person and need you in my life, because you gave me something I never asked for or believed was necessary. Continue to forgive me for being such a crappy person, because once I truly believe I'm a crappy person you'll reveal yourself to me for the rest of my life."

Not trying to be mean about it, it's just how it reads to me. Sounds like emotional abuse.

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Yep, evolution is a lie.
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Faith is not proof, but the only way you will get 'proof' is by God's will, otherwise your heart will be waxed shut and you wont have eyes to see, or ears to hear.
 Quoting: Witness for Him


That sounds completely backwards, imo.
 Quoting: AllGunsBlazing


If you want God to open up to you, to show you the truth, and reveal himself to you, it's relatively simple. Pray about it. Something like this.

"God, I know that I have my reasons that I don't believe, and there are things that I just don't have the answers to, but I acknowledge that I am a sinner, and I that I don't deserve salvation, but I believe that Jesus Christ is your son, and that he died for my sins, and I just pray that you will reveal yourself to me so that I can be convicted have faith and be led to repentance. I ask this in Jesus' name, Amen"

Even if your not totally convinced, try and, and mean the best you can, and see what happens.
 Quoting: Witness for Him


So basically, and I don't mean this in a harsh way at all, I have to put a guilt trip on myself? I have to make myself feel unworthy and constantly live a life of feeling like an inadequate person.

Because it reads to me like this: "God, you haven't shown me you exist at all and everything people say to me about you seems like a lie, but I acknowledge that I'm a crappy person and need you in my life, because you gave me something I never asked for or believed was necessary. Continue to forgive me for being such a crappy person for the rest of my life."

Not trying to be mean about it, it's just how it reads to me. Sounds like emotional abuse.
 Quoting: AllGunsBlazing


Basically at this point since you don't believe, you are in essence not able to see the truth. God tells us that if we knock he will answer, he also says that those who take pleasure in unrighteousness will be given over to the lies of the world. In order for one to be teachable, one almost has to have to have the mentality of a child in the sense that they must be receptive/open minded, and ready to learn, and active in pursuing the truth and admitting they don't have the answers.

Praying that prayer is acknowledging the truth to GOD.

Because God is a holy and righteous God, and because he loves his creation, he has certain characteristics. First of all we have ALL fallen short of the glory of God as he is perfect and exists eternally. This goes all the way back to the beginning of creation, when man existed in harmony in God's presence, and chose to disobey God's admonishment to live a life that resulted in peace/love/harmony. God's way is the only way that produces peace and love, and the history of man is a testimony of this with all of his wars and destruction of the planet etc. If you've looked at a man/woman and lusted you've committed adultery, if you've ever felt contempt towards someone you've had the spirit of murder, if you've stolen even a penny, to a paperclip, if you've ever been jealous, if you've ever coveted money, video games, anything for that matter above God, if you've had pride and excessive love and admiration of self, you've fallen short of the glory of God's righteousness and sinned. (obviously we all have)

Because God is just, when we stand before him, he must judge us accordingly, he couldn't be just and at the same time let us get away with our sins, it'd be like, for example, standing in front of a judge on charges of rape and being like "yeah I did rape that woman, but, but usually I hold doors open for women, and now days I wouldn't do something like that, and I want to help women out, etc." As a just Judge, he would have to sentence us based on the rape crime, or he would lose his job, and criminals could just do whatever they want.

So basically we have two options, either we pay for our sins with our eternal destruction, or we accept the free offering of his son Jesus Christ, who payed for our sins. (basically because we are so full of sin, its analogous to our bodies being a full cup, the sin being the contents thereof, and the only way to remove contents (sin), is to pour them into an empty cup, hence Jesus Christ had no sin. This is because God cannot accept man's perverted ways into his kingdom. God is actually EXTREMELY loving, that he has offered mankind a free gift of salvation though none of us deserve it.

And even if you think oh well I'm here and I never wanted to be, you have still been blessed mightily and could live in a dictatorship, without running water/electricity etc, constantly fearing for your life, born with deformities, disease, a life full of ridicule, etc. etc.

So you still have much reason to be grateful.

Hope this kinda helps answer your questions.

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Yep, evolution is a lie.
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That sounds completely backwards, imo.
 Quoting: AllGunsBlazing


If you want God to open up to you, to show you the truth, and reveal himself to you, it's relatively simple. Pray about it. Something like this.

"God, I know that I have my reasons that I don't believe, and there are things that I just don't have the answers to, but I acknowledge that I am a sinner, and I that I don't deserve salvation, but I believe that Jesus Christ is your son, and that he died for my sins, and I just pray that you will reveal yourself to me so that I can be convicted have faith and be led to repentance. I ask this in Jesus' name, Amen"

Even if your not totally convinced, try and, and mean the best you can, and see what happens.
 Quoting: Witness for Him


So basically, and I don't mean this in a harsh way at all, I have to put a guilt trip on myself? I have to make myself feel unworthy and constantly live a life of feeling like an inadequate person.

Because it reads to me like this: "God, you haven't shown me you exist at all and everything people say to me about you seems like a lie, but I acknowledge that I'm a crappy person and need you in my life, because you gave me something I never asked for or believed was necessary. Continue to forgive me for being such a crappy person for the rest of my life."

Not trying to be mean about it, it's just how it reads to me. Sounds like emotional abuse.
 Quoting: AllGunsBlazing


Basically at this point since you don't believe, you are in essence not able to see the truth. God tells us that if we knock he will answer, he also says that those who take pleasure in unrighteousness will be given over to the lies of the world. In order for one to be teachable, one almost has to have to have the mentality of a child in the sense that they must be receptive/open minded, and ready to learn, and active in pursuing the truth and admitting they don't have the answers.

Praying that prayer is acknowledging the truth to GOD.

Because God is a holy and righteous God, and because he loves his creation, he has certain characteristics. First of all we have ALL fallen short of the glory of God as he is perfect and exists eternally. This goes all the way back to the beginning of creation, when man existed in harmony in God's presence, and chose to disobey God's admonishment to live a life that resulted in peace/love/harmony. God's way is the only way that produces peace and love, and the history of man is a testimony of this with all of his wars and destruction of the planet etc. If you've looked at a man/woman and lusted you've committed adultery, if you've ever felt contempt towards someone you've had the spirit of murder, if you've stolen even a penny, to a paperclip, if you've ever been jealous, if you've ever coveted money, video games, anything for that matter above God, if you've had pride and excessive love and admiration of self, you've fallen short of the glory of God's righteousness and sinned. (obviously we all have)

Because God is just, when we stand before him, he must judge us accordingly, he couldn't be just and at the same time let us get away with our sins, it'd be like, for example, standing in front of a judge on charges of rape and being like "yeah I did rape that woman, but, but usually I hold doors open for women, and now days I wouldn't do something like that, and I want to help women out, etc." As a just Judge, he would have to sentence us based on the rape crime, or he would lose his job, and criminals could just do whatever they want.

So basically we have two options, either we pay for our sins with our eternal destruction, or we accept the free offering of his son Jesus Christ, who payed for our sins. (basically because we are so full of sin, its analogous to our bodies being a full cup, the sin being the contents thereof, and the only way to remove contents (sin), is to pour them into an empty cup, hence Jesus Christ had no sin. This is because God cannot accept man's perverted ways into his kingdom. God is actually EXTREMELY loving, that he has offered mankind a free gift of salvation though none of us deserve it.

And even if you think oh well I'm here and I never wanted to be, you have still been blessed mightily and could live in a dictatorship, without running water/electricity etc, constantly fearing for your life, born with deformities, disease, a life full of ridicule, etc. etc.

So you still have much reason to be grateful.

Hope this kinda helps answer your questions.
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