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God repsonds to atheism

 
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he could have appeared to eveyone, instead of just a few whose institutions bathe in wealth , power , and constant child rape scandals.


would have greatly helped the credibility of the whole thing.
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God also lives in a house made of clouds and drinks unicorn milk for breakfast. Sometimes he farts vast violet clouds of misty vapor that smells like sandalwood and vanilla. Occasionally he takes bong hits of pure happiness and chills with his middle aged son. Jesus lives in the basement of the cloudy house, because he lost his job in his 30's and the job market just doesn't really appeal to him anymore. Besides, work was really killing him.
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I know you think your cute. You do not offend me one bit. I think A) it's immature, and I think B) the fact that you are making comments like that in a thread about a God you don't believe in speaks volumes, and also fulfills prophecy

But most importantly, the saddest thing is, you are blind/ignorant to the truth, and whether you believe or not at the end of the day you are going to have to stand in front of Him and be judged, and there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, because you blaspheme him. I suggest you fall to your knees and seek forgiveness and ask God to reveal himself to you so you can follow him and find salvation.
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God also lives in a house made of clouds and drinks unicorn milk for breakfast. Sometimes he farts vast violet clouds of misty vapor that smells like sandalwood and vanilla. Occasionally he takes bong hits of pure happiness and chills with his middle aged son. Jesus lives in the basement of the cloudy house, because he lost his job in his 30's and the job market just doesn't really appeal to him anymore. Besides, work was really killing him.
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You just made my day!! I really needed that :-)
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God also lives in a house made of clouds and drinks unicorn milk for breakfast. Sometimes he farts vast violet clouds of misty vapor that smells like sandalwood and vanilla. Occasionally he takes bong hits of pure happiness and chills with his middle aged son. Jesus lives in the basement of the cloudy house, because he lost his job in his 30's and the job market just doesn't really appeal to him anymore. Besides, work was really killing him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31014627


I know you think your cute. You do not offend me one bit. I think A) it's immature, and I think B) the fact that you are making comments like that in a thread about a God you don't believe in speaks volumes, and also fulfills prophecy

But most importantly, the saddest thing is, you are blind/ignorant to the truth, and whether you believe or not at the end of the day you are going to have to stand in front of Him and be judged, and there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, because you blaspheme him. I suggest you fall to your knees and seek forgiveness and ask God to reveal himself to you so you can follow him and find salvation.
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You people actually believe you're right and everyone else is just deluded...
Sad, chidish and completely mind boggling that anyone of even mediocre intellect can believe in what is essentially, nothing more than a fairytale.
I wouldn't fall to my knee's even if he did exist!
For all the shit he's stirred and lives he's ruined he can kiss my ass :-)
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he could have appeared to eveyone, instead of just a few whose institutions bathe in wealth , power , and constant child rape scandals.


would have greatly helped the credibility of the whole thing.
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So apparently you also find it to be just a coincidence that the new world order was prophesied in the Bible? or that the White house is beneath a giant pentagram? or that all high power government leaders worship satan?

You are speaking out complete ignorance. Maybe you should open your Bible, do some praying, and read what JESUS says, so you can first learn to differentiate a true follower of Christ from the antichrist system itself. secondly There is boatloads of proof for the existence of Jesus.




Hmm well this sure is interesting. Christian family unit = enemy #1 of the NWO

[link to vimeo.com]

Saul Alinsky's 'Rules for Radicals' a communist manifesto which outlines what we see implemented in America today was dedicated to lucifer.

[link to www.amazon.com]

And 9/11 was a mega black magick ritul sacrifice based on the teachings of professed satanist Allister Crowley

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God also lives in a house made of clouds and drinks unicorn milk for breakfast. Sometimes he farts vast violet clouds of misty vapor that smells like sandalwood and vanilla. Occasionally he takes bong hits of pure happiness and chills with his middle aged son. Jesus lives in the basement of the cloudy house, because he lost his job in his 30's and the job market just doesn't really appeal to him anymore. Besides, work was really killing him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31014627


I know you think your cute. You do not offend me one bit. I think A) it's immature, and I think B) the fact that you are making comments like that in a thread about a God you don't believe in speaks volumes, and also fulfills prophecy

But most importantly, the saddest thing is, you are blind/ignorant to the truth, and whether you believe or not at the end of the day you are going to have to stand in front of Him and be judged, and there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, because you blaspheme him. I suggest you fall to your knees and seek forgiveness and ask God to reveal himself to you so you can follow him and find salvation.
 Quoting: Witness for Him


You people actually believe you're right and everyone else is just deluded...
Sad, chidish and completely mind boggling that anyone of even mediocre intellect can believe in what is essentially, nothing more than a fairytale.
I wouldn't fall to my knee's even if he did exist!
For all the shit he's stirred and lives he's ruined he can kiss my ass :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32492173


So apparently you also find it to be just a coincidence that the new world order was prophesied in the Bible? or that the White house is beneath a giant pentagram? or that all high power government leaders worship satan?

Hmm well this sure is interesting. Christian family unit = enemy #1 of the NWO

[link to vimeo.com]

Saul Alinsky's 'Rules for Radicals' a communist manifesto which outlines what we see implemented in America today was dedicated to lucifer.

[link to www.amazon.com]

And 9/11 was a mega black magick ritul sacrifice based on the teachings of professed satanist Allister Crowley

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God also lives in a house made of clouds and drinks unicorn milk for breakfast. Sometimes he farts vast violet clouds of misty vapor that smells like sandalwood and vanilla. Occasionally he takes bong hits of pure happiness and chills with his middle aged son. Jesus lives in the basement of the cloudy house, because he lost his job in his 30's and the job market just doesn't really appeal to him anymore. Besides, work was really killing him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31014627


I know you think your cute. You do not offend me one bit. I think A) it's immature, and I think B) the fact that you are making comments like that in a thread about a God you don't believe in speaks volumes, and also fulfills prophecy

But most importantly, the saddest thing is, you are blind/ignorant to the truth, and whether you believe or not at the end of the day you are going to have to stand in front of Him and be judged, and there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, because you blaspheme him. I suggest you fall to your knees and seek forgiveness and ask God to reveal himself to you so you can follow him and find salvation.
 Quoting: Witness for Him


You people actually believe you're right and everyone else is just deluded...
Sad, chidish and completely mind boggling that anyone of even mediocre intellect can believe in what is essentially, nothing more than a fairytale.
I wouldn't fall to my knee's even if he did exist!
For all the shit he's stirred and lives he's ruined he can kiss my ass :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32492173


So apparently you also find it to be just a coincidence that the new world order was prophesied in the Bible? or that the White house is beneath a giant pentagram? or that all high power government leaders worship satan?

Hmm well this sure is interesting. Christian family unit = enemy #1 of the NWO

[link to vimeo.com]

Saul Alinsky's 'Rules for Radicals' a communist manifesto which outlines what we see implemented in America today was dedicated to lucifer.

[link to www.amazon.com]

And 9/11 was a mega black magick ritul sacrifice based on the teachings of professed satanist Allister Crowley
 Quoting: Witness for Him


Look mate. Your god didn't have to make the devil! He didn't have to create someone who'd oppose him.
And then, he wails like a baby that he has an enemy??
What a complete and utter heap of garbage.
If you'd like to learn something of value from a book...buy a gardening manual :-)
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I know you think your cute. You do not offend me one bit. I think A) it's immature, and I think B) the fact that you are making comments like that in a thread about a God you don't believe in speaks volumes, and also fulfills prophecy

But most importantly, the saddest thing is, you are blind/ignorant to the truth, and whether you believe or not at the end of the day you are going to have to stand in front of Him and be judged, and there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, because you blaspheme him. I suggest you fall to your knees and seek forgiveness and ask God to reveal himself to you so you can follow him and find salvation.
 Quoting: Witness for Him


You people actually believe you're right and everyone else is just deluded...
Sad, chidish and completely mind boggling that anyone of even mediocre intellect can believe in what is essentially, nothing more than a fairytale.
I wouldn't fall to my knee's even if he did exist!
For all the shit he's stirred and lives he's ruined he can kiss my ass :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32492173


So apparently you also find it to be just a coincidence that the new world order was prophesied in the Bible? or that the White house is beneath a giant pentagram? or that all high power government leaders worship satan?

Hmm well this sure is interesting. Christian family unit = enemy #1 of the NWO

[link to vimeo.com]

Saul Alinsky's 'Rules for Radicals' a communist manifesto which outlines what we see implemented in America today was dedicated to lucifer.

[link to www.amazon.com]

And 9/11 was a mega black magick ritul sacrifice based on the teachings of professed satanist Allister Crowley
 Quoting: Witness for Him


Look mate. Your god didn't have to make the devil! He didn't have to create someone who'd oppose him.
And then, he wails like a baby that he has an enemy??
What a complete and utter heap of garbage.
If you'd like to learn something of value from a book...buy a gardening manual :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32492173


Thank you for acknowledging that what I'm saying is the truth, and you have no argument. As far as your reasons for denying Christ and Saying the blasphemous things you did about him, you will have to answer for, and may he deal with you mercifully.
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Few small problems with your theory:

1. Cyclonic energy is at decade level lows - despite media hype about the few hurricanes we've had

2. Earthquakes are technically "up" but only due to better monitoring equipment that allows us to detect ones we would've have noticed before

3. Deaths from wars are at all time lows

4. Violent crime rate has plummeted worldwide and in the US in particular

5. Crop harvests are at all time highs despite media BS about the climate
Witness for Him  (OP)

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Few small problems with your theory:

1. Cyclonic energy is at decade level lows - despite media hype about the few hurricanes we've had

2. Earthquakes are technically "up" but only due to better monitoring equipment that allows us to detect ones we would've have noticed before

3. Deaths from wars are at all time lows

4. Violent crime rate has plummeted worldwide and in the US in particular

5. Crop harvests are at all time highs despite media BS about the climate
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32155267


So apparently you also find it to be just a coincidence that the new world order was prophesied in the Bible? or that the White house is beneath a giant pentagram? or that all high power government leaders worship satan?

Hmm well this sure is interesting. Christian family unit = enemy #1 of the NWO

[link to vimeo.com]

Saul Alinsky's 'Rules for Radicals' a communist manifesto which outlines what we see implemented in America today was dedicated to lucifer.

[link to www.amazon.com]

And 9/11 was a mega black magick ritul sacrifice based on the teachings of professed satanist Allister Crowley

And violent crim rates have plummeted worldwide and the US particular? Not including the School/public random shootings that happen every other week? Not including the fact that more people died from wars/violence in the 20th century then ALL other centuries before combined??

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You people actually believe you're right and everyone else is just deluded...
Sad, chidish and completely mind boggling that anyone of even mediocre intellect can believe in what is essentially, nothing more than a fairytale.
I wouldn't fall to my knee's even if he did exist!
For all the shit he's stirred and lives he's ruined he can kiss my ass :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32492173


So apparently you also find it to be just a coincidence that the new world order was prophesied in the Bible? or that the White house is beneath a giant pentagram? or that all high power government leaders worship satan?

Hmm well this sure is interesting. Christian family unit = enemy #1 of the NWO

[link to vimeo.com]

Saul Alinsky's 'Rules for Radicals' a communist manifesto which outlines what we see implemented in America today was dedicated to lucifer.

[link to www.amazon.com]

And 9/11 was a mega black magick ritul sacrifice based on the teachings of professed satanist Allister Crowley
 Quoting: Witness for Him


Look mate. Your god didn't have to make the devil! He didn't have to create someone who'd oppose him.
And then, he wails like a baby that he has an enemy??
What a complete and utter heap of garbage.
If you'd like to learn something of value from a book...buy a gardening manual :-)
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Thank you for acknowledging that what I'm saying is the truth, and you have no argument. As far as your reasons for denying Christ and Saying the blasphemous things you did about him, you will have to answer for, and may he deal with you mercifully.
 Quoting: Witness for Him


He'd better hope I deal with him mercifully! He's been offed once before...twice can be arranged :-)
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Few small problems with your theory:

1. Cyclonic energy is at decade level lows - despite media hype about the few hurricanes we've had

2. Earthquakes are technically "up" but only due to better monitoring equipment that allows us to detect ones we would've have noticed before

3. Deaths from wars are at all time lows

4. Violent crime rate has plummeted worldwide and in the US in particular

5. Crop harvests are at all time highs despite media BS about the climate
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32155267


So apparently you also find it to be just a coincidence that the new world order was prophesied in the Bible? or that the White house is beneath a giant pentagram? or that all high power government leaders worship satan?

Hmm well this sure is interesting. Christian family unit = enemy #1 of the NWO

[link to vimeo.com]

Saul Alinsky's 'Rules for Radicals' a communist manifesto which outlines what we see implemented in America today was dedicated to lucifer.

[link to www.amazon.com]

And 9/11 was a mega black magick ritul sacrifice based on the teachings of professed satanist Allister Crowley

And violent crim rates have plummeted worldwide and the US particular? Not including the School/public random shootings that happen every other week? Not including the fact that more people died from wars/violence in the 20th century then ALL other centuries before combined??
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Typical Christard - someone disputes your "evidence" and you change the subject.
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"Today, I just wanted to compile some data in order to make an interesting point on the ever so nerve-searing topic of religion versus atheism. Atheism, although not technically a religion, has been called “the fastest growing religion in the history of the United States of America”, but that’s not quite the parading accomplishment that it sounds to be. The thing that people don’t take into account is the frightening fact that the rise of atheism and non-religious beliefs have mirrored the rates at which natural disasters have been occurring. This is what non-believers commonly refer to as an “odd coincidence”, like running into an old classmate at the mall, or a random explosion that somehow magically spawns all life in the universe. However, the odds, probability and likelihood of this being a simple coincidence are not in favor of atheism. Let’s take a look at the three graphs below. You can click the images to enlarge them if they are too small...."

[link to kielandedmonds.wordpress.com]
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There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened.
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So apparently you also find it to be just a coincidence that the new world order was prophesied in the Bible? or that the White house is beneath a giant pentagram? or that all high power government leaders worship satan?

Hmm well this sure is interesting. Christian family unit = enemy #1 of the NWO

[link to vimeo.com]

Saul Alinsky's 'Rules for Radicals' a communist manifesto which outlines what we see implemented in America today was dedicated to lucifer.

[link to www.amazon.com]

And 9/11 was a mega black magick ritul sacrifice based on the teachings of professed satanist Allister Crowley
 Quoting: Witness for Him


Look mate. Your god didn't have to make the devil! He didn't have to create someone who'd oppose him.
And then, he wails like a baby that he has an enemy??
What a complete and utter heap of garbage.
If you'd like to learn something of value from a book...buy a gardening manual :-)
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Thank you for acknowledging that what I'm saying is the truth, and you have no argument. As far as your reasons for denying Christ and Saying the blasphemous things you did about him, you will have to answer for, and may he deal with you mercifully.
 Quoting: Witness for Him


He'd better hope I deal with him mercifully! He's been offed once before...twice can be arranged :-)
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I get the feeling your just being a smart ass. But do you realize that Jesus Died to be an atonement for those who love God, and he didn't have to. He was GOD in the flesh. When he comes back he is going to DESTROY this earth and those who take pleasure in unrighteousness and love not the truth. He gave us all a 'blank check' so to speak, if you don't accept it that's your choice. Nearly everyone has gotten a chance to hear the gospel preached, those who declined will be judged accordingly.

Isaiah 24

New International Version (NIV)
The Lord’s Devastation of the Earth

24 See, the Lord is going to lay waste the earth
and devastate it;
he will ruin its face
and scatter its inhabitants—
2 it will be the same
for priest as for people,
for the master as for his servant,
for the mistress as for her servant,
for seller as for buyer,
for borrower as for lender,
for debtor as for creditor.
3 The earth will be completely laid waste
and totally plundered.
The Lord has spoken this word.

4 The earth dries up and withers,
the world languishes and withers,
the heavens languish with the earth.
5 The earth is defiled by its people;
they have disobeyed the laws,
violated the statutes
and broken the everlasting covenant.
6 Therefore a curse consumes the earth;
its people must bear their guilt.
Therefore earth’s inhabitants are burned up,
and very few are left.
7 The new wine dries up and the vine withers;
all the merrymakers groan.
8 The joyful timbrels are stilled,
the noise of the revelers has stopped,
the joyful harp is silent.
9 No longer do they drink wine with a song;
the beer is bitter to its drinkers.
10 The ruined city lies desolate;
the entrance to every house is barred.
11 In the streets they cry out for wine;
all joy turns to gloom,
all joyful sounds are banished from the earth.
12 The city is left in ruins,
its gate is battered to pieces.
13 So will it be on the earth
and among the nations,
as when an olive tree is beaten,
or as when gleanings are left after the grape harvest.

14 They raise their voices, they shout for joy;
from the west they acclaim the Lord’s majesty.
15 Therefore in the east give glory to the Lord;
exalt the name of the Lord, the God of Israel,
in the islands of the sea.
16 From the ends of the earth we hear singing:
“Glory to the Righteous One.”

But I said, “I waste away, I waste away!
Woe to me!
The treacherous betray!
With treachery the treacherous betray! ”
17 Terror and pit and snare await you,
people of the earth.
18 Whoever flees at the sound of terror
will fall into a pit;
whoever climbs out of the pit
will be caught in a snare.

The floodgates of the heavens are opened,
the foundations of the earth shake.
19 The earth is broken up,
the earth is split asunder,
the earth is violently shaken.
20 The earth reels like a drunkard,
it sways like a hut in the wind;
so heavy upon it is the guilt of its rebellion
that it falls —never to rise again.

21 In that day the Lord will punish
the powers in the heavens above
and the kings on the earth below.
22 They will be herded together
like prisoners bound in a dungeon;
they will be shut up in prison
and be punished[a] after many days.
23 The moon will be dismayed,
the sun ashamed;
for the Lord Almighty will reign
on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem,
and before its elders—with great glory.

Ezekiel 7

New International Version (NIV)
The End Has Come

7 The word of the Lord came to me: 2 “Son of man, this is what the Sovereign Lord says to the land of Israel:

“‘The end! The end has come
upon the four corners of the land!
3 The end is now upon you,
and I will unleash my anger against you.
I will judge you according to your conduct
and repay you for all your detestable practices.
4 I will not look on you with pity;
I will not spare you.
I will surely repay you for your conduct
and for the detestable practices among you.

“‘Then you will know that I am the Lord.’

5 “This is what the Sovereign Lord says:

“‘Disaster! Unheard-of[a] disaster!
See, it comes!
6 The end has come!
The end has come!
It has roused itself against you.
See, it comes!
7 Doom has come upon you,
upon you who dwell in the land.
The time has come! The day is near!
There is panic, not joy, on the mountains.
8 I am about to pour out my wrath on you
and spend my anger against you.
I will judge you according to your conduct
and repay you for all your detestable practices.
9 I will not look on you with pity;
I will not spare you.
I will repay you for your conduct
and for the detestable practices among you.

“‘Then you will know that it is I the Lord who strikes you.

10 “‘See, the day!
See, it comes!
Doom has burst forth,
the rod has budded,
arrogance has blossomed!
11 Violence has arisen,
a rod to punish the wicked.
None of the people will be left,
none of that crowd—
none of their wealth,
nothing of value.
12 The time has come!
The day has arrived!
Let not the buyer rejoice
nor the seller grieve,
for my wrath is on the whole crowd.
13 The seller will not recover
the property that was sold—
as long as both buyer and seller live.
For the vision concerning the whole crowd
will not be reversed.
Because of their sins, not one of them
will preserve their life.

14 “‘They have blown the trumpet,
they have made all things ready,
but no one will go into battle,
for my wrath is on the whole crowd.
15 Outside is the sword;
inside are plague and famine.
Those in the country
will die by the sword;
those in the city
will be devoured by famine and plague.
16 The fugitives who escape
will flee to the mountains.
Like doves of the valleys,
they will all moan,
each for their own sins.
17 Every hand will go limp;
every leg will be wet with urine.
18 They will put on sackcloth
and be clothed with terror.
Every face will be covered with shame,
and every head will be shaved.

19 “‘They will throw their silver into the streets,
and their gold will be treated as a thing unclean.
Their silver and gold
will not be able to deliver them
in the day of the Lord’s wrath.
It will not satisfy their hunger
or fill their stomachs,
for it has caused them to stumble into sin.
20 They took pride in their beautiful jewelry
and used it to make their detestable idols.
They made it into vile images;
therefore I will make it a thing unclean for them.
21 I will give their wealth as plunder to foreigners
and as loot to the wicked of the earth,
who will defile it.
22 I will turn my face away from the people,
and robbers will desecrate the place I treasure.
They will enter it
and will defile it.

23 “‘Prepare chains!
For the land is full of bloodshed,
and the city is full of violence.
24 I will bring the most wicked of nations
to take possession of their houses.
I will put an end to the pride of the mighty,
and their sanctuaries will be desecrated.
25 When terror comes,
they will seek peace in vain.
26 Calamity upon calamity will come,
and rumor upon rumor.
They will go searching for a vision from the prophet,
priestly instruction in the law will cease,
the counsel of the elders will come to an end.
27 The king will mourn,
the prince will be clothed with despair,
and the hands of the people of the land will tremble.
I will deal with them according to their conduct,
and by their own standards I will judge them.

“‘Then they will know that I am the Lord. ’”
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Few small problems with your theory:

1. Cyclonic energy is at decade level lows - despite media hype about the few hurricanes we've had

2. Earthquakes are technically "up" but only due to better monitoring equipment that allows us to detect ones we would've have noticed before

3. Deaths from wars are at all time lows

4. Violent crime rate has plummeted worldwide and in the US in particular

5. Crop harvests are at all time highs despite media BS about the climate
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32155267


So apparently you also find it to be just a coincidence that the new world order was prophesied in the Bible? or that the White house is beneath a giant pentagram? or that all high power government leaders worship satan?

Hmm well this sure is interesting. Christian family unit = enemy #1 of the NWO

[link to vimeo.com]

Saul Alinsky's 'Rules for Radicals' a communist manifesto which outlines what we see implemented in America today was dedicated to lucifer.

[link to www.amazon.com]

And 9/11 was a mega black magick ritul sacrifice based on the teachings of professed satanist Allister Crowley

And violent crim rates have plummeted worldwide and the US particular? Not including the School/public random shootings that happen every other week? Not including the fact that more people died from wars/violence in the 20th century then ALL other centuries before combined??
 Quoting: Witness for Him


Typical Christard - someone disputes your "evidence" and you change the subject.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32155267


Change subject? Refute those facts! they and themselves prove that Jesus Christ is the way the truth.
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Excellent thread, W4H. This study, coupled with historical examples of societies that rejected God like Rome, Babylon, Sodom, and Gomorrah, draws a clear link between Godliness and prosperity, and between wickedness and destruction. If America continues down this dangerous path, it will follow the way of those historical examples, and will surely perish from the Earth. I only pray it is not too late to right the ship and correct it's course...
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Look mate. Your god didn't have to make the devil! He didn't have to create someone who'd oppose him.
And then, he wails like a baby that he has an enemy??
What a complete and utter heap of garbage.
If you'd like to learn something of value from a book...buy a gardening manual :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32492173


Thank you for acknowledging that what I'm saying is the truth, and you have no argument. As far as your reasons for denying Christ and Saying the blasphemous things you did about him, you will have to answer for, and may he deal with you mercifully.
 Quoting: Witness for Him


He'd better hope I deal with him mercifully! He's been offed once before...twice can be arranged :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32492173


I get the feeling your just being a smart ass. But do you realize that Jesus Died to be an atonement for those who love God, and he didn't have to. He was GOD in the flesh. When he comes back he is going to DESTROY this earth and those who take pleasure in unrighteousness and love not the truth. He gave us all a 'blank check' so to speak, if you don't accept it that's your choice. Nearly everyone has gotten a chance to hear the gospel preached, those who declined will be judged accordingly.

Isaiah 24

New International Version (NIV)
The Lord’s Devastation of the Earth

24 See, the Lord is going to lay waste the earth
and devastate it;
he will ruin its face
and scatter its inhabitants—
2 it will be the same
for priest as for people,
for the master as for his servant,
for the mistress as for her servant,
for seller as for buyer,
for borrower as for lender,
for debtor as for creditor.
3 The earth will be completely laid waste
and totally plundered.
The Lord has spoken this word.

4 The earth dries up and withers,
the world languishes and withers,
the heavens languish with the earth.
5 The earth is defiled by its people;
they have disobeyed the laws,
violated the statutes
and broken the everlasting covenant.
6 Therefore a curse consumes the earth;
its people must bear their guilt.
Therefore earth’s inhabitants are burned up,
and very few are left.
7 The new wine dries up and the vine withers;
all the merrymakers groan.
8 The joyful timbrels are stilled,
the noise of the revelers has stopped,
the joyful harp is silent.
9 No longer do they drink wine with a song;
the beer is bitter to its drinkers.
10 The ruined city lies desolate;
the entrance to every house is barred.
11 In the streets they cry out for wine;
all joy turns to gloom,
all joyful sounds are banished from the earth.
12 The city is left in ruins,
its gate is battered to pieces.
13 So will it be on the earth
and among the nations,
as when an olive tree is beaten,
or as when gleanings are left after the grape harvest.

14 They raise their voices, they shout for joy;
from the west they acclaim the Lord’s majesty.
15 Therefore in the east give glory to the Lord;
exalt the name of the Lord, the God of Israel,
in the islands of the sea.
16 From the ends of the earth we hear singing:
“Glory to the Righteous One.”

But I said, “I waste away, I waste away!
Woe to me!
The treacherous betray!
With treachery the treacherous betray! ”
17 Terror and pit and snare await you,
people of the earth.
18 Whoever flees at the sound of terror
will fall into a pit;
whoever climbs out of the pit
will be caught in a snare.

The floodgates of the heavens are opened,
the foundations of the earth shake.
19 The earth is broken up,
the earth is split asunder,
the earth is violently shaken.
20 The earth reels like a drunkard,
it sways like a hut in the wind;
so heavy upon it is the guilt of its rebellion
that it falls —never to rise again.

21 In that day the Lord will punish
the powers in the heavens above
and the kings on the earth below.
22 They will be herded together
like prisoners bound in a dungeon;
they will be shut up in prison
and be punished[a] after many days.
23 The moon will be dismayed,
the sun ashamed;
for the Lord Almighty will reign
on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem,
and before its elders—with great glory.

Ezekiel 7

New International Version (NIV)
The End Has Come

7 The word of the Lord came to me: 2 “Son of man, this is what the Sovereign Lord says to the land of Israel:

“‘The end! The end has come
upon the four corners of the land!
3 The end is now upon you,
and I will unleash my anger against you.
I will judge you according to your conduct
and repay you for all your detestable practices.
4 I will not look on you with pity;
I will not spare you.
I will surely repay you for your conduct
and for the detestable practices among you.

“‘Then you will know that I am the Lord.’

5 “This is what the Sovereign Lord says:

“‘Disaster! Unheard-of[a] disaster!
See, it comes!
6 The end has come!
The end has come!
It has roused itself against you.
See, it comes!
7 Doom has come upon you,
upon you who dwell in the land.
The time has come! The day is near!
There is panic, not joy, on the mountains.
8 I am about to pour out my wrath on you
and spend my anger against you.
I will judge you according to your conduct
and repay you for all your detestable practices.
9 I will not look on you with pity;
I will not spare you.
I will repay you for your conduct
and for the detestable practices among you.

“‘Then you will know that it is I the Lord who strikes you.

10 “‘See, the day!
See, it comes!
Doom has burst forth,
the rod has budded,
arrogance has blossomed!
11 Violence has arisen,
a rod to punish the wicked.
None of the people will be left,
none of that crowd—
none of their wealth,
nothing of value.
12 The time has come!
The day has arrived!
Let not the buyer rejoice
nor the seller grieve,
for my wrath is on the whole crowd.
13 The seller will not recover
the property that was sold—
as long as both buyer and seller live.
For the vision concerning the whole crowd
will not be reversed.
Because of their sins, not one of them
will preserve their life.

14 “‘They have blown the trumpet,
they have made all things ready,
but no one will go into battle,
for my wrath is on the whole crowd.
15 Outside is the sword;
inside are plague and famine.
Those in the country
will die by the sword;
those in the city
will be devoured by famine and plague.
16 The fugitives who escape
will flee to the mountains.
Like doves of the valleys,
they will all moan,
each for their own sins.
17 Every hand will go limp;
every leg will be wet with urine.
18 They will put on sackcloth
and be clothed with terror.
Every face will be covered with shame,
and every head will be shaved.

19 “‘They will throw their silver into the streets,
and their gold will be treated as a thing unclean.
Their silver and gold
will not be able to deliver them
in the day of the Lord’s wrath.
It will not satisfy their hunger
or fill their stomachs,
for it has caused them to stumble into sin.
20 They took pride in their beautiful jewelry
and used it to make their detestable idols.
They made it into vile images;
therefore I will make it a thing unclean for them.
21 I will give their wealth as plunder to foreigners
and as loot to the wicked of the earth,
who will defile it.
22 I will turn my face away from the people,
and robbers will desecrate the place I treasure.
They will enter it
and will defile it.

23 “‘Prepare chains!
For the land is full of bloodshed,
and the city is full of violence.
24 I will bring the most wicked of nations
to take possession of their houses.
I will put an end to the pride of the mighty,
and their sanctuaries will be desecrated.
25 When terror comes,
they will seek peace in vain.
26 Calamity upon calamity will come,
and rumor upon rumor.
They will go searching for a vision from the prophet,
priestly instruction in the law will cease,
the counsel of the elders will come to an end.
27 The king will mourn,
the prince will be clothed with despair,
and the hands of the people of the land will tremble.
I will deal with them according to their conduct,
and by their own standards I will judge them.

“‘Then they will know that I am the Lord. ’”
 Quoting: Witness for Him


look, i'm not an atheist, but these wall o' texts are silly.
very few will read them, and it doesn't scare anyone anymore.
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how on earth are people supposed to comprehend anything about the infinite aspects of god\goddess when:

they have no clue how to define it

they have no clue about spirit and their own divine multi-dimensional nature

when this information is withheld from them since childhood



god\goddess is everywhere as is spirit

it's so obvious when you see and feel

nature is the 1st place to look

the mainstream science and mainstream religion concepts of reality make these things virtually impossible for those who blindly follow them

the catholic church is the biggest disgrace on earth and that is more than self-evident. the others are not that far behind but still nowhere near as evil

a baptism of fire is too much for most people to withstand which is why the subconscious activations will have to do for now

mass conscious awakening coming soon...........
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Excellent thread, W4H. This study, coupled with historical examples of societies that rejected God like Rome, Babylon, Sodom, and Gomorrah, draws a clear link between Godliness and prosperity, and between wickedness and destruction. If America continues down this dangerous path, it will follow the way of those historical examples, and will surely perish from the Earth. I only pray it is not too late to right the ship and correct it's course...
 Quoting: Rising Son


Yup you make good points Rising Son. I pray for this nation, the world at large, and the lost every night. We're definitely at a defining moment.

By the way, the Kid who's blog the OP is taken from is Kieland Edmonds. There's a lot of fantastic articles on his there. His youtube can be found here [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
He's only got a couple videos but they are good.

Peace and blessings
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Thank you for acknowledging that what I'm saying is the truth, and you have no argument. As far as your reasons for denying Christ and Saying the blasphemous things you did about him, you will have to answer for, and may he deal with you mercifully.
 Quoting: Witness for Him


He'd better hope I deal with him mercifully! He's been offed once before...twice can be arranged :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32492173


I get the feeling your just being a smart ass. But do you realize that Jesus Died to be an atonement for those who love God, and he didn't have to. He was GOD in the flesh. When he comes back he is going to DESTROY this earth and those who take pleasure in unrighteousness and love not the truth. He gave us all a 'blank check' so to speak, if you don't accept it that's your choice. Nearly everyone has gotten a chance to hear the gospel preached, those who declined will be judged accordingly.

Isaiah 24

New International Version (NIV)
The Lord’s Devastation of the Earth

24 See, the Lord is going to lay waste the earth
and devastate it;
he will ruin its face
and scatter its inhabitants—
2 it will be the same
for priest as for people,
for the master as for his servant,
for the mistress as for her servant,
for seller as for buyer,
for borrower as for lender,
for debtor as for creditor.
3 The earth will be completely laid waste
and totally plundered.
The Lord has spoken this word.

4 The earth dries up and withers,
the world languishes and withers,
the heavens languish with the earth.
5 The earth is defiled by its people;
they have disobeyed the laws,
violated the statutes
and broken the everlasting covenant.
6 Therefore a curse consumes the earth;
its people must bear their guilt.
Therefore earth’s inhabitants are burned up,
and very few are left.
7 The new wine dries up and the vine withers;
all the merrymakers groan.
8 The joyful timbrels are stilled,
the noise of the revelers has stopped,
the joyful harp is silent.
9 No longer do they drink wine with a song;
the beer is bitter to its drinkers.
10 The ruined city lies desolate;
the entrance to every house is barred.
11 In the streets they cry out for wine;
all joy turns to gloom,
all joyful sounds are banished from the earth.
12 The city is left in ruins,
its gate is battered to pieces.
13 So will it be on the earth
and among the nations,
as when an olive tree is beaten,
or as when gleanings are left after the grape harvest.

14 They raise their voices, they shout for joy;
from the west they acclaim the Lord’s majesty.
15 Therefore in the east give glory to the Lord;
exalt the name of the Lord, the God of Israel,
in the islands of the sea.
16 From the ends of the earth we hear singing:
“Glory to the Righteous One.”

But I said, “I waste away, I waste away!
Woe to me!
The treacherous betray!
With treachery the treacherous betray! ”
17 Terror and pit and snare await you,
people of the earth.
18 Whoever flees at the sound of terror
will fall into a pit;
whoever climbs out of the pit
will be caught in a snare.

The floodgates of the heavens are opened,
the foundations of the earth shake.
19 The earth is broken up,
the earth is split asunder,
the earth is violently shaken.
20 The earth reels like a drunkard,
it sways like a hut in the wind;
so heavy upon it is the guilt of its rebellion
that it falls —never to rise again.

21 In that day the Lord will punish
the powers in the heavens above
and the kings on the earth below.
22 They will be herded together
like prisoners bound in a dungeon;
they will be shut up in prison
and be punished[a] after many days.
23 The moon will be dismayed,
the sun ashamed;
for the Lord Almighty will reign
on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem,
and before its elders—with great glory.

Ezekiel 7

New International Version (NIV)
The End Has Come

7 The word of the Lord came to me: 2 “Son of man, this is what the Sovereign Lord says to the land of Israel:

“‘The end! The end has come
upon the four corners of the land!
3 The end is now upon you,
and I will unleash my anger against you.
I will judge you according to your conduct
and repay you for all your detestable practices.
4 I will not look on you with pity;
I will not spare you.
I will surely repay you for your conduct
and for the detestable practices among you.

“‘Then you will know that I am the Lord.’

5 “This is what the Sovereign Lord says:

“‘Disaster! Unheard-of[a] disaster!
See, it comes!
6 The end has come!
The end has come!
It has roused itself against you.
See, it comes!
7 Doom has come upon you,
upon you who dwell in the land.
The time has come! The day is near!
There is panic, not joy, on the mountains.
8 I am about to pour out my wrath on you
and spend my anger against you.
I will judge you according to your conduct
and repay you for all your detestable practices.
9 I will not look on you with pity;
I will not spare you.
I will repay you for your conduct
and for the detestable practices among you.

“‘Then you will know that it is I the Lord who strikes you.

10 “‘See, the day!
See, it comes!
Doom has burst forth,
the rod has budded,
arrogance has blossomed!
11 Violence has arisen,
a rod to punish the wicked.
None of the people will be left,
none of that crowd—
none of their wealth,
nothing of value.
12 The time has come!
The day has arrived!
Let not the buyer rejoice
nor the seller grieve,
for my wrath is on the whole crowd.
13 The seller will not recover
the property that was sold—
as long as both buyer and seller live.
For the vision concerning the whole crowd
will not be reversed.
Because of their sins, not one of them
will preserve their life.

14 “‘They have blown the trumpet,
they have made all things ready,
but no one will go into battle,
for my wrath is on the whole crowd.
15 Outside is the sword;
inside are plague and famine.
Those in the country
will die by the sword;
those in the city
will be devoured by famine and plague.
16 The fugitives who escape
will flee to the mountains.
Like doves of the valleys,
they will all moan,
each for their own sins.
17 Every hand will go limp;
every leg will be wet with urine.
18 They will put on sackcloth
and be clothed with terror.
Every face will be covered with shame,
and every head will be shaved.

19 “‘They will throw their silver into the streets,
and their gold will be treated as a thing unclean.
Their silver and gold
will not be able to deliver them
in the day of the Lord’s wrath.
It will not satisfy their hunger
or fill their stomachs,
for it has caused them to stumble into sin.
20 They took pride in their beautiful jewelry
and used it to make their detestable idols.
They made it into vile images;
therefore I will make it a thing unclean for them.
21 I will give their wealth as plunder to foreigners
and as loot to the wicked of the earth,
who will defile it.
22 I will turn my face away from the people,
and robbers will desecrate the place I treasure.
They will enter it
and will defile it.

23 “‘Prepare chains!
For the land is full of bloodshed,
and the city is full of violence.
24 I will bring the most wicked of nations
to take possession of their houses.
I will put an end to the pride of the mighty,
and their sanctuaries will be desecrated.
25 When terror comes,
they will seek peace in vain.
26 Calamity upon calamity will come,
and rumor upon rumor.
They will go searching for a vision from the prophet,
priestly instruction in the law will cease,
the counsel of the elders will come to an end.
27 The king will mourn,
the prince will be clothed with despair,
and the hands of the people of the land will tremble.
I will deal with them according to their conduct,
and by their own standards I will judge them.

“‘Then they will know that I am the Lord. ’”
 Quoting: Witness for Him


look, i'm not an atheist, but these wall o' texts are silly.
very few will read them, and it doesn't scare anyone anymore.
 Quoting: david 16910407


Hi David. I did not post those scriptures to invoke fear, rather to show people what God says in advance he is going to do, so people can recognize it when it happens and know his words are true. If someone chooses not to read it, then I guess they aren't truly pursuing the truth with all their heart, and acknowledging that it could be outside of what they define as possible and just reading it with an open mind. They are only cheating themselves.
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Look mate. Your god didn't have to make the devil! He didn't have to create someone who'd oppose him.
And then, he wails like a baby that he has an enemy??
What a complete and utter heap of garbage.
If you'd like to learn something of value from a book...buy a gardening manual :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32492173


Thank you for acknowledging that what I'm saying is the truth, and you have no argument. As far as your reasons for denying Christ and Saying the blasphemous things you did about him, you will have to answer for, and may he deal with you mercifully.
 Quoting: Witness for Him


He'd better hope I deal with him mercifully! He's been offed once before...twice can be arranged :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32492173


I get the feeling your just being a smart ass. But do you realize that Jesus Died to be an atonement for those who love God, and he didn't have to. He was GOD in the flesh. When he comes back he is going to DESTROY this earth and those who take pleasure in unrighteousness and love not the truth. He gave us all a 'blank check' so to speak, if you don't accept it that's your choice. Nearly everyone has gotten a chance to hear the gospel preached, those who declined will be judged accordingly.

Isaiah 24

New International Version (NIV)
The Lord’s Devastation of the Earth

24 See, the Lord is going to lay waste the earth
and devastate it;
he will ruin its face
and scatter its inhabitants—
2 it will be the same
for priest as for people,
for the master as for his servant,
for the mistress as for her servant,
for seller as for buyer,
for borrower as for lender,
for debtor as for creditor.
3 The earth will be completely laid waste
and totally plundered.
The Lord has spoken this word.

4 The earth dries up and withers,
the world languishes and withers,
the heavens languish with the earth.
5 The earth is defiled by its people;
they have disobeyed the laws,
violated the statutes
and broken the everlasting covenant.
6 Therefore a curse consumes the earth;
its people must bear their guilt.
Therefore earth’s inhabitants are burned up,
and very few are left.
7 The new wine dries up and the vine withers;
all the merrymakers groan.
8 The joyful timbrels are stilled,
the noise of the revelers has stopped,
the joyful harp is silent.
9 No longer do they drink wine with a song;
the beer is bitter to its drinkers.
10 The ruined city lies desolate;
the entrance to every house is barred.
11 In the streets they cry out for wine;
all joy turns to gloom,
all joyful sounds are banished from the earth.
12 The city is left in ruins,
its gate is battered to pieces.
13 So will it be on the earth
and among the nations,
as when an olive tree is beaten,
or as when gleanings are left after the grape harvest.

14 They raise their voices, they shout for joy;
from the west they acclaim the Lord’s majesty.
15 Therefore in the east give glory to the Lord;
exalt the name of the Lord, the God of Israel,
in the islands of the sea.
16 From the ends of the earth we hear singing:
“Glory to the Righteous One.”

But I said, “I waste away, I waste away!
Woe to me!
The treacherous betray!
With treachery the treacherous betray! ”
17 Terror and pit and snare await you,
people of the earth.
18 Whoever flees at the sound of terror
will fall into a pit;
whoever climbs out of the pit
will be caught in a snare.

The floodgates of the heavens are opened,
the foundations of the earth shake.
19 The earth is broken up,
the earth is split asunder,
the earth is violently shaken.
20 The earth reels like a drunkard,
it sways like a hut in the wind;
so heavy upon it is the guilt of its rebellion
that it falls —never to rise again.

21 In that day the Lord will punish
the powers in the heavens above
and the kings on the earth below.
22 They will be herded together
like prisoners bound in a dungeon;
they will be shut up in prison
and be punished[a] after many days.
23 The moon will be dismayed,
the sun ashamed;
for the Lord Almighty will reign
on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem,
and before its elders—with great glory.

Ezekiel 7

New International Version (NIV)
The End Has Come

7 The word of the Lord came to me: 2 “Son of man, this is what the Sovereign Lord says to the land of Israel:

“‘The end! The end has come
upon the four corners of the land!
3 The end is now upon you,
and I will unleash my anger against you.
I will judge you according to your conduct
and repay you for all your detestable practices.
4 I will not look on you with pity;
I will not spare you.
I will surely repay you for your conduct
and for the detestable practices among you.

“‘Then you will know that I am the Lord.’

5 “This is what the Sovereign Lord says:

“‘Disaster! Unheard-of[a] disaster!
See, it comes!
6 The end has come!
The end has come!
It has roused itself against you.
See, it comes!
7 Doom has come upon you,
upon you who dwell in the land.
The time has come! The day is near!
There is panic, not joy, on the mountains.
8 I am about to pour out my wrath on you
and spend my anger against you.
I will judge you according to your conduct
and repay you for all your detestable practices.
9 I will not look on you with pity;
I will not spare you.
I will repay you for your conduct
and for the detestable practices among you.

“‘Then you will know that it is I the Lord who strikes you.

10 “‘See, the day!
See, it comes!
Doom has burst forth,
the rod has budded,
arrogance has blossomed!
11 Violence has arisen,
a rod to punish the wicked.
None of the people will be left,
none of that crowd—
none of their wealth,
nothing of value.
12 The time has come!
The day has arrived!
Let not the buyer rejoice
nor the seller grieve,
for my wrath is on the whole crowd.
13 The seller will not recover
the property that was sold—
as long as both buyer and seller live.
For the vision concerning the whole crowd
will not be reversed.
Because of their sins, not one of them
will preserve their life.

14 “‘They have blown the trumpet,
they have made all things ready,
but no one will go into battle,
for my wrath is on the whole crowd.
15 Outside is the sword;
inside are plague and famine.
Those in the country
will die by the sword;
those in the city
will be devoured by famine and plague.
16 The fugitives who escape
will flee to the mountains.
Like doves of the valleys,
they will all moan,
each for their own sins.
17 Every hand will go limp;
every leg will be wet with urine.
18 They will put on sackcloth
and be clothed with terror.
Every face will be covered with shame,
and every head will be shaved.

19 “‘They will throw their silver into the streets,
and their gold will be treated as a thing unclean.
Their silver and gold
will not be able to deliver them
in the day of the Lord’s wrath.
It will not satisfy their hunger
or fill their stomachs,
for it has caused them to stumble into sin.
20 They took pride in their beautiful jewelry
and used it to make their detestable idols.
They made it into vile images;
therefore I will make it a thing unclean for them.
21 I will give their wealth as plunder to foreigners
and as loot to the wicked of the earth,
who will defile it.
22 I will turn my face away from the people,
and robbers will desecrate the place I treasure.
They will enter it
and will defile it.

23 “‘Prepare chains!
For the land is full of bloodshed,
and the city is full of violence.
24 I will bring the most wicked of nations
to take possession of their houses.
I will put an end to the pride of the mighty,
and their sanctuaries will be desecrated.
25 When terror comes,
they will seek peace in vain.
26 Calamity upon calamity will come,
and rumor upon rumor.
They will go searching for a vision from the prophet,
priestly instruction in the law will cease,
the counsel of the elders will come to an end.
27 The king will mourn,
the prince will be clothed with despair,
and the hands of the people of the land will tremble.
I will deal with them according to their conduct,
and by their own standards I will judge them.

“‘Then they will know that I am the Lord. ’”
 Quoting: Witness for Him


Allow me to quietly explain something to you :-)
There are people like me who do not believe in jesus, god, allah, thor, odin or any other god.
And many of these people are like me, ordinary, hardworking, decent citizens.

We love our children, work hard to provide for our family's, respect those who deserve respect, don't steal, rape, murder or harm anyone.
We are kind, sympathetic, honest and likeable...we just don't believe in a god.

I know it's hard for you to understand this, but it's true. As far as I am concerned there is simply no point in professing a belief in something unprovable and therefore by logic, non-existent.

Religion is often a mantle of goodness for those who are themselbes not inherantly good or decent.
It's abadge that says 'I'm a nice, honest, decent guy because I believe in a story about a nice, decent, honest guy'.

I require no belief in what might be in order to do the right thing!
And if by some magical occurrence your 'god' should exist, and he condemns me to hellfire eternally for simply not believing in him sans evidence and in spite of me being a good human being...then he is indeed a sad and egotistical bastard and I would want no part of him or his 'paradise'.

:-)
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Few small problems with your theory:

1. Cyclonic energy is at decade level lows - despite media hype about the few hurricanes we've had

2. Earthquakes are technically "up" but only due to better monitoring equipment that allows us to detect ones we would've have noticed before

3. Deaths from wars are at all time lows

4. Violent crime rate has plummeted worldwide and in the US in particular

5. Crop harvests are at all time highs despite media BS about the climate
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I don't understand how you are capable of making statements to refute the OP's theory without backing up your claims. Are you not guilty of the same thing you now accuse him of?

About your statements:

1. The weather extremes around the world are increasing at an alarming rate, and they are often pointed out and discussed on this site. Record heat, record cold, stronger hurricanes/typhoons, increased quantity of tornadoes, drought, flooding, etc.

2. Not only is the rate of earthquakes rising, but the severity is increasing as well. This is also something that is well documented and discussed on this site.

3. While death from war may be declining, death rates in general are not, and the rate of those deaths occurring from health problems such as cancer, heart disease, and addiction are the most notable categories of growth.

4. I do not know how you can claim this and ignore what is happening in Syria and Africa, what is happening in many Arab countries, and what continues to happen in Africa. Your statement is simply incorrect.

5. Crop harvests are not at all time highs, only the efficiency of companies that are designed to improve their productivity for an increasing demand in the market. What you will find is that the harvest has no where near kept pace with the increase in demand, and this has surfaced in rising food prices and decreased international aid to third world countries.

So - I caution you to refrain from statements that you cannot adequately represent, and I implore you to recognize the clear signs that God is showing America - if we do not change our ways, God will change our future by ending it.
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Excellent thread, W4H. This study, coupled with historical examples of societies that rejected God like Rome, Babylon, Sodom, and Gomorrah, draws a clear link between Godliness and prosperity, and between wickedness and destruction. If America continues down this dangerous path, it will follow the way of those historical examples, and will surely perish from the Earth. I only pray it is not too late to right the ship and correct it's course...
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So you're saying the Romans did not believe in God(s)??? How did you arrive at that conclusion?

hmm
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Thank you for acknowledging that what I'm saying is the truth, and you have no argument. As far as your reasons for denying Christ and Saying the blasphemous things you did about him, you will have to answer for, and may he deal with you mercifully.
 Quoting: Witness for Him


He'd better hope I deal with him mercifully! He's been offed once before...twice can be arranged :-)
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I get the feeling your just being a smart ass. But do you realize that Jesus Died to be an atonement for those who love God, and he didn't have to. He was GOD in the flesh. When he comes back he is going to DESTROY this earth and those who take pleasure in unrighteousness and love not the truth. He gave us all a 'blank check' so to speak, if you don't accept it that's your choice. Nearly everyone has gotten a chance to hear the gospel preached, those who declined will be judged accordingly.

Isaiah 24

New International Version (NIV)
The Lord’s Devastation of the Earth

24 See, the Lord is going to lay waste the earth
and devastate it;
he will ruin its face
and scatter its inhabitants—
2 it will be the same
for priest as for people,
for the master as for his servant,
for the mistress as for her servant,
for seller as for buyer,
for borrower as for lender,
for debtor as for creditor.
3 The earth will be completely laid waste
and totally plundered.
The Lord has spoken this word.

4 The earth dries up and withers,
the world languishes and withers,
the heavens languish with the earth.
5 The earth is defiled by its people;
they have disobeyed the laws,
violated the statutes
and broken the everlasting covenant.
6 Therefore a curse consumes the earth;
its people must bear their guilt.
Therefore earth’s inhabitants are burned up,
and very few are left.
7 The new wine dries up and the vine withers;
all the merrymakers groan.
8 The joyful timbrels are stilled,
the noise of the revelers has stopped,
the joyful harp is silent.
9 No longer do they drink wine with a song;
the beer is bitter to its drinkers.
10 The ruined city lies desolate;
the entrance to every house is barred.
11 In the streets they cry out for wine;
all joy turns to gloom,
all joyful sounds are banished from the earth.
12 The city is left in ruins,
its gate is battered to pieces.
13 So will it be on the earth
and among the nations,
as when an olive tree is beaten,
or as when gleanings are left after the grape harvest.

14 They raise their voices, they shout for joy;
from the west they acclaim the Lord’s majesty.
15 Therefore in the east give glory to the Lord;
exalt the name of the Lord, the God of Israel,
in the islands of the sea.
16 From the ends of the earth we hear singing:
“Glory to the Righteous One.”

But I said, “I waste away, I waste away!
Woe to me!
The treacherous betray!
With treachery the treacherous betray! ”
17 Terror and pit and snare await you,
people of the earth.
18 Whoever flees at the sound of terror
will fall into a pit;
whoever climbs out of the pit
will be caught in a snare.

The floodgates of the heavens are opened,
the foundations of the earth shake.
19 The earth is broken up,
the earth is split asunder,
the earth is violently shaken.
20 The earth reels like a drunkard,
it sways like a hut in the wind;
so heavy upon it is the guilt of its rebellion
that it falls —never to rise again.

21 In that day the Lord will punish
the powers in the heavens above
and the kings on the earth below.
22 They will be herded together
like prisoners bound in a dungeon;
they will be shut up in prison
and be punished[a] after many days.
23 The moon will be dismayed,
the sun ashamed;
for the Lord Almighty will reign
on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem,
and before its elders—with great glory.

Ezekiel 7

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The End Has Come

7 The word of the Lord came to me: 2 “Son of man, this is what the Sovereign Lord says to the land of Israel:

“‘The end! The end has come
upon the four corners of the land!
3 The end is now upon you,
and I will unleash my anger against you.
I will judge you according to your conduct
and repay you for all your detestable practices.
4 I will not look on you with pity;
I will not spare you.
I will surely repay you for your conduct
and for the detestable practices among you.

“‘Then you will know that I am the Lord.’

5 “This is what the Sovereign Lord says:

“‘Disaster! Unheard-of[a] disaster!
See, it comes!
6 The end has come!
The end has come!
It has roused itself against you.
See, it comes!
7 Doom has come upon you,
upon you who dwell in the land.
The time has come! The day is near!
There is panic, not joy, on the mountains.
8 I am about to pour out my wrath on you
and spend my anger against you.
I will judge you according to your conduct
and repay you for all your detestable practices.
9 I will not look on you with pity;
I will not spare you.
I will repay you for your conduct
and for the detestable practices among you.

“‘Then you will know that it is I the Lord who strikes you.

10 “‘See, the day!
See, it comes!
Doom has burst forth,
the rod has budded,
arrogance has blossomed!
11 Violence has arisen,
a rod to punish the wicked.
None of the people will be left,
none of that crowd—
none of their wealth,
nothing of value.
12 The time has come!
The day has arrived!
Let not the buyer rejoice
nor the seller grieve,
for my wrath is on the whole crowd.
13 The seller will not recover
the property that was sold—
as long as both buyer and seller live.
For the vision concerning the whole crowd
will not be reversed.
Because of their sins, not one of them
will preserve their life.

14 “‘They have blown the trumpet,
they have made all things ready,
but no one will go into battle,
for my wrath is on the whole crowd.
15 Outside is the sword;
inside are plague and famine.
Those in the country
will die by the sword;
those in the city
will be devoured by famine and plague.
16 The fugitives who escape
will flee to the mountains.
Like doves of the valleys,
they will all moan,
each for their own sins.
17 Every hand will go limp;
every leg will be wet with urine.
18 They will put on sackcloth
and be clothed with terror.
Every face will be covered with shame,
and every head will be shaved.

19 “‘They will throw their silver into the streets,
and their gold will be treated as a thing unclean.
Their silver and gold
will not be able to deliver them
in the day of the Lord’s wrath.
It will not satisfy their hunger
or fill their stomachs,
for it has caused them to stumble into sin.
20 They took pride in their beautiful jewelry
and used it to make their detestable idols.
They made it into vile images;
therefore I will make it a thing unclean for them.
21 I will give their wealth as plunder to foreigners
and as loot to the wicked of the earth,
who will defile it.
22 I will turn my face away from the people,
and robbers will desecrate the place I treasure.
They will enter it
and will defile it.

23 “‘Prepare chains!
For the land is full of bloodshed,
and the city is full of violence.
24 I will bring the most wicked of nations
to take possession of their houses.
I will put an end to the pride of the mighty,
and their sanctuaries will be desecrated.
25 When terror comes,
they will seek peace in vain.
26 Calamity upon calamity will come,
and rumor upon rumor.
They will go searching for a vision from the prophet,
priestly instruction in the law will cease,
the counsel of the elders will come to an end.
27 The king will mourn,
the prince will be clothed with despair,
and the hands of the people of the land will tremble.
I will deal with them according to their conduct,
and by their own standards I will judge them.

“‘Then they will know that I am the Lord. ’”
 Quoting: Witness for Him


Allow me to quietly explain something to you :-)
There are people like me who do not believe in jesus, god, allah, thor, odin or any other god.
And many of these people are like me, ordinary, hardworking, decent citizens.

We love our children, work hard to provide for our family's, respect those who deserve respect, don't steal, rape, murder or harm anyone.
We are kind, sympathetic, honest and likeable...we just don't believe in a god.

I know it's hard for you to understand this, but it's true. As far as I am concerned there is simply no point in professing a belief in something unprovable and therefore by logic, non-existent.

Religion is often a mantle of goodness for those who are themselbes not inherantly good or decent.
It's abadge that says 'I'm a nice, honest, decent guy because I believe in a story about a nice, decent, honest guy'.

I require no belief in what might be in order to do the right thing!
And if by some magical occurrence your 'god' should exist, and he condemns me to hellfire eternally for simply not believing in him sans evidence and in spite of me being a good human being...then he is indeed a sad and egotistical bastard and I would want no part of him or his 'paradise'.

:-)
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God commands that we love even those who spitefully use us, steal from us, everybody. Let me try and explain why we ALL need a saviour no matter how good we THINK we are.

Because God is a holy and righteous God, and because he loves his creation, he has certain characteristics. First of all we have ALL fallen short of the glory of God as he is perfect and exists eternally. This goes all the way back to the beginning of creation, when man existed in harmony in God's presence, and chose to disobey God's admonishment to live a life that resulted in peace/love/harmony. God's way is the only way that produces peace and love, and the history of man is a testimony of this with all of his wars and destruction of the planet etc. If you've looked at a man/woman and lusted you've committed adultery, if you've ever felt contempt towards someone you've had the spirit of murder, if you've stolen even a penny, to a paperclip, if you've ever been jealous, if you've ever coveted money, video games, anything for that matter above God, if you've had pride and excessive love and admiration of self, you've fallen short of the glory of God's righteousness and sinned. (obviously we all have)

Because God is just, when we stand before him, he must judge us accordingly, he couldn't be just and at the same time let us get away with our sins, it'd be like, for example, standing in front of a judge on charges of rape and being like "yeah I did rape that woman, but, but usually I hold doors open for women, and now days I wouldn't do something like that, and I want to help women out, etc." As a just Judge, he would have to sentence us based on the rape crime, or he would lose his job, and criminals could just do whatever they want.

So basically we have two options, either we pay for our sins with our eternal destruction, or we accept the free offering of his son Jesus Christ, who payed for our sins. (basically because we are so full of sin, its analogous to our bodies being a full cup, the sin being the contents thereof, and the only way to remove contents (sin), is to pour them into an empty cup, hence Jesus Christ had no sin. This is because God cannot accept man's perverted ways into his kingdom. God is actually EXTREMELY loving, that he has offered mankind a free gift of salvation though none of us deserve it.

And even if you think oh well I'm here and I never wanted to be, you have still been blessed mightily and could live in a dictatorship, without running water/electricity etc, constantly fearing for your life, born with deformities, disease, a life full of ridicule, etc. etc.
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Excellent thread, W4H. This study, coupled with historical examples of societies that rejected God like Rome, Babylon, Sodom, and Gomorrah, draws a clear link between Godliness and prosperity, and between wickedness and destruction. If America continues down this dangerous path, it will follow the way of those historical examples, and will surely perish from the Earth. I only pray it is not too late to right the ship and correct it's course...
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So you're saying the Romans did not believe in God(s)??? How did you arrive at that conclusion?

hmm
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No, they rejected the ONLY God who matters, who created heaven and earth. Jehovah God.
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Excellent thread, W4H. This study, coupled with historical examples of societies that rejected God like Rome, Babylon, Sodom, and Gomorrah, draws a clear link between Godliness and prosperity, and between wickedness and destruction. If America continues down this dangerous path, it will follow the way of those historical examples, and will surely perish from the Earth. I only pray it is not too late to right the ship and correct it's course...
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Yup you make good points Rising Son. I pray for this nation, the world at large, and the lost every night. We're definitely at a defining moment.

By the way, the Kid who's blog the OP is taken from is Kieland Edmonds. There's a lot of fantastic articles on his there. His youtube can be found here [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
He's only got a couple videos but they are good.

Peace and blessings
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Thank you, I will check those out. Please keep up the Lord's work, you are truly one of His best servants, and you can be assured that He is pleased with you :-)
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I simply believe in one less god than you my friend :-)
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Excellent thread, W4H. This study, coupled with historical examples of societies that rejected God like Rome, Babylon, Sodom, and Gomorrah, draws a clear link between Godliness and prosperity, and between wickedness and destruction. If America continues down this dangerous path, it will follow the way of those historical examples, and will surely perish from the Earth. I only pray it is not too late to right the ship and correct it's course...
 Quoting: Rising Son


So you're saying the Romans did not believe in God(s)??? How did you arrive at that conclusion?

hmm
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Why do you so consistently twist my words and try to ridicule me? What I said was that the Romans rejected God - the one true God - and they did so by disobeying His laws, and descending into iniquity and wickedness.
"Be still, and know that I am God." Psalm 46:10

Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.

Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

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Excellent thread, W4H. This study, coupled with historical examples of societies that rejected God like Rome, Babylon, Sodom, and Gomorrah, draws a clear link between Godliness and prosperity, and between wickedness and destruction. If America continues down this dangerous path, it will follow the way of those historical examples, and will surely perish from the Earth. I only pray it is not too late to right the ship and correct it's course...
 Quoting: Rising Son


So you're saying the Romans did not believe in God(s)??? How did you arrive at that conclusion?

hmm
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No, they rejected the ONLY God who matters, who created heaven and earth. Jehovah God.
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How did you determine that there is only one conceptualization of 'God' that matters?

I have some questions for you.

If you had been born 3000 years ago, which 'God' would you have worshipped?

If you had been born 4000 years ago, which 'God' would you have worshipped?

If you had been born 5000 years ago, which 'God' would you have worshipped?

hmm
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Don’t you mean that you respond to atheism; Not God?

Why do you christards play games and lie?





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