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How did you determine that there is only one conceptualization of 'God' that matters?

I have some questions for you.

If you had been born 3000 years ago, which 'God' would you have worshipped?

If you had been born 4000 years ago, which 'God' would you have worshipped?

If you had been born 5000 years ago, which 'God' would you have worshipped?

hmm
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Depends, even before Jesus Christ was born, God worked with people individually, so even if one was born into a particular religion or demographic, doesn't necessarily mean anything. God looks for certain Characteristics when choosing people to work with and can accomplish anything.
 Quoting: Witness for Him


You're not answering the question though friend. What would you have called 'God' before the word 'Jehovah' had even existed or been known?
What if you had lived during the times of ancient Greece or ancient Egypt??? Sumeria?

Which God or Gods would you have praised if you lived during these civilizations where there were many different conceptualizations/understandings of God(s)?

You said Jehovah is the only God that matters so does that mean if you lived during a time in history before his name was even known that you would have been praying to fake/false God(s)???

hmm
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Well first of all what your asking is rhetorical and I have know way of knowing because I am not God. But I will tell you this. God is a God of Spirit, and even if you didn't know his name, or lived/brought up in a culture that worshiped other Gods, if it were within his will, he would make himself known to you through his Spirit and through circumstances, miracles, speaking etc. Just take for instance Moses. He was raised in Egyptian royalty under pharaoh and worshiped their God's but was shown the real God through divine revelation. I can also tell you that I was not looking for God myself, I was called out of the world, by being shown signs and wonders, and I had to make a choice follow him and seek change in my lifestyle, or continue the path I was going and reject.
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I completely agree with you regarding the bolded, that's why I was questioning your comment regarding 'Jehovah' being the 'only true God'. I was trying to highlight the point that if you or I had lived during a different time in human civilization, we would have different names for God(s) and subscribe to different conceptualizations that were influenced by and a product of the times we were living in. With this understanding, and I think we both agree, we would be doing ourselves a disservice if we placed our focus/emphasis on minute details, names, specifics etc., and lost sight of the fact that it is indeed the very act of conceptualizing a 'higher power' that holds significance and creates a common bond between individuals who are separated by both time and different cultural influences.

cheers
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Depends, even before Jesus Christ was born, God worked with people individually, so even if one was born into a particular religion or demographic, doesn't necessarily mean anything. God looks for certain Characteristics when choosing people to work with and can accomplish anything.
 Quoting: Witness for Him


You're not answering the question though friend. What would you have called 'God' before the word 'Jehovah' had even existed or been known?
What if you had lived during the times of ancient Greece or ancient Egypt??? Sumeria?

Which God or Gods would you have praised if you lived during these civilizations where there were many different conceptualizations/understandings of God(s)?

You said Jehovah is the only God that matters so does that mean if you lived during a time in history before his name was even known that you would have been praying to fake/false God(s)???

hmm
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Well first of all what your asking is rhetorical and I have know way of knowing because I am not God. But I will tell you this. God is a God of Spirit, and even if you didn't know his name, or lived/brought up in a culture that worshiped other Gods, if it were within his will, he would make himself known to you through his Spirit and through circumstances, miracles, speaking etc. Just take for instance Moses. He was raised in Egyptian royalty under pharaoh and worshiped their God's but was shown the real God through divine revelation. I can also tell you that I was not looking for God myself, I was called out of the world, by being shown signs and wonders, and I had to make a choice follow him and seek change in my lifestyle, or continue the path I was going and reject.
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I completely agree with you regarding the bolded, that's why I was questioning your comment regarding 'Jehovah' being the 'only true God'. I was trying to highlight the point that if you or I had lived during a different time in human civilization, we would have different names for God(s) and subscribe to different conceptualizations that were influenced by and a product of the times we were living in. With this understanding, and I think we both agree, we would be doing ourselves a disservice if we placed our focus/emphasis on minute details, names, specifics etc., and lost sight of the fact that it is indeed the very act of conceptualizing a 'higher power' that holds significance and creates a common bond between individuals who are separated by both time and different cultural influences.

cheers
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Yes, I definitely agree with you about the name per se not being what's important! But the key point is, there is only one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Jesus Christ. Those that never had a chance to know him will be judged accordingly, as God is absolutely beyond just and fair.

cheers

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why jesus?
i can accept that there's a higher form of whatever which/who is all around us and inside us...but jesus would reduce it to christianity AGAIN.
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Because Jesus is the only way. The proof is in the pudding. Try saying that prayer. Read the gospel according to John and see how it makes you feel. The one way that the Bible can be distinguished as the Word of the one and only God, that makes it unique, is the prophecy that's contained in the Bible. It's been correct 100% historically and prophetically 100% of the time.

There is only ONE God, either you reject him, and his Son who he sent for your salvation and pay for your shortcomings of Glory with your eternal destruction, or you embrace it and accept the free gift.
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in other words...you have to be a christian to gain salvation and there is no other way to have a connection to god.
that's why i don't like religion
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If we consider the very definition of 'Truth' in context to religion, there can only be ONE. Either new age is right (many ways to God) atheism's right (religion of evolution/bigbang) or one of the various world religions is right. They can't all be right, only one can be.

I'm sorry if you don't like it, but I promise you it's the truth, and I've tried my very best to share it with you, what you do with what I've given you is your choice. And If you tell me your name I'd be more than happy to pray for you.
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Maybe they all mean the same without knowing or admitting it.
They all can be true
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God kills babies.

Would you be considered a bad parent if you drowned your children?
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God kills babies.

Would you be considered a bad parent if you drowned your children?
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God saved those babies, the young and innocent go right to God without pain. He ultimately saved them from bondage and suffering in the egyptian system. You gotta look at the Big Picture, God is merciful, loving and just and has an EPIC plan for those who love them and those he deems worthy.
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Depends, even before Jesus Christ was born, God worked with people individually, so even if one was born into a particular religion or demographic, doesn't necessarily mean anything. God looks for certain Characteristics when choosing people to work with and can accomplish anything.
 Quoting: Witness for Him


You're not answering the question though friend. What would you have called 'God' before the word 'Jehovah' had even existed or been known?
What if you had lived during the times of ancient Greece or ancient Egypt??? Sumeria?

Which God or Gods would you have praised if you lived during these civilizations where there were many different conceptualizations/understandings of God(s)?

You said Jehovah is the only God that matters so does that mean if you lived during a time in history before his name was even known that you would have been praying to fake/false God(s)???

hmm
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Well first of all what your asking is rhetorical and I have know way of knowing because I am not God. But I will tell you this. God is a God of Spirit, and even if you didn't know his name, or lived/brought up in a culture that worshiped other Gods, if it were within his will, he would make himself known to you through his Spirit and through circumstances, miracles, speaking etc. Just take for instance Moses. He was raised in Egyptian royalty under pharaoh and worshiped their God's but was shown the real God through divine revelation. I can also tell you that I was not looking for God myself, I was called out of the world, by being shown signs and wonders, and I had to make a choice follow him and seek change in my lifestyle, or continue the path I was going and reject.
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I completely agree with you regarding the bolded, that's why I was questioning your comment regarding 'Jehovah' being the 'only true God'. I was trying to highlight the point that if you or I had lived during a different time in human civilization, we would have different names for God(s) and subscribe to different conceptualizations that were influenced by and a product of the times we were living in. With this understanding, and I think we both agree, we would be doing ourselves a disservice if we placed our focus/emphasis on minute details, names, specifics etc., and lost sight of the fact that it is indeed the very act of conceptualizing a 'higher power' that holds significance and creates a common bond between individuals who are separated by both time and different cultural influences.

cheers
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Hey man check this out:

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Because Jesus is the only way. The proof is in the pudding. Try saying that prayer. Read the gospel according to John and see how it makes you feel. The one way that the Bible can be distinguished as the Word of the one and only God, that makes it unique, is the prophecy that's contained in the Bible. It's been correct 100% historically and prophetically 100% of the time.

There is only ONE God, either you reject him, and his Son who he sent for your salvation and pay for your shortcomings of Glory with your eternal destruction, or you embrace it and accept the free gift.
 Quoting: Witness for Him


in other words...you have to be a christian to gain salvation and there is no other way to have a connection to god.
that's why i don't like religion
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32494902


If we consider the very definition of 'Truth' in context to religion, there can only be ONE. Either new age is right (many ways to God) atheism's right (religion of evolution/bigbang) or one of the various world religions is right. They can't all be right, only one can be.

I'm sorry if you don't like it, but I promise you it's the truth, and I've tried my very best to share it with you, what you do with what I've given you is your choice. And If you tell me your name I'd be more than happy to pray for you.
 Quoting: Witness for Him


Maybe they all mean the same without knowing or admitting it.
They all can be true
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No that is not the definition of truth. There can be multiple sides to story, but there is only ONE truth. Jesus Christ is the only way. Take it or leave it friend.

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Why do you so consistently twist my words and try to ridicule me? What I said was that the Romans rejected God - the one true God - and they did so by disobeying His laws, and descending into iniquity and wickedness.
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I'm not twisting your words and I'm certainly not attempting to ridicule you. I asked you a follow up question to better understand your comment. You said the civilization of Rome rejected 'God' and this is not my understanding. Are you suggesting the citizens of the Roman empire did not believe in deities and a higher power overseeing/influencing human civilization???

I'm asking you to clarify. Geez....
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


If I was mistaken about your intentions, I apologize. I cannot hear your voice inflection nor see your face, so it is very difficult to understand your intentions on an internet forum. I am sorry for assuming.

No - the Roman Empire did not collapse simply because they did not believe in the correct God, the Empire collapsed due to their departure from the ways of God. They descended into immorality and sin, and God was watching.
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No worries man. I am just a fan of honest/intelligent discussion and enjoy asking both myself and others questions that challenge our understanding of things. I enjoy some of your posts because you are a critical thinker. I thought you were spot on in your thread regarding 'sin' and the nature of the ability to exercise empathy, even though you caught some flack by some users for asking difficult/important questions. I aslo left you some feedback/advice in one of your recent threads when you asked a question concerning Mormonism.

Regarding the topic at hand. I'm of the opinion that the reasons societies decline are not because God intervenes and destroys them, but because of the actions of the ruling parties/elite. They over-extend their civilizations beyond their capacity in an effort to sustain their greed for power & control and this ultimately leads to their decline & demise. This is a reoccuring theme throughout history. But I think it's important to note that it is the few who hold power that make the decisions that affect the masses. The lower/middle classes of these times could be the most honest and God-loving humans in the society and they would still be subject to the whim and control/decisions of those who hold power. So it's very difficult to generalize that the people of these civilizations had fallen away from God and basic humanity when we can see how Kings/Monarchs and ruling parties were manipulating society and dictating the affairs/conflicts/wars that contributed to their downfall.

To me the situation is analogous to what we're faced with today. It doesn't matter how you nor I feel about God as what we see transpiring around us is a product of the rulers of our governments and we have little to no influence over the events that unfold around us. Would it be accurate for people a couple thousand years from now to look back and conclude that the people of our day (which include you and I) had fallen away from God and that was the reason for the demise of our society? Or would it be more accurate to attribute the cause to the insatiable need for power & control by the ruling elite???hmm
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And who gave the Church the authority to usurp the power and authority away from the true kings of the earth and to have the Pope to self appoint a puppet king to royal power?

It wasn’t god!!!

The Church is a lie!
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understand who you are and why you think you need religion
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[link to www.eckharttolle.com]
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I'm familiar with eckhart tolle, I read his book the power of now. And I'm not saying there isn't valuble information in his teachings but at the end of the day It is new age, and it leaves Jesus Christ out of the picture, And it will not save your soul from destruction. I've given you everything I can, It's between you and God now.
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Thread: Eckhart Tolle NWO MASS BRAINWASHING ON OPRAH
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I'm familiar with eckhart tolle, I read his book the power of now. And I'm not saying there isn't valuble information in his teachings but at the end of the day It is new age, and it leaves Jesus Christ out of the picture, And it will not save your soul from destruction. I've given you everything I can, It's between you and God now.
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I'm fine with myself, god and the universe!
Thank you
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That's complete bs, he helps people to leave the fear train and get active again
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I'm not twisting your words and I'm certainly not attempting to ridicule you. I asked you a follow up question to better understand your comment. You said the civilization of Rome rejected 'God' and this is not my understanding. Are you suggesting the citizens of the Roman empire did not believe in deities and a higher power overseeing/influencing human civilization???

I'm asking you to clarify. Geez....
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


If I was mistaken about your intentions, I apologize. I cannot hear your voice inflection nor see your face, so it is very difficult to understand your intentions on an internet forum. I am sorry for assuming.

No - the Roman Empire did not collapse simply because they did not believe in the correct God, the Empire collapsed due to their departure from the ways of God. They descended into immorality and sin, and God was watching.
 Quoting: Rising Son


No worries man. I am just a fan of honest/intelligent discussion and enjoy asking both myself and others questions that challenge our understanding of things. I enjoy some of your posts because you are a critical thinker. I thought you were spot on in your thread regarding 'sin' and the nature of the ability to exercise empathy, even though you caught some flack by some users for asking difficult/important questions. I aslo left you some feedback/advice in one of your recent threads when you asked a question concerning Mormonism.

Regarding the topic at hand. I'm of the opinion that the reasons societies decline are not because God intervenes and destroys them, but because of the actions of the ruling parties/elite. They over-extend their civilizations beyond their capacity in an effort to sustain their greed for power & control and this ultimately leads to their decline & demise. This is a reoccuring theme throughout history. But I think it's important to note that it is the few who hold power that make the decisions that affect the masses. The lower/middle classes of these times could be the most honest and God-loving humans in the society and they would still be subject to the whim and control/decisions of those who hold power. So it's very difficult to generalize that the people of these civilizations had fallen away from God and basic humanity when we can see how Kings/Monarchs and ruling parties were manipulating society and dictating the affairs/conflicts/wars that contributed to their downfall.

To me the situation is analogous to what we're faced with today. It doesn't matter how you nor I feel about God as what we see transpiring around us is a product of the rulers of our governments and we have little to no influence over the events that unfold around us. Would it be accurate for people a couple thousand years from now to look back and conclude that the people of our day (which include you and I) had fallen away from God and that was the reason for the demise of our society? Or would it be more accurate to attribute the cause to the insatiable need for power & control by the ruling elite???hmm
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


And who gave the Church the authority to usurp the power and authority away from the true kings of the earth and to have the Pope to self appoint a puppet king to royal power?

It wasn’t god!!!

The Church is a lie!
 Quoting: INSIDERS VIEW


The pope/papacy is literally the antichrist beast system. They DO NOT represent Christianity. And yes nearly all churches today have been infiltrated and corrupted. With that being stated, Christianity is about a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. God says he does not dwell in temples made by hands, but that we are the temple.
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That's complete bs, he helps people to leave the fear train and get active again
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[link to njministries.org]

Yes in place of Jesus Christ who does the same thing, but is ever more powerful and the creator. I've tried to warn you friend. Do what you will.
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That's complete bs, he helps people to leave the fear train and get active again
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[link to njministries.org]

Yes in place of Jesus Christ who does the same thing, but is ever more powerful and the creator. I've tried to warn you friend. Do what you will.
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chuckle
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That's complete bs, he helps people to leave the fear train and get active again
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[link to njministries.org]

Yes in place of Jesus Christ who does the same thing, but is ever more powerful and the creator. I've tried to warn you friend. Do what you will.
 Quoting: Witness for Him


Christ is not the head of the Church; the Pope is!

So that makes the Pope more powerful than Christ.

Why because the Pope took power that does not belong to him, and his days are numbered!

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That's complete bs, he helps people to leave the fear train and get active again
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[link to njministries.org]

Yes in place of Jesus Christ who does the same thing, but is ever more powerful and the creator. I've tried to warn you friend. Do what you will.
 Quoting: Witness for Him


Christ is not the head of the Church; the Pope is!

So that makes the Pope more powerful than Christ.

Why because the Pope took power that does not belong to him, and his days are numbered!

5a
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Christ is the head of the Church of God. The pope is the head of the churches of the world, and is headed for the lake of fire. Like you said, his days are numbered, he's a dead man standing. God is alive. God says satan is the god of this world, and since that's who the pope represents, yes God has given him dominion/power over the world, but it wont last much longer and their destruction will be eternal.

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No, they rejected the ONLY God who matters, who created heaven and earth. Jehovah God.
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How did you determine that there is only one conceptualization of 'God' that matters?

I have some questions for you.

If you had been born 3000 years ago, which 'God' would you have worshipped?

If you had been born 4000 years ago, which 'God' would you have worshipped?

If you had been born 5000 years ago, which 'God' would you have worshipped?

hmm
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Depends, even before Jesus Christ was born, God worked with people individually, so even if one was born into a particular religion or demographic, doesn't necessarily mean anything. God looks for certain Characteristics when choosing people to work with and can accomplish anything.
 Quoting: Witness for Him


You're not answering the question though friend. What would you have called 'God' before the word 'Jehovah' had even existed or been known?
What if you had lived during the times of ancient Greece or ancient Egypt??? Sumeria?

Which God or Gods would you have praised if you lived during these civilizations where there were many different conceptualizations/understandings of God(s)?

You said Jehovah is the only God that matters so does that mean if you lived during a time in history before his name was even known that you would have been praying to fake/false God(s)???

hmm
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


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No, they rejected the ONLY God who matters, who created heaven and earth. Jehovah God.
 Quoting: Witness for Him


How did you determine that there is only one conceptualization of 'God' that matters?

I have some questions for you.

If you had been born 3000 years ago, which 'God' would you have worshipped?

If you had been born 4000 years ago, which 'God' would you have worshipped?

If you had been born 5000 years ago, which 'God' would you have worshipped?

hmm
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Depends, even before Jesus Christ was born, God worked with people individually, so even if one was born into a particular religion or demographic, doesn't necessarily mean anything. God looks for certain Characteristics when choosing people to work with and can accomplish anything.
 Quoting: Witness for Him


You're not answering the question though friend. What would you have called 'God' before the word 'Jehovah' had even existed or been known?
What if you had lived during the times of ancient Greece or ancient Egypt??? Sumeria?

Which God or Gods would you have praised if you lived during these civilizations where there were many different conceptualizations/understandings of God(s)?

You said Jehovah is the only God that matters so does that mean if you lived during a time in history before his name was even known that you would have been praying to fake/false God(s)???

hmm
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Check and mate...well done Anhedonic. You're one of my favourite posters on GLP
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in other words...you have to be a christian to gain salvation and there is no other way to have a connection to god.
that's why i don't like religion
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If we consider the very definition of 'Truth' in context to religion, there can only be ONE. Either new age is right (many ways to God) atheism's right (religion of evolution/bigbang) or one of the various world religions is right. They can't all be right, only one can be.

I'm sorry if you don't like it, but I promise you it's the truth, and I've tried my very best to share it with you, what you do with what I've given you is your choice. And If you tell me your name I'd be more than happy to pray for you.
 Quoting: Witness for Him


Maybe they all mean the same without knowing or admitting it.
They all can be true
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No that is not the definition of truth. There can be multiple sides to story, but there is only ONE truth. Jesus Christ is the only way. Take it or leave it friend.
 Quoting: Witness for Him


If logic and intelligent debate are to be done away with simply because 'Christ is the only way' and he supposedly supercedes every rational proposition with regards his existence as 'God' or whatever it is he's supposed to be, then I must leave it...
I cannot and will not be baffled by bullshit in any arena, and certainly not in the religious amphitheatre.
I require no god/s...
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"Today, I just wanted to compile some data in order to make an interesting point on the ever so nerve-searing topic of religion versus atheism. Atheism, although not technically a religion, has been called “the fastest growing religion in the history of the United States of America”, but that’s not quite the parading accomplishment that it sounds to be. The thing that people don’t take into account is the frightening fact that the rise of atheism and non-religious beliefs have mirrored the rates at which natural disasters have been occurring. This is what non-believers commonly refer to as an “odd coincidence”, like running into an old classmate at the mall, or a random explosion that somehow magically spawns all life in the universe. However, the odds, probability and likelihood of this being a simple coincidence are not in favor of atheism. Let’s take a look at the three graphs below. You can click the images to enlarge them if they are too small...."

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There are more Christians nowadays then at any point in the Earths history.

There probably is a higher percentage of Christians on this planet then at any point in the history even (although I am not entirely certain about this one, it might be that pre-ww1 the percentage might have been slightly higher).
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Re: God repsonds to atheism
Few small problems with your theory:

1. Cyclonic energy is at decade level lows - despite media hype about the few hurricanes we've had

2. Earthquakes are technically "up" but only due to better monitoring equipment that allows us to detect ones we would've have noticed before

3. Deaths from wars are at all time lows

4. Violent crime rate has plummeted worldwide and in the US in particular

5. Crop harvests are at all time highs despite media BS about the climate
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32155267


I don't understand how you are capable of making statements to refute the OP's theory without backing up your claims. Are you not guilty of the same thing you now accuse him of?

About your statements:

1. The weather extremes around the world are increasing at an alarming rate, and they are often pointed out and discussed on this site. Record heat, record cold, stronger hurricanes/typhoons, increased quantity of tornadoes, drought, flooding, etc.

2. Not only is the rate of earthquakes rising, but the severity is increasing as well. This is also something that is well documented and discussed on this site.

3. While death from war may be declining, death rates in general are not, and the rate of those deaths occurring from health problems such as cancer, heart disease, and addiction are the most notable categories of growth.

4. I do not know how you can claim this and ignore what is happening in Syria and Africa, what is happening in many Arab countries, and what continues to happen in Africa. Your statement is simply incorrect.

5. Crop harvests are not at all time highs, only the efficiency of companies that are designed to improve their productivity for an increasing demand in the market. What you will find is that the harvest has no where near kept pace with the increase in demand, and this has surfaced in rising food prices and decreased international aid to third world countries.

So - I caution you to refrain from statements that you cannot adequately represent, and I implore you to recognize the clear signs that God is showing America - if we do not change our ways, God will change our future by ending it.
 Quoting: Rising Son


1. "Record" heat and cold are based on very short records. There will statistically be record heat and cold spells in different places considering the brevity of the records and the many different places that "records" can occur.

Your statements on droughts, flooding, hurricanes and tornadoes are simply incorrect.

2. The rate and severity has not changed. We simply monitor more of the earth and with more sensitivity. Prior to our modern day equipment we wouldn't notice powerful earthquakes out at sea or in uninhabited areas.

3. Death rates have been falling. The "increase" in the diseases you mean are only due to people living long enough to get diseases of old age - heart disease and cancer.

4. I can claim this because I've looked at the statistics. Violent crime has plummeted in Europe, the US and Australia.

5. Incorrect. We produce more and more food. There has been a recent short-term drop due to biofuel mandates and price increase due to inflation, but we are still producing more food.
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