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mopar28m User ID: 14265444 United States 01/18/2013 01:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The recombinant DNA is also used in the Gardisil shot. Over 100 girls die each month after getting that vaccine. Wonder why....... vaccinefreehealth blogspot com The risk far outweighs any benefit as the risk will vary from child to child. facebook.com/graphixyourway |
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trailingedge (OP) User ID: 31133115 Australia 01/18/2013 02:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Doctors in brazil just proved again for the 6th time that vaccines cause autism and brain damage. But I guess it's not true unless MSM says it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4680133 Exactly! I guess the article is supposed to catch those that were on the fence about having it. If it was that good to start with (which it's not) how can it be improved. Where's the studies about this new improved version or are we the guinea pigs again. Mmmm where thought goes, energy flows "youth is the ultimate wealth, and you're a bit poorer today." |
trailingedge (OP) User ID: 31133115 Australia 01/18/2013 02:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NO THANKS Quoting: Astral Goat Not going to risk all that shit just to avoid the flu for a few weeks of my life. Maybe when I'm older and immune system isn't as great. With proper nutrition and some supplement assistance...ad some high intensity exercise, the body wont need anything even with older age where thought goes, energy flows "youth is the ultimate wealth, and you're a bit poorer today." |
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mopar28m User ID: 14265444 United States 01/18/2013 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The recombinant DNA is also used in the Gardisil shot. Over 100 girls die each month after getting that vaccine. Quoting: mopar28m Wonder why....... Really, where's the proof of that statement? VAERS vaccinefreehealth blogspot com The risk far outweighs any benefit as the risk will vary from child to child. facebook.com/graphixyourway |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31741081 United Kingdom 01/18/2013 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The recombinant DNA is also used in the Gardisil shot. Over 100 girls die each month after getting that vaccine. Quoting: mopar28m Wonder why....... Really, where's the proof of that statement? VAERS You're making that figure up. Gardasil was released in the June of 2006. Call it 78 months ago for ease of calculations. So if there were "over 100 deaths per month from Gardasil that would mean that there have been over 78,000 deaths from it? Is that correct? Well it has to be as that's what you're saying. Up until November 2012 there has been 24,000 adverse effects reported to VAERS. Just so you understand what a reported adverse effect is; anything in the Reportable Events Table which happens to a patient within a certain time-period after a vaccination can be reported as an adverse effect. It doesn't mean that the vaccination actually caused it, just that it has been reported. These can range from a mild headache to anaphylaxis. Naturally a death would also be reported. Do you understand that? Now lets look at the numbers again. You say you got this figure of "over 100 per month" from VAERS. Really? Just to reiterate, there have been 24,000 reported events (that figure is easily researchable in VAERS. It's even referenced on anti-vax sites) yet you say there has been over 78,000 DEATHS (which generally only form a minute percebtage of reported events). Now if we assume that your wildly incorrect figures are somehow not incorrect, if we were to add all of the other events in proportion we would probably be looking at over 1 million reported events. That's not the correct figure is it? You've made this all up yourself I think. Either that or you really do need to do your research better. (As a footnote VAERS is an incredibly poor source to try to combine vaccines with effects. As I mentioned above, events can be reported whether they're caused by the vaccine or not. Using VAERS for research like that is essentially dumpster diving. You never know what you're going to one day to the other). |
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Anonymous Coward 01/18/2013 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's kinda like banning guns... You gotta be a total fucking pussy. Guess what... You're going to get the fucking flu in your life, you're going to get a hardcore cold, you are going to get fucking sick, you are going to piss out of your asshole, and you are going to fucking vomit. Again. And again. It's called life... There doesn't need to be a vaccine for every little natural thing that can go wrong in existence... Total fucking commie fucking pussy mindset, absolutely despicable... typical in that it causes more harm, and does no good whatsoever. |
Anonymous Coward 01/18/2013 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By the way, I have NEVER had a flu shot. Have I ever had the flu? Hmm, honestly, I'm not 100% sure. I know I've been pretty sick before. I know I rarely get sick. Was it ever flu? Is there something wrong with me because I never get the flu? Do I need a shot? Do I look like a pin cushion? Yeah, maybe I need a shot so I can get the flu, and make sure everything's alright and I'm able to get sick. I don't have ADHD either, I guess I'm so fucking abnormal. Maybe I need some Guillain-Barre too so I never have to worry about not being sick again. |
aliensbro User ID: 32040337 United States 01/18/2013 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Vaccines are one of this country's darkest secrets.. Research military vaccinations from 1918-2000 specifically typhoid fever. We created that epidemic, and most others. Last Edited by aliensbro on 01/18/2013 03:48 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1306052 Netherlands 01/18/2013 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | anything in the Reportable Events Table which happens to a patient within a certain time-period after a vaccination can be reported as an adverse effect. It doesn't mean that the vaccination actually caused it, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31741081 No, it only means that vaccination is the main suspect. The shorter the time period the higher the chances. Also, if serious adverse events (encephalitis, paralysis, death) were independent of vacciantion, then the relative incidence would be substantially similar across the wholce spectrum. VAERS proves that some effects are reported more frequently for certain vaccines, proving a causal relationship. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24641849 United States 01/18/2013 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | maybe the modified baculovirus will recombine my DNA and turn me into spiderman! YEAH! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25898128 whats funny is that they say it cannot infect human cells... meanwhile i found a scientific journal stating otherwise. Here you go.... [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] J Virol. 2001 Jan;75(2):961-70. Baculovirus infection of nondividing mammalian cells: mechanisms of entry and nuclear transport of capsids. van Loo ND, Fortunati E, Ehlert E, Rabelink M, Grosveld F, Scholte BJ. Source Department of Cell Biology, Erasmus University, 3000 DR Rotterdam, The Netherlands. Abstract We have studied the infection pathway of Autographa californica multinuclear polyhedrosis virus (baculovirus) in mammalian cells. By titration with a baculovirus containing a green fluorescent protein cassette, we found that several, but not all, mammalian cell types can be infected efficiently. In contrast to previous suggestions, our data show that the asialoglycoprotein receptor is not required for efficient infection. We demonstrate for the first time that this baculovirus can infect nondividing mammalian cells, which implies that the baculovirus is able to transport its genome across the nuclear membrane of mammalian cells. Our data further show that the virus enters via endocytosis, followed by an acid-induced fusion event, which releases the nucleocapsid into the cytoplasm. Cytochalasin D strongly reduces the infection efficiency but not the delivery of nucleocapsids to the cytoplasm, suggesting involvement of actin filaments in cytoplasmic transport of the capsids. Electron microscopic analysis shows the cigar-shaped nucleocapsids located at nuclear pores of nondividing cells. Under these conditions, we observed the viral genome, major capsid protein, and electron-dense capsids inside the nucleus. This suggests that the nucleocapsid is transported through the nuclear pore. This mode of transport seems different from viruses with large spherical capsids, such as herpes simplex virus and adenovirus, which are disassembled before nuclear transport of the genome. The implications for the application of baculovirus or its capsid proteins in gene therapy are discussed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1309426 United States 01/18/2013 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | January 8, 2013 | Filed under: Articles, Featured, Gary Null Articles, Health and tagged with: Gary Null, Infectious disease, Influenza, Influenza vaccine, Thomas Jefferson, vaccination The Great Flu Vaccine Hoax Research Shows the Flu Vaccine is Not Effective or Safe Gary Null & Richard Gale Progressive Radio Network, January 8, 2013 According to all official health reports, we are now fully in flu season. It is that time of year when almost every public health official, physician, pediatrician and pharmacist is warning that everyone over 6 months of age should protect themselves and get vaccinated. Most Americans, believing the public relation efforts to push the flu vaccine, will join the inoculation lines without pausing to consider whether or not the flu vaccine is effective and safe. Increasingly over the years, we are witnessing the appearance of “scientific” studies that are little more than commercials, public relation sound bytes, to promote vaccination’s efficacy. Today a highly flawed medical trial conducted by a pharmaceutical corporation has a greater chance of being published in a more prestigious medical journal than does medical designed research conducted by an independent scientist without conflicts of interest with government or private industries. When we question why this would be the case, we can only draw the conclusion that such research is more often than not promotional spin designed to support the financial interests of the corporate party. This is particularly true of vaccine science, and is solely published in order to influence the nation’s health policy makers and physicians, and to relieve doubts concerning their vaccine’s efficacy and safety. The nation’s health agencies then rely on these fabrications to convince the larger public healthcare community and citizens about the importance of vaccination. And this scenario is particularly true for the flu vaccine. There is only one big question that needs to be answered: what is the real gold standard proof to claim that the flu vaccine is efficacious for any given individual? The question whether or not the flu vaccine is safe becomes secondary if the vaccine’s efficacy is negligible or useless. In that case, there would be no convincing scientific rationale for administering the vaccine in the first place. During the past four years, since the hype and subsequent fizzle of the H1N1 scare in 2008, we have done an extensive review of the scientific literature and analysis of flu vaccination, and the results are startling. In a recent interview with Dr. Thomas Jefferson, coordinator for the Cochrane Vaccine Field in Rome, Italy, he said that in 2009 he conducted a thorough review of 217 published studies on flu vaccines and found only 5% reliable. In other words, 95% of studies on flu vaccination are flawed and should therefore be ignored. This should not come as a great surprise; even CDC officials were forced to confess that “influenza vaccines are still among the least effective immunizing agents available, and this seems to be particularly true for elderly recipients.”[1] Dr. Anthony Morris, a distinguished virologist and a former Chief Vaccine Office at the FDA, found “there is no evidence that any influenza vaccine thus far developed is effective in preventing or mitigating any attack of influenza.’ Dr. Morris states, “The producers of these vaccines know they are worthless, but they go on selling them anyway.”[2] Pregnant Women and the Flu Vaccine The CDC’s website states, “if you are pregnant, a flu shot is your best protection against serious illness from the flu. A flu shot can protect pregnant women, their unborn babies and even the baby after birth.” Is there any scientific truth to this claim?[3] First, very few vaccine studies have been performed on pregnant women. And none of them, according to Dr. Jefferson are “high quality” studies. While some extremely poor trials have been conducted, the CDC’s National Institute for Allergies and Infectious Disease, research into the potential dangers and risks of the flu vaccine to both mom and fetus is negligible. After evaluating all flu vaccine studies on pregnant women, and finding them “artificial” in the way there designed and carried out, Dr. Jefferson concludes that “I would be very very cautious about vaccinating unborn babies.”[4] Children and the Flu Vaccine Read more: [link to prn.fm] Under Creative Commons License: Attribution Last Edited by Account Deleted by User on 01/18/2013 04:13 PM |
Epic Beard Guy User ID: 26240425 United States 01/18/2013 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's nothing like recombinant DNA to make me feel better about a flu shot! This will probably work like the HPV vaccine. Works great except for the people it kills. Apparantly the government isn't concerned with a little colateral damage (that would be the dead people). This gives a whole new meaning to "just say no to drugs". Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24641849 United States 01/18/2013 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it contains sodium chloride(4.4mg), monobasic sodium phosphate (0.195mcg), dibasic sodium phosphate (1.3mg) and polysorbate 20 aka Tween 20 (27.5 mcg), also it may contain residual amount of baculovirus and host cell proteins (< 28.5 mcg), bacoluvirus and cellular dna (<10ng),and triton x-100 (< 100 mcg).....Per .5ml dose of flublok This vaccine is for individuals age 18-49, has not been established in children, pregnant women, nursing mothers and those over the age of 50...Although if prenant women have been vaccinated using flublok they have a pregnancy registry 1888-855-7871 |
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Epic Beard Guy User ID: 26240425 United States 01/18/2013 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | maybe the modified baculovirus will recombine my DNA and turn me into spiderman! YEAH! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25898128 You have a better chance of that than preventing the flu! Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32462510 United States 01/18/2013 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually if you go to the Flublok site they mention there are none of the usual adjuvants like thimerosol etc. The only way to get out of this one is if you have an allergy to latex as the stopper is rubber. Correction the single dose vials are NOT latex so you are screwed unless you had Guillian-Barre which seems to be the major contraindication. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32462510 United States 01/18/2013 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually if you go to the Flublok site they mention there are none of the usual adjuvants like thimerosol etc. The only way to get out of this one is if you have an allergy to latex as the stopper is rubber. Correction the single dose vials are NOT latex so you are screwed unless you had Guillian-Barre which seems to be the major contraindication. Link to package insert. [link to www.flublok.com] |
t User ID: 6302433 United States 01/18/2013 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CureS for Cancer and preventative for the Flu - Proper Nutrition with supplements [link to deaddoctorsdontlie.com] Rest, Detoxing,(Baking Soda non Aluminum dissolved in water between meals) There are no good Vaccines - they are a Eugenics Weapon which is why the new adds target Black people, and the third world women and babies they want to eliminate. Avoid at all cost -stress- (Never Vaccinate) Remove Toxins like (RX Drugs) Fluoride, Food Additives, GMO Foods and Pesticides, Cleaners, Deodorants and perfumes; Radiation damage from Cell phones/towers, X-ray machines and Airport scanners, Cordless phones, Wireless networks, Smart meters and daytime airplane travel at high altitudes. Things with hidden aluminum (allum) in them, baking powder- Deodorants- vaccines - spices - industrial breads, makeup, -chemtrails. Living near Dumps, Nuclear/Power, Industrial plants. Take (Baking Soda no Aluminum) Vitamin B-17 Harry Hoxsey - Herbs - movie - When healing becomes a crime. Turmeric - Spice blows up cancer cells. B17-------------------------------- Vitamin B17 / Amygdalin / ( Laetrile: a concentrated form of Nitriloside ) Firstly we need to understand that our bodies use several enzymes to perform many tasks. Our body has one particular enzyme called Rhodanese which is found in large quantities throughout the body but is not present where ever there are cancer cells. Yet, where ever you find cancer in the body, you find another enzyme called Beta-Glucosidase. So, we have the enzyme Rhodanese found everywhere in the body except at the cancer cells, and we have the enzyme Beta-Glucosidase found in very large quantities only at the cancer cell but not found anywhere else in the body. If there is no cancer in the body there is no enzyme Beta-Glucosidase. Now the following is what scares most people. You see, Vitamin B17 is made up of 2 parts glucose, 1 part Hydrogen Cyanide and 1 part Benzaldehyde(analgesic/painkiller). So its very important you understand the following: When B17 is introduced to the body, it is broken down by the enzyme Rhodanese. The Rhodanese breaks the Hydrogen Cyanide and Benzaldehyde down into 2 by-products, Thiocyanate and Benzoic acid which are beneficial in nourishing healthy cells and forms the metabolic pool production for vitamin B12. Any excess of these by-products is expelled in normal fashion from the body via urine. Vitamin B17 passes through your body and does not last longer than 80 minutes inside your body as a result of the Rhodanese breaking it down. (Hydrogen Cyanide has been proven to be chemically inert and non toxic when taken as food or refined pharmaceutical such as laetrile. Sugar has be shown to be 20 times more toxic than B17 HERE IS THE GOOD PART - When the B17 comes into contact with cancer cells, there is no Rhodanese to break it down and neutrelise it but instead, only the enzyme Beta-Gucosidase is present in very large quantities. When B17 and Beta-Glucosidase come into contact with each other, a chemical reaction occurs and the Hydrogen Cyanide and Benzaldehyde combine synergistically to produce a poison which destroys and kills the cancer cells. This whole process is known as selective toxicity. Only the cancer cells are specifically targeted and destroyed. See the diagram below. That is how Vitamin B17 Kills Cancer. It has been proven and illustrated to work by the some of the top specialists in the world. Thats why the Contreras hospital in Mexico have been able over the LAST 30 YEARS to successfully treat over 100,000 cancer patients!!! The use of Amygdalin ( Laetrile/Vitamin B17 ) in the treatment of human cancer dates back at least to 1843, although the ancient Chinese are reported to have used bitter almonds containing significant quantities of it in the treatment of tumors some 3,000 years ago. ( Laetrile or Amygdalin ) Vitamin B17 was the name given to the purified form of Amygdalin by a Bio Chemist named Ernst T Krebs in 1952. He also called it Laetrile which is simply short for Lavo-mandelonitrile and was awarded its vitamin status officially in 1952 after advice from Dr Dean Burke who was the co-founder of the National Cancer Institute. Amygdalin on the other hand is said to have been first discovered and used by a German chemist Leibig as far back as 1830. So, laetrile/Vitamin B17 on the other hand is simply a more soluble and concentrated form of amygdalin which allows it to be administered in a much greater concentration. Either way all 3 are essentially the same thing. Vitamin B17 / Laetrile is probably one of the most controversial medical topics in the last 30 years. You may remember back in the 50's - mid 70's there was a lot hype in the medical world regarding a new natural cancer treatment that was discovered that killed cancer cells. This was the result of Dr Ernst Krebs findings and his research in a book called World Without Cancer. Well after several years of court cases and controversy regarding Laetrile it was finally stamped out by the FDA and reported to the mass media in the US as a fraud and failure. They called it Quackery in those days. TODAY the hype has and is starting again as a result of THE INTERNET. The internet has allowed us to gain information from all over the world on what perhaps really happened and what is possibly one of the biggest cover-ups known to modern man regarding the treatment of cancer. When you look at what really happened you find the truth about laetrile. How the FDA lied and falsified tests about laetrile How the people that did the original testing have come forth and given evidence of their positive findings SO WHAT IS B17? It is a non-toxic natural product that specifically targets cancer cells for their destruction and which poses as a serious threat to conventional drugs and the profits that cancer drugs make. Cancer is BIG business! The Cancer Drug companies have made every effort and attempt to make it illegal & unavailable through their lobbying of the governments and through their financial influence on the large charitable cancer institutions. Its all about $$$$ in the Mutli BILLION DOLLAR CANCER INDUSTRY ! Natural Sources of ( Vitamin B17, Laetrile, Amygdalin.) Nitriloside Range ( per 100 grams food ) High — above 500 mgs. / Medium — above 100 mgs. / Low — below 100 mgs. Fruits:blackberry, domestic low blackberry, wild high boysenberry med. choke cherry high wild crabapple high market cranberry low Swedish (lignon) cranberry high currant med. elderberry med. to high gooseberry & huckleberry med. loganberry & mulberry medquince & raspberry med. Seeds:apple seeds high apricot seed high buckwheat med. cherry seed high flax med. millet med. nectarine seed high peach seed high pear seeds high plum seed high prune seed high squash seeds med. Beans:black low black-eyed peas low fava high garbanzo low to med. green pea low kidney low to med. lentils med. lima, U.S. low lima, Burma med. mung med. to high shell low Nuts:bitter almond high cashew low macadamia med. to high Sprouts:alfalfa med. bamboo high fava med. garbanzo med. mung med. Leaves:alfalfa high beet tops low eucalyptus high spinach low water cress low Tubers: cassava high ; Sweet potato low ; yams low B17-------------------------------- Harry Hoxsey ---------------------- The Famous Hoxsey Formula - Red Clover / Burdock Plus Blood, Lymphatic and Glandular Alterative. These herbs were used by the renowned herbalist Harry Hoxsey. They are considered by herbalists to be classic alteratives, traditionally known as blood purifiers. They are believed to enhance metabolic functions and help promote better elimination through the eliminative organs, leading to a better absorption and assimilation of nutrients. Contents: Red Clover blossom, Chaparral herb, Licorice root, Buckthorn bark, Burdock root, Stillingia root, Poke root, Barberry root, Oregon Grape root, Cascara Sagrada bark, Prickly Ash bark, Wild Indigo root and Sea Kelp. 15 to 45 drops 2-3 times daily between meals. Not recommended if nursing or pregnant. The herbal tonics, salves, and powders given are adjusted to suit the specific needs of each patient, taking into account his or her general health, the location and severity of the cancer, and the extent of previous treatments for it. The Hoxsey therapy is reportedly effective in alleviating pain in many cases. Dietary specifications include the total avoidance of pork, vinegar, tomatoes, carbonated drinks, and alcohol. The forbidden foods are thought to work against the therapeutic action of the medicine. Patients are also told not to consume bleached flour or refined sugar and to ingest very limited amounts of salt. Supplements include immune stimulants, yeast tablets, vitamin C, calcium capsules, laxative tablets, and antiseptic washes. Patients are counseled to adopt a positive mental outlook and to assume complete responsibility for their own health. The clinic also offers chelation, immunotherapy, and homeopathy, as well as chemotherapy in extremely serious, life threatening cases. The types of cancer said to respond best to the treatment include lymphoma, melanoma, and external skin cancer. The clinic's patient brochure includes case histories of patients successfully treated for breast, cervical, prostate, colon and lung cancers. -Note salt is needed for proper digestion, limiting the amount of salt will allow the herbs to pass further into the digestive track possibly allowing for better absorption before being totally broken down, since stomach acid is strengthened by salt. I low salt intake may also open a person to pathogens normally killed by normal strong stomach acid. Don't eat factory farmed meat or eggs with weak stomach acid or at least cook it FULLY. Organic Meat and dairy is always a better choice if you can get it. Harry Hoxsey ---------------------- |