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Many salves, pastes, poultices, and plasters have been applied directly to tumors with the hope of burning them away. Zinc oxide, bloodroot, and several other herbs are common ingredients. Some marketers claim that corrosive agents (sometimes called "black salves") can "draw out" the cancer. In recent years, scientists have found chemicals that can destroy certain superficial skin cancers. Except for these, however, corrosive agents are worthless against cancer and cannot be legally marketed for that purpose in the United States.

Corrosive salves are often referred to as "escharotics" because they produce a thick, dry scab called an "eschar" on the skin. Their use to treat cancer dates back hundreds of years, perhaps even to ancient times. Their use was fairly common during the 18th and 19th centuries. If a tumor is confined to the superficial layers of the skin, it would be possible to burn it off with a corrosive salve or paste. Unfortunately, products capable of accomplishing this can also burn the surrounding normal tissue and result in unnecessary scarring. For superficial cancers—for which the cure rate with standard treatment is nearly 100%—it makes much more sense to use standard methods that can destroy the cancer with little or no damage to the nearby tissues. Some salves are also promoted for treating herpes, venereal, diseases, diabetes, and lupus.

This idea that eschartics can "draw out" cancers from underneath the skin is preposterous. Furthermore, even if a product could do this, it could not influence cancers that have spread (metastasized) to distant regions of the body.

Some currently marketed escharotics contain bloodroot (Sanguinaria candensis), zinc chloride, or both. However, because cancer salves are not manufactured under government supervision, it may not even be possible to know what is in them. People who use such products without benefit of medical consultation run additional risks. Untrained individuals may incorrectly conclude that a growth is cancerous when it is not. Skin cancers that can spread should be medically investigated to see whether they have done so, and some of these require extensive treatment even though they might not look dangerous to the naked eye. In addition, although escharotics may appear to destroy cancers on the surface of the skin, the user will not be able to tell whether cancer remains under the skin where it can continue to grow without immediate detection.



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Go post your bullshit else where. I've seen it work dick.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14826906


BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH!!! As soon as the FDA steps in and takes something that is natural off the market, you know it works, and they can't make money from it because they can't patent anything that is natural.

Get lost, shill!!!
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Many salves, pastes, poultices, and plasters have been applied directly to tumors with the hope of burning them away. Zinc oxide, bloodroot, and several other herbs are common ingredients. Some marketers claim that corrosive agents (sometimes called "black salves") can "draw out" the cancer. In recent years, scientists have found chemicals that can destroy certain superficial skin cancers. Except for these, however, corrosive agents are worthless against cancer and cannot be legally marketed for that purpose in the United States.

Corrosive salves are often referred to as "escharotics" because they produce a thick, dry scab called an "eschar" on the skin. Their use to treat cancer dates back hundreds of years, perhaps even to ancient times. Their use was fairly common during the 18th and 19th centuries. If a tumor is confined to the superficial layers of the skin, it would be possible to burn it off with a corrosive salve or paste. Unfortunately, products capable of accomplishing this can also burn the surrounding normal tissue and result in unnecessary scarring. For superficial cancers—for which the cure rate with standard treatment is nearly 100%—it makes much more sense to use standard methods that can destroy the cancer with little or no damage to the nearby tissues. Some salves are also promoted for treating herpes, venereal, diseases, diabetes, and lupus.

This idea that eschartics can "draw out" cancers from underneath the skin is preposterous. Furthermore, even if a product could do this, it could not influence cancers that have spread (metastasized) to distant regions of the body.

Some currently marketed escharotics contain bloodroot (Sanguinaria candensis), zinc chloride, or both. However, because cancer salves are not manufactured under government supervision, it may not even be possible to know what is in them. People who use such products without benefit of medical consultation run additional risks. Untrained individuals may incorrectly conclude that a growth is cancerous when it is not. Skin cancers that can spread should be medically investigated to see whether they have done so, and some of these require extensive treatment even though they might not look dangerous to the naked eye. In addition, although escharotics may appear to destroy cancers on the surface of the skin, the user will not be able to tell whether cancer remains under the skin where it can continue to grow without immediate detection.



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Go post your bullshit else where. I've seen it work dick.
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BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH!!! As soon as the FDA steps in and takes something that is natural off the market, you know it works, and they can't make money from it because they can't patent anything that is natural.

Get lost, shill!!!
 Quoting: katballoo


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No it does NOTHING to healthy flesh...Just Cancer.
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At best, that's an ignorant statement. At worst, it is a blatant lie.

[link to www.quackwatch.org]

"Black salves" can eat away at healthy flesh. The chemical has no means of differentiating against healthy or cancerous flesh. There is not a single peer-reviewed article that would agree with you.


Everyone else: consult a doctor about any possible cancerous growth or tumor. Like the above article says, superficial cancers are almost 100% treatable with minimally invasive procedures. Don't get fooled by the pseudoscience crowd.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12815397


Folks, don't listen to this shill jerk, ANYTHING that is pharmaceutical is dangerous. The pharmaceutical companies, FDA, and Government all are hand in hand. It is all about the money.
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No it does NOTHING to healthy flesh...Just Cancer.
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At best, that's an ignorant statement. At worst, it is a blatant lie.

[link to www.quackwatch.org]

"Black salves" can eat away at healthy flesh. The chemical has no means of differentiating against healthy or cancerous flesh. There is not a single peer-reviewed article that would agree with you.


Everyone else: consult a doctor about any possible cancerous growth or tumor. Like the above article says, superficial cancers are almost 100% treatable with minimally invasive procedures. Don't get fooled by the pseudoscience crowd.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12815397


Folks, don't listen to this shill jerk, ANYTHING that is pharmaceutical is dangerous. The pharmaceutical companies, FDA, and Government all are hand in hand. It is all about the money.
 Quoting: katballoo

clappa
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the question is why are many pets getting cancer...

my dog had cancer the ball was so big as big as a grape fruit we had to put her down... then today I have a neighbor who had an 8 year old dog and they just put their dog down

had cancer


why are all these animals getting cancer

what is giving them this..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32760268


The pets are getting cancer because the foods that they are eating are loaded with GMO products, and chemicals. The same reason that people are getting cancer. Tap water is not good either, especially if you are in an area that puts flouride in the water.

Switch to a pet food that is organic...it will cost more, but it doesn't have all the additives that are so bad for them.
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No it does NOTHING to healthy flesh...Just Cancer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31554552


At best, that's an ignorant statement. At worst, it is a blatant lie.

[link to www.quackwatch.org]

"Black salves" can eat away at healthy flesh. The chemical has no means of differentiating against healthy or cancerous flesh. There is not a single peer-reviewed article that would agree with you.


Everyone else: consult a doctor about any possible cancerous growth or tumor. Like the above article says, superficial cancers are almost 100% treatable with minimally invasive procedures. Don't get fooled by the pseudoscience crowd.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12815397


Well if thats the case my cats EAR should have fell off...Save your BS for another post

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE MY CATS EAR?????? Its still there
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The fact that your cat still has an ear is not a peer-reviewed article. Please provide one that supports your claim.

Also, I would highly recommend that you contact your local ASPCA and ask them if it is medically advisable to put black salve on any part of your cat. Putting a chemical that is known to cause corrosive burns on an animal could be considered animal abuse in some jurisdictions.

REMEMBER: black salves are a corrosive agents. These agents can cause severe burns and flesh decay with prolonged use. Instead of following vague pseudoscience, please consult a licensed physician for medical advice.
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shill
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BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH!!! As soon as the FDA steps in and takes something that is natural off the market, you know it works, and they can't make money from it because they can't patent anything that is natural.


 Quoting: katballoo


But its OK in Mouthwash. Just like cannabis is OK in Sativex. Put it in a bottle, put a label on it and suddenly it has the approval of the Physician Priest Kings (rolls eyes).

(you know, medical school is not that hard. The only hard part is staying awake. Chances are, your doctor is not as smart as your plumber. He just has that Big Blue Book.)

Do be an informed consumer. Do your research. Whether you get a drug from your doctor, or tincture it yourself from wild gathered plants. Know what you are putting on, and in your body.

According to one source, bloodroot ingestion can cause a positive opiate test in urinalysis. Is this correct?

[link to www.herbal-howto-guide.com]
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OP thanks for the info. I use alot of herbs and plants but never heard of Black Salve. I understand Black Salve can be made by different herbs along with Blood Root. Where did you order your product. I use DMSO for sore muscles and it does a great job for me.

The person above from Quack watch should realize the only quacks are the ones who think they can heal by using man made chemicals. God gave us all the herbs, plants, minerals and Sunlight we need to stay healthy. Man has poisoned us our entire lives with their man made chemical concoctions. I laugh when I read about what doctors are taught from the Slave Masters. How many have died from being radiated in order to get rid of Cancer?

Peace
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You are so right!! People actually die faster when they are treated with radiation and chemotherapy, then if they did nothing at all.

Our bodies need to be alkaline to be healthy. If we have alkaline bodies, cancer CANNOT grow in an alkaline environment. We get far too many chemicals in our food, and over the counter drugs, as well as prescription drugs, which turns our bodies acidic, which is the perfect breeding ground for disease. We also get far too little Vitamin D, which is a big contributor to keeping our bodies alkaline.

If you want some VERY good information about the evils of the Pharmaceutical companies, and the FDA, you should buy the book, "Natural Cures, THEY Don't Want YOu to Know About", by Kevin Trudeau. This book has sold more copies then almost any other book out there.

Remember...THEY don't want us to be healthy...if we are healthy they wouldn't make any money.
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the question is why are many pets getting cancer...

my dog had cancer the ball was so big as big as a grape fruit we had to put her down... then today I have a neighbor who had an 8 year old dog and they just put their dog down

had cancer


why are all these animals getting cancer

what is giving them this..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32760268


The pets are getting cancer because the foods that they are eating are loaded with GMO products, and chemicals. The same reason that people are getting cancer. Tap water is not good either, especially if you are in an area that puts flouride in the water.

Switch to a pet food that is organic...it will cost more, but it doesn't have all the additives that are so bad for them.
 Quoting: katballoo


Yes...I agree. This has been my thoughts on it to. I did change to a organic dry food. I notice they eat less of it. I assume it is cause they are actually getting nutrients.
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BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH!!! As soon as the FDA steps in and takes something that is natural off the market, you know it works, and they can't make money from it because they can't patent anything that is natural.


 Quoting: katballoo


But its OK in Mouthwash. Just like cannabis is OK in Sativex. Put it in a bottle, put a label on it and suddenly it has the approval of the Physician Priest Kings (rolls eyes).

(you know, medical school is not that hard. The only hard part is staying awake. Chances are, your doctor is not as smart as your plumber. He just has that Big Blue Book.)

Do be an informed consumer. Do your research. Whether you get a drug from your doctor, or tincture it yourself from wild gathered plants. Know what you are putting on, and in your body.

According to one source, bloodroot ingestion can cause a positive opiate test in urinalysis. Is this correct?

[link to www.herbal-howto-guide.com]
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia



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OP thanks for the info. I use alot of herbs and plants but never heard of Black Salve. I understand Black Salve can be made by different herbs along with Blood Root. Where did you order your product. I use DMSO for sore muscles and it does a great job for me.

The person above from Quack watch should realize the only quacks are the ones who think they can heal by using man made chemicals. God gave us all the herbs, plants, minerals and Sunlight we need to stay healthy. Man has poisoned us our entire lives with their man made chemical concoctions. I laugh when I read about what doctors are taught from the Slave Masters. How many have died from being radiated in order to get rid of Cancer?

Peace
 Quoting: Amy_A


You are so right!! People actually die faster when they are treated with radiation and chemotherapy, then if they did nothing at all.

Our bodies need to be alkaline to be healthy. If we have alkaline bodies, cancer CANNOT grow in an alkaline environment. We get far too many chemicals in our food, and over the counter drugs, as well as prescription drugs, which turns our bodies acidic, which is the perfect breeding ground for disease. We also get far too little Vitamin D, which is a big contributor to keeping our bodies alkaline.

If you want some VERY good information about the evils of the Pharmaceutical companies, and the FDA, you should buy the book, "Natural Cures, THEY Don't Want YOu to Know About", by Kevin Trudeau. This book has sold more copies then almost any other book out there.

Remember...THEY don't want us to be healthy...if we are healthy they wouldn't make any money.
 Quoting: katballoo


hf
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Speaking of Quackwatch's disconnects...Bloodroot can have many (but not all) of the same side effects as Imiquimod, which is FDA approved. Read Imiquimod side effects here, too many to cutapaste, even for me:

[link to www.mayoclinic.com]

Note the "may cause sudden blindness" part-but that is OK, as long as you get it from a doctor!

Just be careful with any agent which can cause skin irritation, no matter if its approved by the powers that be or not. People react differently to different substances.


I know someone who successfulyl treated vaccine induced sarcoma in their dog with Rick Simpson Oil (whole plant cannabis extract)-no noticeable side effects. Dog slept a lot the first few days, is completely fine now. Out catching frisbees.
The little guy had already had his leg amputated, and gone through chemo twice. Tumors had spread to his liver. No indication of cancer in him after 6 months on the oil. Happy three legged dog.
If you have a pet with liver cancer you may wish to consider this option.
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Imiquimod is used secondary to surgery. It is also a regulated drug where your physician can effectively monitor your treatment. Your physician cannot monitor your treatment of bloodroot or other corrosive agents that are not licensed for medical use.
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The offensive word here is DRUG. Chemical. Go fuck yourself, and try and kill someone else, asshole!!
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Unless you have had cancer or a tumor and used black salve then PLEASE JUST SHUT UP
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Having cancer does not make one an expert at treating cancer. Please provide your peer-reviewed sources that prove corrosive agents, such as bloodroot and "black salves", are effective at treating cancer.
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Please refrain from acting like you think you know everything, you government shill! She doesn't have to provide anything to you. If you don't like this thread, why don't you just leave? I would go with natural ingredients anyday. I know what chemicals can do. You are an evil person.
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Unless you have had cancer or a tumor and used black salve then PLEASE JUST SHUT UP
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Having cancer does not make one an expert at treating cancer. Please provide your peer-reviewed sources that prove corrosive agents, such as bloodroot and "black salves", are effective at treating cancer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12815397


Please refrain from acting like you think you know everything, you government shill! She doesn't have to provide anything to you. If you don't like this thread, why don't you just leave? I would go with natural ingredients anyday. I know what chemicals can do. You are an evil person.
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[link to www.earthclinic.com]

The bloodroot tincture have cured many parasites inside the body - including the brain, as well as Morgellons and many parasites identified in Hulda Clark. The bloodroot tincture also eliminate hepatitis C, hepatitis B, colon polyps and a host of many other major diseases due to parasites, tough HPV virus, and has an anti-cancer properties. The key to successfully using it is to also use vitamin B complex as well as getting a low dose dissolved in a glass of water and baking soda to help healing of damaged tissues.
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I swear the suggestions on that website are valuable! I have gone there countless times for remedies that have always worked! I read up a lot on bloodroot as well as golden seal (black salve/yellow salve). It is just amazing how TPTB want to squash any positive feedback on alternative methods of ridding cancer.
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From your own link:

"Our readers offer information and opinions on Earth Clinic, not as a substitute for professional medical prevention, diagnosis, or treatment. Please consult with your physician, pharmacist, or health care provider before taking any home remedies or supplements or following any treatment suggested by anyone on this site. Only your health care provider, personal physician, or pharmacist can provide you with advice on what is safe and effective for your unique needs or diagnose your particular medical history."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12815397


You sound like a broken record...what are you, a robot? How much do you get paid to keep spouting off the same bull? You should be ashamed of yourself! Natural cures do not kill...man made chemicals do!
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Drugs go in and out of style.

[link to www.herbal-howto-guide.com]

History, Folklore, and Magical Belief: Bloodroot was an official medication in the U.S. Pharmacopoeia from 1820 - 1926. The USDA placed Bloodroot on it’s Unsafe Herbs list in 1977.

Look at all the conflict about safrole (and there is a lot of it!)

[link to sassafrasandhistory.blogspot.com]

We've managed to demonize root beer.
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the question is why are many pets getting cancer...

my dog had cancer the ball was so big as big as a grape fruit we had to put her down... then today I have a neighbor who had an 8 year old dog and they just put their dog down

had cancer


why are all these animals getting cancer

what is giving them this..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32760268


The pets are getting cancer because the foods that they are eating are loaded with GMO products, and chemicals. The same reason that people are getting cancer. Tap water is not good either, especially if you are in an area that puts flouride in the water.

Switch to a pet food that is organic...it will cost more, but it doesn't have all the additives that are so bad for them.
 Quoting: katballoo


Yes...I agree. This has been my thoughts on it to. I did change to a organic dry food. I notice they eat less of it. I assume it is cause they are actually getting nutrients.
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Thanks OP!! This is a great thread! Too bad that you have to deal with so many shills. Don't let them deter you, you know what is working! I will definitely try and buy some.

5***** for you!!
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the question is why are many pets getting cancer...

my dog had cancer the ball was so big as big as a grape fruit we had to put her down... then today I have a neighbor who had an 8 year old dog and they just put their dog down

had cancer


why are all these animals getting cancer

what is giving them this..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32760268


The pets are getting cancer because the foods that they are eating are loaded with GMO products, and chemicals. The same reason that people are getting cancer. Tap water is not good either, especially if you are in an area that puts flouride in the water.

Switch to a pet food that is organic...it will cost more, but it doesn't have all the additives that are so bad for them.
 Quoting: katballoo


Yes...I agree. This has been my thoughts on it to. I did change to a organic dry food. I notice they eat less of it. I assume it is cause they are actually getting nutrients.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31554552


Thanks OP!! This is a great thread! Too bad that you have to deal with so many shills. Don't let them deter you, you know what is working! I will definitely try and buy some.

5***** for you!!
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Please research it yourself..I seen it work with my own 2 eyes. I would recommend everyone get some to keep in their medicine cabinet before its taken off the market, and made illegal in the US. I hope I get some bump and stars to keep this info in the for front.

Thanks!
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what is "black salve?" Where can you get it?
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OP, Do you know anything that will get rid of gout?
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All other ground is sinking sand!"
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OP, Do you know anything that will get rid of gout?
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My friend has really really really bad gout...He is taking some kind of drink that he swears about. Ill find out tomorrow and post it here.
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Please research it yourself..I seen it work with my own 2 eyes. I would recommend everyone get some to keep in their medicine cabinet before its taken off the market, and made illegal in the US. I hope I get some bump and stars to keep this info in the for front.

Thanks!
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what is "black salve?" Where can you get it?
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I used the Amazon Black Salve from Alpha Omega Labs. They say this is the best on the market. You can google it to purchase it. It costs $25
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OP, Do you know anything that will get rid of gout?
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My friend has really really really bad gout...He is taking some kind of drink that he swears about. Ill find out tomorrow and post it here.
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Thank you OP..I will be looking for your post..He is drinking Mothers apple cider vinegar 2 Tbls 3 times a day with 8 oz of water..No longer working for him..
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All other ground is sinking sand!"
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Thanks Op, great message to get out there !

You also got the hell shilled out of you, must be good info.





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