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Router security,,,,FIRMWARE FLASHING

 
Hitndahedfred
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Router security,,,,FIRMWARE FLASHING
With all this UpnP stuff going on.

I thought I would clue ya all in on a few things.

Most "routers" are made by Cisco. A lot of "branding" goes on in this market and others as you all well know.

The FIRST thing I do after getting a "new" router is replace the firmware.

Out of the box firmware is ok for those who don't care or just want an easy network connection in their home or office.

But for the rest of us who really know the workings of these devices usually re-flash the firmware with DD-WRT or Tomato or one of the other open source versions written for the many models of routers out there.

Personally I use DD-WRT in my Linksys WRT54G,,,
Now my home network is very different from the usual home network. I use very different IP settings and various subnets to further deepen my security at home. When I say this I mean I am using several routers, and "smart" switches to protect my machines from intrusion.

DD-WRT here
[link to www.dd-wrt.com]

Tomato here
[link to www.polarcloud.com]

And a simple Google search using these terms,,,
"router firmware update"
Will set you on the path to heightened security and control of your home or small business network.

I hope this helps a lot out in this dire time

peace

Last Edited by Hitndahedfred on 01/30/2013 01:58 PM
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5* and a pin suggestion.

Eventhough it's an effortless post it is clearly a lot more effort than that shitty government put out.
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good advice, but make sure your router is a good mark/model/type to be reflashed; not all linksys/cisco's are compatible.

also make sure that your tomate or dd-wrt doesn't have upnp services enabled (a recent dd-wrt doesn't by default, i don't know about tomato).
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This is highly interesting,
need more Info and will start my
Research, i never thought about
the Router!

High 5 and Arigatoooooooo!
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good advice, but make sure your router is a good mark/model/type to be reflashed; not all linksys/cisco's are compatible.

also make sure that your tomate or dd-wrt doesn't have upnp services enabled (a recent dd-wrt doesn't by default, i don't know about tomato).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32098210

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YES,,, absolutely,,,

CHECK the websites before attempting any "flashing". Or you WILL end up with a brick for sure.

Thanks ACs for the positives. I just thought more people should be aware that there ARE alternatives available to the canned stuff in the stores.

peace
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also disable WPS on any router regardless of firmware
i was able to crack WPS in about 5 hours using backtrack and it kicked back the WPA2 password to me.
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Also. I forgot. You can use this thingamabobble to see if you're even vuln. [link to www.rapid7.com]
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Also. I forgot. You can use this thingamabobble to see if you're even vuln. [link to www.rapid7.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10097155

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Yep,,, for those who care not to learn the workings,,, it is a decent tool.

peace
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Here is a recent thread on the subject...

Thread: Computer Question HELP!
"I think, therefore I am..."
René Descartes

"I don't think, therefore I am not..."
RockHall

"The ONLY hope we have is Donald Trump"
...

Should Trump file for a recount in all the states he lost?
Absolutely.
Fair is fair.

Thread: Should Trump file for a recount in all the states he lost?
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Here is a recent thread on the subject...

Thread: Computer Question HELP!
 Quoting: RockHall

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Thanks ,,,

I never bothered to search too deep before posting,,

peace
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PfSense works nicely too - combined with a quad-NIC and VLAN trunks to a decent switch. With any old x86 hardware, you will have all the routing you will ever need.

The WRT54G has limited hardware resources by todays standards, albeit a classic Linux box. Even with DD-WRT though, with enough concurrent connections, the box will crumble and the packet loss will drive you insane.

PfSense also makes management of multiple subnets, much easier.
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Also. I forgot. You can use this thingamabobble to see if you're even vuln. [link to www.rapid7.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10097155

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Yep,,, for those who care not to learn the workings,,, it is a decent tool.

peace
 Quoting: Hitndahedfred


...problem is.....to use that you have to install JAVA.
...which has it's own vulnerability problems.
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With all this UpnP stuff going on.

I thought I would clue ya all in on a few things.

Most "routers" are made by Cisco. A lot of "branding" goes on in this market and others as you all well know.

The FIRST thing I do after getting a "new" router is replace the firmware.

Out of the box firmware is ok for those who don't care or just want an easy network connection in their home or office.

But for the rest of us who really know the workings of these devices usually re-flash the firmware with DD-WRT or Tomato or one of the other open source versions written for the many models of routers out there.

Personally I use DD-WRT in my Linksys WRT54G,,,
Now my home network is very different from the usual home network. I use very different IP settings and various subnets to further deepen my security at home. When I say this I mean I am using several routers, and "smart" switches to protect my machines from intrusion.

DD-WRT here
[link to www.dd-wrt.com]

Tomato here
[link to www.polarcloud.com]

And a simple Google search using these terms,,,
"router firmware update"
Will set you on the path to heightened security and control of your home or small business network.

I hope this helps a lot out in this dire time

peace
 Quoting: Hitndahedfred


I use WRT's capability to bridge my wireless routers.
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Thanks for this post. I've been looking for information on the subject.

How do I find out if I can do this with my TP-Link 841?
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interesting thx op
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Thanks for this post. I've been looking for information on the subject.

How do I find out if I can do this with my TP-Link 841?
 Quoting: Dominus


hmm, you use google...

[link to www.dd-wrt.com]
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Thanks for that. I searched some a month ago and then got caught up with some studying for work. I'll look back in to it.

Last Edited by Dominus on 01/30/2013 09:19 PM
The constitutions of most of our States and the United States assert, that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves, in all cases to which they think themselves competent, or they may act by representatives, freely and equally chosen; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property, and freedom of the press. -Thomas Jefferson in a letter to John Cartwright, June 5, 1824
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Thanks for that. I searched some a month ago and then got caught up with some studying for work. I'll look back in to it.
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you find it?





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