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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33411063 United States 01/31/2013 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How many of you realize in Texas a prosecutor is completely immune from lawsuits or any legal action arising from wrongdoing during criminal prosecutions? It's called absolute immunity. If a prosecutor in Texas finds exculpultory evidence that proves a person he is prosecuting is innocent , he is not by Texas law required to reveal it and the defendant has no legal remedy under Texas law. Quoting: Anon Astro 1132828 Federal courts do not have jurisdiction that supersedes Texas circuit courts decisions, only the Supreme court does. What this means essentially is in Texas they can take down anyone they want any time they want. Read this decision for a shocking revelation: [link to www.6thcoa.courts.state.tx.us] The shooter was most likely getting revenge, it would seem to b the clear motive. The only thing I can say about that is..It's not a good idea to get into trouble in the state of Texas. It's pretty simple, keep your nose clean, don't break the law and you won't have anything to worry about. If someone tends to get into trouble they might want to move to a state with more liberal laws and no death penalty. Just sayin.. That's not possible anymore. I guarantee you that you break the law on a regular basis and don't even know it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33337354 Ireland 01/31/2013 07:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How many of you realize in Texas a prosecutor is completely immune from lawsuits or any legal action arising from wrongdoing during criminal prosecutions? It's called absolute immunity. If a prosecutor in Texas finds exculpultory evidence that proves a person he is prosecuting is innocent , he is not by Texas law required to reveal it and the defendant has no legal remedy under Texas law. Quoting: Anon Astro 1132828 Federal courts do not have jurisdiction that supersedes Texas circuit courts decisions, only the Supreme court does. What this means essentially is in Texas they can take down anyone they want any time they want. Read this decision for a shocking revelation: [link to www.6thcoa.courts.state.tx.us] The shooter was most likely getting revenge, it would seem to b the clear motive. The only thing I can say about that is..It's not a good idea to get into trouble in the state of Texas. It's pretty simple, keep your nose clean, don't break the law and you won't have anything to worry about. If someone tends to get into trouble they might want to move to a state with more liberal laws and no death penalty. Just sayin.. It is not just "Texas" you vapid drip.. it is every state in the country and your little diatribe falls flat on its fucking face. Take a break.. you are one of those they would be happy to seat on a jury.. as long as they were looking to convict someone of something. You would gladly walk lockstep with instructions to ignore evidence or even laws as long as they told you what to do. You aint all that bright sweetheart. |
Anon Astro User ID: 1132828 United States 01/31/2013 07:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How many of you realize in Texas a prosecutor is completely immune from lawsuits or any legal action arising from wrongdoing during criminal prosecutions? It's called absolute immunity. If a prosecutor in Texas finds exculpultory evidence that proves a person he is prosecuting is innocent , he is not by Texas law required to reveal it and the defendant has no legal remedy under Texas law. Quoting: Anon Astro 1132828 Federal courts do not have jurisdiction that supersedes Texas circuit courts decisions, only the Supreme court does. What this means essentially is in Texas they can take down anyone they want any time they want. Read this decision for a shocking revelation: [link to www.6thcoa.courts.state.tx.us] The shooter was most likely getting revenge, it would seem to b the clear motive. BINGO!! it is this way in most states. There is no recourse for the condemned if the "prosecutor" has a hard on for someone. A DA could literally get pissed at someone for fucking his daughter and railroad them into prison.. and NOTHING could be done about it. I think there is at least one way as we have seen today. Precisely, and the reason i think it was an accused child molester is because the charge destroys ones life forever and that is the goal of the prosecutor. I personally believe that withholding exculpultory evidence is a criminal act, since you are knowingly and wrongfully denying an individual of their freedom and the their future in many cases. This needs to be ruled on by the supreme court definitively and if Texas doesn't want to comply then it needs to leave the Union, and prosecutors and judges excluded from the absolute immunity clause. I am sure the population of Texas would be much less if people knew how corrupted it's government really is, it's sick to the bone. That is simply not justice, and it is why our prisons are full and privatized corporations are making billions off of a corrupt system. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33337354 Ireland 01/31/2013 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Kaufman County Assistant DA Hasse knew his life was in danger Quoting: Suzy Creamcheese [link to www.google.com] takes 10 secs. to load . Unfortunately... i don't believe a fucking thing the "press" reports anymore. You can be guaranteed it is wrong. BTDT. well, with a crippled Congresswoman, a shot-up movie theater, 20 dead kids, and now an assassinated DA, well, things just are looking real good for the Gun Lobby right now. Your reply makes no sense... as for the "issue" .. see a doc, there are medicines for that. |
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Saddletramp User ID: 740208 Puerto Rico 01/31/2013 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's what happens when you go quail hunting with Dick Cheney... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33411063 United States 01/31/2013 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Kaufman County Assistant DA Hasse knew his life was in danger Quoting: Suzy Creamcheese [link to www.google.com] takes 10 secs. to load . Unfortunately... i don't believe a fucking thing the "press" reports anymore. You can be guaranteed it is wrong. BTDT. well, with a crippled Congresswoman, a shot-up movie theater, 20 dead kids, and now an assassinated DA, well, things just are looking real good for the Gun Lobby right now. Your reply makes no sense... as for the "issue" .. see a doc, there are medicines for that. You're not the first to notice. Nothing she types makes sense. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33337354 Ireland 01/31/2013 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How many of you realize in Texas a prosecutor is completely immune from lawsuits or any legal action arising from wrongdoing during criminal prosecutions? It's called absolute immunity. If a prosecutor in Texas finds exculpultory evidence that proves a person he is prosecuting is innocent , he is not by Texas law required to reveal it and the defendant has no legal remedy under Texas law. Quoting: Anon Astro 1132828 Federal courts do not have jurisdiction that supersedes Texas circuit courts decisions, only the Supreme court does. What this means essentially is in Texas they can take down anyone they want any time they want. Read this decision for a shocking revelation: [link to www.6thcoa.courts.state.tx.us] The shooter was most likely getting revenge, it would seem to b the clear motive. BINGO!! it is this way in most states. There is no recourse for the condemned if the "prosecutor" has a hard on for someone. A DA could literally get pissed at someone for fucking his daughter and railroad them into prison.. and NOTHING could be done about it. I think there is at least one way as we have seen today. Precisely, and the reason i think it was an accused child molester is because the charge destroys ones life forever and that is the goal of the prosecutor. I personally believe that withholding exculpultory evidence is a criminal act, since you are knowingly and wrongfully denying an individual of their freedom and the their future in many cases. This needs to be ruled on by the supreme court definitively and if Texas doesn't want to comply then it needs to leave the Union, and prosecutors and judges excluded from the absolute immunity clause. I am sure the population of Texas would be much less if people knew how corrupted it's government really is, it's sick to the bone. That is simply not justice, and it is why our prisons are full and privatized corporations are making billions off of a corrupt system. As I stated... it is not just a texas thing.. it is nationwide. It is a disgusting travesty. The court system is about the money.. I was in front of a judge here two weeks back.. a hearing on whether or not a DISBARRED attorney COULD represent his ex-wife in a civil suit. Understand... he had been DISBARRED over a decade ago.. still is! But the judge allowed him to represent his crazy ex just to keep the money flowing into the "system" In what SANE world would you allow a DISBARRED attorney to represent ANYONE?? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33337354 Ireland 01/31/2013 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I predict the shooter will be found to be a falsely accused child molester that lost his own children and he was involved in a CPS action involving his children. Quoting: Anon Astro 1132828 I'll lay ten to one odds against anyone willing to bet me. Until they accuse him of being a RACIST!.. then none of that will matter. |
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Anon Astro User ID: 1132828 United States 01/31/2013 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33337354 Unfortunately... i don't believe a fucking thing the "press" reports anymore. You can be guaranteed it is wrong. BTDT. well, with a crippled Congresswoman, a shot-up movie theater, 20 dead kids, and now an assassinated DA, well, things just are looking real good for the Gun Lobby right now. Your reply makes no sense... as for the "issue" .. see a doc, there are medicines for that. You're not the first to notice. Nothing she types makes sense. I agree Psy op , Un mentionable institute style. This is NOT a gun control issue at all, but an isolated incident of vigilante justice that might rapidly expand IMHO if the injustices continue. There are people who will act on "an eye for an eye and a life for a life" here in Texas, I know dozens of them personally. That is real justice, be it at the hands of a citizen or a judge. |
Anon Astro User ID: 1132828 United States 01/31/2013 07:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I predict the shooter will be found to be a falsely accused child molester that lost his own children and he was involved in a CPS action involving his children. Quoting: Anon Astro 1132828 I'll lay ten to one odds against anyone willing to bet me. Until they accuse him of being a RACIST!.. then none of that will matter. LOL, yep, play that spade |
Anon Astro User ID: 1132828 United States 01/31/2013 07:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33337354 BINGO!! it is this way in most states. There is no recourse for the condemned if the "prosecutor" has a hard on for someone. A DA could literally get pissed at someone for fucking his daughter and railroad them into prison.. and NOTHING could be done about it. I think there is at least one way as we have seen today. Precisely, and the reason i think it was an accused child molester is because the charge destroys ones life forever and that is the goal of the prosecutor. I personally believe that withholding exculpultory evidence is a criminal act, since you are knowingly and wrongfully denying an individual of their freedom and the their future in many cases. This needs to be ruled on by the supreme court definitively and if Texas doesn't want to comply then it needs to leave the Union, and prosecutors and judges excluded from the absolute immunity clause. I am sure the population of Texas would be much less if people knew how corrupted it's government really is, it's sick to the bone. That is simply not justice, and it is why our prisons are full and privatized corporations are making billions off of a corrupt system. As I stated... it is not just a texas thing.. it is nationwide. It is a disgusting travesty. The court system is about the money.. I was in front of a judge here two weeks back.. a hearing on whether or not a DISBARRED attorney COULD represent his ex-wife in a civil suit. Understand... he had been DISBARRED over a decade ago.. still is! But the judge allowed him to represent his crazy ex just to keep the money flowing into the "system" In what SANE world would you allow a DISBARRED attorney to represent ANYONE?? it's legal in ALL US JURISDICTIONS for ANYONE to represent the defense, including the defendant himself.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33337354 Ireland 01/31/2013 07:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Precisely, and the reason i think it was an accused child molester is because the charge destroys ones life forever and that is the goal of the prosecutor. I personally believe that withholding exculpultory evidence is a criminal act, since you are knowingly and wrongfully denying an individual of their freedom and the their future in many cases. This needs to be ruled on by the supreme court definitively and if Texas doesn't want to comply then it needs to leave the Union, and prosecutors and judges excluded from the absolute immunity clause. I am sure the population of Texas would be much less if people knew how corrupted it's government really is, it's sick to the bone. That is simply not justice, and it is why our prisons are full and privatized corporations are making billions off of a corrupt system. As I stated... it is not just a texas thing.. it is nationwide. It is a disgusting travesty. The court system is about the money.. I was in front of a judge here two weeks back.. a hearing on whether or not a DISBARRED attorney COULD represent his ex-wife in a civil suit. Understand... he had been DISBARRED over a decade ago.. still is! But the judge allowed him to represent his crazy ex just to keep the money flowing into the "system" In what SANE world would you allow a DISBARRED attorney to represent ANYONE?? it's legal in ALL US JURISDICTIONS for ANYONE to represent the defense, including the defendant himself.. But... HE is not a "defendant".. nor is this a criminal case.. civil litigation based on an onerous lawsuit. He is not involved.. though HE is now REPRESENTING HER.. while being DISBARRED! |
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Anon Astro User ID: 1132828 United States 01/31/2013 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anon Astro 1132828 Precisely, and the reason i think it was an accused child molester is because the charge destroys ones life forever and that is the goal of the prosecutor. I personally believe that withholding exculpultory evidence is a criminal act, since you are knowingly and wrongfully denying an individual of their freedom and the their future in many cases. This needs to be ruled on by the supreme court definitively and if Texas doesn't want to comply then it needs to leave the Union, and prosecutors and judges excluded from the absolute immunity clause. I am sure the population of Texas would be much less if people knew how corrupted it's government really is, it's sick to the bone. That is simply not justice, and it is why our prisons are full and privatized corporations are making billions off of a corrupt system. As I stated... it is not just a texas thing.. it is nationwide. It is a disgusting travesty. The court system is about the money.. I was in front of a judge here two weeks back.. a hearing on whether or not a DISBARRED attorney COULD represent his ex-wife in a civil suit. Understand... he had been DISBARRED over a decade ago.. still is! But the judge allowed him to represent his crazy ex just to keep the money flowing into the "system" In what SANE world would you allow a DISBARRED attorney to represent ANYONE?? it's legal in ALL US JURISDICTIONS for ANYONE to represent the defense, including the defendant himself.. But... HE is not a "defendant".. nor is this a criminal case.. civil litigation based on an onerous lawsuit. He is not involved.. though HE is now REPRESENTING HER.. while being DISBARRED! It is still legal for disbarred attorney to defend a civil litigant in all jurisdictions. He can also have his father, his brother, , his priest, pastor or anyone else act as his attorney and it is perfectly legal. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33337354 Ireland 01/31/2013 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33337354 As I stated... it is not just a texas thing.. it is nationwide. It is a disgusting travesty. The court system is about the money.. I was in front of a judge here two weeks back.. a hearing on whether or not a DISBARRED attorney COULD represent his ex-wife in a civil suit. Understand... he had been DISBARRED over a decade ago.. still is! But the judge allowed him to represent his crazy ex just to keep the money flowing into the "system" In what SANE world would you allow a DISBARRED attorney to represent ANYONE?? it's legal in ALL US JURISDICTIONS for ANYONE to represent the defense, including the defendant himself.. But... HE is not a "defendant".. nor is this a criminal case.. civil litigation based on an onerous lawsuit. He is not involved.. though HE is now REPRESENTING HER.. while being DISBARRED! It is still legal for disbarred attorney to defend a civil litigant in all jurisdictions. He can also have his father, his brother, , his priest, pastor or anyone else act as his attorney and it is perfectly legal. Well it is damn sure a strange first for me.. to see disbarred attorneys filing cases and representing litigants in any court. |
Anon Astro User ID: 1132828 United States 01/31/2013 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anon Astro 1132828 it's legal in ALL US JURISDICTIONS for ANYONE to represent the defense, including the defendant himself.. But... HE is not a "defendant".. nor is this a criminal case.. civil litigation based on an onerous lawsuit. He is not involved.. though HE is now REPRESENTING HER.. while being DISBARRED! It is still legal for disbarred attorney to defend a civil litigant in all jurisdictions. He can also have his father, his brother, , his priest, pastor or anyone else act as his attorney and it is perfectly legal. Well it is damn sure a strange first for me.. to see disbarred attorneys filing cases and representing litigants in any court. Believe it. Disbarred means nothing more than an individual cannot serve as a representative of the BAR or an officer of the court, it DOES NOT preclude that individual from practicing law. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33337354 Ireland 01/31/2013 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33337354 But... HE is not a "defendant".. nor is this a criminal case.. civil litigation based on an onerous lawsuit. He is not involved.. though HE is now REPRESENTING HER.. while being DISBARRED! It is still legal for disbarred attorney to defend a civil litigant in all jurisdictions. He can also have his father, his brother, , his priest, pastor or anyone else act as his attorney and it is perfectly legal. Well it is damn sure a strange first for me.. to see disbarred attorneys filing cases and representing litigants in any court. Believe it. Disbarred means nothing more than an individual cannot serve as a representative of the BAR or an officer of the court, it DOES NOT preclude that individual from practicing law. Oh i know you are right.. but considering past actions one would think a court would see an individual like this one for what he is. He was convicted of stealing retainers.. and trusts and using the money for underage prostitutes and crack. A real piece of work. And you KNOW that if his bothers in arms allowed those convictions... there was no doubt. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33421928 United States 01/31/2013 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Shooting was in the Tax Dept parking lot? 7 schools in lockdown. Quoting: CowgirlK Suspects at large. sorry for the family. one thing though i was so amazed with in the video is that big ole boy said"police got here fast and made me?us feel safe" wow i lived in texas dyring the seventies and thos words "made us feel safe i never heard specially from a mans mouth. back in the 70's guns shooting all the time everywhere. what has happened to people? |
Anon Astro User ID: 1132828 United States 01/31/2013 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anon Astro 1132828 It is still legal for disbarred attorney to defend a civil litigant in all jurisdictions. He can also have his father, his brother, , his priest, pastor or anyone else act as his attorney and it is perfectly legal. Well it is damn sure a strange first for me.. to see disbarred attorneys filing cases and representing litigants in any court. Believe it. Disbarred means nothing more than an individual cannot serve as a representative of the BAR or an officer of the court, it DOES NOT preclude that individual from practicing law. Oh i know you are right.. but considering past actions one would think a court would see an individual like this one for what he is. He was convicted of stealing retainers.. and trusts and using the money for underage prostitutes and crack. A real piece of work. And you KNOW that if his bothers in arms allowed those convictions... there was no doubt. I had a lawyer that not only stole 5000 dollars from me but acted in concert with a local prosecutor by revealing my airtight defense so he could work around it, and a bail bondsman who happened to be the police chiefs wife unbeknownst to me. The bondsman recommended the lawyer. The whole thing was a scam and they're all in it together so it's hard to get one to rat on another. |
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Anon Astro User ID: 1132828 United States 01/31/2013 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ummm I feel for the family buuutttt.Maybe ol boy stole the wrong persons kid It can happen in our corrupt ass legal system. I am afraid due to personal experience I feel absolutely no sympathy. Maybe a bit for the guys kids if he has nay young ones. There is no telling how many innocent people are rotting in prison and how many kids are in hooks of pedophiles because of this guy, but you can bet it is quite a significant number.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33337354 Ireland 01/31/2013 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33337354 Well it is damn sure a strange first for me.. to see disbarred attorneys filing cases and representing litigants in any court. Believe it. Disbarred means nothing more than an individual cannot serve as a representative of the BAR or an officer of the court, it DOES NOT preclude that individual from practicing law. Oh i know you are right.. but considering past actions one would think a court would see an individual like this one for what he is. He was convicted of stealing retainers.. and trusts and using the money for underage prostitutes and crack. A real piece of work. And you KNOW that if his bothers in arms allowed those convictions... there was no doubt. I had a lawyer that not only stole 5000 dollars from me but acted in concert with a local prosecutor by revealing my airtight defense so he could work around it, and a bail bondsman who happened to be the police chiefs wife unbeknownst to me. The bondsman recommended the lawyer. The whole thing was a scam and they're all in it together so it's hard to get one to rat on another. And THAT is the "legal standard" in todays system... pay attention folks.. you may be next! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33424200 United States 01/31/2013 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | During a press conference, Sheriff David Burns and Police Chief Chris Aulbaugh said the assistant DA was heading to misdemeanor court when he was assaulted and gunned down. Quoting: CowgirlK "When you get up into the level, you are really attacking society as a whole because our whole society is based on our criminal justice system and getting our day in court," Burns said. "This is not how to handle our business." [link to www.wfaa.com] A day in court for Justice = Just-us. I don't know if you've noticed or not, but the courts aren't exactly a level playing field. With the largest prison population per capita in the world, one has to wonder if the laws are just. I have no idea what the motives were behind this, maybe someone was force pooled and had their land stolen. maybe someone was brought up on false charges. perhaps they got caught smoking something natural and had their lives destroyed. with all the injustice, one starts to wonder if this was just another criminal act by low lives, or someone who has received no justice by a corrupt use of government force. I do know how they will play this one out in the media though. A valiant defendant of the "LAW" was brutally gunned down in cold blood, and has never done anything wrong to anybody in his entire life. He's never destroyed someones life with the force of government, and he is a brilliant fighter for justice! I don't know, he might be a great guy doing a shitty job that is becoming harder and harder. I've just gotten to where I don't automatically assume that the bad guys wearing black, shot down the good guy wearing white, fighting for right anymore. It's not that simple. Keep this in mind It's ok for the government to murder, steal, lie, spy, manipulate, rig, and never answer for a single crime. Bump to whomever crafted the last sentence of that quote.That should be the quote of the millenium.Well said Sir and a salute tipping cheap Lone Star dark beer |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27801402 United States 01/31/2013 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like Texas, just don't like lair attorneys. If more of them would choke to death, this country would be a lot better off. About time people start getting even with these bastards. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27801402 I think texas needs an enema That's what most gay men say to the other man before anal sex? Right? Is your man named Tex? |
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