I need for this whole charade to collapse before I get ground into financial dust .... | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33467079 United Kingdom 02/01/2013 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Amerika not only lived beyond it's means people really believed it would go on for ever even when all the indicators were heading off the scale. Life is tough when the playing fields are level. Amerika has a long way (still) to fall. The rich and powerful are not going to let go their positions they will hold onto until the edifice collapses. O/P is just mad because he bought into the lie, and is now finding out what real life is like. Welcome to the real world; doff your hat to your masters - like a good boy! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17851333 United States 02/01/2013 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds wonderful in theory, but people here are not being materialistic, they are worried about the most basic things needed for survival, such as some type of roof over their heads. And food, especially if they have children. The problem is that people can't get a life because they can't get a fucking job and you can't move on without money in your pocket. it's not the picture i see, roads are always congested, sign of prosperity, the reality tv shows, show fat belly's tells me food is plentiful most americans live in very nice homes big driveways, detached, spotlessly clean,; unlike here in the uk, congested, unhappy people, taxed to the eye balls, yet people seem to have money for fags, beer, football, car, mortgage, food, bills, savings, kids, school, sound like everyone is doing okay You're so far gone that even watching someone else go down looks like up to you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33460327 United Kingdom 02/01/2013 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Materialism is everything to some. When they lose their connections to their tv's, Iphones, cars etc etc, there will be chaos. You can take that to the bank! yep, the fucked up brigade. like fucking robots waiting to be switched on by the flick of a switch - fucking idiots have been so brainwashed by all the techy shite - survival of the fitest it will be |
GodFrequency (OP) User ID: 33397720 United States 02/01/2013 03:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Amerika had a free ride when the Dollar was backed by all the oil yet to be pumped out of the ground. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33467079 Amerika not only lived beyond it's means people really believed it would go on for ever even when all the indicators were heading off the scale. Life is tough when the playing fields are level. Amerika has a long way (still) to fall. The rich and powerful are not going to let go their positions they will hold onto until the edifice collapses. O/P is just mad because he bought into the lie, and is now finding out what real life is like. Welcome to the real world; doff your hat to your masters - like a good boy! This government has oppressed everyone, and now it is oppressing Amerikans as well. I agree the dollar is collapsing. I just wish it would hurry up, this slow death is painful. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17851333 United States 02/01/2013 03:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The part I don't understand is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30245711 WHat happens once everyone is on the dole? Where do you get the dole? Will they then force people to work as slaces to support the dole? How are they going to force people? Starve them? Why not just let them starve right now? Other totalitarians force them at gunpoint (this is why you do not need a gun) and work them until they fall over, and starve them to death. Labor is cheap in that kind of society. |
CtYankee User ID: 30129105 United States 02/01/2013 03:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thought whenever they shredded the constitution that it would be over, that people would be outraged, yet nothing. It seems like everyone is wanting to pretend as long as they get theirs for just a little longer. Quoting: GodFrequency If government workers, pensioners, and those who receive from the government which is now a majority want to keep pretending, I have finally realized that anyone working for it, saving, or trying to build a future, will have all their labor stolen, and their lives ruined. Yet with a super majority of Americans now hanging on by their fingernails, they are not willing to lose what they believe is entitled to them in a entitlement society I hear many saying the same thing man...they are ready to say fuck it, and go on the dole... I agree....I have my pride but my business is so far down and I have ZERO bone left.....but I WILL NOT TAKE ANY GOVERMENT HANDOUT.....PERIOD!!!! CtYankee "If at first you don't succeed, erase all evidence that you tried." -anonymous -Spouting a fountain of nonsense since 1972- Never met anyone important enough to lie to..... |
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McGuyver User ID: 1586623 United States 02/01/2013 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God, this doesn't even seem like my country anymore, it's definitely not what I was told we were all about. Quoting: GodFrequency We can't even call ourselves free! We can't even claim that we have representation through elected public servants! We can't even say that we have a fair and legal free capitalist society any longer! We can't say that we are fighting for freedom, when we have none, and we are invading and installing banks! We can't say we are a nation of peace, whenever we have become the invaders. We can't claim that we have justice, whenever everyone in government is above the law, and giving all our tax dollars to wall street and the bankers. We are the most spied upon people on the planet THe most indebted nation in history THe largest prison population per capita on earth. The most drugged out society in human existence. We slaughter the unborn by the millions and call the mayans savages for their blood sacrifices. We are disgusting, corrupt, bankrupt, desperate, and dying as a people. Revelation18:4-5 Then I heard another voice from heaven say:“‘Come out of her, my people,so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues;for her sins are piled up to heaven,and God has remembered her crimes. There go I except for the grace of God. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33460327 United Kingdom 02/01/2013 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds wonderful in theory, but people here are not being materialistic, they are worried about the most basic things needed for survival, such as some type of roof over their heads. And food, especially if they have children. The problem is that people can't get a life because they can't get a fucking job and you can't move on without money in your pocket. it's not the picture i see, roads are always congested, sign of prosperity, the reality tv shows, show fat belly's tells me food is plentiful most americans live in very nice homes big driveways, detached, spotlessly clean,; unlike here in the uk, congested, unhappy people, taxed to the eye balls, yet people seem to have money for fags, beer, football, car, mortgage, food, bills, savings, kids, school, sound like everyone is doing okay You're so far gone that even watching someone else go down looks like up to you. WRONG pal, you have to think for yourself and speak as you feel instead of obeying rules by people in suits, speak out in the crowd instead of standing there like zombies waiting for orders - the middle classes are the ones who are screwed up because they've sold their soul's to the system. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States 02/01/2013 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This machine is destroying the middle class. Quoting: GodFrequency It's destroying what jobs I use to have coming in. It's destroyed my industry. It's bailing out the rich through QE welfare candy for wall street, and foodstamp cellphone candy for the poor. Meanwhile the gap is growing, and we are all getting weaker. Yet, everyone I talk to says don't do anything, I've listened for the last three years as one dooms day prediction after another has come and gone. Every time I think the elite are about to be dethroned Icelandic style, they break a law that is totally ignored, never prosecuted, and allows them to keep the charade going for another couple months. Bailouts, money creation, theft like MF Global, laundering money like HSBC, and yet no one goes to jail. I've come to understand that TOO BIG TO FAIL means one thing, it means the destruction of the middle class, and the strip mining of our nation. So many people have lost everything, many others are struggling, and yet even more are cheating, or turning to criminal activity just to survive, including the states that have legalized everything lately except for prostitution. I have no more dreams, and I was a dreamer. There is no future, they've taken that away. Yep. The system is now being artificially held up to a massive degree. Wonder what for. |
Doc Savage Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 31948045 United States 02/01/2013 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God, this doesn't even seem like my country anymore, it's definitely not what I was told we were all about. Quoting: GodFrequency We can't even call ourselves free! We can't even claim that we have representation through elected public servants! We can't even say that we have a fair and legal free capitalist society any longer! We can't say that we are fighting for freedom, when we have none, and we are invading and installing banks! We can't say we are a nation of peace, whenever we have become the invaders. We can't claim that we have justice, whenever everyone in government is above the law, and giving all our tax dollars to wall street and the bankers. We are the most spied upon people on the planet THe most indebted nation in history THe largest prison population per capita on earth. The most drugged out society in human existence. We slaughter the unborn by the millions and call the mayans savages for their blood sacrifices. We are disgusting, corrupt, bankrupt, desperate, and dying as a people. GF, I know it's bad. But it's not going to be like this forever -- or even for very much longer. This implosion of ever-increasing soul rot was seen and prophesied by the Creator many centuries ago. And He promised to return and restore this world -- and us -- to His original intent. He will also bring absolute justice. HIS justice. Believe it: no one who has hurt anyone for any reason is going to get away with it. Every evil, even evil conducted supposedly in secret, has been seen. So don't be despondent, GF. Don't look down or behind you. Look up and ahead. The day of redemption and reckoning is at hand. |
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GodFrequency (OP) User ID: 33397720 United States 02/01/2013 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds wonderful in theory, but people here are not being materialistic, they are worried about the most basic things needed for survival, such as some type of roof over their heads. And food, especially if they have children. The problem is that people can't get a life because they can't get a fucking job and you can't move on without money in your pocket. it's not the picture i see, roads are always congested, sign of prosperity, the reality tv shows, show fat belly's tells me food is plentiful most americans live in very nice homes big driveways, detached, spotlessly clean,; unlike here in the uk, congested, unhappy people, taxed to the eye balls, yet people seem to have money for fags, beer, football, car, mortgage, food, bills, savings, kids, school, sound like everyone is doing okay I see a Charade, a real deficit for 2012 of 6 trillion dollars, not 1.5. I see a charade called stock market, plunge protected, rigged, and QE injected. I see cities like Detroit and others who are glimpses into the future if we do not change coarse now. It's make believe, pretend, propped up, and all the money creation is going into a giant hockey stick called hyperinflation. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33460327 United Kingdom 02/01/2013 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds wonderful in theory, but people here are not being materialistic, they are worried about the most basic things needed for survival, such as some type of roof over their heads. And food, especially if they have children. The problem is that people can't get a life because they can't get a fucking job and you can't move on without money in your pocket. it's not the picture i see, roads are always congested, sign of prosperity, the reality tv shows, show fat belly's tells me food is plentiful most americans live in very nice homes big driveways, detached, spotlessly clean,; unlike here in the uk, congested, unhappy people, taxed to the eye balls, yet people seem to have money for fags, beer, football, car, mortgage, food, bills, savings, kids, school, sound like everyone is doing okay I see a Charade, a real deficit for 2012 of 6 trillion dollars, not 1.5. I see a charade called stock market, plunge protected, rigged, and QE injected. I see cities like Detroit and others who are glimpses into the future if we do not change coarse now. It's make believe, pretend, propped up, and all the money creation is going into a giant hockey stick called hyperinflation. well enjoy the ride, take from it what you can, because thinking doom all the time you'll attract exactly that into your life and you'll always have this problem. all this shit has been going on since the industrial revolution. you'll be long gone before any real change in the world will happen |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14348562 United States 02/01/2013 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its been a slow collapse up to this point, but its been ramping up lately with tightening of the police state, drones, all the post 9/11 crap getting kicked into overdrive, now the gun grab. Unemployment has nowhere to go but up since there simply aren't enough jobs available to the working/middle class, so they have no use for us anymore. Retail is being destroyed by internet commerce, manufacturing has been killed by Chinese slave labor which will then be killed by 3D printing. Local farming has been killed by industrial mega farming. Etc etc. I think you know where I'm going with this. So they know its coming, you know its coming. So my advice is to just wait it out best you can until the actual SHTF. Borrow money if you have to to stay afloat. Its gonna be worthless anyway. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33467079 United Kingdom 02/01/2013 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll tell you what is going wrong with the good ol' US of A... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13483861 After 3/4 of a century of the citizens of the USA (who represent 5% of the world population) using up 1/3 of the worlds resources, the rest of the world has decided they want their share of their own stuff. Either we need to get used to it, or do something about it. Don't worry about it too much, the decision will be made for us. |
biscuits and gravy User ID: 1072087 United States 02/01/2013 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This machine is destroying the middle class. Quoting: GodFrequency It's destroying what jobs I use to have coming in. It's destroyed my industry. It's bailing out the rich through QE welfare candy for wall street, and foodstamp cellphone candy for the poor. Meanwhile the gap is growing, and we are all getting weaker. Yet, everyone I talk to says don't do anything, I've listened for the last three years as one dooms day prediction after another has come and gone. Every time I think the elite are about to be dethroned Icelandic style, they break a law that is totally ignored, never prosecuted, and allows them to keep the charade going for another couple months. Bailouts, money creation, theft like MF Global, laundering money like HSBC, and yet no one goes to jail. I've come to understand that TOO BIG TO FAIL means one thing, it means the destruction of the middle class, and the strip mining of our nation. So many people have lost everything, many others are struggling, and yet even more are cheating, or turning to criminal activity just to survive, including the states that have legalized everything lately except for prostitution. I have no more dreams, and I was a dreamer. There is no future, they've taken that away. Congrat's OP, TPTB want you to feel Defeated and Lost, now you are ready and PRIMED, for Phase-II.... (Full Slavery) and No Will to Fight! One Tequila! Two Tequila! Three Tequila, ...... Floor! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17851333 United States 02/01/2013 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17851333 Sounds wonderful in theory, but people here are not being materialistic, they are worried about the most basic things needed for survival, such as some type of roof over their heads. And food, especially if they have children. The problem is that people can't get a life because they can't get a fucking job and you can't move on without money in your pocket. it's not the picture i see, roads are always congested, sign of prosperity, the reality tv shows, show fat belly's tells me food is plentiful most americans live in very nice homes big driveways, detached, spotlessly clean,; unlike here in the uk, congested, unhappy people, taxed to the eye balls, yet people seem to have money for fags, beer, football, car, mortgage, food, bills, savings, kids, school, sound like everyone is doing okay You're so far gone that even watching someone else go down looks like up to you. WRONG pal, you have to think for yourself and speak as you feel instead of obeying rules by people in suits, speak out in the crowd instead of standing there like zombies waiting for orders - the middle classes are the ones who are screwed up because they've sold their soul's to the system. I am not afraid to be poor, I was raised that way. So, any transition is not going to be nearly as painful for me as it will be for most of the others. You pick up a lot of skills by being raised that way. What is middle class these days, anyway? Someone who is not on welfare of some type of govt. money, that defines middle class here right now. |
Copperhead User ID: 24964643 United States 02/01/2013 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AT LEAST YOU ARE AWAKE!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33429760 If you know what's coming you can prepare for it. A financial collapse is for certain. If you had the debt/credit/income ratio that the government has and went to a bank, they would LAUGH at you. This can't go on. Tax his land, Tax his bed, Tax the table, At which he's fed. Tax his tractor, Tax his mule, Teach him taxes Are the rule. Tax his work, Tax his pay, He works for peanuts anyway! Tax his cow, Tax his goat, Tax his pants, Tax his coat. Tax his ties, Tax his shirt, Tax his work, Tax his dirt. Tax his tobacco, Tax his drink, Tax him if he Tries to think. Tax his cigars, Tax his beers, If he cries Tax his tears. Tax his car, Tax his gas, Find other ways To tax his ass. Tax all he has Then let him know That you won't be done Till he has no dough. When he screams and hollers; Then tax him some more, Tax him till He's good and sore. Then tax his coffin, Tax his grave, Tax the sod in Which he's laid... Put these words Upon his tomb, 'Taxes drove me to my doom...' When he's gone, Do not relax, Its time to apply The inheritance tax. Accounts Receivable Tax Building Permit Tax CDL license Tax Cigarette Tax Corporate Income Tax Dog License Tax Excise Taxes Federal Income Tax Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA) Fishing License Tax Food License Tax Fuel Permit Tax Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon) Gross Receipts Tax Hunting License Tax Inheritance Tax Inventory Tax IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax) Liquor Tax Luxury Taxes Marriage License Tax Medicare Tax Payroll Tax Personal Property Tax Property Tax Real Estate Tax Service Charge Tax Social Security Tax Road Usage Tax Recreational Vehicle Tax Sales Tax School Tax State Income Tax State Unemployment Tax (SUTA) Telephone Federal Excise Tax Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax Telephone Recurring and Nonrecurring Charges Tax Telephone State and Local Tax Telephone Usage Charge Tax Utility Taxes Vehicle License Registration Tax Vehicle Sales Tax Watercraft Registration Tax Well Permit Tax Workers Compensation Tax |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33460327 United Kingdom 02/01/2013 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's the fucked up middle classes who have brought all this shit about with their fucking moronic materialistic shit they've been brainwashed into believing. the prats who prane around in suits in their 2.0L diesel audi's and bmw - the classes that will make the world fall Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33460327 Totally, completely clueless. Where a clue should be is filled with ignorant envy. :offs: clueless, huuuuh, you sound like a shirt and tie do as i do prat, stand up and be counted brigade - go rub your arse in some shit dude - cause you brainwashed moron has caused all this shit Hmm. I'll tell you what, since you can't converse in English, how about you tell me what language you're moderately capable of using, and I'll address you using it. :hick: my english is impeccable, the british have been around a lot longer than you american's and it is us who brought it to you. so don't detract form the topic because of a few grammatical and spelling errors, just shows you ignorance and vision in the world, bit tunnel visioned due to you being a SUIT |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33467079 United Kingdom 02/01/2013 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you have to think for yourself and speak as you feel instead of obeying rules by people in suits, speak out in the crowd instead of standing there like zombies waiting for orders - the middle classes are the ones who are screwed up because they've sold their soul's to the system. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33460327 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33460327 United Kingdom 02/01/2013 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Congrat's OP, Quoting: biscuits and gravy TPTB want you to feel Defeated and Lost, now you are ready and PRIMED, for Phase-II.... (Full Slavery) and No Will to Fight! Au contrair. A man with nothing left to lose is a man with no limits. Well said. i agree too, bu what about a man in a suit and drives a diesel bmw and loses that? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31762674 United States 02/01/2013 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are the most spied upon people on the planet Quoting: GodFrequency THe most indebted nation in history THe largest prison population per capita on earth. The most drugged out society in human existence. We slaughter the unborn by the millions and call the mayans savages for their blood sacrifices. We are disgusting, corrupt, bankrupt, desperate, and dying as a people. And most US flags are made in China. That pretty much symbolizes what we've become. It's so sad. |
0311INFANTRYSIR User ID: 969484 United States 02/01/2013 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is good to hear that normal people are finally getting fed up with the bullshit. Because this means that it is only a matter of time, before we "bear arms" and take back our country. This time is short. It must be done. People are finally getting to their breaking point, this is a good thing. "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote" ~ Benjamin Franklin. |
WhiteLight User ID: 19401718 United States 02/01/2013 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This machine is destroying the middle class. Quoting: GodFrequency It's destroying what jobs I use to have coming in. It's destroyed my industry. It's bailing out the rich through QE welfare candy for wall street, and foodstamp cellphone candy for the poor. Meanwhile the gap is growing, and we are all getting weaker. Yet, everyone I talk to says don't do anything, I've listened for the last three years as one dooms day prediction after another has come and gone. Every time I think the elite are about to be dethroned Icelandic style, they break a law that is totally ignored, never prosecuted, and allows them to keep the charade going for another couple months. Bailouts, money creation, theft like MF Global, laundering money like HSBC, and yet no one goes to jail. I've come to understand that TOO BIG TO FAIL means one thing, it means the destruction of the middle class, and the strip mining of our nation. So many people have lost everything, many others are struggling, and yet even more are cheating, or turning to criminal activity just to survive, including the states that have legalized everything lately except for prostitution. I have no more dreams, and I was a dreamer. There is no future, they've taken that away. I am in the same boat you are OP. This has gotten so depressing. Lost my business over a year ago and the money I thought would come in on residuals well.. it is now next to nothing. No unemployment no money not even paying all the bills. I don't have a solution just a coping mechanism. Get some sort of hobby, keep your hands busy. Control the banter in your head as much as possible. Meditate. Get right with God. I feel that it will break at some point right when we think it won't. It is said that it will be the darkness before the dawn for a while yet. Look at this as a short term situation. I am sure that the people alive in 1776 were too busy feeding themselves and their families to get caught up like we are today..in the minutia of the Politic. That is what I can say and know that MANY are experiencing the same thing. Put your good mind to work visualizing a better tomorrow where the Dark Forces are defeated. Too much depression and no positives, feed on its own negative energy. Get outside when it is sunny and work in the dirt if you can.. that always cheers me up. Spring will come. Our Federal Government is so corrupt no amount of words, actions or legality will change it. So it must topple of it's own dark weight. See it. Know the White light....will heal.. I am a Child of God |