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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33389306 United States 02/07/2013 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Greece doesn't have handouts or the problems that come with them. People are taking care of themselves by getting room mates, moving in with family or moving out to the country to start back farming. They are still a proud people who would rather live in their cars until they get back on their feet. Our country is filling up with white Brits and Ozzies. Escaping for a better life here. Lucky we like your freakazoid accents because we ain't the most welcoming bunch. Ppl moving from .au to .ca ? From a warm place with plenty of space to a cold one? Granted I don't know all the problems in .au but still ... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33259289 United Kingdom 02/07/2013 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone who receives tax payers money either benefits or wages is a fucking scrounger full stop...including the lawyers who get paid legal aid...fucking dirty parasites the lot of them...they should all get fuck all..... Quoting: johnny conger 33407775 Yes, paying for good schools is so much better than the government funded ones. One even learns about punctuation. Well to be honest most of the people who claim benefits went to government funded ones, you don't see many people from Eton, Harrow etc claiming benefit . Not saying there isn't but if you want to throw that one out there be prepared to have it thrown back. I went to a comp. got an education, didn't go to Uni, but I've ended up in a better job than my parents and a better house, worked for it save d for it and t be honest I'm sick and fucking tired of paying towards 180 billion welfare bill So fuck off So we paid for your education then, huh? We gave you welfare to fund your teachers the entire time you were raised and you don't want to pay it back because you think you're now better than your parents who couldn't afford tuition and had to depend on the state? You must really hate your parents and be full of self loathing over there. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33730709 Canada 02/07/2013 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Greece doesn't have handouts or the problems that come with them. People are taking care of themselves by getting room mates, moving in with family or moving out to the country to start back farming. They are still a proud people who would rather live in their cars until they get back on their feet. Our country is filling up with white Brits and Ozzies. Escaping for a better life here. Lucky we like your freakazoid accents because we ain't the most welcoming bunch. Ppl moving from .au to .ca ? From a warm place with plenty of space to a cold one? Granted I don't know all the problems in .au but still ... I live in a small city of 60,000 and it is full of Ozzies and Brits. Our guberment has hired two Oztard Doctors to be chief doctor in charge of vaccine distribution. A lot work at Costco. I like that accent Makes a good looking chick hotter. The dudes can stay in their country and send the hot chicks over. We will keep them warm! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33730709 Canada 02/07/2013 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone who receives tax payers money either benefits or wages is a fucking scrounger full stop...including the lawyers who get paid legal aid...fucking dirty parasites the lot of them...they should all get fuck all..... Quoting: johnny conger 33407775 Yes, paying for good schools is so much better than the government funded ones. One even learns about punctuation. Well to be honest most of the people who claim benefits went to government funded ones, you don't see many people from Eton, Harrow etc claiming benefit . Not saying there isn't but if you want to throw that one out there be prepared to have it thrown back. I went to a comp. got an education, didn't go to Uni, but I've ended up in a better job than my parents and a better house, worked for it save d for it and t be honest I'm sick and fucking tired of paying towards 180 billion welfare bill So fuck off So we paid for your education then, huh? We gave you welfare to fund your teachers the entire time you were raised and you don't want to pay it back because you think you're now better than your parents who couldn't afford tuition and had to depend on the state? You must really hate your parents and be full of self loathing over there. You are defending a failed state. Get the fuck out while you still can. The UK is an unmitigated fucking disaster. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33792358 United Kingdom 02/07/2013 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone who receives tax payers money either benefits or wages is a fucking scrounger full stop...including the lawyers who get paid legal aid...fucking dirty parasites the lot of them...they should all get fuck all..... Quoting: johnny conger 33407775 Yes, paying for good schools is so much better than the government funded ones. One even learns about punctuation. Well to be honest most of the people who claim benefits went to government funded ones, you don't see many people from Eton, Harrow etc claiming benefit . Not saying there isn't but if you want to throw that one out there be prepared to have it thrown back. I went to a comp. got an education, didn't go to Uni, but I've ended up in a better job than my parents and a better house, worked for it save d for it and t be honest I'm sick and fucking tired of paying towards 180 billion welfare bill So fuck off So we paid for your education then, huh? We gave you welfare to fund your teachers the entire time you were raised and you don't want to pay it back because you think you're now better than your parents who couldn't afford tuition and had to depend on the state? You must really hate your parents and be full of self loathing over there. He works and pays tax, and his family did therefore he paid. The education he/she received at the taxpayers expense has gone back into the economy in labor and goods etc! How would paying for a lifetime of social housing benefit anybody else other than the recipient? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33259289 United Kingdom 02/07/2013 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: The Lump Under the Carpet Yes, paying for good schools is so much better than the government funded ones. One even learns about punctuation. Well to be honest most of the people who claim benefits went to government funded ones, you don't see many people from Eton, Harrow etc claiming benefit . Not saying there isn't but if you want to throw that one out there be prepared to have it thrown back. I went to a comp. got an education, didn't go to Uni, but I've ended up in a better job than my parents and a better house, worked for it save d for it and t be honest I'm sick and fucking tired of paying towards 180 billion welfare bill So fuck off So we paid for your education then, huh? We gave you welfare to fund your teachers the entire time you were raised and you don't want to pay it back because you think you're now better than your parents who couldn't afford tuition and had to depend on the state? You must really hate your parents and be full of self loathing over there. You are defending a failed state. Get the fuck out while you still can. The UK is an unmitigated fucking disaster. I was just talking to a product of that state. He thinks he is doing just fine and isn't failed as a human being. Just ask him, he even has savings to prove it. |
Judethz User ID: 20521597 United Kingdom 02/07/2013 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not as drastic as OP is making out. Basically people in social housing, with more bedrooms than they use will be asked to pay up or relocate. They will be allowed to sublet the spare room to cover the tax if they choose to. Quoting: NSF001 I agree. One or two people shouldn't be living in a three bed house on the taxpayers dime. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33259289 United Kingdom 02/07/2013 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: The Lump Under the Carpet Yes, paying for good schools is so much better than the government funded ones. One even learns about punctuation. Well to be honest most of the people who claim benefits went to government funded ones, you don't see many people from Eton, Harrow etc claiming benefit . Not saying there isn't but if you want to throw that one out there be prepared to have it thrown back. I went to a comp. got an education, didn't go to Uni, but I've ended up in a better job than my parents and a better house, worked for it save d for it and t be honest I'm sick and fucking tired of paying towards 180 billion welfare bill So fuck off So we paid for your education then, huh? We gave you welfare to fund your teachers the entire time you were raised and you don't want to pay it back because you think you're now better than your parents who couldn't afford tuition and had to depend on the state? You must really hate your parents and be full of self loathing over there. He works and pays tax, and his family did therefore he paid. The education he/she received at the taxpayers expense has gone back into the economy in labor and goods etc! How would paying for a lifetime of social housing benefit anybody else other than the recipient? Do you have any idea how much we paid to educate that little worthless thing so that he could come and whine about people that are in the same lower income bracket that he was as a child? He's a hypocrite. At least my tuition was paid out of pocket and not by taxes. If anything I have more right to complain about scroungers like him than he does. For Christ sake, he's complaining about himself. |
Lips Of Lucifer User ID: 13948941 South Africa 02/07/2013 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Greece doesn't have handouts or the problems that come with them. People are taking care of themselves by getting room mates, moving in with family or moving out to the country to start back farming. They are still a proud people who would rather live in their cars until they get back on their feet. Our country is filling up with white Brits and Ozzies. Escaping for a better life here. Lucky we like your freakazoid accents because we ain't the most welcoming bunch. We'll it's either the big empty or the Big red. Just make sure Canada lets in the Best and the Brightest. You will be the next Global economic super-power. The US and UK opened their borders to cheap labor in an compulsively pathetic greedy attempt to lower wage demands and fuck with worker unions for instant fun. China is a cheap unsustainable economic joke that sends Multinational spokesmen into an orgasmic circle-jerk. Careful who you vote for and let in..The example is out there and it's as ugly as David Scamoran, the half white or Bibi Nuttyyahoo Last Edited by Lips Of Lucifer on 02/07/2013 02:59 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33792358 United Kingdom 02/07/2013 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are defending a failed state. Get the fuck out while you still can. The UK is an unmitigated fucking disaster. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33730709 If the great collapse is coming nowhere will be safe in the west. If anything north america may well be more dangerous as every city will probably turn into sarajevo. The US has a high density of firearms, and those guns will flood canada too. You may even get militias and crap fleeing the US and crossing the border into canada. If the US government cant stop the rioting and disorder you think the border will hold up? not a chance. Imagine every major US city 10x worse than katrina with it being unsafe in the day from sniper fire. This is of course ignoring the potential for another world war. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33730709 Canada 02/07/2013 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not as drastic as OP is making out. Basically people in social housing, with more bedrooms than they use will be asked to pay up or relocate. They will be allowed to sublet the spare room to cover the tax if they choose to. Quoting: NSF001 :9teen: I agree. One or two people shouldn't be living in a three bed house on the taxpayers dime. Taxpayers should not be funding housing...period! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33792358 United Kingdom 02/07/2013 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you have any idea how much we paid to educate that little worthless thing so that he could come and whine about people that are in the same lower income bracket that he was as a child? He's a hypocrite. At least my tuition was paid out of pocket and not by taxes. If anything I have more right to complain about scroungers like him than he does. Quoting: The Lump Under the Carpet For Christ sake, he's complaining about himself. Well his anger might be misdirected. But as other people in this thread have said. most people don't have issue with the welfare state existing to help people... a stepping stone to give them a helping hand. What myself and other people in this thread are sick of is benefit hordes scrounging for their entire lives off of the welfare state and contributing nothing back. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33792358 United Kingdom 02/07/2013 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not as drastic as OP is making out. Basically people in social housing, with more bedrooms than they use will be asked to pay up or relocate. They will be allowed to sublet the spare room to cover the tax if they choose to. Quoting: NSF001 :9teen: I agree. One or two people shouldn't be living in a three bed house on the taxpayers dime. Taxpayers should not be funding housing...period! There is a good argument for that. People used to live with extended family until they could afford a place. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33407775 United Kingdom 02/07/2013 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone who receives tax payers money either benefits or wages is a fucking scrounger full stop...including the lawyers who get paid legal aid...fucking dirty parasites the lot of them...they should all get fuck all..... Quoting: johnny conger 33407775 Yes, paying for good schools is so much better than the government funded ones. One even learns about punctuation. Well to be honest most of the people who claim benefits went to government funded ones, you don't see many people from Eton, Harrow etc claiming benefit . Not saying there isn't but if you want to throw that one out there be prepared to have it thrown back. I went to a comp. got an education, didn't go to Uni, but I've ended up in a better job than my parents and a better house, worked for it save d for it and t be honest I'm sick and fucking tired of paying towards 180 billion welfare bill So fuck off So we paid for your education then, huh? We gave you welfare to fund your teachers the entire time you were raised and you don't want to pay it back because you think you're now better than your parents who couldn't afford tuition and had to depend on the state? You must really hate your parents and be full of self loathing over there. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33792504 United Kingdom 02/07/2013 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This makes me think of that phrase 'daylight robbery' and how it came to be. For those who don't know that phrase comes from England around 1700 when there was a tax put in place on properties with a certain amount of windows, and people enmassed started bricking up and blacking out / blocking out windows. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33259289 United Kingdom 02/07/2013 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you have any idea how much we paid to educate that little worthless thing so that he could come and whine about people that are in the same lower income bracket that he was as a child? He's a hypocrite. At least my tuition was paid out of pocket and not by taxes. If anything I have more right to complain about scroungers like him than he does. Quoting: The Lump Under the Carpet For Christ sake, he's complaining about himself. Well his anger might be misdirected. But as other people in this thread have said. most people don't have issue with the welfare state existing to help people... a stepping stone to give them a helping hand. What myself and other people in this thread are sick of is benefit hordes scrounging for their entire lives off of the welfare state and contributing nothing back. I will explain the game once. The only people that complain about the poor are the poor and working poor. They whine that the other guy got more benefits, that the other guy stayed on benefits longer, that they are miserable "working their fingers to the bone" so they want company in their misery...so of course it should be the other miserable sod. They claim they are the only success story, or the only one worthy and that everyone else is a loser. The wealthy don't have to do a thing other than run an article in a paper suggesting that poor people are worthless and deserving of less, and then poor run with it and eat each other alive and the cuts are made. It's the way the game is run. I cannot change it. The poor will always hate the poor. And yes, if you are hurt by the amount of taxes you are paying, then you are not financially comfortable and you are in fact working poor. Sadly, I'm not making this up. On an emotional level it makes me want to slam my head into a wall watching you people self harm into oblivion. On an academic and professional level I applaud the effective psychology and strategy that gets you to play right into the trap. You didn't really think your taxes would go down because the poor got less, did you? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32920999 United Kingdom 02/07/2013 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not only that but if you have two children under the age of 10 years in two separate rooms then they have to pay the tax as the two children (whether girl and boy) need only one bed room accourding to the government. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11963746 United States 02/07/2013 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what are you candy ass tards going to riot with ? hah your riots ain't worth shit Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24291937 Oh really? You obviously don't remember the Poll Tax riots... I can't remember seeing any Americans rioting with their precious guns either... L.A. Riots.... lots of smoke poles used there. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33566476 United Kingdom 02/07/2013 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what are you candy ass tards going to riot with ? hah your riots ain't worth shit Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24291937 Oh really? You obviously don't remember the Poll Tax riots... I can't remember seeing any Americans rioting with their precious guns either... L.A. Riots.... lots of smoke poles used there. And those riots achieved what? The poll tax was abolished. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33407775 United Kingdom 02/07/2013 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you have any idea how much we paid to educate that little worthless thing so that he could come and whine about people that are in the same lower income bracket that he was as a child? He's a hypocrite. At least my tuition was paid out of pocket and not by taxes. If anything I have more right to complain about scroungers like him than he does. Quoting: The Lump Under the Carpet For Christ sake, he's complaining about himself. Well his anger might be misdirected. But as other people in this thread have said. most people don't have issue with the welfare state existing to help people... a stepping stone to give them a helping hand. What myself and other people in this thread are sick of is benefit hordes scrounging for their entire lives off of the welfare state and contributing nothing back. I will explain the game once. The only people that complain about the poor are the poor and working poor. They whine that the other guy got more benefits, that the other guy stayed on benefits longer, that they are miserable "working their fingers to the bone" so they want company in their misery...so of course it should be the other miserable sod. They claim they are the only success story, or the only one worthy and that everyone else is a loser. The wealthy don't have to do a thing other than run an article in a paper suggesting that poor people are worthless and deserving of less, and then poor run with it and eat each other alive and the cuts are made. It's the way the game is run. I cannot change it. The poor will always hate the poor. And yes, if you are hurt by the amount of taxes you are paying, then you are not financially comfortable and you are in fact working poor. Sadly, I'm not making this up. On an emotional level it makes me want to slam my head into a wall watching you people self harm into oblivion. On an academic and professional level I applaud the effective psychology and strategy that gets you to play right into the trap. You didn't really think your taxes would go down because the poor got less, did you? You talk a lot of shit carpets...the higher up the class ladder you are the bigger the fucking sponger you are...only difference is you don't get it paid with a gyro that you had too sign up once a fortnight for...I am sick a tired of paying for arseholes like you...without the working man you are nothing...I dont suppose you are even capable of a days fucking work let alone support your fucking self...... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33854599 Thailand 02/07/2013 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I want to know is, when did the reduction in a handout become a "tax"? Tell you what, I'll gladly pay a $25,000 yearly tax if it's in the form of the government promising to give me $100,000 per year but only giving me $75,000. This terminology is the same left-wing spin that makes a reduction in the rate of increase in spending on something a "budget cut", and the government graciously allowing to keep your money an "expenditure" that has to be offset by tax increases elsewhere. The fact that people even adopt these weasel words without thinking is one of the reasons they are so easily led. And misled. To defeat the left-wing spin in this case, simply insist that you call the proposal what it is: A "right-size house incentive", designed to make sure that smaller families are encouraged to live in smaller houses, and larger families have access to larger houses. It's a hell of a lot to argue for a "right-size house incentive"than it is to argue for a "bedroom tax". |
violentoppisition User ID: 1403272 United States 02/07/2013 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what are you candy ass tards going to riot with ? hah your riots ain't worth shit Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24291937 Oh really? You obviously don't remember the Poll Tax riots... I can't remember seeing any Americans rioting with their precious guns either... that would not be a riot, that would be a war. That tax it's shit and i hope all you brits freak the fuck out on your government and get that and more handled! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32734829 United Kingdom 02/07/2013 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think civil unrest is very close. I am not sure how long it will take but when it does I hope it kicks off in a big way. Look how inept the government was during the last riots and that was just a bunch of chavs robbing tv's and odd trainers. Maybe when all the Bulgarians and Romanians are given the green light to emigrate that will be the straw that breaks the camels back? |
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