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Beware: A President who justifies secret drone killings of Americans can justify anything

 
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Beware: A President who justifies secret drone killings of Americans can justify anything

Tuesday, February 05, 2013
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger
Editor of NaturalNews.com (See all articles...)

The U.S. Justice Department has just released a 16-page memo outlining its justification for why President Obama can order drone killings of American citizens. The paper is a wild tour of bizarro-land justifications from a government that no longer abides by any Constitutional limits or even principles of human rights.

As NBC News frighteningly reports:

A confidential Justice Department memo concludes that the U.S. government can order the killing of American citizens if they are believed to be "senior operational leaders" of al-Qaida or "an associated force" -- even if there is no intelligence indicating they are engaged in an active plot to attack the U.S.

White House press secretary Jay Carney, the mouthpiece of tyranny and lawlessness in America today, added that "These strikes are legal, they are ethical and they are wise." (FreeBeacon.com)

Thus, the idea that an American citizen receives a trial by jury, a defense attorney, due process of law and an ability to face his accusers is utterly thrown out the window. What this memo essentially "legalizes" is the ability of the U.S. President to simply order the murder of anyone he names. No law needs to be followed. No arguments offered. There does not even need to be a single shred of evidence that this person has violated any law whatsoever. The decision process takes place in total secrecy and is not subject to judicial review of any kind.

The President has become a dictator
There's no other way to say it: This is tyranny. A President who has the power to kill anyone he wishes, completely outside of law and the Constitution, is a dictatorial tyrant. He is a "king." This is precisely the kind of thing our Founding Fathers fought against in breaking away from the King of England. Our ancestors were fed up with secret trials, secret executions, secret court proceedings and suffering under the whims of one man whose power was completely unchecked.

"If you believe the president has the power to order U.S. citizens executed far from any battlefield with no charges or trial, then itís truly hard to conceive of any asserted power you would find objectionable," writes constitutional lawyer Glenn Greenwald. He goes on to explain:

The memo isn't justifying the due-process-free execution of senior al-Qaida leaders who pose an imminent threat to the US. It is justifying the due-process-free execution of people secretly accused by the president and his underlings, with no due process, of being that. The distinction between (a) government accusations and (b) proof of guilt is central to every free society, by definition, yet this memo - and those who defend Obama's assassination power - willfully ignore it.

This isn't even an Obama issue, by the way: it's an issue of the next President who comes to power, and the one after that. With this Justice Department memo, the office of the President is being granted permanent power to order the killing of any person added to a list. This power is wildly unconstitutional and illegal, yet if it remains unopposed, it is a power that will be retained by the office of the President and used by future Presidents.

As Greenwald writes:

During the early Bush years, the very idea that the US government asserted the power to imprison US citizens without charges and due process (or to eavesdrop on them) was so radical that, at the time, I could hardly believe they were being asserted out in the open.

Yet here we are almost a full decade later. And we have the current president asserting the power not merely to imprison or eavesdrop on US citizens without charges or trial, but to order them executed - and to do so in total secrecy, with no checks or oversight.

But all this isn't even the big story here. The bigger story is found in the title of this article: If the Obama administration would justify drone killings of U.S. citizens, is there anything they can't justify?

Every violation of law and the Constitution can be justified with a "legal memo"
I'm not sure where in the Constitution it says, "...unless a legal memo says otherwise." The U.S. Constitution and its Bill of Rights lay out immutable rules, limits and guidelines for government. But when an oppressive government regime decides to utterly ignore the Constitution and the limits of power described therein, it become a dictatorial tyranny. We are there now in America.


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Trilateral Commission founder Brzezinski: easier to kill 1M people than control 1M people


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Jefferson really knew his stuff. A voice from the past to lead us in the future:

John F. Kennedy held a dinner in the white House for a group of the brightest minds in the nation at that time. He made this statement: "This is perhaps the assembly of the most intelligence ever to gather at one time in the White House with the exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone."

"When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe ."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical."
-- Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.

If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property - until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."


I wish we could get this out to everyone!

I'm doing my part. Please do yours.
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I never thought we would see this from our own government. This doesn't even feel like American any longer, the land of the free.
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The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
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Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

Matthew 25:31-34
When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.

Democrats do and always have loved poor people. . . they continue to make so many of them.


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“Accuse Your Enemy Of What You Are Doing, As You Are Doing It To Create Confusion” - Karl Marx (Common tool of the left)

Furthermore, I consider that islam must be destroyed.
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President Barack Obama takes oath of office for second term


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WHILE YOU WERE SLEEPING


While you were sleeping

you saw evil all around and did not recognize it

you heard deception yet did not seek truth

you smelled the stench of death and did not mourn

you proclaimed "I am proud to be an american"

you were told we must fight evil

you were told we must defeat those who would harm us

you were told these things and more

from the mouths of liars who speak those words of themselves

you were told we are the greatest nation on earth

the most righteous, the chosen, the Light of the World

God bless america you proclaimed

but your ignorance has blinded you

your apathy has hidden from you

that which america has become

and now is

and many will realize but too late

that america is changed forever

changed from what the founders envisioned

the great opportunity to create a nation

principled in the knowledge of the truth

that each individual

has supremely endowed rights

that cannot be subjugated

by men or groups of men

changed to the naked truth

that is now revealed

that america is but another worldly empire

intent on destruction

principled on greed

principled on hatred

principled on lust

principled on deceit

clothed in the deceptive cloak of righteousness

while rotting from within

holding hostage the willing and unwilling

extorting, deceiving those from whom it is made

punishing, ostracizing those among the many

who remain vigilant

America the whore,

america, the ruthless beastof darkness

as the sheep are led to slaughter

so you will be among their numbers

a hundred, thousand, million, and more

one of the flock of those who like you

were lulled to sleep by the empty promise of gratification

and by the false promise of riches and comfort

incited by visions of far-away conquerors

ignoring the cries of the vanquished

fearful of suffering and without dignity

fostering indifference and intolerance

told lies many in number

by those whom you believe are righteous

you who are content to sleep in comfort

and dream of possibilities of profit and entertainment

you accept lies as truth

injustice as justice

wealth as prosperity

slavery as freedom

you slumber in your righteousness

not remembering nor caring what is freedom

not knowing justice

not knowing truth

death is your mantra

your eyes have been blinded

your ears have been deafened

your heart has been hardened

you cannot see your own tomorrow

even for the sake of the ones

that will come after you

The fruit has fallen away

and spoiled with decay

and now the tree bears no fruit

for as the caretakers sleep

the tree withers and becomes lifeless

and with the passing of time

your children will awaken

and when their suffering becomes too great to bear

then they will cry out

I see the evil

I hear the deception

I smell the stench of death

I seek the truth

I seek justice

I seek freedom

and for them the struggle to escape from the bondage

you have willfully left as their inheritance

will be their struggle

faint memories and haunting ghosts of Freedom

will be of no consequence

for it is to be their struggle

to regain that which was lost

by the complacency of their forefathers

and perhaps they will know in their hearts

that they are worthy of the Freedom

that many before them had denied and forgotten

that they are more than what they have been born into

and so it came to passwhile you were sleeping

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Ain't Nothing Like It Used To Be


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"Legal, ethical, and wise." says Jay Carney.

We're not in Kansas anymore.
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I never thought we would see this from our own government. This doesn't even feel like American any longer, the land of the free.
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Where do we go from here?

I got tortured in my home, my truck, my hotel rooms, and finally my father's home. Directed Energy Weapons. Mind Control RFID Verichip involuntarily inserted in my skull.

The DEW attacks occurred from portable devices...and also from the sky (I was sleeping in my truck on BLM Fed lands and there was no one within miles of me?).

The drones are fitted with "see through wall" millimeter wave microwave...which can be used to locate, identify...and also assault.

Makes your muscles ache, spasm...and I've felt it walk up my legs go up to my chest and head.

When they turn up the heat.....you'll be amazed at how annoying it all is.

They also have realtime neural monitoring of your brain and thoughts...and, that chip is placed near the optic nerve for a reason: they see, what I see.

Most invasive is using psychotronics to tamper with and prevent Deep Rapid Eye Movement Sleep (the dream state). This will totally screw you up: impairs cognitive functioning, leaves you exhausted if Deep REM sleep is interrupted.

Drones are assaultive torture devices....hard to hide from...nead to build a barrier out of lead to protect the head.

Long term exposure...likely to create a brain tumor or stroke.

I'm not a happy camper....not in control of vital inalienable rights.

They did that to Geral Sosbee as well....nobody helped him, and he gave up on the court system as I have done also.
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Obama Justifies Executing Americans Without Evidence



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You can always disappear

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