Windows 8 vs. OS X Mountain Lion

Stick with Windows 7. Windows 8 is crap, shoving a touch-screen interface ("Metro") onto the desktop. Looks absolutely horrible on a computer, and is a complete nuisance to handle with a mouse.

OS X is "better" in some ways, looking nicer and so on, but it's also leading the way in taking fascist control over the software market. A third-party developer can't sell an app that runs on the Mac without paying Apple for the privilege! If you don't pay up, the OS will refuse to run your app, under a BS pretext of "security".

The truth is, Apple wants there to only be ONE way to get an app onto your computer: Apple Store. And they want to decide for every single app if its allowed to exist or not, and how much the developer has to pay them for the privilege of making apps for their platform. That's the future they are pushing. Do you really want to support that?

I sure don't.

Windows 7 is a FINE OS, and it can last us many years yet, in case Microsoft don't come to their senses and fix the Metro crapola.

Stick with Windows 7. Windows 8 will make you hate PC's.

I've been using, building, and repairing PC's since 1994. My first PC OS was Windows 3.11 for Workgroups on a 486SX 25mhz Packard Bell. Up until the last week I had very little exposure to macs. I've used Linux in the past on many different occasions for months at a time but unfortunately always found my way back to Microsoft OS's.

Right now I am typing this message on a Mac-mini 2010 model that I just got for a hell of a deal. I upgraded it to Mountain Lion and even with only 2 gigabytes of memory I find the system running pretty well. Once I upgrade it to 8 gb of ram the thing is surely going to be an excellent little machine.

I have a windows 8 AMD machine I just built on a monitor right beside this one. So in front of me I have the newest flavors of both Apple and Microsoft OS's

I can tell you that Windows 8 with the Stardock start bar replacement runs better on my machine than Windows 7. I use Windows 8 just like Windows 7 that way and if I want to use one of their new apps I can hit the right windows key on my keyboard and it will bring up the Metro UI. Windows 8 is not a bad OS with the start bar replacement, and I am not ashamed to admit that I like it.


So no matter which way you go a Mac with ML or Windows 8 with the start bar replacement you are going to be happy.


It's up to you which way you go. But I got to tell you i'm really digging this Mac. Though that may have a lot to do with the magic mouse wireless keyboard and a computer that is a little over an inch tall and only 7 inches square.

Total bull Swedish guy!

You cannot sell an app in the Mac App store without paying 30%, but there is a big independent market for applications – where do you think Microsoft, Adobe, Autodesk and the other bis software houses sell their software for the Mac? Not in the Mac App store!

Besides there is a very big open source offering as most Unix / Linux / FreeBSD applications will compile and run fine on Mac OS X - Gimp, LibreOffice just to mention 2.

In addition you can run Windows, including the Windows 7 license you already own in free environments like Wine or Sun's Virtualbox, or with paid offerings like vmware Fusion or Parallells.

Do a litte research before you spout ;-)

I don't think that guy knows the difference between a Mac and an iPad

And Microsoft introduced the same kind of app store in windows 8 anyway

On the Mac under "System Preferences" ->"Security & Privacy" -> Click "Allow Applications Downloaded From Anywhere"

Now you can run any application.

On my Mac, I cant plug it into a 1080P TV via HDMI. It looks like garbage. But put Windows 7 on another partition with the same setup and it "Just Works".

On my Mac, before I can print to the IP printer connected to my router, I must restart the mdsResponder service for it to recognize the printer. Windows 7
"Just Works".

Windows 8 is just Windows 7 with a fucked up Start Menu.

Back in the XP days I decided to try Linux and learned something very important. My brain is hardwired for Windows I could do anything I want with it and with the daily stress of life Linux is not what I needed. I then decided to get a Mac with that in mind, and it was even worse than Linux. So I say Windows 8. It's faster than Windows 7, works like Windows 7 and the only difference is that the Start menu takes up the whole screen. If not stay with Windows 7. I bought Windows 8 a month ago because of the $40 special and I still haven't installed it.

Are you seriously asking which one of those two are better? There is no comparison. OSX Mac is quality, MS junk. If you stick with MS def don't upgrade to 8. Wait til they clean that crap up. It's a mess.

Do a little research yourself dude...

Traditionally anyone can make apps for the Mac, but since Mountain Lion, there's this new feature called 'Gatekeeper' that forces you to get your app signed by Apple before the OS will deign to run it!

Link:
[link to developer.apple.com (secure)]

To get the app signed, you must sign up for an Apple Developer ID certificate, which (currently) will cost you 99 dollars per year.

If you do not do this, then Mountain Lion will refuse to run your app, to "protect" the users from "malware"!

Is 99 bucks a big deal then?

Perhaps not. But the big deal is that Apple suddenly decides WHO gets to make apps for their platform, and HOW MUCH they have to pay for it. There is nothing that says they won't charge 999 bucks the next year. There's nothing that say they won't refuse you completely either, if you for instance were to make an app that competes with an Apple product.

Apple holds all the cards, and make all the rules.

Computers NEED to be open platforms, not controlled sandboxes. This is essential if we're going to have a semblance of freedom in the future. If you don't understand what's at stake here, then I don't understand what you're doing at a conspiracy site.

Yes you can, for now. The ONLY thing that makes this possible is the existence of that checkbox, and it should be clear to anyone Apple will remove it as soon as they feel they can get away with it.

But by default Apple blocks all apps they haven't "blessed", and try to trick the users into believing all other apps are dangerous malware.

Microsoft is attempting to follow in Apple's footsteps with their own app store, but it is Apple that is leading this very dangerous development. The big corporations seek MORE POWER over us. They can't be allowed to have it! And that's why no-one should buy an Apple computer today.

Just to make an obvious example: Do you really think you'll be able to run a bittorrent client the day the big corporations get to decide what software you are allowed to install?