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HOW TO DEAL WITH THE MENTALLY ILL IN A FREE SOCIETY?
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So lately there has been a lot of talk because of the recent shootings about the mentally ill and the mentally ill having access to firearms.
I have heard many pundits, many glpers, many everyday people talking about this, yet no one really has any solutions.
I make this thread under the assumption we all or at least most of us wish to live in a free society. With that said, how in a free society do we prevent or lower the chances of a mentally ill person obtaining a firearm? We can't go around involuntarily committing people we "suspect" may be mentally unstable.
Plus it starts to get shaky when we try and define mentally unstable and who should define this? Plus the meds we give the mentally ill generally have negative psychological effects. Potentially making a bad situation worse.
Is there a way to tackle this problem without violating peoples civil rights? Without doping everyone we suspect to be mentally ill into a drug induced coma? Also without restricting gun rights?
What do you all think?
Quoting: *HEISENBERG* Here is the problem - WHO makes the call whether a person is mentally ill? Remember the psychs will soon all work under Obamacare. There is a MAJOR conflict of interest. Fact is, if a person is hell-bent on harm, they will find a way to harm others gun or no-gun. Taking away guns from the rest of us, or giving the government psychiatrists the ability to say yes/no creates more problems than it solves. I posted an article yesterday about a bill to scan every public school/homeschool child in CT for mental illness. This is what will happen, nationwide. You cannot create a perfect society. You cannot eliminate risk. Everytime we try to do this, we lose more freedoms. I absolutely agree. Which is why I made this thread, wondering if anyone out there has any solutions I havn't heard or thought of yet. Because like I said, every solution I hear infringes on our rights. The answer may lie in empowering families. Right now it is hard to get the help a mentally ill family member needs. The best and least affordable option is a 1 on 1 caregiver. A more affordable option could be therapeutic group homes. When and how a person is placed in one is up to the family not the gov't (and requires so many family members to agree to commit). Not perfect, but heck of a lot better than jail or the streets which is where most of these folks end up. Before people have a fit - remember nursing homes are the same thing. People are typically there because they have a condition too overwhelming for the families to handle. That's an immediate fix, but long term we need to have a serious discussion of societal breakdown, bad medications and more.
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