So when do YOU think the downfall of man began...?

Its a good question Bean man its hard to determine however because we have been deprived of reality for so long.

Round about the time man started to use religion to explain what he didn't understand.....

Mongrel mutt monkeys have been struggling to rise ever since the Pans pushed them out of The Tree.

Very true... Everyone is so lost in this "game" that we'll never even realize we're being played...

Your problem started when you began considering yourself as apart of the collective. In which, the collective decisions reflect who you are. Then, ask yourself the question again... but then again, I am comparing and contrasting, so the problem probably began with that, comparing and constrating.

When Jesus came on the scene.

Religious freaks started way before that.

Since the dawn of time I guess.

I mean, when the first explorers started going out, or tribes splitting up because they had the attitude; "fuck this shit, I am out of here".

Its just speeding up lately as we reach the end time.

Does anyone truly believe mankind is doomed or will we just continue on until the Sun goes Red?

petrodollor

If you dont see how doomed we are, then you dont see how arrogant/stupid we really are.

It would literally take a miracle now.

Before he was created.

It started when Eve ate the apple, been all down hill since then.

at the beginning

I aways said it was a bad move to come down from the trees

When through greed we did not share wealth eg.Ethiopia

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"The world he was in was like nothing he had ever known. It was a dry place, with little vegetation.

In the distance he saw a village, yet it was made out of tents and cloth rather than from materials of the Earth.

As he drew closer to the village the stench of death overwhelmed him and he grew sick. He could hear children crying, the moaning of elders, and the sounds of sickness and despair.

Piles of bodies lay in open pits awaiting burial, their contorted faces and frail bodies foretelling of death from starvation. The bodies appeared more like skeletons than flesh, their once dark brown complexions now ash grey."

"As Grandfather entered the village, the horror of living starvation struck him deeper. Children could barely walk, elders lay dying, and everywhere were the cries of pain and fear.

The stench of death and the sense of hopelessness overwhelmed Grandfather, threatening to drive him from the village. It was then that an elder appeared to Grandfather, at first speaking in a language that he could not understand.

Grandfather realized as the elder spoke that he was a spirit of a man, a man no longer of the flesh but a man that had walked a spiritual path, possibly a shaman of his tribe.

It was then that he understood what the old one was trying to tell him.

"The elder spoke softly saying, 'Welcome to what will be called the land of starvation. The world will one day look upon all of this with horror and will blame the famine on the weather and the Earth.

This will be the first warning to the world that man cannot live beyond the laws of Creator, nor can he fight Nature.


If the world sees that it is to blame for this famine, then a great lesson will be learned. But I am afraid that the world will not blame itself but that the blame will be placed on Nature.

The world will not see that it created this place of death by forcing these people to have larger families. When the natural laws of the land were broken, the people starved, as Nature starves the deer in winter when their numbers are too many for the land to bear."

"The old one continued. 'These people should have been left alone. They once understood how to live with Earth, and their wealth was measured in happiness, love, and peace.

But all of that was taken away from them when the world saw theirs as a primitive society. It was then that the world showed them how to farm and live in a less primitive way."

"It was the world that forced them to live outside the laws of creation and as a result it is now forcing them to die."

The old man slowly began to walk away, back to death and despair.

He turned one last time to Grandfather and said, "This will be the first sign. There will come starvation before and after this starvation, but none will capture the attention of the world with such impact as does this one.

The Children of the Earth will know the lessons that are held in all this pain and death, but the world will only see it as drought and famine, blaming Nature instead of itself."

With that the old one disappeared, and Grandfather found himself back at the mouth of the Eternal Cave.

Grandfather lay back on the ground, thinking about what he had witnessed. He knew that it had been a Vision of the possible future and that the spirit of the Warrior had brought him to it to teach him what could happen.

Grandfather knew that people all over this future Earth were now starving, but why was this starvation so critical, so much more important than the starvation that was taking place now?

It was then that Grandfather recalled that the tribal elder had said that the entire world would take notice but that the world would not learn the lessons of what the death and the famine were trying to teach. The Children of the Earth would die in vain.

"In a state of physical and emotional exhaustion, Grandfather fell into a deep sleep, but it was in this sleep that the warrior spirit appeared to him again and brought the remainder of the first sign to completion.

In this dream the spirit spoke to Grandfather saying, "It is during the years of the famine, the first sign, that many will be plagued by a disease, a disease that will sweep the land and terrorize the masses."

"The white coats (doctors) will have no answers for the people and a great cry will arise across the land. The disease will be borne of monkeys, drugs, and sex." [Editor's Note: this is very clearly the A.I.D.S. epidemic.]

"It will destroy man from inside, making common sickness a killing disease. Mankind will bring this disease upon himself as a result of his life, his worship of sex and drugs, and a life away from Nature."

"This, too, is a part of the first warning, but again man will not heed this warning and will continue to worship the false gods of sex and the unconscious spirit of drugs."

The spirit continued, saying, "The drugs will produce wars in the cities of man, and the nations will arise against those wars, arise against that killing disease. But the nations will fight in the wrong way, lashing out at the effect rather than the cause."

"It will never win these wars until the nation, until society, changes its values and stops chasing the gods of sex and drugs."

"It is then in the years of the first sign, that man can change the course of the probable future. It is then that he may understand the greater lessons of the famine and the disease. It is then that there can still be hope."

"But once the second sign of destruction appears, the Earth can only be healed on a spiritual level. Only a spiritual healing can then change the course of the probable futures of mankind."

With that the warrior spirit let Grandfather fall into a deep and dreamless sleep, allowing him to rest fully before any more Vision was wrought upon him.

Well, you asked

The world is man-made, the earth will always be here.
The 'earth changes' are the challenges for the "world"

The moment this thread started!

when we discovered fire

^^^this^^^

January 22, 1973

2 words.

White people.

Yet ;)

I am at work

You just wait and see ;)

truth

They are beautiful and warm hearted, and easy to fall in love with. What is your beef? you on your period?

Bullshit. You treat them like shit.

So when do YOU think the downfall of man began...?

Around a bout 02/08/2013 02:38 AM

Garden of Eden

LMAO! Holy ship that was funny.