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I am not accusing you..... I am stating FACTS as a WITNESS

BIG DIFFERENCE!

Rick,

This exchange is pointless now, you are obviously fractured and only a miracle, by your own willingness to renounce this 'mindset', will free you.

I release and forgive you and I pray God will do the samehf
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I've been doing a lot of research on my situation and upgrades. Unfortunately, the only information about the subject of "ascension" is from the New Age camp, except one... Watchman Nee's "The Latent Power of the soul".

This is a highly spiritual charged version of the entire process of which Watchman Nee himself had experienced this phenomena and was able to write about it from a spiritual Christian perspective. This article which appeared in a 1933 publication was suppose to go into His master writing book "The Spiritual Man" which next to the bible is one of the most important books on Christianity that has ever been written. (IMHO)But was unable to finish the article before the publishing. So here in this neat tidy book of four chapters is the most improtant information for all Christians.

This book has only four chapters in it, but in it he shows that this experience is not an occultic awakening, but a restoration of what we had in ADAM. It is all that we lost in Adam. It is supernatural power as we consider it, however it is natural power for a man with an opened/ expanded, mind.

This restoration of the Adamic nature only occurs through holiness, for it takes a pure heart for the Lord to restore it, anything else, will produce a corrupted individual.charlie

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I've been doing a lot of research on my situation and upgrades. Unfortunately, the only information about the subject of "ascension" is from the New Age camp, except one... Watchman Nee's "The Latent Power of the soul".

This is a highly spiritual charged version of the entire process of which Watchman Nee himself had experienced this phenomena and was able to write about it from a spiritual Christian perspective. This article which appeared in a 1933 publication was suppose to go into His master writing book "The Spiritual Man" which next to the bible is one of the most important books on Christianity that has ever been written. (IMHO)But was unable to finish the article before the publishing. So here in this neat tidy book of four chapters is the most improtant information for all Christians.

This book has only four chapters in it, but in it he shows that this experience is not an occultic awakening, but a restoration of what we had in ADAM. It is all that we lost in Adam. It is supernatural power as we consider it, however it is natural power for a man with an opened/ expanded, mind.

This restoration of the Adamic nature only occurs through holiness, for it takes a pure heart for the Lord to restore it, anything else, will produce a corrupted individual.charlie
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"What I would mention in the message for our consideration today concerns spiritual warfare and its relation to the end of this age." Quote by Watchman Née.

Awesome awesome! Can't wait to read it. Thanks!
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Finished the book, it was great and very informative.
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Finished the book, it was great and very informative.
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Is this all of it, or is there more?
[link to www.worldinvisible.com]
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Finished the book, it was great and very informative.
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Is this all of it, or is there more?
[link to www.worldinvisible.com]
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Watchman Nee was a devout Christian and worthy of notation. However, he CONDEMNS the 'soul-force' as evil.

The 'Spirit-force' of the Holy Spirit and the Blood of Christ is the way we combat the soul- force, according to Nee. This is truth.

Rick is trying to justify his 'enlightenment'. I still continue to pray for Rick's deliverance as I would ask all who visit this thread........

AC,

I'm not sure if you have read this thread in it's entirety...I suggest that you do and use the DISCERNMENT of the Holy Spirit alone.

BTW, Thanks for the link ! hf

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Finished the book, it was great and very informative.
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Is this all of it, or is there more?
[link to www.worldinvisible.com]
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Watchman Nee was a devout Christian and worthy of notation. However, he CONDEMNS the 'soul-force' as evil.

The 'Spirit-force' of the Holy Spirit and the Blood of Christ is the way we combat the soul- force, according to Nee. This is truth.

Rick is trying to justify his 'enlightenment'. I still continue to pray for Rick's deliverance as I would ask all who visit this thread........

AC,

I'm not sure if you have read this thread in it's entirety...I suggest that you do and use the DISCERNMENT of the Holy Spirit alone.

BTW, Thanks for the link ! hf
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Wow, you know the difference between soul force and spirit force? Which did I use against the devil when I was being victorious over him? hint, it is the same force as I am using now. Soul force cannot produce holiness. Only spirit force can...according to Nee.

Also Nee admits of being able to read minds, and prodict future events, through his "enlightenment"

You always have to accuse, you always have to assume that you are right and I am wrong, and you have the rudness to do it on my thread. Thanks alot for showing everybody who the biggest infiltrator on my threads really is. You just keep violating all the principles I taught on the early thread of how to identify your type.rant
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Religion, ...destroys the mind!!


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You always have to accuse
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Seriously?

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Finished the book, it was great and very informative.
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Is this all of it, or is there more?
[link to www.worldinvisible.com]
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Watchman Nee was a devout Christian and worthy of notation. However, he CONDEMNS the 'soul-force' as evil.

The 'Spirit-force' of the Holy Spirit and the Blood of Christ is the way we combat the soul- force, according to Nee. This is truth.

Rick is trying to justify his 'enlightenment'. I still continue to pray for Rick's deliverance as I would ask all who visit this thread........

AC,

I'm not sure if you have read this thread in it's entirety...I suggest that you do and use the DISCERNMENT of the Holy Spirit alone.

BTW, Thanks for the link ! hf
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Wow, you know the difference between soul force and spirit force? Which did I use against the devil when I was being victorious over him? hint, it is the same force as I am using now. Soul force cannot produce holiness. Only spirit force can...according to Nee.

Also Nee admits of being able to read minds, and prodict future events, through his "enlightenment"

You always have to accuse, you always have to assume that you are right and I am wrong, and you have the rudness to do it on my thread. Thanks alot for showing everybody who the biggest infiltrator on my threads really is. You just keep violating all the principles I taught on the early thread of how to identify your type.rant
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Copied directly from Nee's own words......

Before his fall Adam could quite naturally exercise this ability with ease, since it was embodied in his soul. But after his fall, this power of his was interned by his body. Formerly the body was a help to Adam's powerful soul; now the soul had fallen, and his power was circumscribed by the shell of the flesh. Satan, however, attempts to break open this fleshly shell and to release the power dormant in man's soul in order to gain control over man. Many do not understand this strategy, being deceived into accepting it as of God.
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Religion, ...destroys the mind!!


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as well as pride....
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Religion, ...destroys the mind!!


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as well as pride....
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take care something is a foot and I have a feeling many will loose their minds as their whole reality is turned on its head
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Religion, ...destroys the mind!!


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as well as pride....
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take care something is a foot and I have a feeling many will loose their minds as their whole reality is turned on its head
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Thank you, friend....my hope is in Christhf
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Finished the book, it was great and very informative.
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Is this all of it, or is there more?
[link to www.worldinvisible.com]
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Watchman Nee was a devout Christian and worthy of notation. However, he CONDEMNS the 'soul-force' as evil.

The 'Spirit-force' of the Holy Spirit and the Blood of Christ is the way we combat the soul- force, according to Nee. This is truth.

Rick is trying to justify his 'enlightenment'. I still continue to pray for Rick's deliverance as I would ask all who visit this thread........

AC,

I'm not sure if you have read this thread in it's entirety...I suggest that you do and use the DISCERNMENT of the Holy Spirit alone.

BTW, Thanks for the link ! hf
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Hi daughter. I have read the thread and others by him. I agree that Née says the soul force is occult. I think this thread is a great example of learning to use your discernment to decipher what someone says as compared to listening to what that still, small voice says about that someone. If what someone says doesnt line up with what we think is good and seems to contradict scripture, but that still, small voice tells you that that someone is of the Holy Spirit, do you listen to your own thoughts or the thoughts from the Holy Spirit in pronouncing "judgment"? I'm going to go with the HS, which is why I can't speak a final negative "judgment" on OP. There will come a time (and already is) that men's words and actions seem so good and Godly, straight from the scriptures, but they are anything but, and the only way to discern that is through discernment of the Holy Spirit. .
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Religion, ...destroys the mind!!


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We are not in disagreement as long as we define religion as any organized cabal devised by man to control God.
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Is this all of it, or is there more?
[link to www.worldinvisible.com]
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Watchman Nee was a devout Christian and worthy of notation. However, he CONDEMNS the 'soul-force' as evil.

The 'Spirit-force' of the Holy Spirit and the Blood of Christ is the way we combat the soul- force, according to Nee. This is truth.

Rick is trying to justify his 'enlightenment'. I still continue to pray for Rick's deliverance as I would ask all who visit this thread........

AC,

I'm not sure if you have read this thread in it's entirety...I suggest that you do and use the DISCERNMENT of the Holy Spirit alone.

BTW, Thanks for the link ! hf
 Quoting: daughter in NYC



Wow, you know the difference between soul force and spirit force? Which did I use against the devil when I was being victorious over him? hint, it is the same force as I am using now. Soul force cannot produce holiness. Only spirit force can...according to Nee.

Also Nee admits of being able to read minds, and prodict future events, through his "enlightenment"

You always have to accuse, you always have to assume that you are right and I am wrong, and you have the rudness to do it on my thread. Thanks alot for showing everybody who the biggest infiltrator on my threads really is. You just keep violating all the principles I taught on the early thread of how to identify your type.rant
 Quoting: Wingedlion27



Copied directly from Nee's own words......

Before his fall Adam could quite naturally exercise this ability with ease, since it was embodied in his soul. But after his fall, this power of his was interned by his body. Formerly the body was a help to Adam's powerful soul; now the soul had fallen, and his power was circumscribed by the shell of the flesh. Satan, however, attempts to break open this fleshly shell and to release the power dormant in man's soul in order to gain control over man. Many do not understand this strategy, being deceived into accepting it as of God.
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But if you are dead to the soul....you are DEAD, and thus, you do not sin. Hence holiness, a life without sinning. There is always temptation, you just stop yielding to it.
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During my years with Hepzibah, she is the ultimate infiltrator. She was the queen of infiltrators. She had a way of being so spiritual she would actually intimidate your spirituality and make you feel guilty of faithlessness.

She spoke in tongues, prophesied, and did many feets of healing. She also could walk through walls, shapeshift, and other higher occultic feets of transmutation of molecular matter. In all these things she admitted that this power came from within normal mankind. Within the soul of man, and that anybody with the training could do it.


I have no desire to do any feets or signs through my soul (which is crucified with Christ); only that which comes from the Holy Spirit. It's been engrafted into my soul to be dependant upon Christ for power. Having died 29 times during the course of spiritual warfare does that to you.
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Finished the book, it was great and very informative.
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Is this all of it, or is there more?
[link to www.worldinvisible.com]
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Watchman Nee was a devout Christian and worthy of notation. However, he CONDEMNS the 'soul-force' as evil.

The 'Spirit-force' of the Holy Spirit and the Blood of Christ is the way we combat the soul- force, according to Nee. This is truth.

Rick is trying to justify his 'enlightenment'. I still continue to pray for Rick's deliverance as I would ask all who visit this thread........

AC,

I'm not sure if you have read this thread in it's entirety...I suggest that you do and use the DISCERNMENT of the Holy Spirit alone.

BTW, Thanks for the link ! hf
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Hi daughter. I have read the thread and others by him. I agree that Née says the soul force is occult. I think this thread is a great example of learning to use your discernment to decipher what someone says as compared to listening to what that still, small voice says about that someone. If what someone says doesnt line up with what we think is good and seems to contradict scripture, but that still, small voice tells you that that someone is of the Holy Spirit, do you listen to your own thoughts or the thoughts from the Holy Spirit in pronouncing "judgment"? I'm going to go with the HS, which is why I can't speak a final negative "judgment" on OP. There will come a time (and already is) that men's words and actions seem so good and Godly, straight from the scriptures, but they are anything but, and the only way to discern that is through discernment of the Holy Spirit. .
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hf
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Jesus is to be the "firstborn among many brethern." The first century Christians had great power. Where is that power today, power so great, they early pagans believed the gods had come down from heaven. They had power to raise the dead, heal the sick with just their shadow. Was that occultic? Does any of my words line up with scripture?

The problem is that it does not align with our faith. We are a faithless and perverse generation who see's a devil behind every corner. Not saying that there isn't; but we have grown so use to "discerning evil" we have lost our ability to discern the holy.

Satanist do not understand holiness, therefore they never talk about it. (HINT HINT)They are unable to practice holiness therefore they are unable to mirror and mimic it.

My message is simple: "HOLINESS UNTO THE LORD" without it, nobody goes to heaven. Not me and certainly not any satanic infiltrator. We better make the way straight or the Lord will come and strike us with a curse.Mal.4:5,6
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Does any of my words line up with scripture?
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Sure, but does that even matter? A common tactic used by christians (typically those with a resistance to learning) is to retort with "Well, the devil quoted scripture, too!"
If I took the time to search through old threads, I'm sure we'd find that you've spouted this yourself a time or three.

And what's the big hold-up on raising the temple mount?
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Does any of my words line up with scripture?
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Sure, but does that even matter? A common tactic used by christians (typically those with a resistance to learning) is to retort with "Well, the devil quoted scripture, too!"
If I took the time to search through old threads, I'm sure we'd find that you've spouted this yourself a time or three.

And what's the big hold-up on raising the temple mount?
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But if you had a thing called discernment perhaps you could tell the difference between the two forces.
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Does any of my words line up with scripture?
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Sure, but does that even matter? A common tactic used by christians (typically those with a resistance to learning) is to retort with "Well, the devil quoted scripture, too!"
If I took the time to search through old threads, I'm sure we'd find that you've spouted this yourself a time or three.

And what's the big hold-up on raising the temple mount?
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There is "no holdup" it will occur right on time.

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I'm reading another excellent book, this time it came from my own bookshelf. "Voice of God; visions, dreams, revelations" by Herman H. Riffel. only on the second chapter but most of it is already highlighted.

It shows how God speaks to us, to the writers of the bible, and how they saw themselves and their writings in light of Biblical cannon. Awesome!
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Hi guys it's Jericho, blessings to you in Jesus name.

Father has laid some major confirmations on me, on the 6/6/13 I had several about the 144,000. I'm know convinced that these are the two witnesses, sent out like the disciples in pairs of 72 (2 x 72 = 144) to preach the gospel to the ends of the earth in the final tribulation, but they are here now, being prepared and their purpose revealed by our Lord. It fits perfectly, have a look at these:

[link to www.herealittletherealittle.net]



God bless you WL and Daughter :-)

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Hi guys it's Jericho, blessings to you in Jesus name.

Father has laid some major confirmations on me, on the 6/6/13 I had several about the 144,000. I'm know convinced that these are the two witnesses, sent out like the disciples in pairs of 72 (2 x 72 = 144) to preach the gospel to the ends of the earth in the final tribulation, but they are here now, being prepared and their purpose revealed by our Lord. It fits perfectly, have a look at these:

[link to www.herealittletherealittle.net]



God bless you WL and Daughter :-)

Daniel
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Hey Mate,

Very interesting, indeed. My prayer group got a Word that we will be a 'rescue operation'...we are waiting on the Holy Spirit to guide us forward.

The poster seems credible....perhaps the team 'captains' will be based in Jerusalem :)

Blessingshf
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Hi guys it's Jericho, blessings to you in Jesus name.

Father has laid some major confirmations on me, on the 6/6/13 I had several about the 144,000. I'm know convinced that these are the two witnesses, sent out like the disciples in pairs of 72 (2 x 72 = 144) to preach the gospel to the ends of the earth in the final tribulation, but they are here now, being prepared and their purpose revealed by our Lord. It fits perfectly, have a look at these:

[link to www.herealittletherealittle.net]



God bless you WL and Daughter :-)

Daniel
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Hey Mate,

Very interesting, indeed. My prayer group got a Word that we will be a 'rescue operation'...we are waiting on the Holy Spirit to guide us forward.

The poster seems credible....perhaps the team 'captains' will be based in Jerusalem :)

Blessingshf
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


Hi Daughter God bless you and yours :) Did you read the link, it is quite comprehensive and relates perfectly to this man's testimony.

[link to www.herealittletherealittle.net]
Matt 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Psalm 119:165 Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.

Amos 8:11  Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:

Ruth 1:1 Now it came to pass in the days when the judges ruled, that there was a famine in the land.
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Hi guys it's Jericho, blessings to you in Jesus name.

Father has laid some major confirmations on me, on the 6/6/13 I had several about the 144,000. I'm know convinced that these are the two witnesses, sent out like the disciples in pairs of 72 (2 x 72 = 144) to preach the gospel to the ends of the earth in the final tribulation, but they are here now, being prepared and their purpose revealed by our Lord. It fits perfectly, have a look at these:

[link to www.herealittletherealittle.net]



God bless you WL and Daughter :-)

Daniel
 Quoting: Jericho 2009245


Hey Mate,

Very interesting, indeed. My prayer group got a Word that we will be a 'rescue operation'...we are waiting on the Holy Spirit to guide us forward.

The poster seems credible....perhaps the team 'captains' will be based in Jerusalem :)

Blessingshf
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


Hi Daughter God bless you and yours :) Did you read the link, it is quite comprehensive and relates perfectly to this man's testimony.

[link to www.herealittletherealittle.net]
 Quoting: Jerichofall



Jerico, I really enjoy your imput and it is good to see you're back contributing to the discussion. There are a lot of theories about prophetic things, but one problem is trying to interpret the bible through the power of the mind rather than the spirit.

Not really wanting to quote the evil queen Hepzibah, but she always kept saying "It's not as we thought". And every reference to the prophetic she would say this over and over again.

It's interesting to note, that she was always trying to be the voice of "revelation" to us about the prophetic things. She has two separate people in her, the one loves Jesus Christ with all her heart, the other hates him with all her heart, and she is a dynamite keg ready to blow either direction. This is what makes her "The Great whore". She is married to Satan, but loves the Lord and is trying to "buy the stairway to heaven" She knew who God's champion was, she knew what happens to her people, she had an opportunity to repent but believed she could do it better than what the scriptures tell. She is a complex individual without bounds, she is capable of great good and great evil. But she is also defeated.

Take this for what it is worth.
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Hi guys it's Jericho, blessings to you in Jesus name.

Father has laid some major confirmations on me, on the 6/6/13 I had several about the 144,000. I'm know convinced that these are the two witnesses, sent out like the disciples in pairs of 72 (2 x 72 = 144) to preach the gospel to the ends of the earth in the final tribulation, but they are here now, being prepared and their purpose revealed by our Lord. It fits perfectly, have a look at these:

[link to www.herealittletherealittle.net]



God bless you WL and Daughter :-)

Daniel
 Quoting: Jericho 2009245


Hey Mate,

Very interesting, indeed. My prayer group got a Word that we will be a 'rescue operation'...we are waiting on the Holy Spirit to guide us forward.

The poster seems credible....perhaps the team 'captains' will be based in Jerusalem :)

Blessingshf
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


Hi Daughter God bless you and yours :) Did you read the link, it is quite comprehensive and relates perfectly to this man's testimony.

[link to www.herealittletherealittle.net]
 Quoting: Jerichofall



Jerico, I really enjoy your imput and it is good to see you're back contributing to the discussion. There are a lot of theories about prophetic things, but one problem is trying to interpret the bible through the power of the mind rather than the spirit.

Not really wanting to quote the evil queen Hepzibah, but she always kept saying "It's not as we thought". And every reference to the prophetic she would say this over and over again.

It's interesting to note, that she was always trying to be the voice of "revelation" to us about the prophetic th"has two separate people in her, the one loves Jesus Christ with all her heart, the o:, she is capable of great good and great evil. But she is also defeated.


Rick,
Did you ever try to pray with her for deliverance?






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