NO ONE TO TELL YOUR TROUBLES TO?? GET THEM OFF YOUR CHEST HERE. WE PROMISE TO LISTEN AND UNDERSTAND.

Hi, Eggcellent. Ancestry.com is the Mormons. AC said she already tried them when I suggested it, too. This one is going to be difficult.

Yes it is. OK is best, direct tribe contact best.

Got machetes? Stash em' around, under a dish towel in the kitchen etc...
If it goes bad you got the upper hand.
Any other conversations have a sturdy buddy there for back up and a witness.

Actually, I had to go on something else when the Wellbutrin caused me to have a seizure. Apparently that can happen if you have EVER had a seizure, and I used to have "fever seizures" when I was a baby and a toddler. According to the doctor, a seizure makes a "pathway" through your brain, and even if/when you grow out of them the pathway remains. Somehow the Wellbutrin triggered the "pathway" to re-open (this was after nearly 3 years of use).

I don't use any chemical depression medicine now. Retirement ended a whole BUNCH of my stress, and I can control it herbally now. I feel a lot healthier!

Ooohh, 3 years. Too long. Glad you are free of it and the stress now. DF

I would love to give you a hug!

Hang in there and good luck!

Bed time, back tomorrow. Thanks to all who came here, and those that gave good support and showed compassion to your fellow man. Good night. DF

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Yeah, I saw that after I posted. I can see where Samoa would have all SORTS of different rules and laws. When he said "mainland" I just thought he meant he was in Hawaii.

Once he is safely away from the situation, (no sense in riling up the landlord!) it would be really interesting to read a chronicle written by him of everything which is going on. I hope he keeps us updated on how things are going.

Nite, DF. Sleep well.

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Oh, sorry! But, I learn something new every time I log on to GLP!!

Sweet dreams, Fox. Hope you're feeling better. Thanks for another great thread!!

2 years ago I did not complete my 4 day henblacha and cant seem to find happy since.

35 years old, stage2 cancer, late-stage alcoholism, broke, brokenhearted, isolated - no fear of death, but fear of further surgery/suffering

not complaints, life is interesting

thanks for the thread desertfox

There is now a branch of Cherokee here in OK that are descended from the Keetowah.

I'm off to work now, will do some research and get back with you.

Okay, back with time to respond.

Here is a link to the Keetoway Band Cherokee of Oklahoma:

[link to www.ukb-nsn.gov]

Yes, as you have described, the Keetowah were the people who voluntarily left ahead of the forced migrations. As such they are NOT recorded on tribal rolls.

Here in OK, it is not unusual for someone to be fullblood Indian (or nearly so) without any Federal Certificate of Indian Blood (CDIB card)

On the other hand, there are plenty of folks who had one distant ancestor who was on the rolls, who have a CDIB card showing 1/132nd Indian blood.

Do not mistake having a CDIB or modern tribal affiliation with real Indian heritage. They are two different things.

The people who voluntarily migrated west settled all throught what is now western Louisiana, Texas and Oklahoma. Some went as far as Mexico. They were never documented. Many married with white folks who were either fleeing the law, or who simply liked a simple life of hunting and living off the land.

There are many, many of us. My own ancestry includes Texas Cherokee and Louisiana Caddo.

Our ancestors were simply independent people who valued their freedom above all else. Some were Indian, some were white, and some perhaps even Creole.

Our ancestors made their living off the fertile swamps, meadows, wood, and prairies. They lived with a desire to avoid being trapped by bureaucracy.

They, quite simply, lived what we would call off the grid, even the 'grid' of 200 years ago.

Strive towards honoring them by living a life they would be proud of, self-supporting and resourceful -- as the old Southern saying goes "Beholden to none".

Do we need to know their names? After 5 decades of studying and pondering this aspect of my ancestry, I have concluded that no, I do not. They gave me the marrow of my bones, and that is enough.

Thank you for giving me this opportunity to reach out to someone of similiar heritage, and further the unspoken bonds we share, and about which so little in known.

For a great thread, hosted by great people!

DF

A jewel you are my Mockingbird. Thanks. DF

So sad my friend. The trials of life seem overwhelming in your case. I hope there is hope for you and that you overcome the cancer. Some book said, it is appointed once to live and once to die. I hope you have lived, for that is all we have. Best wishes to you. DF

Late stage alcoholism does not mean that you must pass your closing days in a stupor.

Alcoholism, I once heard from a wise man who knew, is simply 'the human experience, squared'.

You are invited to a renaissance of clarity towards your end of days.

You are free in a way others are not yet free.

Free to live without fear.

I invite you to lay aside the chemical you needed to get you through a reality that is simply too much to us otherwise.

See clearly in a way others may not ever have a chance to see. Lay aside the booze. Time and circumstance have freed you from needing it.

See the interesting things around you. Knowledge that you are in your closing days is a gift, an invitation to clarity and freedom.

While Desert Fox wishes that you have lived -- a wise and valid blessing -- I wish that you do live, for however long, with a special gift; the clarity and wisdom of one who has seen true darkness and laid it down, even if but for a fleeting time. Take the freedom that is yours.

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All of the above. What I meant was, I hope that he had lived life to its fullest up to now.

Interesting.

I'll keep that in mind.

i have no direction in life...no real desire to play the bullshit game of life

How old are you?

If you are in your twenties, or younger, I would say "Enjoy your youth!"

If you are in your thirties or older, I would say that you are part of a growing phenomenon -- that of people just like yourself.

A couple of hundred years ago, peoples' lives were pretty much planned out and laid out: You'd become a farmer, soldier, or shopkeeper like your dad. You'd have several kids because there was no birth control.

Nowadays the complexity of technology is overwhelming. Our nervous systems have become burnt out.

No one wants to set foot out the front door any more because the simple logistics and legalities of "just" going to the store involve operating a large machine, making ten thousand decisions to maneuver it, and undertaking complex legal liabilities to do so. We deal with a hundred thousand different laws just to go buy a sack of rice, and a sack of beans.

No wise or thoughtful person would choose to take on the burdens of what used to be a typical life.

More and more people are choosing to simply withdraw.

I would say, pursue what interests you and is wholesome and uplifting. We all have to make a living, so undertake a career that is interesting and worthwhile.

But what you are experiencing is not a bad thing, it is the inklings of wisdom, that life as most people live it today is simply overwhelming. Overwhelming, that is, to a sensitive, or thoughtful person.

Do something good every day of your life, even if it is a small thing, such as volunteering at the animal shelter.

Find your pleasures in small things. There is no real pleasure or satisfaction to be found from falling into the trap of money and success.

It's the modern world -- and its media -- that is sick and distorted, not the sensibilities of a thoughtful person who wants no part of it.

You must venture into the world of curves and cross roads to find your directions.