Why Wont Chirstians Respond To This?

I think I have typed this message a hundred times and there are still stupid Christers that will come here and think there is proof for Jesus, of course, without ever researching this on their own. So they quote some stupid book that tells them Josephus and Tacitus talked about Jesus but it has been PROVEN that these men only wrote what they did, years and years after Jesus supposedly lived.

The few authors that talked about Jesus called him Christus or some other name and it was nothing definitve that they said. In fact, there were plenty of Egyptians who were meticulous record keepers who never mentioned Jesus at all. And the only "proof" of him is hearsay because not one single person wrote a thing about Jesus while he was living or for years after he supposedly lived, which he didn't, by the way. Did you know that Josephus and Tacitus talked MORE about Hercules than Jesus? So what does this prove. NOTHING.

There is no one who recorded his birthday so they made one up. They used the date of December 25 because it was a pagan holiday. No one knows when he died, even though men who lived before him have accurate birth dates and death dates recorded. So the Romans made up a date for his death and called it Easter which is the celebration for the goddess Ishtar who was a goddess who died on a cross and rose again. Are you getting it yet?

If Jesus is real, why is he not mentioned in any history book? Why didn't someone carve a bust to show us what he looked like? It is because he is a myth. And you are retarded to believe in him because YOU KNOW without a doubt that it is impossible, using the natural laws of this world, to rise from the grave or to be born of a virgin. You are a child. Grow up.

Cite a verse that troubles you, please. Or you have no argument.

Jesus is not going to come into the heart of an imbalanced judgemental person who wants to kill

JESUS can kill all by himself unless told to DELIBERATELY NOT do so to show people just how evil GROUP mindset truly is

But he still chose to die anyway, even asked why he was forsaken...

Somehow he needs YOU to do his killing now and take 10% and land while doing it?

yes? no?

Oh, I get it now. Thank you so much for clearing this up. God couldn't just KILL the Pharoah so that his people could go free? No, he would rather send a plague of frogs and a plague of locusts. He would rather kill all the cattle and turn all the water to blood for seven days. Amazing that those people back then could live without water but we all know that it was "magical" back then.

So after tormenting those poor people because of the sin of their Pharoah, God decided that he just HAD to kill all their babies. Now, he didn't want to, mind you, because God is really loving and really good. He just HAD to. So he made sure that the Pharoah wouldn't let the people go, even though he could have made Pharaoh do the opposite so that he wouldn't have to kill kids. Yeah, I will be sure to go out and worship this god this weekend. Thank you for filling me in on the wonderment of your amazing God. And the next time you do something wrong, I sure hope God doesn't decide to send a plague to punish you because God can be like that at times. God bless.

"I used to be a Christian, just like you, gurgled out the same garbage that you just did."


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No you were not.

You don't just go out and sign up, attend church, etc.

It is a supernatural event......with God's direct involvement.


"My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; NEITHER SHALL ANYONE SNATCH THEM OUT OF MY HAND.

"My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father's hand.

"I and My Father are one."


"This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day."



"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him."

Bill Maher got you didnt he? A common mistake of people who bring up these other so-called gods is they dont have a B.C. resurrection account. You might have a crucifixion, or a resurrection account after Jesus, but never before.
You're right about Dec. 25th, its just a meaningless pagan holiday with no justification in scripture (Luke gives season of Jesus' birth). But if it brings some people to Christianity, then its not all bad.

Is this the killing from Joshua for example, against the idol-worshippers and rebels against God? There is no commandment to kill, check them again please.

Oh right, it is supernatural. What was I THINKING. I must not have sensed that you were God's special little robot, the one who he talks to every night. Maybe we should worship you. So you KNOW that I wasn't a Christian because the god of the universe made a special supernatural trip to earth to give you all this special knowledge. And you know that I couldn't have been visited by this same being because you are so wonderful. My, aren't you special?
It must be such a hoot to live in a world of make believe.

do you drive a car? if so, every time you hit the brakes you have faith you will stop. you don't know for sure, you just know. pretty much the same process with God.

Who is Bill Maher? I don't have cable which explains why I am always on this fucking website talking to brainwashed idiots who think some invisible man in the sky is their best friend. I don't have a clue what you are talking about which is pretty par for the course when talking to people who live in the land of delusion. It kind of sounded like you agreed with me but then you fucked it up at the end when you said something about bringing people to Jesus. I honestly have no idea what you were rambling on about and maybe you are drunk and that's okay. Don't even try to explain.

"So after tormenting those poor people because of the sin of their Pharoah,"


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You will not be thinking of the poor people of Egypt when hailstones weighing 130 pounds each come blasting through your house and all around you.

Oddly enough......you will even then continue to blaspheme God.



"Then every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.

"And great hail from heaven fell upon man, every hailstone about the weight of a talent. And men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail, since that plague was exceedingly great."




God is allowing a little more time for people to come to Christ. That is why the earth right now does not swallow you up.

Really, really bad comparison. You see a car is a physical machine that works because it was created by men who knew what they were doing. If my brakes are bad, I get a little red light, which I can SEE, by the way, and that tells me to get my brakes checked.

So, kid, it doesn't work that way with God. There is no God, there is nothing physical there. I can prove I have a car. I can touch a car, hear a car, etc. No such thing with God. I can have faith that my car will stop, but maybe it won't. Maybe my brakes are bad. You can have faith that God is there, but maybe he isn't. Maybe you just WISH he was, it works both ways. Your comparison of God to brakes in a car is stupid and not well thought out. I don't KNOW that God is there. Neither do you, but you can pretend if you want, kiddo.

Oh, I am sooo scared. I think I will become a Christian tomorrow. And because I know that the Muslim people would condemn me (and you) to their hell, I will go out and become a Muslim too. Maybe you should too, just to be safe, you know. And then maybe I will become a Mormon because they believe that only Mormons who know the secret password get to heaven. I better join up so that I can learn that password. I gotta lot of work to do tomorrow so I better go.

Oh, and by the way, if a 130 pound hailstone lands on top of me and I am STILL blaspheming your God, I must have some pretty tough skin. I would think a boulder like that would be the end of me, but I guess not. And you would know. Of course, I know you are just a bot so I think you're a hoot.

there is however that idol worship thing... so Life over love... um I'm going to go with worshiping SELF over the life of others in the name of GOD ?

am I reading too far into this thing called follow the rules? I mean just make new rules right? Hebrew law, BOOKS and BOOKS

they still suck blood out of baby penises

LOGIC?

we gotta hang jesus... why?

HE MADE US FEEL BAD he told us the truth


yeah THAT is going over well right now...


at this point anybody who is still following a book that they are not even reading in the original language should not be speaking on matters of UNDERSTANDING ok..

it's just kind of offensive at this point...

I hope that makes sense... I grew up in that cult... I know who they worship really


hey christains

what's the difference between God in Genesis 1 who changes from singular to plural and the God of Genesis 2 who is not even the same name?

answer they just changed the names to protect the guilty...

make sense?

I'll be happy to see the dudes from Genesis 1... that Jehovah dude not so much

"Oh right, it is supernatural. What was I THINKING. I must not have sensed that you were God's special little robot, the one who he talks to every night. Maybe we should worship you. So you KNOW that I wasn't a Christian because the god of the universe made a special supernatural trip to earth to give you all this special knowledge. And you know that I couldn't have been visited by this same being because you are so wonderful. My, aren't you special?
It must be such a hoot to live in a world of make believe."


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"Therefore hear the parable of the sower;


When anyone hears the word of the kingdom, and does not understand it, then the wicked one comes and snatches away what was sown in his heart. This is he who received seed by the wayside.

But he who received the seed on stony places, this is he who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy; yet he has no root in himself, but endures only for awhile. For when tribulation or persecution arises because of the word, immediately he stumbles.

Now he who received the seed among the thorns is he who hears the word, and the cares of this world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word, and he becomes unfruitful.

But he who received seed on the good ground is he who hears the word and understands it, who indeed bears fruit..."



The churches are full of people who label themselves as Christians. Christ gives many warnings in the first three chapters of Revelations.......as these places are full of wolves. One day He will separate the sheep from the wolves.

If only these people could see. Hope their hearts become softened...in fact, I'll pray it be so in Jesus name, thank you Father.

That's right, kiddo. We all know how very special you are. Wolves are all around you but you have that invisible best buddy in the sky who loves you soooo much that he won't let anyone hurt you. And, yes, you don't listen to Jesus. He tells you to sell everything you have and give it all to the poor. There you sit on your computer in your nice house. You don't care what he says because you are just sooo sure he loves you. In fact, YOU KNOW that all you really need to do is to believe that this God loves you and you are home free. How easy this must be for you?

You know Jesus called people like you white washed tombs full of dead men's bones. But that doesn't bother you either. Pharisees thought they were soooo much better than everyone else. They could see the sin in everyone else's eyes but never their own. Jesus called them "Sons of Satan" but that doesn't worry you. Jesus even tells people like you that you could do a miracle in his name, drive out a demon even (which I am sure you have done) and he will tell them to get away from him and call them evildoers. We ALL know that this could NEVER be you. You know everything there is to know about God because...well...I guess you ARE GOD. Amazing how God can like what you like and hate what you hate. Kind of sounds like you are making him up, bot, but that wouldn't be true. Would it?

Oh, I am sooo scared.

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You will be......and so will all the global elites. They will be hiding in fear in caves.


I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood.

And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind.

Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place.

And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains,

and said to the mountains and rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!

For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?

For one, your perception is skewed. You have a narrow perspective and obviously that which is out of your comfort zone is very much taboo or uncomfortable to truly digest.

God is Love. If you love yourself, you truly can love others.

God does not Banish Satan, that is non-sense. Lucifer willingly separated from his Kingdom to prove he could do that which God could.

Lucifer more over is loosely based upon the idea of the cult of Civilization. It also represents the 'cosmic man' made flesh. If you dig deeper, Luciferianism evolved from a man named Lucifer of Cagliari. He was staunch opponent of Arianism. This has nothing to do with Nazis or the KKK, or even being 'white' for that matter.

Wikipedia defines it as...



Thus, he was a part of the Church who was 'banished' from the "Kingdom".

Lucifer representing the cosmic man in a 'veiled' tribute to mans vain attempt to do what God did, which is create. The problem is, what does it mean to be Godless?

Well, the exoteric definition claims one who does not believe in God.

Straight forward enough...

Right?

Wrong.

Godless can also imply a person who works without Love behind their actions. We look around and we can truly see that the society and man in a 'generalized' fashion - does in fact reflect this no-love nature. (not always but 'generally')

Then your fallacy about 'believing' in the book, which obviously clearly - you yourself have NEVER even read. Regardless, the book is more or less an esoteric telling of actual events. Some are far more veiled than others.

The bible was an attempt to record sacred knowledge that, in the event Mankind happened to 'fall' again... at least, some where - we could restore what Knowledge we did have.

Let me make it clear to you, if any intention you perceive as 'benefiting God' you can bet your last silver dollar that it is a vain translation for Mans power and control.

God = With Love / Godless = With Out love

Hope this helps you understand and see the light. No one is asking you to praise Jesus or anything else. Because truth is - No one can ever 'be' it is merely something to look at and KNOW that which is Just and Right. Which means Charity, Love for All and the practice of Good Works. The earth is full of 'demons' who surely attempt to taint, all they touch.

Most people hated and rejected Christ when he was here as well.....so this is nothing new.


"The Spirit bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God."


Wretched sinner that I am......saved only by His mercy and grace.

Our hearts are softened. We already love people, and not unconditionally, like you do. You are like that God thing you worship. You think that only Christians go to heaven. The rest go to hell because they don't want to be like you. You have no problem with this God sending them to hell forever to suffer in pain and agony.

You, with your hard and unfeeling heart, cling to this miserable monster of a God out of fear and then try to make others into little versions of you. No thanks. If I was going to worship a God, it would have to be a God who has a kinder heart than I do. Because I could never torture my enemy for even one day without feeling extreme guilt and shame, I could never worship your monster who torments his enemies forever. Good luck with that because you know he could turn on you.

Whats your source for whatever so-called gods you were talking about?

Maybe we should let you re-draft our Constitution then. Do you even believe in logic?

God's opinion on what we read is important, your opinion, ... not so much.

God is the witness speaking ine Ge:1, the one with Him is the Holy Spirit, equal to the husband and wife team from man. Image and likeness are physical appearance and relationship with each other.

Ge:1:26:
And God said,
Let us make man in our image,
after our likeness:
and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea,
and over the fowl of the air,
and over the cattle,
and over all the earth,
and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Ge:1:27:
So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God created he him;
male and female created he them.

The Ge:2 account is the witness of the Holy Spirit starting when Adam had the breath of life.

Their child, Christ is the 3rd witness and His testimony in in Proverbs:8.

Proverb:8:22:
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way,
before his works of old.

Proverb:8:31:
Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth;
and my delights were with the sons of men.
Proverb:8:32:
Now therefore hearken unto me,
O ye children:
for blessed are they that keep my ways.
Proverb:8:33:
Hear instruction,
and be wise,
and refuse it not.
Proverb:8:34:
Blessed is the man that heareth me,
watching daily at my gates,
waiting at the posts of my doors.
Proverb:8:35:
For whoso findeth me findeth life,
and shall obtain favour of the LORD.
Proverb:8:36:
But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul:
all they that hate me love death.

You are saved by grace. So did you have to do NOTHING to be saved? Didn't Jesus say that you had to be like a child to enter heaven? Is it really childlike to believe in a God who would torment people forever? Would a child have loved Santa Claus if we told them that bad kids would be carted off by Santa and put in a furnace and they would burn forever. A kid would never understand that, and they would, quite naturally, fear and hate Santa, even if he brought them presents.

But Christians just don't give a fuck. They worship this God out of fear, of course, but they really don't care. You are a wretched sinner, that is for sure. But you are a mortal human being who will die and turn to dust. That is the truth that you can't bear. SO you live in a fantasy world of your own making, getting by on the stories your mother and dad told you were true.

Humans don't live forever. You can't stand to think of that because you think so highly of yourself, your ego is huge. But others, like me, can accept my mortality. I, therefore, don't need to cling to fairy tales in order to live. I can enjoy the life I have and accept that this is all there is. I guess I might scare people like you. But the fact is that I am telling you the truth. Truth can hurt.

I had to stop at "your"... (look in the mirror much OP?)... it's kinda yours too?... You just elected to say no.

Good luck with that. -- I don't suppose you'll come around on your death bed now will you?...

So sorry.

"Our hearts are softened. We already love people, and not unconditionally, like you do. You are like that God thing you worship. You think that only Christians go to heaven. The rest go to hell because they don't want to be like you. You have no problem with this God sending them to hell forever to suffer in pain and agony.

You, with your hard and unfeeling heart, cling to this miserable monster of a God out of fear and then try to make others into little versions of you. No thanks. If I was going to worship a God, it would have to be a God who has a kinder heart than I do. Because I could never torture my enemy for even one day without feeling extreme guilt and shame, I could never worship your monster who torments his enemies forever. Good luck with that because you know he could turn on you.+


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The above is a good example of being in rebellion against God.......the One who created you.


How patient He is......beyond human comprehension.

This is a dead topic. You can never win an argument with a Christian. Once you start casting doubt (which I thin they feel) it then becomes a verbal war where neither will want to give in. I agree with what you are saying......but sooner or later you will not want to get into these debates because its like beating a dead horse. I usually now just refer them to "the amazing atheist" on you tube. He has the time lol