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Mordier L'eft User ID: 34428353 Canada 02/16/2013 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | of course there is room for you. you left a void there when you decided to come here. and you'll be back here, one day, to learn new things once again. enjoy it. --"In this era of great big brains anything that can happen will. So hunker down." -- Kurt Vonnegut, JR. -- Galapagos. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32264268 United States 02/16/2013 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something bothering me for a long time. Quoting: Holy_Diver I crave the bliss and serenity of Home/Heaven yet I have a dark, somber, weary soul and my asthetic is reflective of that. Is there room enough in Heaven for the Darkness? Its the Light side of all our deepest inner beings meaning you can express all you want as a person and spirit just there are things that cant happen there that happen here like murder war greed.....things like that spiritual expression of self you can do all you want |
Holy_Diver (OP) User ID: 20712268 United States 02/16/2013 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Or would that just be single irony? Addams Family without the camp? Or is Gothic Heaven naturally campy? ARe there both kinds and do they bleed into one another? :ritd:"You've been left on your own, like a Rainbow in the Dark" -Ronnie James Dio:ritd: |
Mordier L'eft User ID: 34428353 Canada 02/16/2013 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would sort of have to be a realm of double irony...because pain would have to represent pleasure without actually being painful, and sorrow would have to be joyous without actually being bad news. Quoting: Holy_Diver Or would that just be single irony? Addams Family without the camp? Or is Gothic Heaven naturally campy? ARe there both kinds and do they bleed into one another? now you're just being silly forget your earthly inclinations they do not exist --"In this era of great big brains anything that can happen will. So hunker down." -- Kurt Vonnegut, JR. -- Galapagos. |
Holy_Diver (OP) User ID: 20712268 United States 02/16/2013 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something bothering me for a long time. Quoting: Holy_Diver I crave the bliss and serenity of Home/Heaven yet I have a dark, somber, weary soul and my asthetic is reflective of that. Is there room enough in Heaven for the Darkness? Its the Light side of all our deepest inner beings meaning you can express all you want as a person and spirit just there are things that cant happen there that happen here like murder war greed.....things like that spiritual expression of self you can do all you want What about the love of the drama of murder, war and greed, envy and lust and intrigue? Is it "wrong" in gothic heaven to appreciate the spectacle and enactment of these things without actually harming those who share the realm? Sort of like a full-immersion role playing game where the art of it exalts Most High in it's own little beauty? Or is that what life already is??? Ahhhh. :ritd:"You've been left on your own, like a Rainbow in the Dark" -Ronnie James Dio:ritd: |
Holy_Diver (OP) User ID: 20712268 United States 02/16/2013 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would sort of have to be a realm of double irony...because pain would have to represent pleasure without actually being painful, and sorrow would have to be joyous without actually being bad news. Quoting: Holy_Diver Or would that just be single irony? Addams Family without the camp? Or is Gothic Heaven naturally campy? ARe there both kinds and do they bleed into one another? now you're just being silly forget your earthly inclinations they do not exist Just stream-of-conciousnessing here. Sorry. :ritd:"You've been left on your own, like a Rainbow in the Dark" -Ronnie James Dio:ritd: |
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M1.618 User ID: 22427554 Canada 02/16/2013 11:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would sort of have to be a realm of double irony...because pain would have to represent pleasure without actually being painful, and sorrow would have to be joyous without actually being bad news. Quoting: Holy_Diver Or would that just be single irony? Addams Family without the camp? Or is Gothic Heaven naturally campy? ARe there both kinds and do they bleed into one another? now you're just being silly forget your earthly inclinations they do not exist Just stream-of-conciousnessing here. Sorry. But you are evolved. And it is beyond. wmMmw |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32264268 United States 02/16/2013 11:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something bothering me for a long time. Quoting: Holy_Diver I crave the bliss and serenity of Home/Heaven yet I have a dark, somber, weary soul and my asthetic is reflective of that. Is there room enough in Heaven for the Darkness? Its the Light side of all our deepest inner beings meaning you can express all you want as a person and spirit just there are things that cant happen there that happen here like murder war greed.....things like that spiritual expression of self you can do all you want What about the love of the drama of murder, war and greed, envy and lust and intrigue? Is it "wrong" in gothic heaven to appreciate the spectacle and enactment of these things without actually harming those who share the realm? Sort of like a full-immersion role playing game where the art of it exalts Most High in it's own little beauty? Or is that what life already is??? Ahhhh. That is why we come here those thoughts on that level don't exist any more and whos to say that you are truly goth in Heaven?? You could be a beautiful angel experiencing a GOTH experience here on Earth all spirits become the whole meaning we become all different types of being in creation based on what stories are written for us here. The thoughts you are talking about are not even possible in Heaven. Like Murder greed hate.... to hurt another or effect another in a negative way is not possible in the creation and will never be expressed in Heaven this is why these realms were created but that does not mean you cant be a type of Heavenly goth its just not the same goth your use 2 on Earth But that does not mean you cant be you, yet you were in Heaven before you came here. |
Holy_Diver (OP) User ID: 20712268 United States 02/16/2013 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something bothering me for a long time. Quoting: Holy_Diver I crave the bliss and serenity of Home/Heaven yet I have a dark, somber, weary soul and my asthetic is reflective of that. Is there room enough in Heaven for the Darkness? Its the Light side of all our deepest inner beings meaning you can express all you want as a person and spirit just there are things that cant happen there that happen here like murder war greed.....things like that spiritual expression of self you can do all you want What about the love of the drama of murder, war and greed, envy and lust and intrigue? Is it "wrong" in gothic heaven to appreciate the spectacle and enactment of these things without actually harming those who share the realm? Sort of like a full-immersion role playing game where the art of it exalts Most High in it's own little beauty? Or is that what life already is??? Ahhhh. That is why we come here those thoughts on that level don't exist any more and whos to say that you are truly goth in Heaven?? You could be a beautiful angel experiencing a GOTH experience here on Earth all spirits become the whole meaning we become all different types of being in creation based on what stories are written for us here. The thoughts you are talking about are not even possible in Heaven. Like Murder greed hate.... to hurt another or effect another in a negative way is not possible in the creation and will never be expressed in Heaven this is why these realms were created but that does not mean you cant be a type of Heavenly goth its just not the same goth your use 2 on Earth Yeah, I know what you're saying is true. At the end of the day, I just want to go home. I suppose once I'm there I'll forget all about the "Big City" :ritd:"You've been left on your own, like a Rainbow in the Dark" -Ronnie James Dio:ritd: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32264268 United States 02/16/2013 11:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I understand where your coming from home/Heaven is always there for us we know this within our being but if what you want to know that you can be who you want to be and spiritually express yourself in a Healthy way That is what Heaven is, all that you are thinking it is there is a type of duality in Heaven as well just not as extreme as here |
Holy_Diver (OP) User ID: 20712268 United States 02/17/2013 12:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Perhaps Heaven is a Zodiac where every sign/region is a slice of spectrum that resonates with an Archetype in it's own infinite expressions as dominated by that Archetype. I am reminded of the old AD&D's diagram of the outer planes, where on a cross of two poles, Law vs Chaos and Good vs Evil, where the circumference is made up of sub planes, Lawful Evil, Chaotic Evil, Nuetral Evil and each of these six neighbored by two buffering planes in between the major divisions, and stacked on top of each other sub or super levels of degree. All accessible by the plane of balance, True Nuetral. I digress. Again, just letting the brain ramble tonight. :ritd:"You've been left on your own, like a Rainbow in the Dark" -Ronnie James Dio:ritd: |