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User ID: 34458120 United States 02/18/2013 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was reading arguments for and against the existence of God and got to the Unmoved Mover argument. Since the universe is about cause and effect everything has a cause and an effect. This goes to almost an infinite regress as to what created the universe in the first place. Nothing can cause nothing. There must have been something that has always existed whether it is God or energy or whatever. It couldn't have just come out of nothing. It is known in the material universe that particles can indeed come out of nothing but that cause of nothing is still something. That First Cause must have always existed as it couldn't have caused itself to exist as that requires existence of it in the first place. So the First Cause was not the result of any other cause and had always existed. The universe came into being by that First Cause and the universe will also have an ending. The First Cause must be incorporeal and has always existed. Since everything that is created is actually rearrangement of the Universe by us then maybe the incorporeal exists as part of the First Cause, part of God and God rearranged itself to create the Universe. This gets along well with my pantheistical beliefs in God. [ link to www.yhwh.com] Last Edited by Amilius on 02/18/2013 06:24 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1663367 Poland 02/18/2013 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's kind of where I'm at. Put more simply: Why should anything exist at all? Head-twisting stuff. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34582498 United States 02/18/2013 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think therefore I am. Good Ol Rene DeCarte
Hard to get your pint size mind around a Being who has always been. Where did He (masculine Father authoritative slant)get His power? How does He make "living beings" from within Himself. How does He have the ability to think and speak into existence all things?
Wooooooooooo
There are 2 worlds and our physical limitations of eye sight only allow one.
The material world and the spirit or unseen world
You'll meet Him like I did in 1989. I died momentarily and got the shock of a life time. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14645782 United States 02/18/2013 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a human you are only allowed 5 senses. Nothing more and nothing less. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34582498 United States 02/18/2013 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a human you are only allowed 5 senses. Nothing more and nothing less.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14645782 You are wrong You have the ability to regenerate or get the switch turned back on to communicate with God. You are only running on 2 cylinders and you have 3 but one is dead. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34711628 United States 02/18/2013 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LIFE exists there for "god" exists. Life IS a self creating force imbued with consciousness. |
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