Yes Pete and his friend did the deed with the pig and I didn't watch or even see anything until there was no head, feet or skin and it looked like butcher meat. We are going to castrate some of the males next week. I want to keep one not castrated and we are doing that rubber band method on the others. As for Elsie, her utters are getting big but honestly she doesn't look like shes pregnant. She's bigger than she was but not much bigger. She only got out that once, now she likes it here but she still doesn't really care for me. She tolerates me if I feed her, but mostly she really seems to prefer men. She jumps around like a dog when my son comes around and Pete too sometimes.

I would never try to milk her, she has yet to let me even touch her. Only Pete has been able to touch her.