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Machines can build homes. Google it.
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well, in the money free society, we would make it law that you remain in your present property; it is now yours and you never have to pay rent, mortgages, property tax again.

If you're not happy with the home you presently live in, you can put your name on a list for a new home, then move into it when it is built. But setting that factor aside, all of your other needs are being met.

If you are homeless, you can volunteer to provide a service for the construction workforce who will build a home for you.

And how could you expect any more for what you do, if you were working a mere 1 - 2 hrs per day and getting all of your needs met in return?
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Because in REALITY, the land that all live on, belongs to NO ONE and to EVERY ONE.

Those who sell it to you are rober-supporters.
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Bullshit. I mean to defend mine. STAY THE FUCK OFF IT.
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Erm yeh, no one is planning on taking your land. What we're saying is, everyone should be entitled to their own property without having to bust your nuts to pay a mortgage, rent or anything else. Once your house is built -- it's yours for life.
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Let me explain something that any 10 year old girl running a successful lemonade stand knows....

The obligation of debt does NOT originate with simple demand.

If you want money, even a 10 year old girl running a lemonade stand knows you have to offer something of equal or greater value in exchange for it. If she stood there with a sign that said, "YOU OWE ME A HOUSE, BITCHEZ!" how far do you think she'd get, asswipe? YOU ARE OWED NOTHNG.

You are entitled to NOTHING. If you can't get past that, then fuck you. You're a loser and not my problem.
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Because in REALITY, the land that all live on, belongs to NO ONE and to EVERY ONE.

Those who sell it to you are rober-supporters.
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Bullshit. I mean to defend mine. STAY THE FUCK OFF IT.
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Erm yeh, no one is planning on taking your land. What we're saying is, everyone should be entitled to their own property without having to bust your nuts to pay a mortgage, rent or anything else. Once your house is built -- it's yours for life.
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Let me explain something that any 10 year old girl running a successful lemonade stand knows....

The obligation of debt does NOT originate with simple demand.

If you want money, even a 10 year old girl running a lemonade stand knows you have to offer something of equal or greater value in exchange for it. If she stood there with a sign that said, "YOU OWE ME A HOUSE, BITCHEZ!" how far do you think she'd get, asswipe? YOU ARE OWED NOTHNG.

You are entitled to NOTHING. If you can't get past that, then fuck you. You're a loser and not my problem.
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Well, you've obviously misunderstood the entire premise of the idea... you think that building a house is a monumental, time consuming task, but not when there are limitless amounts of people working. This means that one guy may only have to lay two bricks in return for food provided by another unlimited labour force working in the agriculture sector.

Then, when all the tasks have been completed in an incredibly short space of time, it's time to go and enjoy the rest of the day as you want.
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I'm just saying.. I wouldnt want to live in a house where 30 people that kind of know what they're doing framed it, another 30 did the electrical, and another 30 plumbed it, ect ect ect. that house would never stand. and the process would be soo disorganized it would take longer to build.
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it not only can but will work

as it did and was intended to do

but not in effort to sustain the machination of society as we've come to view it

which is why the very bones of such will be dismantled brick by brick

until only the basics pursuant to existence remain

as it was in the beginning it will be in the end

before mammon, commerce, and the government of man was brought forth into the garden of life

prior to being swept into the past neath the carpet of its ill repute
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when every man tends to his own vine, and is left in peace to do so

one finds he does an exemplary job unattended

whereas such as it be in this assembly lined world, fast tracked to bring babylonish traffick to life

in the name of "commerce" which serves only the few

quality itself becomes obsolete
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The object isn't to have another provide for you. The object is to reduce labor. Simply by removing money, increasing mechanization, and building everything to last we can reduce labor requirements by 50%. That is indisputable.

20 hour work week and you still have everything you got now? Except it wouldn't stop there. Mechanization can be expanded in time to make it where people have to work very little.

A wise man once said that "it is hard to think noble things when one must always have his mind on feeding himself." I paraphrased that a little. The point is that there is a lot of talent out there stuck in a rut that would be freed to be inventive and creative.

People who don't have to work don't just lay on the couch; not if they are mentally healthy and educated & interested in life. They do things that interest them. Sometimes they end up being innovative.

When Linus Torvalds created the Linux kernel I doubt he did so to make lots of money. He did it because he thought it up and was interested in it. When steve Jobs started building computers money wasn't the primary motivator. Success financially was just a means of continuing the project...the kick ass hobby. That's how it is in the beginning for many, many innovative and ground breaking things.

That stuff doesn't happen as much when you are stuck running a forklift 12 hours a day trying to keep the lights on at the house.

In a way we are working at everything bass ackwards and the reason we are is because the way we do things now supports an elite ruling class.
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get ready to put your words into action
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The object isn't to have another provide for you. The object is to reduce labor. Simply by removing money, increasing mechanization, and building everything to last we can reduce labor requirements by 50%. That is indisputable.

20 hour work week and you still have everything you got now? Except it wouldn't stop there. Mechanization can be expanded in time to make it where people have to work very little.

A wise man once said that "it is hard to think noble things when one must always have his mind on feeding himself." I paraphrased that a little. The point is that there is a lot of talent out there stuck in a rut that would be freed to be inventive and creative.

People who don't have to work don't just lay on the couch; not if they are mentally healthy and educated & interested in life. They do things that interest them. Sometimes they end up being innovative.

When Linus Torvalds created the Linux kernel I doubt he did so to make lots of money. He did it because he thought it up and was interested in it. When steve Jobs started building computers money wasn't the primary motivator. Success financially was just a means of continuing the project...the kick ass hobby. That's how it is in the beginning for many, many innovative and ground breaking things.

That stuff doesn't happen as much when you are stuck running a forklift 12 hours a day trying to keep the lights on at the house.

In a way we are working at everything bass ackwards and the reason we are is because the way we do things now supports an elite ruling class.
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no one is as of yet bearing in mind the truth of the matter with reference to the massive change that will overcome us at the final trump and end of this Age

no longer existing in flesh bodies will alter everything from the ground up

food production, doctors, taxes, civil government and etc., will all become moot points instantly

hence attempting to revamp such between ourselves will avail us not as few can even grasp the true implications of a change in our states of being that all encompassing, clearly

hence it's far too late to attempt to reorganize society as a whole as nothing but nothing will remain the same

a whole new paradigm is set to unfold and we along with it in our specific ascents/descents accordingly
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get ready to put your words into action
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had this been orchestrated 50 years ago we may well have had a good 50 years of "life in flesh as it should be"

sadly however, that wasn't the case

too little, too late

onward and upward from here

to a paradigm wherein the focus will be moreso on the "within" than the "without" of each and every one of us hereupon
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Op,

Who pays for example the resources used to make whatever product being manufactured, additionally who pays for research and upgrading systems along with the countless hoops and taxes inflicted upon the business? Your concept is not in infancy status it is in Pollyanna status and who will pay for the services of the workers.
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The object isn't to have another provide for you. The object is to reduce labor. Simply by removing money, increasing mechanization, and building everything to last we can reduce labor requirements by 50%. That is indisputable.

20 hour work week and you still have everything you got now? Except it wouldn't stop there. Mechanization can be expanded in time to make it where people have to work very little.

A wise man once said that "it is hard to think noble things when one must always have his mind on feeding himself." I paraphrased that a little. The point is that there is a lot of talent out there stuck in a rut that would be freed to be inventive and creative.

People who don't have to work don't just lay on the couch; not if they are mentally healthy and educated & interested in life. They do things that interest them. Sometimes they end up being innovative.

When Linus Torvalds created the Linux kernel I doubt he did so to make lots of money. He did it because he thought it up and was interested in it. When steve Jobs started building computers money wasn't the primary motivator. Success financially was just a means of continuing the project...the kick ass hobby. That's how it is in the beginning for many, many innovative and ground breaking things.

That stuff doesn't happen as much when you are stuck running a forklift 12 hours a day trying to keep the lights on at the house.

In a way we are working at everything bass ackwards and the reason we are is because the way we do things now supports an elite ruling class.
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no one should ever have depended or been forced to depend on another to provide for us

had that not been the case we'd at least have been able to eat clean, nontoxic foodstuffs for the duration as opposed to sustaining ourselves on food items both drained of all nutrients and then stuffed full of toxins and preservatives

so the rich could get richer and the workers get sicker all the while...

be grateful it's ending now because the ptb are right on the verge of going full on postal

under the demonic guidance of their maniacal overlord, soon to sit in rule over all nations upon the earth during the time of tribulation hereupon

tho the lot of you will believe it's your savior when they arrive professing to have removed TPTB in order to save you, sigh

those who are concerned with creating the best possible circumstance for themselves in the upcoming Age would do well to focus upon that as opposed to those things which will no longer be necessary as they will no longer be relevant in any measure
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OK, a company depends upon money in order to create jobs. Well, what if a company didn't need money in order to create jobs? Then limitless amounts of people could be employed. This would mean that the more hands volunteering to work, then there would be higher productivity, thus the worker would only have to spend an hour or two per day working.

As an example: say we have a group of construction workers working to create new homes, then completion of the homes would depend upon the amount of construction workers there are and how many hours they work. Yet, say we could get countless numbers of construction workers working to build these homes, then a) the homes would be built in an incredibly short space of time b) the workers would work far less hours (possibly only 1 - 2 hours per day). This would mean far less stress than the present system offers, not to mention the entire day relaxing and doing whatever you want.

In return for the services the construction workers provide, countless millions could be in the fields growing crops, tending to energy needs, or whatever else is required to make sure that everyone gets the essentials: a home, food, energy, clothing, education, etc.

So, with the free time you have (having only volunteered to work an hour or so) you would be able to fulfill your ambition: you could go to university without having to pay education fees because teachers needs are already being met in return for the service they are providing to society. This way you could spend most of your day learning how to become a computer games designer, a singer or an actor, etc.

When you are educated in your chosen field, you can then volunteer to do what you want to do and you will be guaranteed a 'job' no problem because the company no longer requires funds in order to create vacancies. It requires only volunteers.

Such a concept is in it's infancy (I do admit), but could such a system work? BTW - I'm not proposing Marxism here, rather what I'm trying to get at is, a system were we work for only an hour or so per day, in return all of our needs are met, and we have the whole day free to relax or do whatever we want - as opposed to the present system, which demands that we serve it all day, and have no time to be free and do what we want.
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NO YOU CAN'T DO ANY VIABLE SOCIETY TO WORK W/O MONEY (or other retribution form), not at the existent conscience of the humanity.

There have been done, different tests, such as communist commune of Paraguay of the Jesuits, early settlers in USA, etc

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A moneyless society would definitely work

It wont happen because the ones who hold the money lose their power


The world is free, until we are born, we are then enslaved, we are turned into machines who do nothing except work without which we dont eat drink or live with a roof over our head

if we were free of money we would have peace over night
there would be no profit in wars as there is nothing to fight over because its all free

society has been so pre programmed from birth that we need money to survive, no one has ever thought to look at the alternative, that maybe we don't and it is money that is killing us, not allowing us to survive.

Without money we eradicate poverty over night, we eradicate homelessness, hunger, starvation.

The problem is we eliminate the control the powers that be have over every single one of us

Without money they have no control they have no say they have nothing

they would be the same us every single person in the world

Money is the evil that binds the world, it spreads death, destruction and poverty every where it touches.

The world will wake up one day and realize that money is the root of all our evils in this world and abolish it.
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A moneyless society would definitely work

It wont happen because the ones who hold the money lose their power


The world is free, until we are born, we are then enslaved, we are turned into machines who do nothing except work without which we dont eat drink or live with a roof over our head

if we were free of money we would have peace over night
there would be no profit in wars as there is nothing to fight over because its all free

society has been so pre programmed from birth that we need money to survive, no one has ever thought to look at the alternative, that maybe we don't and it is money that is killing us, not allowing us to survive.

Without money we eradicate poverty over night, we eradicate homelessness, hunger, starvation.

The problem is we eliminate the control the powers that be have over every single one of us

Without money they have no control they have no say they have nothing

they would be the same us every single person in the world

Money is the evil that binds the world, it spreads death, destruction and poverty every where it touches.

The world will wake up one day and realize that money is the root of all our evils in this world and abolish it.
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look, I don't know if you are an utopian, or an immature...

I'm coming from a communist country and we heard those bul$its you are preaching, each day! And we were almost dying of hunger, etc

The problem with all these utopian ideas, is that it could not be applied to humans, in the actual level of conscience development.

It has been proven again and again, that "give to everyone to his necessities and ask from everyone up to his capabilities" it is just a BS.

It has nothing to do with those who are running the society (or very little!). It is related with the human attitude!

Very soon people are learning to take advantage of the system. They will demand the most of perks and free stuffs, but when is the time, to re-pay for those freebies, they will invent lots of excuses, that he is invalid, he cannot..., he has a problem, it's asking form him too much, etc.

That is the problem, the human race has been educated to be a parasite, just to demand, w/o offer anything in return and because of that, all the noble ideas you mention cannot be implemented and be viable and functional. Don't try to tell me who I've been lived through all those issues!
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A moneyless society would definitely work

It wont happen because the ones who hold the money lose their power


The world is free, until we are born, we are then enslaved, we are turned into machines who do nothing except work without which we dont eat drink or live with a roof over our head

if we were free of money we would have peace over night
there would be no profit in wars as there is nothing to fight over because its all free

society has been so pre programmed from birth that we need money to survive, no one has ever thought to look at the alternative, that maybe we don't and it is money that is killing us, not allowing us to survive.

Without money we eradicate poverty over night, we eradicate homelessness, hunger, starvation.

The problem is we eliminate the control the powers that be have over every single one of us

Without money they have no control they have no say they have nothing

they would be the same us every single person in the world

Money is the evil that binds the world, it spreads death, destruction and poverty every where it touches.

The world will wake up one day and realize that money is the root of all our evils in this world and abolish it.
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look, I don't know if you are an utopian, or an immature...

I'm coming from a communist country and we heard those bul$its you are preaching, each day! And we were almost dying of hunger, etc

The problem with all these utopian ideas, is that it could not be applied to humans, in the actual level of conscience development.

It has been proven again and again, that "give to everyone to his necessities and ask from everyone up to his capabilities" it is just a BS.

It has nothing to do with those who are running the society (or very little!). It is related with the human attitude!

Very soon people are learning to take advantage of the system. They will demand the most of perks and free stuffs, but when is the time, to re-pay for those freebies, they will invent lots of excuses, that he is invalid, he cannot..., he has a problem, it's asking form him too much, etc.

That is the problem, the human race has been educated to be a parasite, just to demand, w/o offer anything in return and because of that, all the noble ideas you mention cannot be implemented and be viable and functional. Don't try to tell me who I've been lived through all those issues!
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Have you ever thought the reason they hide Alien existence so much??
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Whatever I wrote about, are real, life facts. About the alien agenda, I won't speculate: I don't know anything that I can state I have a proof. On top of that, I didn't met any alien in my life, did you?
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Real mind bending concept - Fucking ants have been doing this for eons.



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I agree and argue this point all the time..1st page commenters talk about shortages but do not realize that 1 we live in a false scarcity society 2 we produce things to break down so you have to buy more...if we did things efficiently,stop wasting resources, we could have an abundance...they fight this idea bc they think some how it means they will have less...the fact is everyone would have more...more access to free knowledge more independence more people doing the things they love instead of being beaten down into ridiculous jobs that are unnecessary and detrimental to society...scared your Big Mac will go away and no one will want to flip a burger for you? You would have a lot more free time to make your own food which isn't a bunch of processed chemicals. I'm not afraid to say I'm a zeitgeist/rbe advocate.
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They also fail to see the advantage of 7 billion people working together instead of against each other...how fast could we grow? How many more genius children could we nurture in that kind of world? How much more would every one benefit from such a world....I will agree that the current state would make it hard for the transition but that doesn't mean we should give up...it's time to try something new that would raise everyone up and not keep relying on the labor of a poor class to hold up the rich elite.
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A moneyless society would definitely work

It wont happen because the ones who hold the money lose their power


The world is free, until we are born, we are then enslaved, we are turned into machines who do nothing except work without which we dont eat drink or live with a roof over our head

if we were free of money we would have peace over night
there would be no profit in wars as there is nothing to fight over because its all free

society has been so pre programmed from birth that we need money to survive, no one has ever thought to look at the alternative, that maybe we don't and it is money that is killing us, not allowing us to survive.

Without money we eradicate poverty over night, we eradicate homelessness, hunger, starvation.

The problem is we eliminate the control the powers that be have over every single one of us

Without money they have no control they have no say they have nothing

they would be the same us every single person in the world

Money is the evil that binds the world, it spreads death, destruction and poverty every where it touches.

The world will wake up one day and realize that money is the root of all our evils in this world and abolish it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45655879


look, I don't know if you are an utopian, or an immature...

I'm coming from a communist country and we heard those bul$its you are preaching, each day! And we were almost dying of hunger, etc

The problem with all these utopian ideas, is that it could not be applied to humans, in the actual level of conscience development.

It has been proven again and again, that "give to everyone to his necessities and ask from everyone up to his capabilities" it is just a BS.

It has nothing to do with those who are running the society (or very little!). It is related with the human attitude!

Very soon people are learning to take advantage of the system. They will demand the most of perks and free stuffs, but when is the time, to re-pay for those freebies, they will invent lots of excuses, that he is invalid, he cannot..., he has a problem, it's asking form him too much, etc.

That is the problem, the human race has been educated to be a parasite, just to demand, w/o offer anything in return and because of that, all the noble ideas you mention cannot be implemented and be viable and functional. Don't try to tell me who I've been lived through all those issues!
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You said it yourself, you came from a communist country.

Theres the problem right there.

Communism, Capitalism, are all bullshit, they are corrupt political systems they both rely on money and where there is money there is corruption.

OP said a moneyless society.
Take away the money, take away the corruption, take away the greed. Most importantly you take away the only means of control tptb have over every single one of us.
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OK, a company depends upon money in order to create jobs. Well, what if a company didn't need money in order to create jobs? Then limitless amounts of people could be employed. This would mean that the more hands volunteering to work, then there would be higher productivity, thus the worker would only have to spend an hour or two per day working.

As an example: say we have a group of construction workers working to create new homes, then completion of the homes would depend upon the amount of construction workers there are and how many hours they work. Yet, say we could get countless numbers of construction workers working to build these homes, then a) the homes would be built in an incredibly short space of time b) the workers would work far less hours (possibly only 1 - 2 hours per day). This would mean far less stress than the present system offers, not to mention the entire day relaxing and doing whatever you want.

In return for the services the construction workers provide, countless millions could be in the fields growing crops, tending to energy needs, or whatever else is required to make sure that everyone gets the essentials: a home, food, energy, clothing, education, etc.

So, with the free time you have (having only volunteered to work an hour or so) you would be able to fulfill your ambition: you could go to university without having to pay education fees because teachers needs are already being met in return for the service they are providing to society. This way you could spend most of your day learning how to become a computer games designer, a singer or an actor, etc.

When you are educated in your chosen field, you can then volunteer to do what you want to do and you will be guaranteed a 'job' no problem because the company no longer requires funds in order to create vacancies. It requires only volunteers.

Such a concept is in it's infancy (I do admit), but could such a system work? BTW - I'm not proposing Marxism here, rather what I'm trying to get at is, a system were we work for only an hour or so per day, in return all of our needs are met, and we have the whole day free to relax or do whatever we want - as opposed to the present system, which demands that we serve it all day, and have no time to be free and do what we want.
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Just because you have experienced the negative aspects of such a society, which there has to date not have been. People being unified can either be bad or good. Purpose and direction determine these things. There has to be a standard. A creed, outline or guideline, or vision to guide the constant mindset of the individuals of such a society. Clear cut and precise. Abscent of vagueness.


But it is doable, considering the system is built on love.Many do not understand Agatha love or that love is comprised of actions and deeds.

I read through the posts and it seems a good chunk of those who oppose such a society are only concerned about what others will be doing. Not about what they can or are capable of doing for the society.

Ask the right questions and the universe will respond with the right answers.

I see ministructures of this in the pc gaming community. A game is released and then the community adds to he community experience via mods. Free of charge, at the volunteers decision, Content is freely given and freely received for betterment of all. Emotions such as joy, sense of
accomplishment, and being a contributor to ones own society goes a long way. In some unspoken way it knits the unseen. Fabric of togetherness.


Either way, this system and the world structure it has caused to be built must be done away with."Do not put new wine in old wineskins."

The True Holy Messiah will see to this to its completion.
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Whatever I wrote about, are real, life facts. About the alien agenda, I won't speculate: I don't know anything that I can state I have a proof. On top of that, I didn't met any alien in my life, did you?
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I saw an orb of light, when I was bicycling my way to the beach crying about my fucked up "The Nobody" life. It showed up right in front of me on the sky. A woman saw it with me.

About one year later to the dot, I saw another one. This time I took pictures.

It can mean only two things: military hologram to fuck my mind up. Or the real thing: an orb of light.

If it was an orb of light, it knew I was crying the first time, and showed up one year later to remind me of it.

So, with all that being said, I do not agree how the system is run in here. Nor do I think they agree either.

Because they showed up to comfort me.

To give me hope and strength to stand the CRIMINALITY of masonry and all the rest of the bullshit.

You have no idea how my life sucks! Because of them!
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So how long do I work in a field before I get a house. And can I just bring water to the field workers and still qualify for a home. Can I just fill the water vessel for the guy carrying the water and still qualify. Hmm, I don't think this is going to work. I'm going to expect more for what I do, and I want a better than average home. Go figure.
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You don't have to qualify for a house. Everyone deserves a house.
Don't think about this for that. it's this for other people helping you out. You'll be gratefull and (maybe not immediately) will be inspired to do something back (something you like to do). That's how it works.
Kinda like your household. You don't get paid to put the trash out.
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I have no intention of working so you useless eaters can have a nice comfy roof over your heads and have a full belly when you go to bed. I have no intention of working so your kids can eat.

FUCK YOU. Get the fuck off your own dead ass and make it happen for yourself, or don't, I don't care.

I don't care if you starve. I don't care if your kids grow up under a bridge. If you don't provide for them, then it sux to be them. But you're not going to live off of MY productivity. FUCK YOU!
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laugh





OH god that was good, made me laugh til I cried. lol!
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A moneyless society would definitely work

It wont happen because the ones who hold the money lose their power


The world is free, until we are born, we are then enslaved, we are turned into machines who do nothing except work without which we dont eat drink or live with a roof over our head

if we were free of money we would have peace over night
there would be no profit in wars as there is nothing to fight over because its all free

society has been so pre programmed from birth that we need money to survive, no one has ever thought to look at the alternative, that maybe we don't and it is money that is killing us, not allowing us to survive.

Without money we eradicate poverty over night, we eradicate homelessness, hunger, starvation.

The problem is we eliminate the control the powers that be have over every single one of us

Without money they have no control they have no say they have nothing

they would be the same us every single person in the world

Money is the evil that binds the world, it spreads death, destruction and poverty every where it touches.

The world will wake up one day and realize that money is the root of all our evils in this world and abolish it.
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look, I don't know if you are an utopian, or an immature...

I'm coming from a communist country and we heard those bul$its you are preaching, each day! And we were almost dying of hunger, etc

The problem with all these utopian ideas, is that it could not be applied to humans, in the actual level of conscience development.

It has been proven again and again, that "give to everyone to his necessities and ask from everyone up to his capabilities" it is just a BS.

It has nothing to do with those who are running the society (or very little!). It is related with the human attitude!

Very soon people are learning to take advantage of the system. They will demand the most of perks and free stuffs, but when is the time, to re-pay for those freebies, they will invent lots of excuses, that he is invalid, he cannot..., he has a problem, it's asking form him too much, etc.

That is the problem, the human race has been educated to be a parasite, just to demand, w/o offer anything in return and because of that, all the noble ideas you mention cannot be implemented and be viable and functional. Don't try to tell me who I've been lived through all those issues!
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You said it yourself, you came from a communist country.

Theres the problem right there.

Communism, Capitalism, are all bullshit, they are corrupt political systems they both rely on money and where there is money there is corruption.

OP said a moneyless society.
Take away the money, take away the corruption, take away the greed. Most importantly you take away the only means of control tptb have over every single one of us.
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But if you take away money, they will just use another form of something as currency. See? Hell, the Romans used to pay their soldiers in walnuts or salt. Yes! it was used as currency! Can you imagine working for salt nowadays? lmao! There would be some hell to pay if you think about it. people are greedy, it's ingrained in them to be greedy. people like money, but they hate having to work for it.
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Life is supposed to be easy. New world is coming.
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Life is supposed to be easy. New world is coming.
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Not before we go through hell first and I mean some real hell, too. This is nothing compared to what you will see in the future. Everything is going backwards. Right is wrong and wrong is right now.
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A moneyless society would definitely work

It wont happen because the ones who hold the money lose their power


The world is free, until we are born, we are then enslaved, we are turned into machines who do nothing except work without which we dont eat drink or live with a roof over our head

if we were free of money we would have peace over night
there would be no profit in wars as there is nothing to fight over because its all free

society has been so pre programmed from birth that we need money to survive, no one has ever thought to look at the alternative, that maybe we don't and it is money that is killing us, not allowing us to survive.

Without money we eradicate poverty over night, we eradicate homelessness, hunger, starvation.

The problem is we eliminate the control the powers that be have over every single one of us

Without money they have no control they have no say they have nothing

they would be the same us every single person in the world

Money is the evil that binds the world, it spreads death, destruction and poverty every where it touches.

The world will wake up one day and realize that money is the root of all our evils in this world and abolish it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45655879


look, I don't know if you are an utopian, or an immature...

I'm coming from a communist country and we heard those bul$its you are preaching, each day! And we were almost dying of hunger, etc

The problem with all these utopian ideas, is that it could not be applied to humans, in the actual level of conscience development.

It has been proven again and again, that "give to everyone to his necessities and ask from everyone up to his capabilities" it is just a BS.

It has nothing to do with those who are running the society (or very little!). It is related with the human attitude!

Very soon people are learning to take advantage of the system. They will demand the most of perks and free stuffs, but when is the time, to re-pay for those freebies, they will invent lots of excuses, that he is invalid, he cannot..., he has a problem, it's asking form him too much, etc.

That is the problem, the human race has been educated to be a parasite, just to demand, w/o offer anything in return and because of that, all the noble ideas you mention cannot be implemented and be viable and functional. Don't try to tell me who I've been lived through all those issues!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45683495


You said it yourself, you came from a communist country.

Theres the problem right there.

Communism, Capitalism, are all bullshit, they are corrupt political systems they both rely on money and where there is money there is corruption.

OP said a moneyless society.
Take away the money, take away the corruption, take away the greed. Most importantly you take away the only means of control tptb have over every single one of us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45655879


You said: "take away this, take away that". This process of taking away something from this equation, it is meaning that you need to alter the conscience of the humans, to change their current paradigm.

At the current level of understanding, of admitting and acknowledging the responsibilities, has been proven that it is NOT POSSIBLE!

We need to RAISE THE PEOPLE AWARENESS, WE NEED TO MAKE THE PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THEIR MISSION - FIRST!

This is my whole point, it is something UTOPIC at the current point in space and time! All which tried, failed miserably!

Some issue that all missed in those trials, was the spiritual thing. That realization that, in the first place, the human is a spiritual being with a mission of fulfillment and secondary is a physical being, that has necessities that must be covered, etc.

The actual paradigm in which the people are raised is focused just on the physicality, with just a small touch for spirituality, just to give more credence to the physicality. How the spirituality is seen in this current paradigm, It is just the cherry on the cake, and is not the cake itself.

The fact that I has been lived a big chunk of my life in a communist country, than that I had the opportunity to observe also the functionality of many capitalist societies in different ethnic and cultural environments, makes from me a man with feet on the ground when speaking about these things and not barely quoting, someone's books or just imagining.

So, if all the experience here on GLP, is only about of acknowledging something that someone saying (to be a YES MAN!) and people here are not prepared or have an open mind, to accept also, divergent ideas or different paradigms than those expose, I'm sorry, I cannot comply because I cannot be molded by other people whims and wishes...
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A moneyless society would definitely work

It wont happen because the ones who hold the money lose their power


The world is free, until we are born, we are then enslaved, we are turned into machines who do nothing except work without which we dont eat drink or live with a roof over our head

if we were free of money we would have peace over night
there would be no profit in wars as there is nothing to fight over because its all free

society has been so pre programmed from birth that we need money to survive, no one has ever thought to look at the alternative, that maybe we don't and it is money that is killing us, not allowing us to survive.

Without money we eradicate poverty over night, we eradicate homelessness, hunger, starvation.

The problem is we eliminate the control the powers that be have over every single one of us

Without money they have no control they have no say they have nothing

they would be the same us every single person in the world

Money is the evil that binds the world, it spreads death, destruction and poverty every where it touches.

The world will wake up one day and realize that money is the root of all our evils in this world and abolish it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45655879


look, I don't know if you are an utopian, or an immature...

I'm coming from a communist country and we heard those bul$its you are preaching, each day! And we were almost dying of hunger, etc

The problem with all these utopian ideas, is that it could not be applied to humans, in the actual level of conscience development.

It has been proven again and again, that "give to everyone to his necessities and ask from everyone up to his capabilities" it is just a BS.

It has nothing to do with those who are running the society (or very little!). It is related with the human attitude!

Very soon people are learning to take advantage of the system. They will demand the most of perks and free stuffs, but when is the time, to re-pay for those freebies, they will invent lots of excuses, that he is invalid, he cannot..., he has a problem, it's asking form him too much, etc.

That is the problem, the human race has been educated to be a parasite, just to demand, w/o offer anything in return and because of that, all the noble ideas you mention cannot be implemented and be viable and functional. Don't try to tell me who I've been lived through all those issues!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45683495


You said it yourself, you came from a communist country.

Theres the problem right there.

Communism, Capitalism, are all bullshit, they are corrupt political systems they both rely on money and where there is money there is corruption.

OP said a moneyless society.
Take away the money, take away the corruption, take away the greed. Most importantly you take away the only means of control tptb have over every single one of us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45655879


But if you take away money, they will just use another form of something as currency. See? Hell, the Romans used to pay their soldiers in walnuts or salt. Yes! it was used as currency! Can you imagine working for salt nowadays? lmao! There would be some hell to pay if you think about it. people are greedy, it's ingrained in them to be greedy. people like money, but they hate having to work for it.
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People are taught to be greedy.

A child knows nothing of the world. They come in empty.

Greed is ingrained, it is taught, it is programed into us.

Take away the money, take away the greed
Money is a drug that has us all addicted to it, and like all addictions it takes time to get over.

But once we are over the addiction and through the other side, once we have changed our thinking our upbringing our whole way of life and our systems and break free from the control we would be a better society.

The fact is tptb will never allow it to happen.
It would need a huge huge change to make something like that happen, it couldnt happen in just one place and spread, because the outside influences would corrupt the idea and destroy it, like the whole Roman and salt thing.

It would have to be across the world, all at once, at the same time.

So impossible.
But a nice idea.

Just the responses on here show how hard it would be, people are like sheep, they need to play follow my leader, tptb know this and exploit us to the maximum.