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Jup (OP) User ID: 32952003  Germany02/23/2013 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34786716  United States02/23/2013 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The irony being that a lot of extreme left feminists stand in support of Islam! They proudly pronounce that women being forced to cover themselves up is liberating! I say force each one to marry a fat sweaty Pakistani Muslim man and see if they feel the same after being held captive indoors and brutally sodomised three times a day for 20 years straight, all the while having to wear a burka. there are women in Iran and Afghanistan who insist they wear a burqa. they feel it is their religious duty as Muslim women, also they think it's right to be subservient to their husband. the Muslim world is a man's world. does that look so crazy now? I'm not a Muslim but I can appreciate that. look what you get when you make women equal to men. women aren't equal to men. let the men do men's things, and the women do women's things. it so happens that men are the ones who are made, physically and mentally, to do the hard labor, bring home the food, do the fighting, and be the foundation of society. women simply are not. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35009055 United States02/23/2013 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a plan for the men movement: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34817033 Keep your standards high so that these modern females that you described are not good enough for you. Reject them. Will they wear even less clothing? Maybe, but eventually they will get it. Step one is to let them know that they cannot get every guy they want. You nailed it. This sounds exactly like what I'm doing. Recently I was chatting with this pretty hot girl then she exposes her true self and I just walk away. She made this face, shocked I didn't stick around or ask for her number. Shitty women, no matter how attractive, are a dime a dozen. I've been burned enough times. I'll enjoy my money and time with my family and friends. I don't need her shit.  sounds like you have the right idea. some of my friends just look for guys with good paychecks so they don't have to work. even worse is most of them still hook up with other men even though they're married, because they aren't that attracted to their husbands. |
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| morphic oceans User ID: 25960283  United Kingdom02/23/2013 10:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You all talking While the powers are walking. Walking you into a state of confusion that is directly contradictory to your role in nature. You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean, If a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty. Mahatma Gandhi. Unfortunately an oil spill has occurred. A big oil spill that happened very slowly and succinctly. This is a terrble mess and you are in it. |
| davId User ID: 33758960 United States02/23/2013 10:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I decided to use this title, because it fits, and not because a book with the same title exists. This discussion should not just be about a certain book, because all kind of different things like movies, books, magazines and people talk very bad about men. On one side every book and every movie in the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s made men look like they are a mix of a James Bond and a mythological god. Girls did everything just to get a kiss from a men. Quoting: Jup Girls even started to cry in movies just to get a little bit respect from men. Today men cry to get a little bit respect from girls. The new alpha bitch (Thats also the title of a book by the way) is the new 24 hour activated weapon and men are looking exactly into this 24 hour activated alpha bitch mode weapon, called "modern" female. Men just are living these days without any reason. Men lost their goal of life. Men have mostly not a lot money these days or no money at all. Men are living at their mothers house at age 28 because men do not have a good chance anymore to find a job, because females take away more and more jobs and sections that actually should be full of guys because in the 90s and 80s shops used guys everywhere, but these days you just see cute sexy looking girls in the shops working. Thats not just in my country like that. Go to england, go to america, go to asia or wherever you are, girls are in the office, instead of guys and thats also because the boss rather will choose a hot girl, instead a guy, thats just happy to make some money, so he can hang around with friends and drink some beer in clubs on weekends. The boss will rather give jobs to hot beautiful girls. Its not just a made up idea. Just think about the fact that you, as a men, also would rather have a hot blonde next to you all day in the office, instead of a guy. Its also a problem that modern females are extremly bold and devilish, they are, just compare the the females you see in 80s and 70s movies and compare them with the modern females of today. The guys didn´t changed. The guys still are looking for the "big thing" in life, still looking for knowledge, fun and extreme situations. But the females just changed in a very negative way because all kind of different persons changed the way we see and understand females. Scientists, doctors and all kind of people started around the end of the 90s to talk 24 hours about the "new" facts why females are so much better! And at the same time doctors and scientists talked about guys like guys just are a bunch of perverts with sick fantasies about rape, violence and criminal activity! The "new" men was born soon! The men of media! All hate of this world he received. We do not need anymore primitive stupid stone-age men in our modern society! - was the new subliminal message everywhere and this still is going on today in every magazine, book, tv show, tv movie, tv series and and and! Poor men of today! Also if again a child got killed or molested, of course, a guy was the sick pervert! Thats again some brilliant concept to project even more the picture of a sick pervert primitive dangerous bad criminal beast on the - official - picture of men. Guys are totally bullshit. Thats the new subliminal message everywhere. Females are the new alphas + bosses. Thats also the new subliminal message. Girls can to everything better is the new message. Girls are better thinkers, better lovers, better people, better cowboys, better men, better boys, better bosses, better doctors, they are better in everything is the new message everywhere. Also science said years ago that men has more brain because its bigger. Now science says females have more brain because their brains have more nerve-cells. And science says the both sides of the brain are better connected, higher emotional intelligence is the result and stronger depper intelligence. But why everything that exists got designed and invented by men if females are so much better? Mathematics, if I read books about mathematics, not one female is there with mathematical theories. Or astronomy, or the industry, or synthesizers (did girls invented and constructed them? No.), or technology itself, not one girl has anything done or created on this planet. Females just put pervert clothes on to sex up guys and what guys get back? The official message that guys just want sex! But what do females expect if you see all day on every channel just naked or half naked girls doing things that really are just making guys explode in their pants? What do you all expect? That guys will watch away? No, guys want sex and they get these days not that easy anymore sex like they used to get in the 90s, 80s, 70s, 60s, 50s, 40s and so on. Because the hole situation is now against men. And females think bad about men because everyone on media is against men. So just the few guys that are very good looking, have very much friends in higher positions, have a very important job, a lot of money, drive a nice car and have around age 25 already their own house - such guys will make it and girls just are looking for such guys these days. And these days girls are looking more for such guys like in the 90s or 80s or 70s. So these days men are just a bunch of loosers for the media. There is a female movement. But there is no male movement. Why? We need one. And we guys need to talk about this stuff. To stay silent will be not the solution. that's depressing for sure. i'm feeling kinda superfluous. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21102346 United States02/23/2013 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey, my wife and I have a great relationship and we very much 'do our own thing'. Trust me, a relationship can be equal if a man doesn't abdicate his right to be a man to placate the MILF. Quoting: American Sith: Darth Shillerus That's what I see, I see assholes that think they have to have toys they can't afford in order to keep Princess Boltauns happy. They fret over their credit scores so they can keep the Bayliner and the nice car. They spaz out if the MILF seems even marginally uncomfortable. The root of America's problems lies with both sexes. Vapid women who think that they 'must' have everything they want right fucking then and shallow men who marry a gal solely on the shape of her ass and tits and how much bondo she has caked on to her cheekbones. Women don't mother and men don't father, husbands don't husband, and wives don't wive and what we have his 16 pregnant and the 'real' housewives of *insert shithole*. When America falls, it'll be because of asswipes that can't say 'no' to anything that 'baby love' wants. Take your fucking 'honey-do' list and shove it up your ass bitch, I'm teaching my son to build cabinets. DOOMED! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35009308  Romania02/23/2013 11:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In most Hollywood movies (Hollyweird being controlled almost exclusively by a certain tribe) rated PG and targeted at preteen children, there's now a scene of some hapless guy getting kicked in the balls, etc., to the amusement of the audience. Of course femcunts have no problem with this, though they would be outraged at any scenes wherein women were treated likewise, even if on accident, etc. For that matter, why is forcible male genital mutilation/circumcision considered perfectly acceptable (and rather taboo to criticize) whilst female circumcision, whether more or less severe than its male equivalent is [rightly!] detested in the West? This situation of course is due both to the dominance of the Tribe (including by proxy through OT-obsessed Puritanical/7DA "Christians") and the devaluation of men; the question is, does this mistreatment of men have an even more sinister ultimate motive? Almost certainly, inasmuch as men are better able to actually resist the elite. Quoting: Smash_The_ZOG 1348494 The stereotypes from the whorywood movies were aimed to exacerbate penis envy in women and castration anxiety in men. And they were very effective! Carl Jung interpreted the theory of penis envy and proposed Animus theory. Animus, according to Carl Jung is the existence of inner male in every woman, which develops from the experience a woman had with her father or any father-figure earlier in her life. A girl resolves her complex by penis envy and a boy by castration anxiety. If a boy and a girl fail to resolve their complexes, they might develop neurosis, personality disorder, homosexuality, even pedophilia. [link to vinayaghimire.hubpages.com] In the early 20th century, psychoanalytic theory associated nymphomania with frigidity, penis envy, lesbianism and prostitution, all thought to stem from a woman's "immature" inability to enjoy vaginal orgasms. [link to www.amazon.com] Even a cursory history often shows that nymphomaniacs are completely frigid or do not orgasm regularly and promptly. Sexual intercourse can bring them pleasure, but does not satisfy them, that makes them force satisfaction through new sexual relationships with different men and under different circumstances. Psychoanalysis and psychotherapy show that the nymphomaniac as philanderers differ severe narcissistic installation, intense fear of loss of love and dependence on narcissistic satisfaction, as well as pregenital and sadistic sexuality is coloring throughout. They usually refer to an object is ambiguous, because, consciously or unconsciously hold it responsible for the failure to obtain satisfaction. Sadistic setting is shown in an attempt to forcibly coerce partners to provide full sexual satisfaction, to thereby restore self-esteem. This can be combined with a vindictive type of female castration complex. This fact is the subject of such a strong desire that is associated with penis envy, and, therefore, nymphomaniacs are often eager to realize the fantasy of depriving men of penis. The very way in which they incorporate into the penis fantasy, indicates that their genital desire in reality is pseudogenital and mainly has oral origin. Psychoanalysis reveals the features of the previous relationship to her mother, giving the Oedipus complex nymphomaniac oral, exacting nature. Normally, the transition from arousal of the clitoris to the vagina once again mobilized the oral orientation. Nymphomaniac overly involved in this process, they unconsciously mean vagina as mouth. Again, as in the case of male hypersexuality, similar symptoms can result from other unconscious perverse inclinations. [link to www.freud-sigmund.com] Vagina dentata or vagina dententa, Latin for vagina with teeth or toothed vagina. In psychoanalytic theory, the unconscious fantasy that the vagina contains teeth that can castrate a male during coition; this fantasy is said to be based, in males, on castration anxiety, and in females, on penis envy and a subconscious desire to castrate the males out of revenge. [link to www.definition-of.com] In her controversial best-seller Sexual Personae (1991), Camille Paglia wrote: The toothed vagina is no sexist hallucination: every penis is made less by every vagina, just as mankind, male and female, is devoured by mother nature. [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 32952003 Germany02/23/2013 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If thats already making you depressing and feeling superflous, you should not read this new book. Every tv channel is talking about this book. Media is celebrating this book: Thats her book and media is celebrating her book: [link to www.amazon.com] [link to www.independent.co.uk] It almost makes you laugh. The idea that Western society is facing "the end of men" almost makes you titter a bit hysterically. It almost makes you want to sit down with a cup of coffee, and perhaps a cake, but definitely not a cupcake, and ask the American journalist who thinks it is if she's mad. She thinks she isn’t. The American journalist, who’s called Hanna Rosin, and wrote an article called The End of Men, which created quite a stir, and has now written a book called The End of Men, which is creating quite a stir, has looked at a lot of statistics and decided that, for men, the game is up. "In 2009," she says, "for the first time in American history, the balance of the workforce tipped toward women." Women, she says, "dominate colleges and professional schools on every continent except Africa". The US economy, she says, is "becoming a kind of travelling sisterhood". Personality tests, she says, "show men tiptoeing into new territory, while women race into theirs". We have, she thinks, reached a "tipping point" and when the pendulum swings, men will be left behind. In certain areas, she's right. In big parts of America, and Britain, and Europe, where men used to work in mines, and shipyards, and factories, and now sit around waiting for their next benefit cheque, she's right. In areas like this, where the work that men used to do has gone, and the new work, if there is any, isn't the kind of work they're good at, she's right. In areas like this, it's often the women who get the jobs, while the men they live with, or often don't live with, stay at home. But the end of men? The end of men, in politics, and media, and law, and medicine, and business, and banks, in charge? The end of men running newspapers, and broadcasting corporations, and political parties, and countries? Yes, it's nice that, as Rosin says, Iceland has a woman prime minister who wants to end the "age of testosterone". It's always nice when Nordic countries with tiny populations and very good childcare give big jobs to women. But it's also nice when women journalists who are trying to sell a lot of books can tell the difference between an argument and a trend. If Hanna Rosin were to come to this country, which, she says, is facing the same shift in gender power as her country is, she might want to switch on the telly. If she did, she would probably notice that most of the politicians who were interviewed were men, and most of the bankers who were interviewed were men, and most of the lawyers who were interviewed were men. She might notice that most of the people who were interviewing them were also men, and so were most of the people who were interviewing them on the radio. And if, for example, she were to flick through the newspapers, she might notice that about 80 per cent of the articles in them were written by men, and so were most of the books reviewed. If Hanna Rosin noticed these things, she might think that we all knew why they happened, and that you didn't really have to spell it out. She might talk about culture. She might talk about ambition. She might, in fact, say what we all know: that many women don't write books, or run countries, or banks, because it takes quite a lot of effort to write a book, or run a country or a bank, and it's hard to make that effort if you're looking after children as well. Hanna Rosin might say that nobody is actually discriminating against these women, and that if they don’t put in the work, they can't expect the rewards. And if she did, she might be right. If you don't put in the work, you can't expect the rewards. If you leave work hours before your colleagues, and don't get a promotion, it may be upsetting, but it isn't unfair. But Hanna Rosin might also notice that a fifth of British women, and a fifth of American women, don't have children, and when it comes to women graduates, it's nearly a third. She might wonder why these women, who aren't leaving the office early, aren't rising to the top. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35009917 United States02/23/2013 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I decided to use this title, because it fits, and not because a book with the same title exists. This discussion should not just be about a certain book, because all kind of different things like movies, books, magazines and people talk very bad about men. On one side every book and every movie in the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s made men look like they are a mix of a James Bond and a mythological god. Girls did everything just to get a kiss from a men. Quoting: Jup Girls even started to cry in movies just to get a little bit respect from men. Today men cry to get a little bit respect from girls. The new alpha bitch (Thats also the title of a book by the way) is the new 24 hour activated weapon and men are looking exactly into this 24 hour activated alpha bitch mode weapon, called "modern" female. Men just are living these days without any reason. Men lost their goal of life. Men have mostly not a lot money these days or no money at all. Men are living at their mothers house at age 28 because men do not have a good chance anymore to find a job, because females take away more and more jobs and sections that actually should be full of guys because in the 90s and 80s shops used guys everywhere, but these days you just see cute sexy looking girls in the shops working. Thats not just in my country like that. Go to england, go to america, go to asia or wherever you are, girls are in the office, instead of guys and thats also because the boss rather will choose a hot girl, instead a guy, thats just happy to make some money, so he can hang around with friends and drink some beer in clubs on weekends. The boss will rather give jobs to hot beautiful girls. Its not just a made up idea. Just think about the fact that you, as a men, also would rather have a hot blonde next to you all day in the office, instead of a guy. Its also a problem that modern females are extremly bold and devilish, they are, just compare the the females you see in 80s and 70s movies and compare them with the modern females of today. The guys didn´t changed. The guys still are looking for the "big thing" in life, still looking for knowledge, fun and extreme situations. But the females just changed in a very negative way because all kind of different persons changed the way we see and understand females. Scientists, doctors and all kind of people started around the end of the 90s to talk 24 hours about the "new" facts why females are so much better! And at the same time doctors and scientists talked about guys like guys just are a bunch of perverts with sick fantasies about rape, violence and criminal activity! The "new" men was born soon! The men of media! All hate of this world he received. We do not need anymore primitive stupid stone-age men in our modern society! - was the new subliminal message everywhere and this still is going on today in every magazine, book, tv show, tv movie, tv series and and and! Poor men of today! Also if again a child got killed or molested, of course, a guy was the sick pervert! Thats again some brilliant concept to project even more the picture of a sick pervert primitive dangerous bad criminal beast on the - official - picture of men. Guys are totally bullshit. Thats the new subliminal message everywhere. Females are the new alphas + bosses. Thats also the new subliminal message. Girls can to everything better is the new message. Girls are better thinkers, better lovers, better people, better cowboys, better men, better boys, better bosses, better doctors, they are better in everything is the new message everywhere. Also science said years ago that men has more brain because its bigger. Now science says females have more brain because their brains have more nerve-cells. And science says the both sides of the brain are better connected, higher emotional intelligence is the result and stronger depper intelligence. But why everything that exists got designed and invented by men if females are so much better? Mathematics, if I read books about mathematics, not one female is there with mathematical theories. Or astronomy, or the industry, or synthesizers (did girls invented and constructed them? No.), or technology itself, not one girl has anything done or created on this planet. Females just put pervert clothes on to sex up guys and what guys get back? The official message that guys just want sex! But what do females expect if you see all day on every channel just naked or half naked girls doing things that really are just making guys explode in their pants? What do you all expect? That guys will watch away? No, guys want sex and they get these days not that easy anymore sex like they used to get in the 90s, 80s, 70s, 60s, 50s, 40s and so on. Because the hole situation is now against men. And females think bad about men because everyone on media is against men. So just the few guys that are very good looking, have very much friends in higher positions, have a very important job, a lot of money, drive a nice car and have around age 25 already their own house - such guys will make it and girls just are looking for such guys these days. And these days girls are looking more for such guys like in the 90s or 80s or 70s. So these days men are just a bunch of loosers for the media. There is a female movement. But there is no male movement. Why? We need one. And we guys need to talk about this stuff. To stay silent will be not the solution.  You're probably one of these Germans who orders a submissive Thai woman out of a catalogue. |
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| TTX8K82 User ID: 26400095 United States02/23/2013 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The creator of "Star Trek", Gene Roddenberry, in his "Planet Earth" series, was about women taking over and putting men into slavery. [link to www.youtube.com] |
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| Phenomenon User ID: 8361466 United States02/23/2013 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The irony being that a lot of extreme left feminists stand in support of Islam! They proudly pronounce that women being forced to cover themselves up is liberating! I say force each one to marry a fat sweaty Pakistani Muslim man and see if they feel the same after being held captive indoors and brutally sodomised three times a day for 20 years straight, all the while having to wear a burka. there are women in Iran and Afghanistan who insist they wear a burqa. they feel it is their religious duty as Muslim women, also they think it's right to be subservient to their husband. the Muslim world is a man's world. does that look so crazy now? I'm not a Muslim but I can appreciate that. look what you get when you make women equal to men. women aren't equal to men. let the men do men's things, and the women do women's things. it so happens that men are the ones who are made, physically and mentally, to do the hard labor, bring home the food, do the fighting, and be the foundation of society. women simply are not. BY and large the Muslim women I have met were happy with their life. Their roles are defined and they have worked out a way of life that also gives them great satisfaction. Most Muslim women, or even women of the Middle East and Asia do not bemoan their position. For example, many women use the Burqua as a fasion statement. When at home they are quite normal and lovely. I am not saying I prefer that culture over my own ( Nordic) But it IS better than what we have today. In old Norse the women had much freedom but not rule. If I had to choose which system today provides a more classic family lifestyle and better place for children, The Muslims or Middle eastern and Asian systems seem to provide it better than the West. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34998352 United Kingdom02/23/2013 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | women aren't equal to men. let the men do men's things, and the women do women's things. it so happens that men are the ones who are made, physically and mentally, to do the hard labor, bring home the food, do the fighting, and be the foundation of society. women simply are not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34786716 +1 Women are not ment for these things, nor should they aspire to do these things. Why try to do something you're not built for? Women have been brainwashed to not want to be a housewife or home maker. It's "progression" to get women out of that stereotypical role.. No. The only thing that we had wrong was that some men were being dickheads and mistreating their loyal wives instead of appreciating their hard work in the home. I honestly don't know why a woman wouldn't want to be a housewife. It's not like you're cleaning 24/7. You don't have to put up with a boss, workplace stress/health hazards, and you have some free time to engage in your own pursuits like reading, artistic things, etc. I would LOVE to have that role and have a husband who provided, but I'm a man so. The real loser in all of this is the children. If both parents are working the children lose out. The mother should be nuturing the child pretty much constantly.. leaving them in the hands of potentially devious childcare workers is the worst idea we ever came up with. Children suffer neurologically without a mothers influence, especially when they're really young. This isn't a men vs women issue. This is a people vs establishment issue. Every time the pendulum swings the other way too quickly (eg rapid rise of feminism) the elite is probably manipulating things. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35009917 United States02/23/2013 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The irony being that a lot of extreme left feminists stand in support of Islam! They proudly pronounce that women being forced to cover themselves up is liberating! I say force each one to marry a fat sweaty Pakistani Muslim man and see if they feel the same after being held captive indoors and brutally sodomised three times a day for 20 years straight, all the while having to wear a burka. there are women in Iran and Afghanistan who insist they wear a burqa. they feel it is their religious duty as Muslim women, also they think it's right to be subservient to their husband. the Muslim world is a man's world. does that look so crazy now? I'm not a Muslim but I can appreciate that. look what you get when you make women equal to men. women aren't equal to men. let the men do men's things, and the women do women's things. it so happens that men are the ones who are made, physically and mentally, to do the hard labor, bring home the food, do the fighting, and be the foundation of society. women simply are not. BY and large the Muslim women I have met were happy with their life. Their roles are defined and they have worked out a way of life that also gives them great satisfaction. Most Muslim women, or even women of the Middle East and Asia do not bemoan their position. For example, many women use the Burqua as a fasion statement. When at home they are quite normal and lovely. I am not saying I prefer that culture over my own ( Nordic) But it IS better than what we have today. In old Norse the women had much freedom but not rule. If I had to choose which system today provides a more classic family lifestyle and better place for children, The Muslims or Middle eastern and Asian systems seem to provide it better than the West. muslim men are sick. they cut of the nose and ears of women when they don't "obey". they stone women and set them on fire. the women have to cover their face because men are really pussies hiding behind all that violence and machoism. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35009917 United States02/23/2013 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | women aren't equal to men. let the men do men's things, and the women do women's things. it so happens that men are the ones who are made, physically and mentally, to do the hard labor, bring home the food, do the fighting, and be the foundation of society. women simply are not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34786716 +1 Women are not ment for these things, nor should they aspire to do these things. Why try to do something you're not built for? Women have been brainwashed to not want to be a housewife or home maker. It's "progression" to get women out of that stereotypical role.. No. The only thing that we had wrong was that some men were being dickheads and mistreating their loyal wives instead of appreciating their hard work in the home. I honestly don't know why a woman wouldn't want to be a housewife. It's not like you're cleaning 24/7. You don't have to put up with a boss, workplace stress/health hazards, and you have some free time to engage in your own pursuits like reading, artistic things, etc. I would LOVE to have that role and have a husband who provided, but I'm a man so. The real loser in all of this is the children. If both parents are working the children lose out. The mother should be nuturing the child pretty much constantly.. leaving them in the hands of potentially devious childcare workers is the worst idea we ever came up with. Children suffer neurologically without a mothers influence, especially when they're really young. This isn't a men vs women issue. This is a people vs establishment issue. Every time the pendulum swings the other way too quickly (eg rapid rise of feminism) the elite is probably manipulating things. if women were still housewives standing in the kitchen and ironing your clothes, we would be robbed of many amazing doctors, scientists, philosophers, writers and artists. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21102346 United States02/23/2013 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You bought this fairytale. Blame advertising or blame yourself for not being able to control your urges. I don't care. I'd rather be emasculated than RAPED AND BEAT. If you want a decent companion, better work on being decent yourself. If women were stronger than men, they would have beat the shit out of them and taken what they wanted, you know like men did!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So women used what they had, lying, and manipulation. You want to play stupid, go ahead. I think men and women should go their separate ways until they figure out what a decent human being looks like! Especially if your going to have kids. |
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| The Sonic Dreamer User ID: 19453308 United States02/23/2013 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I decided to use this title, because it fits, and not because a book with the same title exists. This discussion should not just be about a certain book, because all kind of different things like movies, books, magazines and people talk very bad about men. On one side every book and every movie in the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s made men look like they are a mix of a James Bond and a mythological god. Girls did everything just to get a kiss from a men. Quoting: Jup Girls even started to cry in movies just to get a little bit respect from men. Today men cry to get a little bit respect from girls. The new alpha bitch (Thats also the title of a book by the way) is the new 24 hour activated weapon and men are looking exactly into this 24 hour activated alpha bitch mode weapon, called "modern" female. Men just are living these days without any reason. Men lost their goal of life. Men have mostly not a lot money these days or no money at all. Men are living at their mothers house at age 28 because men do not have a good chance anymore to find a job, because females take away more and more jobs and sections that actually should be full of guys because in the 90s and 80s shops used guys everywhere, but these days you just see cute sexy looking girls in the shops working. Thats not just in my country like that. Go to england, go to america, go to asia or wherever you are, girls are in the office, instead of guys and thats also because the boss rather will choose a hot girl, instead a guy, thats just happy to make some money, so he can hang around with friends and drink some beer in clubs on weekends. The boss will rather give jobs to hot beautiful girls. Its not just a made up idea. Just think about the fact that you, as a men, also would rather have a hot blonde next to you all day in the office, instead of a guy. Its also a problem that modern females are extremly bold and devilish, they are, just compare the the females you see in 80s and 70s movies and compare them with the modern females of today. The guys didn´t changed. The guys still are looking for the "big thing" in life, still looking for knowledge, fun and extreme situations. But the females just changed in a very negative way because all kind of different persons changed the way we see and understand females. Scientists, doctors and all kind of people started around the end of the 90s to talk 24 hours about the "new" facts why females are so much better! And at the same time doctors and scientists talked about guys like guys just are a bunch of perverts with sick fantasies about rape, violence and criminal activity! The "new" men was born soon! The men of media! All hate of this world he received. We do not need anymore primitive stupid stone-age men in our modern society! - was the new subliminal message everywhere and this still is going on today in every magazine, book, tv show, tv movie, tv series and and and! Poor men of today! Also if again a child got killed or molested, of course, a guy was the sick pervert! Thats again some brilliant concept to project even more the picture of a sick pervert primitive dangerous bad criminal beast on the - official - picture of men. Guys are totally bullshit. Thats the new subliminal message everywhere. Females are the new alphas + bosses. Thats also the new subliminal message. Girls can to everything better is the new message. Girls are better thinkers, better lovers, better people, better cowboys, better men, better boys, better bosses, better doctors, they are better in everything is the new message everywhere. Also science said years ago that men has more brain because its bigger. Now science says females have more brain because their brains have more nerve-cells. And science says the both sides of the brain are better connected, higher emotional intelligence is the result and stronger depper intelligence. But why everything that exists got designed and invented by men if females are so much better? Mathematics, if I read books about mathematics, not one female is there with mathematical theories. Or astronomy, or the industry, or synthesizers (did girls invented and constructed them? No.), or technology itself, not one girl has anything done or created on this planet. Females just put pervert clothes on to sex up guys and what guys get back? The official message that guys just want sex! But what do females expect if you see all day on every channel just naked or half naked girls doing things that really are just making guys explode in their pants? What do you all expect? That guys will watch away? No, guys want sex and they get these days not that easy anymore sex like they used to get in the 90s, 80s, 70s, 60s, 50s, 40s and so on. Because the hole situation is now against men. And females think bad about men because everyone on media is against men. So just the few guys that are very good looking, have very much friends in higher positions, have a very important job, a lot of money, drive a nice car and have around age 25 already their own house - such guys will make it and girls just are looking for such guys these days. And these days girls are looking more for such guys like in the 90s or 80s or 70s. So these days men are just a bunch of loosers for the media. There is a female movement. But there is no male movement. Why? We need one. And we guys need to talk about this stuff. To stay silent will be not the solution. 5,p Did anyone else start reading this in their mind with a Borat-type voice? hehehe Freudian slip?: Because the hole situation is now against men. Currently working on: Bach: Invention No. 1 Joplin: Maple Leaf Rag Mendelssohn: Tarantella Op.102 no.3 Mendelssohn: Venetian Boat Song Op. 19 no. 6 (both from 'Songs Without Words') |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21102346 United States02/23/2013 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35009917 United States02/23/2013 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For the women haters out there, here are some typical male characteristics women have to out up with: * Sex hounds, only think about sex * Slobs * Smelly * Addicted to sports * cheaters * love to hunt/fish * low emotional IQ * need a mommy * good with tools * Good drivers * Hairy |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23796874 United States02/23/2013 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, all I see is your fixation on the young hot chicks getting a job over you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33704894 But their are plenty of us older women with kids to support that have been left by their husbands and have no choice but to work. You think I love working my ass off when I could be home with my kids? Wow. The part you left out of the diatribe above is the part where men have lost their sense of responsibility and loyalty to the families they have created. But you'd rather play the victim card, so good luck with that. Now, I've got to get to work so I can pay the rent. I totally agree with you. I stayed at home taking care of kids etc until the "man" aka husband decided drugs and alcohol were more important. Did I crawl in a hole and let my kids go hungry because society said that I should stay home and clean house? No. There are some valid points that OP made, but it was generalizing. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35009917 United States02/23/2013 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if women were still housewives standing in the kitchen and ironing your clothes, we would be robbed of many amazing doctors, scientists, philosophers, writers and artists. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35009917 However, the field of comedy is still safe from being robbed by women. No it isn't. Women are funny and smart, too. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1324238 United States02/23/2013 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So OPie, you create a thread to malign all women because you feel women have maligned men (I read all of your posts here). Do you have a logical solution to the problems in society that you see? Or, do you feel blaming women and shaming them and reversing every negative ism that you feel women have applied unto men will correct the imbalance? I am asking for critical thinking from you. If men unanimously agree that they indeed *run* the world (which they do, this is still a hostile place for women) then how have we women usurped your influence? Are you angry that the world is becoming more and more civilized, and as a result of that, women are getting more rights on par with those of men? That would be a valid point, because we see that happening globally. Even women in Afghanistan and Saudi are fighting for their rights now. The pendulum swings OP, and balance will come one day. But I simply do not see this evil man hating world that you do. It simply does not exist. Men make more money, have more rights, can get hired for more jobs with less experience making decent money, are seen as full persons and don't have the weight of arbitrary social and cultural expectations hanging over their heads like women do. Of course, I'm not going to sop ass like Daisy and other self-hating females, here, so go on and begin the tirades about how I am a femnazi and I'm teh evil, Hitler with a cootie cat, and blah blah blah. The world will be a better place when people actually realize that we all have to share this place and we only have one place to call home. No one is greater than another. We are all worthy of respect and positive self-identity. I can't get how people can't acknowledge that...I mean we all want to be loved and respected. It's not just for men. But, the same folks clearly desiring that as translated from the angst filled rants I have read here (sheesh) can't seem to get that the opposite sex wants the same thing. Love and respect. But I see PUA bullshit peddled on every thread like this calling for treating women like shit to "make" her want you...and I will do a PSA and tell you boys something right now, the only women that will abide by that are broken women, so you are now perpetuating the problem. What you put out comes back to you, and what you do is you. |
