### Elisa Lam - the elevator - video - discussion - thread ! ### | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35061223 United States 02/24/2013 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
arkadiy User ID: 35146179 Russia 02/25/2013 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So i checked video in Avidemux and not found any subliminal things. But some gluing. 00:14.929 frame 224- frame 225 100% glued Important! Frame 224 00:14.900 timelapse,surveillense cam supposed to be at 11:18.. Elevator works well, door actually starts to close, than montage, frame 225 seems to be a 11:77.. on surveillanse cam timer. Door opens, end of montage. 02:22.895 frames 2144-2145 maybe glued 02:44.956 frames 2474-2475 maybe glued Surveillense cam timer stops 3 times in video, it is inserted fake duplicated frames at: 02:54:553 (frame 2620) - 02:55.219 (frame 2629) fake 9 frames, half second, enough for somebody to bypass door 02:55.886 f2639 - 02:56.686 f2651 fake 11 frames, enough for somebody to bypass door 02:57.019 f2656 - 02:57.952 f2670 same situation Then door starts to close, no fake frames. So if 3 guys bypass door, it was quick march at 2-4 meters persec |
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phoenixe (OP) User ID: 34782429 Germany 02/25/2013 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So i checked video in Avidemux and not found any subliminal things. But some gluing. Quoting: arkadiy 00:14.929 frame 224- frame 225 100% glued Important! Frame 224 00:14.900 timelapse,surveillense cam supposed to be at 11:18.. Elevator works well, door actually starts to close, than montage, frame 225 seems to be a 11:77.. on surveillanse cam timer. Door opens, end of montage. 02:22.895 frames 2144-2145 maybe glued 02:44.956 frames 2474-2475 maybe glued Surveillense cam timer stops 3 times in video, it is inserted fake duplicated frames at: 02:54:553 (frame 2620) - 02:55.219 (frame 2629) fake 9 frames, half second, enough for somebody to bypass door 02:55.886 f2639 - 02:56.686 f2651 fake 11 frames, enough for somebody to bypass door 02:57.019 f2656 - 02:57.952 f2670 same situation Then door starts to close, no fake frames. So if 3 guys bypass door, it was quick march at 2-4 meters persec wow, thank you for analyzing it ! so 3 somebodys may have entered in that elevator according to the fake frames. would explain the shadows people see in that video? btw, shadows: as i can´t watch the vid, can you watch out for shadows on the floor? from the girl or someone else? do they behave naturally? |
phoenixe (OP) User ID: 34782429 Germany 02/25/2013 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Arkadiy, is there any chance you can get information about time/date out of this video? for sure, it has a time/date stamp somewhere.. |
arkadiy User ID: 35146179 Russia 02/25/2013 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So i checked video in Avidemux and not found any subliminal things. But some gluing. Quoting: arkadiy 00:14.929 frame 224- frame 225 100% glued Important! Frame 224 00:14.900 timelapse,surveillense cam supposed to be at 11:18.. Elevator works well, door actually starts to close, than montage, frame 225 seems to be a 11:77.. on surveillanse cam timer. Door opens, end of montage. 02:22.895 frames 2144-2145 maybe glued 02:44.956 frames 2474-2475 maybe glued Surveillense cam timer stops 3 times in video, it is inserted fake duplicated frames at: 02:54:553 (frame 2620) - 02:55.219 (frame 2629) fake 9 frames, half second, enough for somebody to bypass door 02:55.886 f2639 - 02:56.686 f2651 fake 11 frames, enough for somebody to bypass door 02:57.019 f2656 - 02:57.952 f2670 same situation Then door starts to close, no fake frames. So if 3 guys bypass door, it was quick march at 2-4 meters persec wow, thank you for analyzing it ! so 3 somebodys may have entered in that elevator according to the fake frames. would explain the shadows people see in that video? btw, shadows: as i can´t watch the vid, can you watch out for shadows on the floor? from the girl or someone else? do they behave naturally? Too bad quality of video to discuss shadows. I believe that quality is special for public not to notice surveillence cam timer magic. BTW, no subliminals, but it has actually very creepy frames, where girls face looks like a wax mask, with no eyes, only black holes. But all strange gesturing part doesnt seems to be edit someway. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35141854 Greece 02/25/2013 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
arkadiy User ID: 35146179 Russia 02/25/2013 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Arkadiy, Quoting: phoenixe is there any chance you can get information about time/date out of this video? for sure, it has a time/date stamp somewhere.. Yes, in left corner is name of the cam, date, time hour:minute:sec:milisec Seems to be AXIS cam, but I need screen from such cam in good quality, to compare fonts. |
DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978 User ID: 33296170 United States 02/25/2013 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On the long version. Towards the end theelevator door opens and closes. On the last opening at 3:40 what looked like dark windows oppisite the door is now orange? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35061223 N E one else notice this or have an answer? I've noticed this too.Someone said wall,but to me it looks like the same windows with somthing orange behind them.idk |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18308887 United Kingdom 02/25/2013 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then lets blow your mind some more. Dark Water, 2002, Japan; watch?v=KlkL2zpb-Q0 51 minute mark: elevator scene to roof with girl near water tank on roof 52 min, 38 sec, inside elevator 1 hour, 17 min, another elevator scene Story is about a dead girl in the hotel water tank. |
phoenixe (OP) User ID: 34782429 Germany 02/25/2013 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On the long version. Towards the end theelevator door opens and closes. On the last opening at 3:40 what looked like dark windows oppisite the door is now orange? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35061223 N E one else notice this or have an answer? I've noticed this too.Someone said wall,but to me it looks like the same windows with somthing orange behind them.idk different floor / window at the same place / someone closed the curtain? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25788477 United States 02/25/2013 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like she could have been either getting away from so eons or the elevator wasn't working she called for help on the call button, and the elevator guy in charge was the one who harmed her, maybe he said he couldn't get it to work and that's who she was talking to. |
KITKAT123 User ID: 33080099 United States 02/25/2013 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to chelseadamali.wordpress.com] Once again, no substances, no trauma. I do not see that she was killed ahead of time, before hitting the water. I do see that she was coerced in. Whether that be by someone “ALIVE” or someone from the other side, the coercer was playing on the same team as what she was running from. NOW… interestingly enough, here is something to consider. I see something stuck NOT IN HER THROAT, but it’s in her windpipe, it’s a piece of paper or something similar that she stuffed in her mouth before going in, or was put there, but I believe while possibly gasping for air, sucked it all the way down. It’s lodged in her windpipe, past her epiglottis, and if unfolded or uncrumpled, appears to have something written on it. If this has pertinent information on the case, then great. I’m not saying it does. Much of her final hours were spent doing off the wall things that will not make sense to many of us anyway. That could be just one of those things. KITKAT123 |
DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978 User ID: 33296170 United States 02/25/2013 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On the long version. Towards the end theelevator door opens and closes. On the last opening at 3:40 what looked like dark windows oppisite the door is now orange? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35061223 N E one else notice this or have an answer? I've noticed this too.Someone said wall,but to me it looks like the same windows with somthing orange behind them.idk different floor / window at the same place / someone closed the curtain? its on outside because you can see that crossbar that goes east and west on window structure |
phoenixe (OP) User ID: 34782429 Germany 02/25/2013 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | another question.. does anyone know, where this video originated? where it was first shown? who gave it to media/internet for us to watch? @arkadaiy: do you think this is in fact a real surveillence cam video? could someone just tape their own homecam at places a surveillence cam would be and alter it afterwards? my thought: some (asian)tourists were visiting there, stayed in the hotel and thought it might be funny to take a dark-water-style video for fun&giggles. back at home, they cut it. meaning: this video was filmed in the Celia hotel, but another time, date and shows another person. to the one who talked about a grey hoodied person at the panels - does it look like this one ? [link to sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5538756 Canada 02/25/2013 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like she could have been either getting away from so eons or the elevator wasn't working she called for help on the call button, and the elevator guy in charge was the one who harmed her, maybe he said he couldn't get it to work and that's who she was talking to. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25788477 That sounds plausible. And it's guaranteed the cops spoke with whoever is responsible for security and the elevators in that building. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25788477 United States 02/25/2013 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | another question.. Quoting: phoenixe does anyone know, where this video originated? where it was first shown? who gave it to media/internet for us to watch? @arkadaiy: do you think this is in fact a real surveillence cam video? could someone just tape their own homecam at places a surveillence cam would be and alter it afterwards? my thought: some (asian)tourists were visiting there, stayed in the hotel and thought it might be funny to take a dark-water-style video for fun&giggles. back at home, they cut it. meaning: this video was filmed in the Celia hotel, but another time, date and shows another person. to the one who talked about a grey hoodied person at the panels - does it look like this one ? [link to sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net] Holy crap! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34760435 United States 02/25/2013 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This poor girl is obviously on some sort of drug or she may have been drinking. Her movements show that to be evident. Someone could have been following her or she could be hallucinating. Some creep sees a young woman who is obviously inebriated and follows her in order to take advantage of her. The thing with the elevator is that there is usually a button that says "door open". She could have pressed that button to keep the door from closing. He behavior is strange. If there is someone there then why leave the elevatorand look for him? Why does she get out and make all the strange movements. At first it seems she does not see anyone there and then she acts like she is talking to someone. Surely someone at the hotel could explain how the elevator works or if it was not working properly. I do not see how someone could control it remotely in such a quick manner so I would think it was her that hit the door open button. I do not care what the remote viewer says. She is obviously inebriated or on some sort of drug. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25788477 United States 02/25/2013 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This poor girl is obviously on some sort of drug or she may have been drinking. Her movements show that to be evident. Someone could have been following her or she could be hallucinating. Some creep sees a young woman who is obviously inebriated and follows her in order to take advantage of her. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34760435 The thing with the elevator is that there is usually a button that says "door open". She could have pressed that button to keep the door from closing. He behavior is strange. If there is someone there then why leave the elevatorand look for him? Why does she get out and make all the strange movements. At first it seems she does not see anyone there and then she acts like she is talking to someone. Surely someone at the hotel could explain how the elevator works or if it was not working properly. I do not see how someone could control it remotely in such a quick manner so I would think it was her that hit the door open button. I do not care what the remote viewer says. She is obviously inebriated or on some sort of drug. Or maybe there was someone there we just can't see it? You can clearly see something black that is in the video inside the elevator by the control panels, just look, it looks like it is wearing a hood, it's a figure. |
DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978 User ID: 33296170 United States 02/25/2013 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This poor girl is obviously on some sort of drug or she may have been drinking. Her movements show that to be evident. Someone could have been following her or she could be hallucinating. Some creep sees a young woman who is obviously inebriated and follows her in order to take advantage of her. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34760435 The thing with the elevator is that there is usually a button that says "door open". She could have pressed that button to keep the door from closing. He behavior is strange. If there is someone there then why leave the elevatorand look for him? Why does she get out and make all the strange movements. At first it seems she does not see anyone there and then she acts like she is talking to someone. Surely someone at the hotel could explain how the elevator works or if it was not working properly. I do not see how someone could control it remotely in such a quick manner so I would think it was her that hit the door open button. I do not care what the remote viewer says. She is obviously inebriated or on some sort of drug. I dont see drunk or drugs. Her movements would be slower and not as sharp as they are...however i do see anxious and playful almost...could be the damn spirits..that shits real |
DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978 User ID: 33296170 United States 02/25/2013 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This poor girl is obviously on some sort of drug or she may have been drinking. Her movements show that to be evident. Someone could have been following her or she could be hallucinating. Some creep sees a young woman who is obviously inebriated and follows her in order to take advantage of her. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34760435 The thing with the elevator is that there is usually a button that says "door open". She could have pressed that button to keep the door from closing. He behavior is strange. If there is someone there then why leave the elevatorand look for him? Why does she get out and make all the strange movements. At first it seems she does not see anyone there and then she acts like she is talking to someone. Surely someone at the hotel could explain how the elevator works or if it was not working properly. I do not see how someone could control it remotely in such a quick manner so I would think it was her that hit the door open button. I do not care what the remote viewer says. She is obviously inebriated or on some sort of drug. Or maybe there was someone there we just can't see it? You can clearly see something black that is in the video inside the elevator by the control panels, just look, it looks like it is wearing a hood, it's a figure. i said on OP first thread at start of it that i thought i saw shit...but is poor cam but idk if would have mass spots where pixel is gone like I see in that video |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25788477 United States 02/25/2013 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This poor girl is obviously on some sort of drug or she may have been drinking. Her movements show that to be evident. Someone could have been following her or she could be hallucinating. Some creep sees a young woman who is obviously inebriated and follows her in order to take advantage of her. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34760435 The thing with the elevator is that there is usually a button that says "door open". She could have pressed that button to keep the door from closing. He behavior is strange. If there is someone there then why leave the elevatorand look for him? Why does she get out and make all the strange movements. At first it seems she does not see anyone there and then she acts like she is talking to someone. Surely someone at the hotel could explain how the elevator works or if it was not working properly. I do not see how someone could control it remotely in such a quick manner so I would think it was her that hit the door open button. I do not care what the remote viewer says. She is obviously inebriated or on some sort of drug. I dont see drunk or drugs. Her movements would be slower and not as sharp as they are...however i do see anxious and playful almost...could be the damn spirits..that shits real Yes, that's what it looks like to me too, exactly., but the black figure by the panel look at that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18308887 United Kingdom 02/25/2013 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So i checked video in Avidemux and not found any subliminal things. But some gluing. Quoting: arkadiy 00:14.929 frame 224- frame 225 100% glued Important! Frame 224 00:14.900 timelapse,surveillense cam supposed to be at 11:18.. Elevator works well, door actually starts to close, than montage, frame 225 seems to be a 11:77.. on surveillanse cam timer. Door opens, end of montage. 02:22.895 frames 2144-2145 maybe glued 02:44.956 frames 2474-2475 maybe glued Surveillense cam timer stops 3 times in video, it is inserted fake duplicated frames at: 02:54:553 (frame 2620) - 02:55.219 (frame 2629) fake 9 frames, half second, enough for somebody to bypass door 02:55.886 f2639 - 02:56.686 f2651 fake 11 frames, enough for somebody to bypass door 02:57.019 f2656 - 02:57.952 f2670 same situation Then door starts to close, no fake frames. So if 3 guys bypass door, it was quick march at 2-4 meters persec wow, thank you for analyzing it ! so 3 somebodys may have entered in that elevator according to the fake frames. would explain the shadows people see in that video? btw, shadows: as i can´t watch the vid, can you watch out for shadows on the floor? from the girl or someone else? do they behave naturally? Too bad quality of video to discuss shadows. I believe that quality is special for public not to notice surveillence cam timer magic. BTW, no subliminals, but it has actually very creepy frames, where girls face looks like a wax mask, with no eyes, only black holes. But all strange gesturing part doesnt seems to be edit someway. Do you believe she was already dead at this point? The face, the black holes for eyes etc Many are saying she was 'zombie' before she was put into the water tank. |
arkadiy User ID: 35146179 Russia 02/25/2013 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | another question.. does anyone know, where this video originated? where it was first shown? who gave it to media/internet for us to watch? @arkadaiy: do you think this is in fact a real surveillence cam video? could someone just tape their own homecam at places a surveillence cam would be and alter it afterwards? my thought: some (asian)tourists were visiting there, stayed in the hotel and thought it might be funny to take a dark-water-style video for fun&giggles. back at home, they cut it. meaning: this video was filmed in the Celia hotel, but another time, date and shows another person. Its is a real surveillance cam because of matrix "adaptation" effect. Notice, when its less light, camera adaptates to it, thats for security reason. Actually you need a video registrator, and battery, for filming that type of stuff, and of course, a ledder. Besides, Chinese likes to play with elevator: [link to www.youtube.com] |
arkadiy User ID: 35146179 Russia 02/25/2013 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
phoenixe (OP) User ID: 34782429 Germany 02/25/2013 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Or maybe there was someone there we just can't see it? You can clearly see something black that is in the video inside the elevator by the control panels, just look, it looks like it is wearing a hood, it's a figure. ..which would lead back to the theory about the "invisible man" we made and found hints to in my other thread. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25788477 United States 02/25/2013 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok , looked at it again, it looks like she was playing the game hide and seek, when she goes back in the ekevator her hands go up like, what did I just see? Then when she steps out again she moves her hands through something like , are you real? Then you can see her count on her fingers , like , one, two, three, ready or not here I come. |