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Message Subject EMP survival in case of war, extreme CME
Poster Handle Anonymous Coward
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So, would you suggest using tin foil at all?... Or is there
still a chance it could melt even in a galvanized steel can?... also should plastic even be used to alternate wrap?
plastic, foil, plastic, foil, Etc.

How about wrapping it in foil put in a metal cookie tin and then a galvanized steel can?

I appreciate all the advice, I'm trying to find someway to protect a diabetic testing meter and most likely strips
for it, as I think there's some kind of metal that may be used by the meter, have to take one apart more in detail...


Thanks Much! hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35094424


EMP can change chemical composition, so this is important. More on that later.

Electronics can be wrapped once or multiple times in foil and put in plastic bag, or simply put into anti ESD (metalized) protective bag. It works as a protection and can easily be done. This way you will be sure, that you've done everything to protect this thing. Layering will not provide significantly better protection than wrapping multiple times into thick layer of foil without plastic bag between layers. It's not worth the effort. Thick wrapping can dissipate thermal energy much better and thus works better. It becomes something in between sold thick metal, which is the best, and a foil.
Plastic bag or several of them after that is a must. This is a chemically sensitive device.
For small critical devices it's possible to make custom, improved in many ways box.

First of all there is no ultimate protection. Weapons are improved all the time. If it will get hit by extreme some new type EMP, you will be close to ground zero (SREMP), or radiation protection won't be adequate (SGEMP), foil can melt inside and the same can happen with every microchip in the device. The question should be how human being can survive to see it happening, which is much more complicated task. EMP protection in this case is deeper underground to protect against radiation, thicker walls, additional internal thick high permeability metal box. Resources needed for protection grow exponentially from some point.

Galvanized steel trash can should offer adequate protect against known types of EMP and mentioned standard is also based on known types of EMP. It should provide good protection. The best protection is always in the middle of box. Only one part, contact between lid and can may be improved with conductive gasket. More layers of protection make better overall protection. Big can, smaller boxes and foil is a good improved protection.

I'm not using foil at all, the box should handle EMP, but there are no critical things for survival, so situation is different. Anti ESD bags are used for some spare parts that are sensitive or have open contacts. Usually these parts come with such bags, ant it's better to keep them there or use foil. When moving with a backpack or unpacking foil, it makes lots of sound and it's a big disadvantage. For backpack or portable anti EMP box I'm using metal box with lining made from RF absorbing material and anti ESD sponge that keeps things tight so that they do not break and do not cause sounds.
 Quoting: EMPerror


Thank-You!... hf

I understand that in our day and age the weapons get stronger and there's no way to be 100% sure that what we do will work, but just doing it and hoping for the best is better than not doing anything and the worst happens and thinking I should have done something...

I looked up the Anti-ESD bags you mentioned and they are cheap enough, I may get some... would I use the foil after putting the items in the bag or before?

I really appreciate your patients in helping and answering my questions!...

peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35094424


This bag is usually used for the device directly. It is intended to protect contacts from sparking when you are taking it into your hands. It acts exactly as a thin foil and a bag on top of that, but bag material is slightly conductive (slightly conductive type should be considered) so it makes a difference. It prevents electrostatic charges from building up. The same goes for anti-ESD sponge, it has no metal layer, but is slightly conductive itself.
 Quoting: EMPerror


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