WARNING! ~ Costa Rica ~ Blue KACHINA is HERE daily 15:00 - 17:30 ~ Plus strange CAVE anomaly every evening!!

Don't be facetious!

This observation is taking place in the West, 11,000 feet above sea level and around 10% North of the equator!

The chances of seeing it from the UK is nil and as for all those other astronomers who may or may not see it how would they fancy waking up dead like many other astronomers have recently!

I'm sure you don't believe me on this point so check the net!

Daily update!

Yesterday proved good viewing with many screen captures with and without flares in the images!

Do check out my posting yesterday showing this flare notion in another perspective!

This morning we can see the cave illuminated again like so many times previously. I imaged two possible figures in the entrance yesterday morning so please be observant after the light extinguishes around 05:30!

[link to www.ovsicori.una.ac.cr]



Last Edited by Just the facts! on 03/06/2013 06:24 AM

I honestly think you're a troll seeing if you can get anyone to fall for this for shits and giggles.

Can you please explain why that is? If this were truly in space and visible near the Sun, anyone, anywhere on the planet who can see the Sun should also be able to see any objects visible near the Sun.

Anyone trying to explain this apparent contradiction with astronomy is just making stuff up in an attempt to validate a religious belief (in this case, Hopi mythology). This is really no different from those who refused to accept the the Earth is round and orbiting another body because their beliefs told them it was flat and at the centre of the Universe.

Last Edited by phoomp on 03/06/2013 08:12 AM

I also took many screenshots yesterday. Lens flares did, indeed, fade and brighten as the Sun had more and less cloud in front of it. As did the flare that you insist on believing to be a celestial body that is somehow visible in front of very thick cloud and moves in line with the other flares generated by the lens.

Tell you what, you explain to me why the Earth has a shadow in this SPACE image from Stereo Behind!!

[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]

You are being manipulated, but not by me!

All you're doing is throwing up misdirection. We're talking about the Turrialba imagery, not Stereo Behind. If you're willing to admit that object in space cannot appear in front of clouds and that the dot in the Turrialba images clearly appears in front of clouds while also holding a position along the moving flare line of the Sun, THEN we can talk about Stereo Behind.

I've already posted images yesterday that PROVES this object is real!

But just in case you missed it...

"In the following image the object can clearly be seen with flaring in such a way that it does not line up with the Sun centre as suggested!"

[link to i1354.photobucket.com]

It don't line up with the Suns centre?

Wrong!

[link to p-m-a.org]

:brainuseit:

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You're absolutely right. It is real ... a real flare. All you've done is provide a picture with more flares that the dot lines up with. Here's your image with a straight connecting all of the flares, including the dot, with the Sun.
[link to www.dropbox.com (secure)]

Of course, you keep on refusing to explain how an object in space can appear in front of a thick cloud.
[link to www.dropbox.com (secure)]

How lens flare works
[link to www.cambridgeincolour.com]

in search of multiple eyewitness accounts from said location, with sworn under oath testimony that they saw this with their own eyes and not through a camera lens. then i might believe it.

until then its complete bs to get attention by marshall masters (jack ass) and crew, and OP too.

To answer your questions in reverse order...

Here is an image with the object totally obscured.
[link to i1354.photobucket.com]

Here's is another a few minutes later with the object just visible.
[link to i1354.photobucket.com]


Finally, if you draw a line through the object and it's own flare (as circled) then it would not point back to the sun centre!
[link to i1354.photobucket.com]

there's no point in trying to inform the OP of his gross ignorance and negligence. it's been tried ad nauseum, his foolishness grinds on like clockwork.

shame on him and the mods who pin this obvious tripe.

This, "Ad Hominem"

As pointed out several times in this thread:
If the sun is totally or partially obscured by clouds there is no respectively only a dim flare.



The sun in this picture is elongated by atmospheric diffraction into a slightly egg shaped form.

The center of the sun is the point where the light rays/spikes emanate from.
If you draw a line through this rays you get the center of the sun.
And as proven here [link to p-m-a.org] and here [link to www.dropbox.com (secure)] the flares, including your orb, points direct to the center of the sun.

:notargu:


It's not to educate the OP - all his/her threads show, that he/she renitent refuses to learn something - it's to prevent other readers to fall for OPs bullshit.


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Last Edited by Hydra on 03/07/2013 04:04 AM

Nothing like making it up as you go along, hey!

OK, here's an image of the sun around the right time but with no sign of any flares?

[link to i1354.photobucket.com]

Of course the fact that the sun is now slightly distorted or maybe covered by a bit of cloud works to explain why there is none, doesn't it!!

Don't know whether to laugh or cry!

Troll on!

No sign of any flares?

Ooops: [link to p-m-a.org]

And as usual in line withe the suns center.


How much longer will you present your funny screenshots?

Still didn't get it?
If it's only one time in front of thick clouds (as proved here numerous times) it's not a celestial body.

:notargu:

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Wow! That's so obviously a flare!! Just look how bright it is, like this one... [link to i1354.photobucket.com]

Oh no! It's not, is it? Hey, maybe it's behind the clouds?

Look, if this is a LENSE FLARE then you have nothing to worry about, do you!



Last Edited by Just the facts! on 03/07/2013 06:32 AM

:brainuseit:

And:

:notargu:

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In your second image, the cloud is thicker, yet you claim the dot is somehow shining through the thicker cloud but is blocked by the thinner cloud?

How do you explain THIS image, where the dot is bright, despite very thick cloud? You continue to refuse to address this. I suspect that's because it contradicts your beliefs to strongly.
[link to www.dropbox.com (secure)]

The goal in not to convince the OP. He is clearly too invested in his belief in Hopi mythology to be able to accept reality.

The goal is to ensure nobody else buys into the OP's fiction.

In that image, there is no thin cloud in front of the Sun, allowing it to shine bright and product strong lens flares.



In this image, the lens flares are dim because the Sun is being dimmed by thin cloud in front of it.

How lens flares work
[link to www.cambridgeincolour.com]

Last Edited by phoomp on 03/07/2013 08:24 AM

The trolls are getting very concerned now that maybe you're starting to believe what I am telling you and that they may loosing their grip on what they want you to believe!

After all, they have controlled you for many years!

They say that this object is merely a flare, a reflection within the camera itself which creates the illusion of a blue object appearing in the sky!

They say it can't be real because it always appears on top of the clouds and never behind although there are available images that prove otherwise!

So, ask yourself this! If this was a flare could it change position over time? Could it change its size over time? Could it have an effect on the activity within the volcano?

Take a look at these two images. Both taken from the same source e.g. the webcam, which of course for our purposes is a fixed point!

The first image is from Thursday February 21st 2013 at 15:08

[link to i1354.photobucket.com]

The next image is from twelve days later Tuesday March 5th 2013 around the same time 15:23.

[link to i1354.photobucket.com]

Now, carefully compare the two! In the latter image the object is smaller, slightly lower in the sky and shifted to the right!

To me this strongly indicates that this object is indeed real and it is moving away from us at a fast rate.

So! If this is the BLUE KATCHINA of HOPI legend then you can bet the DESTROYER won't be far behind it!

Perhaps it may look like this?

[link to i1354.photobucket.com]



Last Edited by Just the facts! on 03/07/2013 09:15 AM

That's a very easy answer. Lens flares move as the sun move. From 3pm to 5pm, the lens flares clearly move.
[link to www.dropbox.com (secure)]



That's because in the 15 minutes between 15:08 and 15:23, the Sun actually moves quite a bit, down and to the right (even though you're comparing across different days).
Here are 2 images from THE SAME DAY where the flare moves down and to the right between 4:09 and 4:23.
[link to www.dropbox.com (secure)]
[link to www.dropbox.com (secure)]

And, again, the time lapse from 4:30 to 5:30 shows quite a bit of movement.
[link to www.dropbox.com (secure)]

Last Edited by phoomp on 03/07/2013 10:56 AM

They're useful! Anyone got a key?

The only troll in this thread is you.



^^^^^^ This ^^^^^^



Nice - a photo from another thrad, where you made a fool of yourself:
Thread: ~ TWO objects look on a DIRECT collision course on Stereo Ahead HI1 right NOW!! ~ This LOOKS the real deal folks!!

Explained to you here:
Thread: ~ TWO objects look on a DIRECT collision course on Stereo Ahead HI1 right NOW!! ~ This LOOKS the real deal folks!!
and here:
Thread: ~ TWO objects look on a DIRECT collision course on Stereo Ahead HI1 right NOW!! ~ This LOOKS the real deal folks!! (Page 3)



Can you see the sun through thick clouds? - No!
Can you see planets or stars through thick clouds? - No!

What makes you think, that you can see a smaller and much less bright object through thick clouds?

Conclusion: it's in front of the clouds.

:brainuseit:

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Edit
Updated the non working links.

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Last Edited by Hydra on 03/07/2013 11:00 AM

Ah, a tag team!

What's up, bored today?



Last Edited by Just the facts! on 03/07/2013 10:53 AM

Apologies. Updated with open links

[link to www.dropbox.com (secure)]
[link to www.dropbox.com (secure)]