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"The Senate Judiciary Committee’s hearing on Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s hearing on the Assault Weapons Ban of 2013 opened solemnly, before a packed hearing room, many of the observers gun-violence victims and law-enforcement personnel from gun-tragedy locations.

Feinstein, flanked by a photo of the 26 Newtown victims, opened with a pointed reference to Newtown and the growing number of mass-casualty events over the past decade.

While Feinstein’s tone was dispassionate, her words about the urgent need for an assault weapons ban were certainly emphatic: “It is clear we need a national solution,” she said. She showed a SlideFire Solutions Inc. promotional video of their product, which turns a semiautomatic rifle into a near-machine gun. And she stressed that a ban on high-capacity magazines was a “crucial” part of the bill
."

Later in the piece:

"The second Newtown witness. Dr. William Begg, EMS Medical Director at Danbury Hospital and a Newtown resident, said he was at the hearing for one reason: My goal is to tell you that banning assault weapons will make a real difference.”

“What galls me,” Dr. Begg said, is when people say we should fix mental health before we ban weapons. “What programs get cut first? Mental health!” Begg said.

His voice hoarse with emotion, Begg said, that when you say assault weapons account for a small number of gun deaths, “Don’t tell that to the citizens of Newtown!” It produced a burst of applause.

To the families of those who lost loved ones,” he said, his voice breaking, “on behalf of the ER, we tried our best.”And to you lawmakers … please, make the right decision on the behalf of Newtown and Connecticut, and the United States.”"


I only know of one victim that was transported to Danbury Hospital.


From the Connecticut Post:


"The ambulance is racing down Interstate 84 to Danbury Hospital. The crew administers trauma care to make sure the child is breathing and she has circulation. Dahlmeyer is on her feet, shifting around and administering treatment.

They pull into the hospital and back up to the doors. Police and security are everywhere, waiting. The little girl's body is placed on a backboard and then over to the hospital's stretcher. The paramedic gives the hospital team a quick report.

Inside, the hallway is lined with people, many of them sobbing.

Nurses, technicians, doctors, X-ray, I'm not sure who they all are but the whole hallway is filled.

The hospital has mobilized about 80 medical personnel, enough to staff four emergency rooms and six operating rooms.

Are there more victims? There must be more?

The ambulance heads back to Newtown. Dahlmeyer rides in the back with the paramedic. They don't talk about what's gone on. She calls Walgreens, where she works, to say she won't make it in for her noon shift.

The little girl she and her crew rushed to the hospital is pronounced dead."
Read more: [link to www.newstimes.com]

Dr. Begg is shamelessly shilling for a political agenda.
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grrrrr no "Sandy Hook" in the title and your thread is lost... :D

but thanks for the links...

very interesting, i still discovering witnesses...
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Bullshit upon bullshit.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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Some interesting information about Dr. Begg from a 2010 News-Times article:


"Begg -- who trained at the pediatric trauma unit of Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore -- said the team Danbury Hospital assembles to treat a child in the first hour of emergency care is equal to that offered at any children's hospital.

Danbury Hospital has a dedicated pediatric trauma room in the Emergency Department, Begg said. The doctors and nurses who are called in to treat trauma cases all have pediatric trauma training.

"We have a complete team,'' Begg said. "We are as expert as any facility.''


Read more: [link to www.newstimes.com]
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Did Dr Begg become a pediatrician because he REALLY likes little kids?
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Some interesting information about Dr. Begg from a 2010 News-Times article:


"Begg -- who trained at the pediatric trauma unit of Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore -- said the team Danbury Hospital assembles to treat a child in the first hour of emergency care is equal to that offered at any children's hospital.

Danbury Hospital has a dedicated pediatric trauma room in the Emergency Department, Begg said. The doctors and nurses who are called in to treat trauma cases all have pediatric trauma training.

"We have a complete team,'' Begg said. "We are as expert as any facility.''


Read more: [link to www.newstimes.com]
 Quoting: Gladio


for sure, like for Carver, "they" need people in place.. to play the tragedy...
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I'm watching Dr. Begg's testimony on c-span right now. Starts around the 2hr 9 min mark of this video:

[link to www.c-span.org]

He mentions that both his parents were Ct. State Representatives, for what it's worth.
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I'm watching Dr. Begg's testimony on c-span right now. Starts around the 2hr 9 min mark of this video:

[link to www.c-span.org]

He mentions that both his parents were Ct. State Representatives, for what it's worth.
 Quoting: Gladio


In the testimony, at the 2:14:50 mark, Begg actually says "to the families whose loved ones actually made it to the ER, we all tried our best..."

Interesting how that's left out of the quote from the original post:

To the families of those who lost loved ones,” he said, his voice breaking, “on behalf of the ER, we tried our best.”And to you lawmakers … please, make the right decision on the behalf of Newtown and Connecticut, and the United States.”"
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I would rather have a Newtown incident every single day than give up one iota of my right to keep and bear arms.
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I would rather have a Newtown incident every single day than give up one iota of my right to keep and bear arms.
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And if you disagree with me, I kindly ask you to find a new country and depart the United States of America.
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I would rather have a Newtown incident every single day than give up one iota of my right to keep and bear arms.
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You mean a false flag/hoax/psyop?
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Seems to me they just need to lift the ban on common sense.
Problem solved.
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I wonder if anyone has pointed out that had these laws been in place before "Sandy Hook", it wouldn't have made a difference.

Assault rifles were already banned in Connecticut.
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But not one word about the illegal weapons in the hands of the thug inner city gangs that are responsible for about 90% of the murders and shootings in the US.

Do you think any of theses lowlifes will comply and register or turn in their weapons ?
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Things like this irritate me immensely. It happened to them with an "assault weapon" so now they are bad for everybody.

They are the most commonly used competitive rifle in the this country. They are the most commonly used recreational rifle. And quickly, they are becoming a hot hunting firearm.

So lets ban AR-15's and all they're varients. It sounds bad, and cruel, but 20 kids with an "assault weapon" used in their death versus how many thousands each year that die from STOLEN WEAPONS.

Focus on the real problem here people.

And of all the people I know that shoot (100's, maybe thousands), only one owns a Slide Fire Stock. Guess what, they work, but they are cheesy as fuck and not nearly as accurate as one makes them out to be. Gimmicky. No different than the cranks from the 80's and 90's that make any Semi-Auto like a Gattling Gun. No one ever wanted to ban them though - because AR's had yet to explode in popularity.

That and the internet slowed the spread of information.
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“To the families of those who lost loved ones,” he said, his voice breaking, “on behalf of the ER, we tried our best.”

Bullshit.They left the other kids at the school on purpose,he didn't bring that up.
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'universal background checks'

is really a conspiracy for federal firearm registration and then confiscation
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“To the families of those who lost loved ones,” he said, his voice breaking, “on behalf of the ER, we tried our best.”

Bullshit.They left the other kids at the school on purpose,he didn't bring that up.
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You're right.
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Wth does that mean "on behalf of the ER"? As in emergency efforts? Is that a joke? A whopping 2-3 people were sent to hospitals, if that. Didn't have to try all that hard to save any lives, now did they? Nobody went into the school and attempted to save lives...except for...one person wheeling a stretcher up the road to the school that probably took half an hour just to get through all of the traffic. Sickening.
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Wth does that mean "on behalf of the ER"? As in emergency efforts? Is that a joke? A whopping 2-3 people were sent to hospitals, if that. Didn't have to try all that hard to save any lives, now did they? Nobody went into the school and attempted to save lives...except for...one person wheeling a stretcher up the road to the school that probably took half an hour just to get through all of the traffic. Sickening.
 Quoting: AnonymousGirl


I'm watching Dr. Begg's testimony on c-span right now. Starts around the 2hr 9 min mark of this video:

[link to www.c-span.org]

He mentions that both his parents were Ct. State Representatives, for what it's worth.
 Quoting: Gladio


In the testimony, at the 2:14:50 mark, Begg actually says "to the families whose loved ones actually made it to the ER, we all tried our best..."

Interesting how that's left out of the quote from the original post:

To the families of those who lost loved ones,” he said, his voice breaking, “on behalf of the ER, we tried our best.”And to you lawmakers … please, make the right decision on the behalf of Newtown and Connecticut, and the United States.”"
 Quoting: Gladio
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Wth does that mean "on behalf of the ER"? As in emergency efforts? Is that a joke? A whopping 2-3 people were sent to hospitals, if that. Didn't have to try all that hard to save any lives, now did they? Nobody went into the school and attempted to save lives...except for...one person wheeling a stretcher up the road to the school that probably took half an hour just to get through all of the traffic. Sickening.
 Quoting: AnonymousGirl


I'm watching Dr. Begg's testimony on c-span right now. Starts around the 2hr 9 min mark of this video:

[link to www.c-span.org]

He mentions that both his parents were Ct. State Representatives, for what it's worth.
 Quoting: Gladio


In the testimony, at the 2:14:50 mark, Begg actually says "to the families whose loved ones actually made it to the ER, we all tried our best..."

Interesting how that's left out of the quote from the original post:

To the families of those who lost loved ones,” he said, his voice breaking, “on behalf of the ER, we tried our best.”And to you lawmakers … please, make the right decision on the behalf of Newtown and Connecticut, and the United States.”"
 Quoting: Gladio

 Quoting: Gladio


Well well well. How interesting/telling that "actually made it to the ER" was left out.
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Wth does that mean "on behalf of the ER"? As in emergency efforts? Is that a joke? A whopping 2-3 people were sent to hospitals, if that. Didn't have to try all that hard to save any lives, now did they? Nobody went into the school and attempted to save lives...except for...one person wheeling a stretcher up the road to the school that probably took half an hour just to get through all of the traffic. Sickening.
 Quoting: AnonymousGirl


I'm watching Dr. Begg's testimony on c-span right now. Starts around the 2hr 9 min mark of this video:

[link to www.c-span.org]

He mentions that both his parents were Ct. State Representatives, for what it's worth.
 Quoting: Gladio


In the testimony, at the 2:14:50 mark, Begg actually says "to the families whose loved ones actually made it to the ER, we all tried our best..."

Interesting how that's left out of the quote from the original post:

To the families of those who lost loved ones,” he said, his voice breaking, “on behalf of the ER, we tried our best.”And to you lawmakers … please, make the right decision on the behalf of Newtown and Connecticut, and the United States.”"
 Quoting: Gladio

 Quoting: Gladio


Well well well. How interesting/telling that "actually made it to the ER" was left out.
 Quoting: AnonymousGirl


bump
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From
[link to blog.ctnews.com]

"The Senate Judiciary Committee’s hearing on Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s hearing on the Assault Weapons Ban of 2013 opened solemnly, before a packed hearing room, many of the observers gun-violence victims and law-enforcement personnel from gun-tragedy locations.

Feinstein, flanked by a photo of the 26 Newtown victims, opened with a pointed reference to Newtown and the growing number of mass-casualty events over the past decade.

While Feinstein’s tone was dispassionate, her words about the urgent need for an assault weapons ban were certainly emphatic: “It is clear we need a national solution,” she said. She showed a SlideFire Solutions Inc. promotional video of their product, which turns a semiautomatic rifle into a near-machine gun. And she stressed that a ban on high-capacity magazines was a “crucial” part of the bill
."

Later in the piece:

"The second Newtown witness. Dr. William Begg, EMS Medical Director at Danbury Hospital and a Newtown resident, said he was at the hearing for one reason: My goal is to tell you that banning assault weapons will make a real difference.”

“What galls me,” Dr. Begg said, is when people say we should fix mental health before we ban weapons. “What programs get cut first? Mental health!” Begg said.

His voice hoarse with emotion, Begg said, that when you say assault weapons account for a small number of gun deaths, “Don’t tell that to the citizens of Newtown!” It produced a burst of applause.

To the families of those who lost loved ones,” he said, his voice breaking, “on behalf of the ER, we tried our best.”And to you lawmakers … please, make the right decision on the behalf of Newtown and Connecticut, and the United States.”"


I only know of one victim that was transported to Danbury Hospital.


From the Connecticut Post:


"The ambulance is racing down Interstate 84 to Danbury Hospital. The crew administers trauma care to make sure the child is breathing and she has circulation. Dahlmeyer is on her feet, shifting around and administering treatment.

They pull into the hospital and back up to the doors. Police and security are everywhere, waiting. The little girl's body is placed on a backboard and then over to the hospital's stretcher. The paramedic gives the hospital team a quick report.

Inside, the hallway is lined with people, many of them sobbing.

Nurses, technicians, doctors, X-ray, I'm not sure who they all are but the whole hallway is filled.

The hospital has mobilized about 80 medical personnel, enough to staff four emergency rooms and six operating rooms.

Are there more victims? There must be more?

The ambulance heads back to Newtown. Dahlmeyer rides in the back with the paramedic. They don't talk about what's gone on. She calls Walgreens, where she works, to say she won't make it in for her noon shift.

The little girl she and her crew rushed to the hospital is pronounced dead."
Read more: [link to www.newstimes.com]

Dr. Begg is shamelessly shilling for a political agenda.
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Feinstein is right, a sawed off shotgun makes it an assault rifle.
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From the Hartford Courant:


"Dr. William Begg, who was on duty in the emergency room when victims of the Dec. 14 shooting arrived at Danbury Hospital, testified in favor of a ban on assault weapons."

Later in the same article:

"Begg, the doctor from Danbury Hospital, argued a few statistics of his own, his voice rising as he cited the increased risk of death for people in homes with guns. Next to the witness table as he spoke were giant posters of a hand reduced to blood and tissue from an assault weapon.

The young Newtown victims each took three to 11 bullets. "Most of the victims didn't actually come in," he said of the emergency room. "We had such horrific injuries to little bodies, that's what happened. They don't even make it to the hospital
.""
[link to www.courant.com]

How many victims went to the hospital? I only heard about one, cited earlier in this thread.

If anyone has information on any other victims taken to Danbury Hospital, please post evidence.
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No more rifles. Every corner is a stop sign.
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From the Hartford Courant:


"Dr. William Begg, who was on duty in the emergency room when victims of the Dec. 14 shooting arrived at Danbury Hospital, testified in favor of a ban on assault weapons."

Later in the same article:

"Begg, the doctor from Danbury Hospital, argued a few statistics of his own, his voice rising as he cited the increased risk of death for people in homes with guns. Next to the witness table as he spoke were giant posters of a hand reduced to blood and tissue from an assault weapon.

The young Newtown victims each took three to 11 bullets. "Most of the victims didn't actually come in," he said of the emergency room. "We had such horrific injuries to little bodies, that's what happened. They don't even make it to the hospital
.""
[link to www.courant.com]

How many victims went to the hospital? I only heard about one, cited earlier in this thread.

If anyone has information on any other victims taken to Danbury Hospital, please post evidence.
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So we have a name? I call Bullshit. I went to school with a Beggs and guess what his family did for money.
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I would rather have a Newtown incident every single day than give up one iota of my right to keep and bear arms.
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Troll....do not feed....
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From the Hartford Courant:


"Dr. William Begg, who was on duty in the emergency room when victims of the Dec. 14 shooting arrived at Danbury Hospital, testified in favor of a ban on assault weapons."

Later in the same article:

"Begg, the doctor from Danbury Hospital, argued a few statistics of his own, his voice rising as he cited the increased risk of death for people in homes with guns. Next to the witness table as he spoke were giant posters of a hand reduced to blood and tissue from an assault weapon.

The young Newtown victims each took three to 11 bullets. "Most of the victims didn't actually come in," he said of the emergency room. "We had such horrific injuries to little bodies, that's what happened. They don't even make it to the hospital
.""
[link to www.courant.com]

How many victims went to the hospital? I only heard about one, cited earlier in this thread.

If anyone has information on any other victims taken to Danbury Hospital, please post evidence.
 Quoting: Gladio



All of them should have gone to the hospital. First responders broke the law....

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If I can turn my rifle into an assault weapon is it applicable to your law?
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A father of a boy with a different last name...

Father? Prove it.
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If I can turn my rifle into an assault weapon is it applicable to your law?
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Shotguns, rifles... the name to a face. Finally!





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