Comet C/2012 S1 ISON is Nibiru the great perturber.

I have a pain between my ears from reading five pages of arguments, I will research this by myself, for myself- won't inflict it on anyone! LOL

Original Post, or Original Poster.

Original Post being the post that started the thread.

What is important here that you were certain something was true when it wasn't.
Ergo: we can't trust your judgement.

You also claimed that McCanneyism is true...

Excuse me?
Comets have never produced ginormous lightning bolts, not even when passing close-by.

And that's why you are a cultist.

"It feels true" is more important to you than evidence.

Where is the McCanneyism in those papers?

Nobody but astronomers care about his run-of-the-mill ordinary space science.

Why do I have to keep reminding you of the claims YOU made.

YOUR claim: No water found.
Now proof it.

That's what culties often think.
Intelligence has nothing to do with it.

Yeah, by pure random chance ALL the comets that had fly-by-s happened to be non-McCanneyist comets.

The Church of McCanneyism.

There's a guru, affectionately addressed by his followers, who claims to have the only true insights in the nature of reality.
He never actually proofs anything but what he says "feels true."
His followers will stand on (digital) street-corners telling people passing by of this great revelation that will change your life if you only believe.
Etc.

I definitely get that vibe...

Cut it out.
I do.
You're not my type.

Watcha talkin' about.
I never mentioned Dr. Plait.

What's your obsession with professor Hawking?
Any scientist would do as an example.

We want your evidence for McCanneyism, so far you've only produced a lot of handwaving, misdirection, and hot air.

End of this line of discussion.

Speculation is never evidence of anything.

This whole scientific method thing you bragged about was just grand-standing, wasn't it?
Like so many woowoos you don't know what it means to proof something.

The stupid, it hurts!

I must have been mistaken when I read that you have to have a P.H.D to even think of becoming a Professor.

He didn't finish his P.H.D

Liked your well written and interesting observations re ISON..

Hope you continue.

I think this could be the one we have been waiting for too...

I'm not fearful just interested ...as I suspect you are also.

I agree with some of the comments re derailing of threads ...

Can't understand why Dr Astro always appears and does this..

I don't see any need for his information re your thread as you are just reporting what you have observed and trying to put across YOUR ideas.

It's your thread and you should be able to express your ideas without this obvious side-tracking -- We are all aware of it...

I don't know if anyone noticed, but the thing is gonna get PREEETY close to Mars on September 29th....

A few days into the new year I became aware of a subtle energy change

Very tks!


Well, so the problem is me. So don't listen to me, listen to McCanney. Also, you don't prove that every countries in the world ask a person to be a PhD to be a Professor.


No close-by occured in modern times.


I don't recognize something as True without good evidences. But I don't depend on PhDs to do that for me.


Go check the papers I gave and you will see.


I gave astro journals for you.


My claim: no ICE found.
The official model says that comets are made of ice and rock. So, they have such data very easy to anybody to see. Go there and bring to us where is the ice on comets. I mean REAL PICTURES.


That's what PhDs thinks about their supernatural powers.


Looks how you never read the papers you asked to me: he always said that big comets are uncommon.


Never heard about. We don't have it in Brazil.


There is a guru, which cannot talk, move, walk, write, and lives in his own little world that can't go further than his own mobile-toillete without help, but have more power on scientific community than Karl Popper, Newton, Einstein or Aquiles. Nobody knows if is really him who writes his books, but everybody believe so. His name: Stephen Hawking.

At least McCanney talks by himself!! Heheheheh!!


You never see me.


So tell me again, evidences of what you need?
But Phill still needs to prove his claimings about McCanney!


I would do as an example of life. I would not like to live like him.



Go listen to his radio shows, he always prove his claimings. It's for free. I can't do that, I'm not a scientist. Or buy your binoculars and wait for October.


You win


I mean that sometimes the speculations are too big to be ignored. Would not be strange to find lipstick in your husband's clothes?


Do that in pieces, we are discussing so many things here that is not clear yet what do you want from me other then flowers.

I don't know if anyone noticed, but the thing is gonna get PREEETY close to Mars on September 29th....

Here's the obscure amateur image I've managed to find of Comet C/2012 S1 ISON taken in January 2013 for all the ADD/Demonic/Chaotic types so they don't have to read anything more than a few words and can quickly right it off with BS flags and make inane comments about Uranus.

[link to i791.photobucket.com]

I feel like the stripper who puts her jinger back on and walks down in to the audience to have a drink with the boys. Here's the back ground.

After the CometC/2010 X1 Elenin fizzle out last year, I lost interest in the whole PX/Nibiru/Red Dragon meme, which in hindsight we were all supposed via the to do as a result of the disinformation sown about the subject over the years, since the NASA psy-op Zetatalkby Nancy Leider brought it to prominence in the early years of 2000.

Zetatalks credibility was blown out of the water with the claim it would be seen on the 15 May 2003. When it didn't show up the Zetas confessed that date was a white lie just to get the subject in front of the public early. Just days ago Nancy then pops up claiming Zetatalk is the only authority to consider when looking for Planet X Earth Change information. Are we being set up for another round of disinformation.

A few days into the new year I became aware of a subtle energy change I found myself saying to the casual acquaintance who would quiz me about the latest doom news, "Not long to go now before the big Earth changes!" that was after the end of the Mayan Calendar came and went (another psy-op) I had no additional information yet something in me was confident the big changes were just around the proverbial corner.

I religiously check Space Weather's near Earth Object reports and noticed an influx of new asteroids all discovered in the new year. I threaded it on LOP and got a bit of interest.

Then the Pope resigned followed quickly by the Russian Meteorite and I was off the spidey senses were tingling.
I combed the news releases about the ISS and comets noticed the articles about the three for this year,

Comet Pan-STARRS (C/2011 L4)
Comet Lemmon (C/2012 F6)
Comet ISON (C/2012 S1)

Saw the official images which were just highly magnified images of feeble looking light smudges against the sea of streaked stars. Comet Lemmon was the brightest and best formed its luminescent blue/green colour I decided makes it a great candidate for the blue Kachina of the Hopi prophecy.
I checked the orbit diagrams noted none were coming from under the elliptic as we have been programmed to believe about PX. Why else were they racing to build infrared telescopes in Antarctica I reasoned. Comet C/2012 S1 ISON was coming from the opposite direction above the elliptic. So I moved on to other areas of Earth monitoring.

I picked up on a rumour started by a major Electric Universe Scientist that he was hearing chatter about an incoming mini solar system type object spotted just outside Jupiter's orbit. I remembered reading one of the comets had been discovered just outside the orbit of Jupiter.

I Combed the alternate space weather sites again but could find nothing. Then articles appeared about C/2012 S1 ISON could be a candidate for a major spectacle as its orbit was following that of the Great Comet of1680. No sooner had that article appeared then another one came out disputing that saying Comet displays are highly unpredictable and listing all the comets that were hyped up but fizzled out.

This piece of cognitive dissonance annoyed me. I had read C/2012 S1 ISON's core was a big as a mountain at least twice as big as Comet Lovejoy and hadn't started out gassing yet. It's orbit would start above the elliptic lit up by the Sun and it would swing close by Mars in plain view from the Earth before dipping below the elliptic at around 1 AU from the Sun (Great View from Antarctica) rip around the Sun's South Pole inside the orbit of Mercury before screaming out of the solar system from the Sun up and out above Earths North Pole in high arc. If that wasn't going to look pretty neat I don't know what was.

It then occurred to me they don't want us looking at it. Comb the internet again, despite all the high profile, main stream telescopes out there as usual we have to rely on the amateurs for any images. Like our tax money pays for these big toys and we have to wait years to get images that have been purged of any anomalies likely to dispute the Newtonian Physics world view.

Trying to find the mass of any comet is a difficult thing, for years now that information is classified like they don't want us know how big are these things that are increasingly blasting though our solar system.

They don't need to know the mass to calculate an orbit. Remember the old school physics video when they drop a wooden ball and a iron ball of a tower and see which on hits first. They both hit at the same time its Newtons Law the force of gravity is a constant.

They use observations to plot the objects movement and extrapolate the orbit based on Keplers laws which predict freely falling Solar bodies move in a conic orbit with the Sun at one of the foci that sweeps equal areas in equal time periods according to a known constant.

None of the Ephemerides of the Near Earth Objects have a value for mass. They calculate mass using other methods active and passive to measure density, so arriving at an estimated value.

Pulling up obscure academic PDF articles which is about as exciting as reading a reserve bank annual report. The authors report little evidence of cometary activity. ( No Out Gassing) blah jargon blah, meaningless graphs, obligatory comment dirty snowball blah blah..Then I came across this image buried in the document.

[link to i791.photobucket.com]

First impression its spherical, icy objects need to be over 400 km in diameter to reach hydrostatic equilibrium with gravity and take on a spherical shape. That's a big mountain!

Then I notice the angular diameter scale in arc seconds. C/2012 S1 is 15 arc seconds wide! That's 50,000 kilometres at 5.22 AU distance from the Sun. Jupiter at the same distance is 30 arc seconds the same width as the scale line. Its half the size of Jupiter! The Earth's average diameter is 12,742 kilometres so its four times as big as the Earth!

I rush off looking up astronomy tables to compare the sizes. Then come back for a third look at the image and do my second double take of the evening I can make out the companion moons right beside it!

Here's some later images with internal processed images and one I jacked up the red hue saturation to reveal the cold detail.

[link to i791.photobucket.com]

[link to i791.photobucket.com]

Either way your goal with that post was clearly to prove someone else wrong only for the satisfaction of being right, we don't need that here. Who cares if he's referred to as a professor or a teacher, when in reality, they literally are the same thing.

See.. If as many are truly aware of what astro does as you think they are he wouldn't have 100% green karma and be liked by almost everyone on this site. It's fucking sad to watch 90% of those who think they're awake be speckledorfed by some fuck with a telescope. Who the fuck are you galileo? NASA Has telescopes too bro, and they're not in your backyard, and guess what, we don't FUCKING BELIEVE THEM EITHER.

The insulting comments to defame my character, repetitive!

Yeah, I know, but is not the example I ask for you. Io is always changing, I want an example of a dorment planet or moon that started suddenly to show huge transformations in its atmosphere and surface, not a place where it is always changing!

Give me only one example of a planet getting or losing large amount of atmosphere, or getting dozens of vulcans erupting, or getting new moutains by itself in one-week period and I do the bet in your conditions.

I said, I don't agree with Io.

At least you would be able to check by yourself with your own cheap equipment. I would not be able to do the same in your conditions.

This have everything to do with the comet size. How to explain a planet gaining or loosing its atmosphere, getting volcanos going off, turning the surface color just after a close comet encounter if not by its size?? If small comets can do that, man I'm really concerned!

If you don't ignore mine, I will not ignore yours.

You almost did.

This is between me and you, so this really has something to do with the issue.

Yes, it is.

Yes, you did, you ask me to abandon McCanney if no orbital changing occurs with Mars. This is a bet.

No equipment, no know-how. I guess I'm in a little disadvantage here.

No, I can't.

Nice, but I can't do the same with orbital movements.

Yes, you did.

Never heard about. Will see if this is valid in this case or not. What if this thing gets offline just during ISON timeframe?

It is a bet and I'm trying to make it just.

You put words in my mouth and broke my small direct statements into smaller indirect ones.

Yes, it is. You can't igore a little calm planet turning to an celestic inferno overnight just after a comet encounter.

It is not enough. McCanney's claims about atmosphere and surface changing being more important than that, so if you want to debunk McCanney, you must do that in all directions.

Giving yourself a title you have not earned demeans your credibility, a Teacher and Professor are not the same, a Professor has to do a lot more schooling themselves AND earn a PHD before they can go on to teach.

This isn't about me being right, it is about the credibility of a man some on here believe.

I agree. Astro completely fucking DESTROYS threads. Some people thought they reached enlightenment when science got popular. Some realized it was just another form of bullshit. I love how astro is able to completely debunk things I have literally witnessed, but based on his calculations (Probably on a spread sheet he made) will render your opinion false, also jupiter's orbit correct, and the moon's tilt unchanged. It never fails. Bet? Post a moon tilt thread, astro will be there within 30 minutes.
Won't leave til you agree or everyone leaves cause it's derailed. In the argument he will back up his beliefs with many NASA images, which anyone on a conspiracy site would not even think to do. Astroshill is one of the biggest problems on this website because he is endorsed by those that own it, otherwise he would not be here, as his bullshit is clearly see through to those that have their eyes open.

Astronutsack doesn't have a PhD in anything, is an confessed amateur photographer and astronomer, yet the gullible here treat him like a god.

He's a disinfo shill being fed scripts by real sellout scientists.

Astronutsack doesn't have a PhD in anything, is an confessed amateur photographer and astronomer, yet the gullible here treat him like a god.

He's a disinfo shill being fed scripts by real sellout scientists.

Stopped reading right there. Fantasy bullshit is obviously a part of your daily routine, so anything you say needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Maybe if you tune your crystals properly you can ascend to the 5th dimension before 'Nibiru' arrives. Don't forget to send a (3-dimensional) postcard.

Whoever Glauco is is terribly misinformed on many subjects and even had the audacity to claim no close fly-by's of asteroids in modern times when in the last 2 months we've had many, some of which hit earth. You are doing a horrible job for the conspiracy side which still shouldn't support a belief that this comet is nibiru, because that is just asinine, but you give those who talk about nibiru a bad name.

Astronutsack doesn't have a PhD in anything, is an confessed amateur photographer and astronomer, yet the gullible here treat him like a god.

He's a disinfo shill being fed scripts by real sellout scientists.

Giving yourself a title you have not earned demeans your credibility, a Teacher and Professor are not the same, a Professor has to do a lot more schooling themselves AND earn a PHD before they can go on to teach.

This isn't about me being right, it is about the credibility of a man some on here believe.

Astronutsack doesn't have a PhD in anything, is an confessed amateur photographer and astronomer, yet the gullible here treat him like a god.

He's a disinfo shill being fed scripts by real sellout scientists.