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Michael Winans Sentenced: Member of Famous Gospel Music Family Sentenced to 14 Years for $8 Million Fraud, Ponzi Scheme

 
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Michael Winans Sentenced: Member of Famous Gospel Music Family Sentenced to 14 Years for $8 Million Fraud, Ponzi Scheme
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Michael Winans Sentenced: Member of Famous Gospel Music Family Sentenced to 14 Years for $8 Million Fraud, Ponzi Scheme
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I'm truly not surprised. There has been a dirty secret in Gospel Music for many years. Unfortunately, most Christians attempt to sweep the corruption, homosexuality, fraud, extra-marital affairs and everything else under the rug.

If they claim to be singing for the Lord, we can't "judge" right now. Innocent until proven guilty. So, how long are we going to make excuses for these low-life criminals?

It's sickening to me. So many of the Southern Gospel artists go to churches (have seen this for years) and pretend to be in financial need, and you walk outside and see them riding in a motor coach that could be worth at least $250K - $500K. Plus, they'll be living in homes worth $350K, while poor-mouthing at the same time for more money.

Here is another one that the Southern Gospel community is attempting to sweep under the rug. The guy listed as Mack Varnado is actually Stewart Varnado who played piano for years for a popular Southern Gospel group.

[link to www.northescambia.com]

Everyone wants to "pray for them". I wonder how much praying they would be doing if he had pictures of their children or grandchildren. Christians need to WAKE UP and smell the coffee. Stop being so naive about the cons, perverts and frauds in most GENRES of the music industry.
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Re: Michael Winans Sentenced: Member of Famous Gospel Music Family Sentenced to 14 Years for $8 Million Fraud, Ponzi Scheme
Michael was buddies with Jamie Foxx.

2 criminals of the same piss pod
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Re: Michael Winans Sentenced: Member of Famous Gospel Music Family Sentenced to 14 Years for $8 Million Fraud, Ponzi Scheme
Michael was buddies with Jamie Foxx.

2 criminals of the same piss pod
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demand a plan to put your
criminal @$$ in prison
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Re: Michael Winans Sentenced: Member of Famous Gospel Music Family Sentenced to 14 Years for $8 Million Fraud, Ponzi Scheme
I'm truly not surprised. There has been a dirty secret in Gospel Music for many years. Unfortunately, most Christians attempt to sweep the corruption, homosexuality, fraud, extra-marital affairs and everything else under the rug.

If they claim to be singing for the Lord, we can't "judge" right now. Innocent until proven guilty. So, how long are we going to make excuses for these low-life criminals?

It's sickening to me. So many of the Southern Gospel artists go to churches (have seen this for years) and pretend to be in financial need, and you walk outside and see them riding in a motor coach that could be worth at least $250K - $500K. Plus, they'll be living in homes worth $350K, while poor-mouthing at the same time for more money.

Here is another one that the Southern Gospel community is attempting to sweep under the rug. The guy listed as Mack Varnado is actually Stewart Varnado who played piano for years for a popular Southern Gospel group.

[link to www.northescambia.com]

Everyone wants to "pray for them". I wonder how much praying they would be doing if he had pictures of their children or grandchildren. Christians need to WAKE UP and smell the coffee. Stop being so naive about the cons, perverts and frauds in most GENRES of the music industry.
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i can vouch for your claims.
was in it for yrs.
the filth turned my stomach.
which is why i left.
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Re: Michael Winans Sentenced: Member of Famous Gospel Music Family Sentenced to 14 Years for $8 Million Fraud, Ponzi Scheme
Check out this article about Southern Gospel Music that talks about how the homosexuality community is attracted to the genre.

[link to goqnotes.com]
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Check out this article about Southern Gospel Music that talks about how the homosexuality community is attracted to the genre.

[link to goqnotes.com]
 Quoting: Satellite-Feed 6833131


Kirk Talley was a closet gay for yrs.

very talented indeed
but still

Talley authored #1 hit
Step into the water

recorded by the Cathedrals
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I'm truly not surprised. There has been a dirty secret in Gospel Music for many years. Unfortunately, most Christians attempt to sweep the corruption, homosexuality, fraud, extra-marital affairs and everything else under the rug.

If they claim to be singing for the Lord, we can't "judge" right now. Innocent until proven guilty. So, how long are we going to make excuses for these low-life criminals?

It's sickening to me. So many of the Southern Gospel artists go to churches (have seen this for years) and pretend to be in financial need, and you walk outside and see them riding in a motor coach that could be worth at least $250K - $500K. Plus, they'll be living in homes worth $350K, while poor-mouthing at the same time for more money.

Here is another one that the Southern Gospel community is attempting to sweep under the rug. The guy listed as Mack Varnado is actually Stewart Varnado who played piano for years for a popular Southern Gospel group.

[link to www.northescambia.com]

Everyone wants to "pray for them". I wonder how much praying they would be doing if he had pictures of their children or grandchildren. Christians need to WAKE UP and smell the coffee. Stop being so naive about the cons, perverts and frauds in most GENRES of the music industry.
 Quoting: Satellite-Feed 6833131


i can vouch for your claims.
was in it for yrs.
the filth turned my stomach.
which is why i left.
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We anonymously attempted to educate some of the "sleeping Christians" to the fraud and ungodly lifestyles on a Southern Gospel forum - without calling the names of the artists.

Long, long story short......the very famous forum ending up shutting down. Now, isn't that interesting?

My favorite fraudster is a man who claims to be a pastor who holds SG concerts in the South for a $12 donation plus love offering. Now....it's called a donation, but you can't get into the front door of the auditorium without putting money into the big white buckets. (That's NOT a donation - that's a ticket price)
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Re: Michael Winans Sentenced: Member of Famous Gospel Music Family Sentenced to 14 Years for $8 Million Fraud, Ponzi Scheme
We anonymously attempted to educate some of the "sleeping Christians" to the fraud and ungodly lifestyles on a Southern Gospel forum - without calling the names of the artists.

Long, long story short......the very famous forum ending up shutting down. Now, isn't that interesting?

My favorite fraudster is a man who claims to be a pastor who holds SG concerts in the South for a $12 donation plus love offering. Now....it's called a donation, but you can't get into the front door of the auditorium without putting money into the big white buckets. (That's NOT a donation - that's a ticket price)
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my first run in with the southern
gospel music scam was Jim and Tammy Faye.

I could write a book, lol

several books actually
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We anonymously attempted to educate some of the "sleeping Christians" to the fraud and ungodly lifestyles on a Southern Gospel forum - without calling the names of the artists.

Long, long story short......the very famous forum ending up shutting down. Now, isn't that interesting?

My favorite fraudster is a man who claims to be a pastor who holds SG concerts in the South for a $12 donation plus love offering. Now....it's called a donation, but you can't get into the front door of the auditorium without putting money into the big white buckets. (That's NOT a donation - that's a ticket price)
 Quoting: Satellite-Feed 6833131


my first run in with the southern
gospel music scam was Jim and Tammy Faye.

I could write a book, lol

several books actually
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35768809


We have seriously wondered if a LOT of this "donation plus love offering" is a cover for money laundering and/or drug smuggling. Think about it - it would be the perfect cover. With a love offering, how would you ever trace it?

Southern Gospel groups would come to our church constantly when I was much younger and some of the married men would very obviously flirt with me. I saw that many of them were sleazy way back then. It was pathetic.

When offering time came around, we always enjoyed the "my bus broke down" stories and the announcement of the "limited supplies of CD's". Just laughable.
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Re: Michael Winans Sentenced: Member of Famous Gospel Music Family Sentenced to 14 Years for $8 Million Fraud, Ponzi Scheme
I could write a book, lol

several books actually
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35768809


Gold City Qt
hiring 4 prostitutes in Alabama

Kingsmen Qt
married singer screws teen girl in hotel

Dove Brothers Qt
singer addicted to alcohol

Dixie Melody Boys Qt
singer addicted to barbiturates

vote rigging for Gospel Music news awards

the show must go on

the public needs them like another
hole in the head
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I could write a book, lol

several books actually
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35768809


Gold City Qt
hiring 4 prostitutes in Alabama

Kingsmen Qt
married singer screws teen girl in hotel

Dove Brothers Qt
singer addicted to alcohol

Dixie Melody Boys Qt
singer addicted to barbiturates

vote rigging for Gospel Music news awards

the show must go on

the public needs them like another
hole in the head
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35768809


Wow! I had not heard about some of those shockeroos. That's awful. The following is old news, but it just shows where the church as a whole, to include some of it's music, is going. How can Protestants say anything about the Catholics when this is going on all over the place?



PLUS, there is an openly gay church in Arkansas that entertains quite a few of the SG singers, to include Kenny Bishop, Kirk Talley, Cynthia Clawson, Lula Roman, Joyce Martin, etc.

[link to www.sherwoodopendoor.org]
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Wow! I had not heard about some of those shockeroos. That's awful.
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lol

that's only a portion of what I know.
I told ya I could write several books ;)

but nobody would publish them

it would be a threat to their sacred
system
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Wow! I had not heard about some of those shockeroos. That's awful.
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lol

that's only a portion of what I know.
I told ya I could write several books ;)

but nobody would publish them

it would be a threat to their sacred
system
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I truly think that it's a club, a small club, but a club, nonetheless. An honest man is not going to stand up and beg for money one minute and invite you to go on their SG cruise the next. The duplicity is unbelievable.

One particular SG singer named had people bringing him one-ply toilet paper and batteries to help with their expenses. His fans asked how they could help him (and he is a successful artist), and he said that they needed toilet paper and batteries. They are utterly shameless.
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Re: Michael Winans Sentenced: Member of Famous Gospel Music Family Sentenced to 14 Years for $8 Million Fraud, Ponzi Scheme
I could write a book, lol

several books actually
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35768809


Gold City Qt
hiring 4 prostitutes in Alabama

Kingsmen Qt
married singer screws teen girl in hotel

Dove Brothers Qt
singer addicted to alcohol

Dixie Melody Boys Qt
singer addicted to barbiturates

vote rigging for Gospel Music news awards

the show must go on

the public needs them like another
hole in the head
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35768809


Sources? How many of these comprise current members?
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Re: Michael Winans Sentenced: Member of Famous Gospel Music Family Sentenced to 14 Years for $8 Million Fraud, Ponzi Scheme
Coward is a good name for you.
It's easy to make unfounded accusations to smear people.
I've been in this music for 45 years and people like you who want to make rumors to spread with no evidence get me sick.

You were never in Gospel Music in any major way. You might have sang with a little local group, but you couldn't write more than the false sentences you have here.

Put your name on here and we'll talk, otherwise you and all the other gossipers on here just need to keep you imaginations to yourself.

Deon Unthank

I could write a book, lol

several books actually
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Gold City Qt
hiring 4 prostitutes in Alabama

Kingsmen Qt
married singer screws teen girl in hotel

Dove Brothers Qt
singer addicted to alcohol

Dixie Melody Boys Qt
singer addicted to barbiturates

vote rigging for Gospel Music news awards

the show must go on

the public needs them like another
hole in the head
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Re: Michael Winans Sentenced: Member of Famous Gospel Music Family Sentenced to 14 Years for $8 Million Fraud, Ponzi Scheme
I am in a very fortunate position staying in South Africa - far from all envy and politics. I love Southern Gospel music. It is a huge blessing to me and the Holy Spirit ministers to me through these talented people.
I am also very fortunate to know the Bible where God tells me to love my neighbor. Not always easy.
I do not know the singers personally, but I refuse to judge, but to love.
I have 1 request though. Pray that you could see everybody through the eyes of Jesus





GLP