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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35538102 United States 03/04/2013 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then sometimes I feel the desire to buy a house. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35538102 Why would I do that? Buying a big expensive house is self-imposed slavery. I want to live in one of those tiny homes/cabins you see on youtube. I don't need much space at all... Too bad there's not a community of tiny homes where you can easily own your home rather than having to work for 30 years just so you can say you own the home you've been living in all that time - all while it depreciates in value. yeah same here. i remember looking at an expensive condo and all the fees/assessments/conditions i was like no way man.. i'd rather have a small home, in the country, paid off in cash.. no ticky tack fees stacking up |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35409491 United States 03/04/2013 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was close enough to ground zero 9-11-01 to see what others have lied about seeing; hypnotized into believing they saw something they did not see; and those who doubt what they saw. Quoting: Daanl's Dream I gave my land away, my small farm, my possessions and my I.D. to the funeral pyres of reality and have lived that way since. "Homeless" my present "refuge" is a reminder of what I left behind. I regret nothing. Do as you are being bid to do. " in the night, when man sleeps, God seals up his instructions" Do it now. :) Why did you give everything away? Do you live on the street? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35554756 Croatia 03/04/2013 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For the same reason you describe, I never ended up working in a company. I freelance. If I don't like the client, I send him off. :) But if you are not ready to do that, or you have no skills yet, never fear, the time will come. Also, a nice hobby can help you spiritually. Find something to do that is close to your heart, and there will be more meaning to life. You don't neccessarily need to make a living off of it, right away. As for the work environment, that is the system we must change, many of us are facing it. I personally found that when dealing with that kind of people it helps to look at them as children and just laugh at their mistakes and corrupt beliefe systems. You must be aware that they are not happy either. They might be successful, but never trully happy. :) |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 5829 United States 03/04/2013 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you to everyone who has replied here. It really means a lot to get feedback from others who understand and who are not caught up in desires for worldly things. I'm really enjoying reading everyone's perspective. I feel like I'm unconsciously preparing myself for rock bottom, or some sort of life-changing experience. I filed bankruptcy a year ago and luckily for me, although I still live in my home and have my car, I'm free to walk away from both with no penalty. So essentially I'm going month to month. Just don't want to walk until I know what I'm doing. I did some community service over the weekend, and one of the vendors came over mimicking a homeless man for fun (We had a stand with different bins for trash and recyclables). Then said to us, "all jokes aside, but those people make decisions that leads to their homelessness." The guy was really just saying awful things about less fortunate people. It was such a heartless act that I simply disagreed with him and turned my back to him. I later talked with a buddy while at a bar about it and he pretty much agreed with the vendor and said that the homeless harasses him while at work (he manages a liquor store). I had to then explain that "while those homeless people may be an inconvenience to you, their lives are shit. I hope you're never in position where you need help." The point here is, why is it that some of the worst, most hateful people live such great lives, but people like me who love and care for others struggle so much to the point to where we feel we're better off dead? It's sad. |
nutmeg User ID: 35189740 United States 03/04/2013 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For the last few years I'd been trying to fix all the mistakes I made in preparing myself for life as an adult, for career aspirations and making myself a great catch. None of it is real. Quoting: Anonymous Yet Brave 5829 In college, I didn't choose a major that would be beneficial to my financial well-being. Instead, I chose to major in disciplines that for whatever reason excited me and held my attention. Stuff that I found much interest in. Those things were Anthropology, Sociology, and Religion. I learned so much from those subjects. I went and earned a Masters' in Business Administration with a concentration in Information Systems and Management. I feel I'm a very well-rounded individual. I had a brief chat with the National Director of marketing here at my firm and she pretty much told me, without saying, that I have to seek out those with clout and kiss their asses to move up, without saying it. I can't explain how disappointed I felt after that meeting. I wanted to walk out of the building and to my car and go home. But it's not just my firm. All of the world operates in this manner. And when you see it clearly, it's enough to make you go mad. Anyway, my point here is that I'm in a lot of debt. I am degree'd and I cannot make an affordable living. Just seems like I have to work too hard for every little thing and my soul is tired. I can't find it in my spirit to play the game necessary for making it in the world. I work with my rich mentor and his "gift" for making money stresses me out so bad. I dread coming to work and having to pretend that I want to be a part of it. I'm not even sure I want to get comfortable. I live amongst the meek. If God called for me to go now, I would leave the world without looking back. Without holding on to anything here. If I start to make good money and get comfortable, I'm afraid I won't feel as free and I will be caught in that trap. The more comfort you attain, the more you have to do to maintain it. I'm ready to go now. I post this hear just for an ear of people who can understand where I'm coming from. I cannot express this to anyone in my life. Especially my mom. No one would understand and think I'm crazy or suicidal. Just wanted to get that out. Congratulations on that MBA! You have the opportunity to pay off your debts, have money to live comfortably, travel, and put food on your table, but you don't want to? True...money doesn't "buy" happiness, but it sure is better than being poor and in debt, struggling...working two jobs, etc., like many people do. They are miserable. I doubt if any successful person didn't seek out those with clout. I knew a PhD who felt that his degree was all he needed. He never was nice to those in authority..in fact, he'd rather argue his beliefs and, as a result, made enemies. He was stubborn. Then he wondered why he didn't get promoted. He retired and is struggling now because whatever money he saved is not getting much interest. I also knew a young attorney (in his 30's) who never mingled socially with those in authority. He was one of the first ones to go from his firm when they had to reduce the number of employees. He had to look for a new job...it wasn't easy. It's just a fact that you should associate with the higher ups. I once heard Oprah Winfrey say that you always should associate with those more successful than you. This is coming from a woman who lived in poverty and was raped repeatedly by her grandfather and other men in her family. How horrible is that? Other women in her situation would have given up long ago, and here she is...happy, successful, and has enough money to do whatever she wishes. Good luck. You have your whole life ahead of you. Make it a good one. Last Edited by nutmeg on 03/04/2013 02:08 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35420591 Greece 03/04/2013 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The point here is, why is it that some of the worst, most hateful people live such great lives, but people like me who love and care for others struggle so much to the point to where we feel we're better off dead? It's sad. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5829 My friend, I live in a country that all the worst people are having great jobs, have fortunes and they pay the less taxes of all. Most of the times they have these jobs without any qualification or the necessary skills. It's a jungle out there and you must be mean to get up to the ladder of "success". I have seen women getting hired because they are pretty and have nice boobs, and men getting hired as programmers without knowing any programming language, just because they know a high ranking person in the company, so they get payed even though they actually continue to learn and not produce. That has made me get away a little from finding a job, because everyone finds one through their social network and not from job interviews etc etc, so even though skilled, I cannot get a proper job. My solution is to live in a village, probably as a farmer and forget all about those idiots. You don't have to get homeless, you can just not follow the corporate corruption and do something of your own. |
nutmeg User ID: 35189740 United States 03/04/2013 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you to everyone who has replied here. It really means a lot to get feedback from others who understand and who are not caught up in desires for worldly things. I'm really enjoying reading everyone's perspective. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5829 I feel like I'm unconsciously preparing myself for rock bottom, or some sort of life-changing experience. I filed bankruptcy a year ago and luckily for me, although I still live in my home and have my car, I'm free to walk away from both with no penalty. So essentially I'm going month to month. Just don't want to walk until I know what I'm doing. I did some community service over the weekend, and one of the vendors came over mimicking a homeless man for fun (We had a stand with different bins for trash and recyclables). Then said to us, "all jokes aside, but those people make decisions that leads to their homelessness." The guy was really just saying awful things about less fortunate people. It was such a heartless act that I simply disagreed with him and turned my back to him. I later talked with a buddy while at a bar about it and he pretty much agreed with the vendor and said that the homeless harasses him while at work (he manages a liquor store). I had to then explain that "while those homeless people may be an inconvenience to you, their lives are shit. I hope you're never in position where you need help." The point here is, why is it that some of the worst, most hateful people live such great lives, but people like me who love and care for others struggle so much to the point to where we feel we're better off dead? It's sad. Seems that you are only noticing people who live "great lives" but are hateful. Look at the successful, kind, and caring people who lead "great lives" who help those less fortunate. You can be one of those because you have everything going for you now. Not many people can say that. You have a choice. You can make a lot of money, buy and live in a small house, if that's your choice, and help the less fortunate. Or you can be one of the less fortunate and depend on the people with money to help you. Last Edited by nutmeg on 03/04/2013 02:39 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32061884 United States 03/04/2013 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For the last few years I'd been trying to fix all the mistakes I made in preparing myself for life as an adult, for career aspirations and making myself a great catch. None of it is real. Quoting: Anonymous Yet Brave 5829 In college, I didn't choose a major that would be beneficial to my financial well-being. Instead, I chose to major in disciplines that for whatever reason excited me and held my attention. Stuff that I found much interest in. Those things were Anthropology, Sociology, and Religion. I learned so much from those subjects. I went and earned a Masters' in Business Administration with a concentration in Information Systems and Management. I feel I'm a very well-rounded individual. I had a brief chat with the National Director of marketing here at my firm and she pretty much told me, without saying, that I have to seek out those with clout and kiss their asses to move up, without saying it. I can't explain how disappointed I felt after that meeting. I wanted to walk out of the building and to my car and go home. But it's not just my firm. All of the world operates in this manner. And when you see it clearly, it's enough to make you go mad. Anyway, my point here is that I'm in a lot of debt. I am degree'd and I cannot make an affordable living. Just seems like I have to work too hard for every little thing and my soul is tired. I can't find it in my spirit to play the game necessary for making it in the world. I work with my rich mentor and his "gift" for making money stresses me out so bad. I dread coming to work and having to pretend that I want to be a part of it. I'm not even sure I want to get comfortable. I live amongst the meek. If God called for me to go now, I would leave the world without looking back. Without holding on to anything here. If I start to make good money and get comfortable, I'm afraid I won't feel as free and I will be caught in that trap. The more comfort you attain, the more you have to do to maintain it. I'm ready to go now. I post this hear just for an ear of people who can understand where I'm coming from. I cannot express this to anyone in my life. Especially my mom. No one would understand and think I'm crazy or suicidal. Just wanted to get that out. Ohh your in marketing, here this will help. |
Eazy D User ID: 35315493 United States 03/04/2013 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I feel you op. I am young and have no desire to subject myself to the never fulfilling life of obtaining money and sucking up. Even in my current part time job I realize it is all about sucking up. I'm majoring in sociology too, not because it will get me a high paying job, but because it has allowed me to understand the world and have better empathy for others. I feel that if we live life with contentment and work hard at whatever we do, then we will be rewarded naturally. I think the goal in life is to not worry so much about our future, but be prepared for it by developing a true work ethic--especially centered around helping others and the world.. I really have enjoyed reading this thread! |
Eazy D User ID: 35315493 United States 03/04/2013 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you to everyone who has replied here. It really means a lot to get feedback from others who understand and who are not caught up in desires for worldly things. I'm really enjoying reading everyone's perspective. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5829 I feel like I'm unconsciously preparing myself for rock bottom, or some sort of life-changing experience. I filed bankruptcy a year ago and luckily for me, although I still live in my home and have my car, I'm free to walk away from both with no penalty. So essentially I'm going month to month. Just don't want to walk until I know what I'm doing. I did some community service over the weekend, and one of the vendors came over mimicking a homeless man for fun (We had a stand with different bins for trash and recyclables). Then said to us, "all jokes aside, but those people make decisions that leads to their homelessness." The guy was really just saying awful things about less fortunate people. It was such a heartless act that I simply disagreed with him and turned my back to him. I later talked with a buddy while at a bar about it and he pretty much agreed with the vendor and said that the homeless harasses him while at work (he manages a liquor store). I had to then explain that "while those homeless people may be an inconvenience to you, their lives are shit. I hope you're never in position where you need help." The point here is, why is it that some of the worst, most hateful people live such great lives, but people like me who love and care for others struggle so much to the point to where we feel we're better off dead? It's sad. I think because we can only find true fulfillment through suffering. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26795689 United States 03/04/2013 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I feel you op. I am young and have no desire to subject myself to the never fulfilling life of obtaining money and sucking up. Even in my current part time job I realize it is all about sucking up. I'm majoring in sociology too, not because it will get me a high paying job, but because it has allowed me to understand the world and have better empathy for others. I feel that if we live life with contentment and work hard at whatever we do, then we will be rewarded naturally. I think the goal in life is to not worry so much about our future, but be prepared for it by developing a true work ethic--especially centered around helping others and the world.. Quoting: Eazy D I really have enjoyed reading this thread! :applaud1: When I was in college I studied criminal justice, psychology, and sociology because those subjects/fields genuinely interested me! Other people were picking majors that they felt would lead to better careers or higher paying jobs after college. I couldn't bring myself to spend 4 years studying something I wasn't interested in. I feel like my studies helped open the door to a greater understanding of our society and people in general. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35544901 United Kingdom 03/04/2013 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | never gave a shit about money, all i wanted to do was play guitar , smoke the odd fatty and have a good time, it worked back then, still works now, im happy. what the fuck would i want money for? i eat, i sleep in a warm bed , have fun , get high, play guitar. its all good Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35563245 Oh dear I do hope you're not one of those benefit scroungers |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34276055 United States 03/04/2013 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you to everyone who has replied here. It really means a lot to get feedback from others who understand and who are not caught up in desires for worldly things. I'm really enjoying reading everyone's perspective. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5829 I feel like I'm unconsciously preparing myself for rock bottom, or some sort of life-changing experience. I filed bankruptcy a year ago and luckily for me, although I still live in my home and have my car, I'm free to walk away from both with no penalty. So essentially I'm going month to month. Just don't want to walk until I know what I'm doing. I did some community service over the weekend, and one of the vendors came over mimicking a homeless man for fun (We had a stand with different bins for trash and recyclables). Then said to us, "all jokes aside, but those people make decisions that leads to their homelessness." The guy was really just saying awful things about less fortunate people. It was such a heartless act that I simply disagreed with him and turned my back to him. I later talked with a buddy while at a bar about it and he pretty much agreed with the vendor and said that the homeless harasses him while at work (he manages a liquor store). I had to then explain that "while those homeless people may be an inconvenience to you, their lives are shit. I hope you're never in position where you need help." The point here is, why is it that some of the worst, most hateful people live such great lives, but people like me who love and care for others struggle so much to the point to where we feel we're better off dead? It's sad. I think because we can only find true fulfillment through suffering. SO very TRUE! For you Op and all the others who have pure hearts! |
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Kirk User ID: 25384388 United States 03/04/2013 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then sometimes I feel the desire to buy a house. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35538102 Why would I do that? Buying a big expensive house is self-imposed slavery. I want to live in one of those tiny homes/cabins you see on youtube. I don't need much space at all... Too bad there's not a community of tiny homes where you can easily own your home rather than having to work for 30 years just so you can say you own the home you've been living in all that time - all while it depreciates in value. there is a yahoo group - tiny houses Government is a body largely ungoverned. |
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Eazy D User ID: 35315493 United States 03/04/2013 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I feel you op. I am young and have no desire to subject myself to the never fulfilling life of obtaining money and sucking up. Even in my current part time job I realize it is all about sucking up. I'm majoring in sociology too, not because it will get me a high paying job, but because it has allowed me to understand the world and have better empathy for others. I feel that if we live life with contentment and work hard at whatever we do, then we will be rewarded naturally. I think the goal in life is to not worry so much about our future, but be prepared for it by developing a true work ethic--especially centered around helping others and the world.. Quoting: Eazy D I really have enjoyed reading this thread! :applaud1: When I was in college I studied criminal justice, psychology, and sociology because those subjects/fields genuinely interested me! Other people were picking majors that they felt would lead to better careers or higher paying jobs after college. I couldn't bring myself to spend 4 years studying something I wasn't interested in. I feel like my studies helped open the door to a greater understanding of our society and people in general. Yessss. Good for you! College has never really been for me anyway, but thank God, like you, I made a choice to study something I am at least interested in. Same goes for the OP. It's hard for people to understand why I would decide to make choices in college that will not make me 'rich'...so many times have people looked down on my choices. I used to be self-conscious about it but as time goes on I realize my choices have made me a better person and will make me the man I should be. |
davvi User ID: 3677166 United States 03/04/2013 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | just go live in another country. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27807487 debt.... gone! its what i did.... education should be free anyways its not that hard. sorry, education can never be free until teachers and professors decide not to take a salary and benefits and breaks. you did not get your education for free you selfish worthless thing...someone paid for that, just not you. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 5829 United States 03/04/2013 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I feel you op. I am young and have no desire to subject myself to the never fulfilling life of obtaining money and sucking up. Even in my current part time job I realize it is all about sucking up. I'm majoring in sociology too, not because it will get me a high paying job, but because it has allowed me to understand the world and have better empathy for others. I feel that if we live life with contentment and work hard at whatever we do, then we will be rewarded naturally. I think the goal in life is to not worry so much about our future, but be prepared for it by developing a true work ethic--especially centered around helping others and the world.. Quoting: Eazy D I really have enjoyed reading this thread! :applaud1: When I was in college I studied criminal justice, psychology, and sociology because those subjects/fields genuinely interested me! Other people were picking majors that they felt would lead to better careers or higher paying jobs after college. I couldn't bring myself to spend 4 years studying something I wasn't interested in. I feel like my studies helped open the door to a greater understanding of our society and people in general. Yessss. Good for you! College has never really been for me anyway, but thank God, like you, I made a choice to study something I am at least interested in. Same goes for the OP. It's hard for people to understand why I would decide to make choices in college that will not make me 'rich'...so many times have people looked down on my choices. I used to be self-conscious about it but as time goes on I realize my choices have made me a better person and will make me the man I should be. I really love the way you explain your choices, along with others here who have majored in Sociology. People always make remarks about it but I knew at that time that there was no money in Sociology but teachings were so rich in valuable substance that helps those at that age mature and grow into great citizens. Wise men who are in-tune with a natural order. I was actually very surprised at how attentive I was, and how much I enjoyed the lectures. I had the same feeling with Anthropology. Sometimes I wish I had gone further in graduate studies. Perhaps you will, Easy D. Working in a corporate environment with a focus on societal needs and projects could make a huge difference in being happy and fulfilled. |
afistfullofsand User ID: 6634123 Canada 03/04/2013 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's a game, things will get better.you must learn steps and this is your first. pay your bills thou when you can afford it.all part of your soul going upward.talk to your banks and who ever and tell the truth.. you can't pay right now.. you will feel better..don't keep it inside you |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35544901 United Kingdom 03/04/2013 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a good decent business, have a 5 bedroom house, wife and kids. Lately though, it is getting harder and harder to make ends meet. I have a fair amount of savings but that is for a rainy day not to help me month to month. I spoke with a property management company yesterday. Basically because I have 7 potential rooms to let, he estimated an income of approx £2300 a month. My mortgage is £800 a month. I have decided to up sticks and move to kashmir where my parents are originally from. We have land and a house there. I am hoping to setup a little software consultancy over there. Get some locals a job. The place is like heavej on earth. No big government, no taxes what you earn is what you earn. Truth is cost of living is so low I wouldnt even have to work. But I will work because I want to do my bit to help others less fortunate than myself. Can't wait to get going. So sick of what the uk has become. |
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davvi User ID: 3677166 United States 03/04/2013 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a good decent business, have a 5 bedroom house, wife and kids. Lately though, it is getting harder and harder to make ends meet. I have a fair amount of savings but that is for a rainy day not to help me month to month. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35544901 I spoke with a property management company yesterday. Basically because I have 7 potential rooms to let, he estimated an income of approx £2300 a month. My mortgage is £800 a month. I have decided to up sticks and move to kashmir where my parents are originally from. We have land and a house there. I am hoping to setup a little software consultancy over there. Get some locals a job. The place is like heavej on earth. No big government, no taxes what you earn is what you earn. Truth is cost of living is so low I wouldnt even have to work. But I will work because I want to do my bit to help others less fortunate than myself. Can't wait to get going. So sick of what the uk has become. aren't you fortunate that you have another place to go? europe, britain, the us, australia, and canada are all we have and then we are forced to share with all kinds of immigrants too. you made your comfort in the UK and now "f" the UK. nice. i will bet that the average brit can't wait for you to get going too. |
Unixlike User ID: 35144735 United States 03/04/2013 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are not crazy at all, and I completely understand your 'soul is tired'. You're more 'awake' than most people. Quoting: Sloane Just don't give up. Keep working until you are out of debt. And then move on to a more simple life, if you can. :Visualize: I sort of feel like that, like my soul is tired. Most of our lives are spent on useless things. Those few things that really matter get lost in the mix too often. After a decade chasing riches and finding no satisfaction I'm resigning myself to take a step back. All I want is a simple honest life without all the crap. So long as my family has what they need then that is enough. I'm done with keeping up with the Jones's, with maintaining appearances. Who the hell are those people anyway? Do I really want to be anything like any of them? I don't think so anymore. I minored in sociology and majored in geography and anthropology. Those subjects gave me a different outlook on life than I ever had before. Screw the rat race. It's for suckers. I'm here to live and enjoy my life doing what I want, not doing what others say just so I can drive a eye catching new vehicle and live in an overpriced house with curb appeal. Last Edited by Unixlike on 03/04/2013 03:04 PM |
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