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CONCLAVE TO ELECT NEW POPE TO START ON MARCH 12 - VATICAN !!! The Vatican Is Trying To Subdue A Growing Feud Between Cardinals!!!

 
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The Vatican's College of Cardinals imposed a media blackout this week for the upcoming meetings to find the next Pope.

At first the blackout was thought to be a reaction to reports in the Italian press containing details of secret Vatican talks, including discussion of an ongoing scandal involving infighting and allegations of corruption in the Vatican Bank.

New reports, however, suggest the blackout is also meant to subdue a growing feud between cardinals.

Until the ban on talking to the press went out, American cardinals had been giving daily talks, skirting the Catholic Church's strict secrecy laws. The Washington Post's Jason Horowitz observes that they may have been the real target of the ban.

There appears to be a culture clash between the brash, PR-savvy American cardinals and the closed ranks of the Italians, observes the New York Times. There may be a political clash as well between the traditionalists based in the Vatican City and reformers in the US and Germany, according to the AP.

It also appears that Italian cardinals may have been angered by American cardinals calling for a slow, steady papal conclave, and arguing that all cardinals must be present before the conclave can begin. After all a longer papal conclave has been seen as favoring cardinals from outside the Vatican.

“Some people in the curia wanted an early election because it would benefit the front-runners, and it would benefit the curial cardinals who already know everybody in the College of Cardinals,” said the Reverend Tom Reese, author of the book “Inside the Vatican", told the Washington Post.

A longer election process would help "unknown" and "younger cardinals", Reese observed. In theory, this may help candidates from the outside Europe, such as outside favorite Boston Cardinal Sean O'Malley or Philippine Cardinal Luis Antonio Tagle.

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hf Geezzz that people never learn... allways in fights!
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I want to be the Anti-Christ! No, i want to be the Anti-Christ!
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The Vatican's College of Cardinals imposed a media blackout this week for the upcoming meetings to find the next Pope.

At first the blackout was thought to be a reaction to reports in the Italian press containing details of secret Vatican talks, including discussion of an ongoing scandal involving infighting and allegations of corruption in the Vatican Bank.

New reports, however, suggest the blackout is also meant to subdue a growing feud between cardinals.

Until the ban on talking to the press went out, American cardinals had been giving daily talks, skirting the Catholic Church's strict secrecy laws. The Washington Post's Jason Horowitz observes that they may have been the real target of the ban.

There appears to be a culture clash between the brash, PR-savvy American cardinals and the closed ranks of the Italians, observes the New York Times. There may be a political clash as well between the traditionalists based in the Vatican City and reformers in the US and Germany, according to the AP.

It also appears that Italian cardinals may have been angered by American cardinals calling for a slow, steady papal conclave, and arguing that all cardinals must be present before the conclave can begin. After all a longer papal conclave has been seen as favoring cardinals from outside the Vatican.

“Some people in the curia wanted an early election because it would benefit the front-runners, and it would benefit the curial cardinals who already know everybody in the College of Cardinals,” said the Reverend Tom Reese, author of the book “Inside the Vatican", told the Washington Post.

A longer election process would help "unknown" and "younger cardinals", Reese observed. In theory, this may help candidates from the outside Europe, such as outside favorite Boston Cardinal Sean O'Malley or Philippine Cardinal Luis Antonio Tagle.

Right now three of the top five favorites on betting site Paddy Power are Italian, and it is suspected that Italian cardinals want another Italian Pope after two consecutive non-Italian Popes, and they certainly hold sway. 28 Italian cardinals will be voting for the new Pope — more than the entire continent of North America.

If this was the Italian cardinals' plan, however, it may have backfired.

Italian newspaper La Stampa writes that the "Roman faction" may have created a "dramatic boomerang effect" with the ban. The paper writes that even Dino Boffo, a Vatican insider and a prominent supporter of Cardinal Camillo Ruini, has suggested that a "New World" candidate might now be chosen.


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Correct me if I am wrong. there always is a ban to speak to the press during the electoral process!
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hf Geezzz that people never learn... allways in fights!
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HQ vs. line staff -- oldest fight in the world
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damn italian cardinals
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CONCLAVE TO ELECT NEW POPE TO START ON MARCH 12 - VATICAN #breaking
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CONCLAVE TO ELECT NEW POPE TO START ON MARCH 12 - VATICAN #breaking

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goodevilpope
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CONCLAVE TO ELECT NEW POPE TO START ON MARCH 12 - VATICAN #breaking

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goodevilpope
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tounge
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CONCLAVE TO ELECT NEW POPE TO START ON MARCH 12 - VATICAN #breaking

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goodevilpope
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What a fitting smilie!
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Reuters Top News‏@Reuters

CONCLAVE TO ELECT NEW POPE TO START ON MARCH 12 - VATICAN #breaking

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goodevilpope
 Quoting: Luisport


tounge
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bEGINS MARCH 12....uh oh....

"Beware the Ides of March!"
Thanks Luisport...another great "heads-up!"
(By the way....the choice of smilies Swinburnian--
just priceless! lol!)
Let's hope that none of them get their knickers
in a "bunch!" They need our prayers and good energy!
Cheers!
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IdesOFmarch
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Can't wait to see who it is...
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Papacy on this date in history:

417 - Innocent I, Italian Pope (401-417), dies
604 - Gregory I the Great, Pope (590-604), dies at 64
1000 - Odo of Lagery elected as Pope Urban II, replacing Victor III
1054 - Pope Leo IX escapes captivity & returns to Rome
1144 - Gherardo Caccianemici elected Pope Lucius II, succeeding Callistus II
1939 - Pope Pius XII crowned in Vatican ceremonies

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Re: CONCLAVE TO ELECT NEW POPE TO START ON MARCH 12 - VATICAN !!! The Vatican Is Trying To Subdue A Growing Feud Between Cardinals!!!
TRUTH: Vatican before 1960 was infiltrated by the illuminati, YET the illuminati did NOT control it.
All "popes" after 1959, except for John Paul I's 33 days, were illuminati agents (1).
As cardinals are chosen by the Pope and they elect the Pope. This means:
- now ALL cardinals are illuminati;
- any new "Pope" would be illuminati, if there would be still time for more "elections".
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This is the truth. look at this video

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Re: CONCLAVE TO ELECT NEW POPE TO START ON MARCH 12 - VATICAN !!! The Vatican Is Trying To Subdue A Growing Feud Between Cardinals!!!
The Vatican's College of Cardinals imposed a media blackout this week for the upcoming meetings to find the next Pope.

At first the blackout was thought to be a reaction to reports in the Italian press containing details of secret Vatican talks, including discussion of an ongoing scandal involving infighting and allegations of corruption in the Vatican Bank.

New reports, however, suggest the blackout is also meant to subdue a growing feud between cardinals.

Until the ban on talking to the press went out, American cardinals had been giving daily talks, skirting the Catholic Church's strict secrecy laws. The Washington Post's Jason Horowitz observes that they may have been the real target of the ban.

There appears to be a culture clash between the brash, PR-savvy American cardinals and the closed ranks of the Italians, observes the New York Times. There may be a political clash as well between the traditionalists based in the Vatican City and reformers in the US and Germany, according to the AP.

It also appears that Italian cardinals may have been angered by American cardinals calling for a slow, steady papal conclave, and arguing that all cardinals must be present before the conclave can begin. After all a longer papal conclave has been seen as favoring cardinals from outside the Vatican.

“Some people in the curia wanted an early election because it would benefit the front-runners, and it would benefit the curial cardinals who already know everybody in the College of Cardinals,” said the Reverend Tom Reese, author of the book “Inside the Vatican", told the Washington Post.

A longer election process would help "unknown" and "younger cardinals", Reese observed. In theory, this may help candidates from the outside Europe, such as outside favorite Boston Cardinal Sean O'Malley or Philippine Cardinal Luis Antonio Tagle.

Right now three of the top five favorites on betting site Paddy Power are Italian, and it is suspected that Italian cardinals want another Italian Pope after two consecutive non-Italian Popes, and they certainly hold sway. 28 Italian cardinals will be voting for the new Pope — more than the entire continent of North America.

If this was the Italian cardinals' plan, however, it may have backfired.

Italian newspaper La Stampa writes that the "Roman faction" may have created a "dramatic boomerang effect" with the ban. The paper writes that even Dino Boffo, a Vatican insider and a prominent supporter of Cardinal Camillo Ruini, has suggested that a "New World" candidate might now be chosen.


Read more: [link to www.businessinsider.com]
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Correct me if I am wrong. there always is a ban to speak to the press during the electoral process!
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Only when they reach Conclave in the Sistine Chapel.
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How long does it usually take for the conclave to reach a decision? A lot of talk that a new pope will be in place by Easter which is 31 March 2013. Of course there is also the doom talk of 22 March 2013.
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Feuding Cardinals should be televised like Celebratory Death Match, ya?

for example, The Battle of Tonya Harding vs Paula
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How long does it usually take for the conclave to reach a decision? A lot of talk that a new pope will be in place by Easter which is 31 March 2013. Of course there is also the doom talk of 22 March 2013.
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i think less than a week, but can be more
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How long does it usually take for the conclave to reach a decision? A lot of talk that a new pope will be in place by Easter which is 31 March 2013. Of course there is also the doom talk of 22 March 2013.
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i think less than a week, but can be more
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four votes a day -- average number of votes in last three conclaves was 6

if they go past 38 votes, the top two from the last vote are the only option and they vote until one gets two-thirds. not sure what happens if that doesn't happen.
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OP WHO GIVES A FUCK!

The Catholic Church heirachy is a closet full of peodophiles - the religion worships a dead Mary and dares to tell their flock that the 'pope' is a substitute for Christ - lol, F F S he is voted in by man!
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You mean they're playing politics and NOT listening to the word of God?!?!?

This is my shocked face...

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Papacy on this date in history:

417 - Innocent I, Italian Pope (401-417), dies
604 - Gregory I the Great, Pope (590-604), dies at 64
1000 - Odo of Lagery elected as Pope Urban II, replacing Victor III
1054 - Pope Leo IX escapes captivity & returns to Rome
1144 - Gherardo Caccianemici elected Pope Lucius II, succeeding Callistus II
1939 - Pope Pius XII crowned in Vatican ceremonies

[link to www.historyorb.com]
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wow
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If you take the date and the time 12:03 pm

12th March / 2013 / 12:03 pm

then add the numbers in each section

you get

6 / 6 / 6
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I want to be the Anti-Christ! No, i want to be the Anti-Christ!
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Re: CONCLAVE TO ELECT NEW POPE TO START ON MARCH 12 - VATICAN !!! The Vatican Is Trying To Subdue A Growing Feud Between Cardinals!!!
NK starts the war on March 11th.

Conclave is on 12th.No Pope will be elected on that day.

Due to the NK/SK war engulfing Japan and US, the Pope will be NOMINATED, not elected, will be a black Pope and his name will be Peter the Roman.


Here, the prophecies will become true.

It doesn't matter if the Rotch's or Illumi's will want this, the conclusion is the same.

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If you take the date and the time 12:03 pm

12th March / 2013 / 12:03 pm

then add the numbers in each section

you get

6 / 6 / 6
 Quoting: volare


POPE = 52 simple gematria
DEVIL = 52 simple gematria

Using biblical / old english gematria both of those are
312 (from 52 x 6)
giving us 3/12
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NK starts the war on March 11th.

Conclave is on 12th.No Pope will be elected on that day.

Due to the NK/SK war engulfing Japan and US, the Pope will be NOMINATED, not elected, will be a black Pope and his name will be Peter the Roman.


Here, the prophecies will become true.

It doesn't matter if the Rotch's or Illumi's will want this, the conclusion is the same.
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damned

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