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| IAMIAM User ID: 18016289 United States03/11/2013 01:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is this like a Jane Fonda work out or something? Not sure I understand... |
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| IAMIAM User ID: 18016289 United States03/11/2013 01:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im not familiar w/ jane fonda. Its exercises are classified as Qigong and qigong is usually considered kin to yoga or something. They promote good health. Oh ok. Now why would the commies in china care about their people doing something akin to yoga? Where does it rub the regime wrong in it's practice? Last Edited by IAMIAM on 03/11/2013 01:17 AM |
| FalunDafa (OP) User ID: 26573390 United States03/11/2013 01:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im not familiar w/ jane fonda. Its exercises are classified as Qigong and qigong is usually considered kin to yoga or something. They promote good health. Oh ok. Now why would the commies in china care about their people doing something akin to yoga? Where does it rub the regime wrong in it's practice? When Falun Dafa became public it became very popular very fast in China and the CCP viewed this almost like a threat to their power and banned Falun Dafa. Practitioners began doing peaceful protests and things like that outside of CCP controlled places asking for the freedom to practice and the CCP answered w/ the persecution. Thats really their only reason... TruthCompassionForbearance |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35769388  Australia03/11/2013 01:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im not familiar w/ jane fonda. Its exercises are classified as Qigong and qigong is usually considered kin to yoga or something. They promote good health. Oh ok. Now why would the commies in china care about their people doing something akin to yoga? Where does it rub the regime wrong in it's practice? When Falun Dafa became public it became very popular very fast in China and the CCP viewed this almost like a threat to their power and banned Falun Dafa. Practitioners began doing peaceful protests and things like that outside of CCP controlled places asking for the freedom to practice and the CCP answered w/ the persecution. Thats really their only reason... so why don't you use a bit of common sense and say "No we ain't doing falungong, this is qigong!!!"??? qigong isn't being persecuted is it? |
| IAMIAM User ID: 18016289 United States03/11/2013 01:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im not familiar w/ jane fonda. Its exercises are classified as Qigong and qigong is usually considered kin to yoga or something. They promote good health. Oh ok. Now why would the commies in china care about their people doing something akin to yoga? Where does it rub the regime wrong in it's practice? When Falun Dafa became public it became very popular very fast in China and the CCP viewed this almost like a threat to their power and banned Falun Dafa. Practitioners began doing peaceful protests and things like that outside of CCP controlled places asking for the freedom to practice and the CCP answered w/ the persecution. Thats really their only reason... So Falun Dafa spread like wild fire because everyone became limber and happy. The CCP saw this limberness and happiness as a threat so they banned it. People protested not being able to get their stretching fix. CCP replied with persecution... China is one screwed up place. It is understandable as they are a communist giant taking on a fascist giant the USA which has been beating them silly for years. This tends to make regimes intolerant of freedom because in a state of war, you do not want your people to be free, you want them disciplined and hardened, which also leads to misery and angst. Nevertheless, I would imagine that Falun Dafu has some kind of Master which is teaching more than just how to be stretchy and happy. I imagine this Master has probably been elevated to a god-like status, because he who makes the miserable happy, becomes god-like to the masses. He most likely does not have students, but rather disciples. Which is quite different in the amount of devotion shown. Having this status would make him an enemy of the state of course because you cannot have two roosters in the hen house. Are you familiar with the one who started the movement on a personal level? And is my intuition an accurate portrayal of the situation? Last Edited by IAMIAM on 03/11/2013 01:39 AM |
| FalunDafa (OP) User ID: 26573390 United States03/11/2013 01:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: FalunDafa Im not familiar w/ jane fonda. Its exercises are classified as Qigong and qigong is usually considered kin to yoga or something. They promote good health. Oh ok. Now why would the commies in china care about their people doing something akin to yoga? Where does it rub the regime wrong in it's practice? When Falun Dafa became public it became very popular very fast in China and the CCP viewed this almost like a threat to their power and banned Falun Dafa. Practitioners began doing peaceful protests and things like that outside of CCP controlled places asking for the freedom to practice and the CCP answered w/ the persecution. Thats really their only reason... so why don't you use a bit of common sense and say "No we ain't doing falungong, this is qigong!!!"??? qigong isn't being persecuted is it? Lol. We could do that, but we try to make everyone aware of Falun Dafa in order to give them a chance to learn. By giving up our name out of fear, Falun Dafa would get lost among the countless other qigong practices and people wouldnt have a chance to benefit from it. We'd rather be granted the right to practice freely and openly. And even if we changed our name, we'd still be the same practice with the same exercises and principles. This would only be a temporary solution as the CCP would eventually catch on and continue the persecution. TruthCompassionForbearance |
| FalunDafa (OP) User ID: 26573390 United States03/11/2013 01:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: FalunDafa Im not familiar w/ jane fonda. Its exercises are classified as Qigong and qigong is usually considered kin to yoga or something. They promote good health. Oh ok. Now why would the commies in china care about their people doing something akin to yoga? Where does it rub the regime wrong in it's practice? When Falun Dafa became public it became very popular very fast in China and the CCP viewed this almost like a threat to their power and banned Falun Dafa. Practitioners began doing peaceful protests and things like that outside of CCP controlled places asking for the freedom to practice and the CCP answered w/ the persecution. Thats really their only reason... So Falun Dafa spread like wild fire because everyone became limber and happy. The CCP saw this limberness and happiness as a threat so they banned it. People protested not being able to get their stretching fix. CCP replied with persecution... China is one screwed up place. It is understandable as they are a communist giant taking on a fascist giant the USA which has been beating them silly for years. This tends to make regimes intolerant of freedom because in a state of war, you do not want your people to be free, you want them disciplined and hardened, which also leads to misery and angst. Nevertheless, I would imagine that Falun Dafu has some kind of Master which is teaching more than just how to be stretchy and happy. I imagine this Master has probably been elevated to a god-like status, because he who makes the miserable happy, becomes god-like to the masses. He most likely does not have students, but rather disciples. Which is quite different in the amount of devotion shown. Having this status would make him an enemy of the state of course because you cannot have two roosters in the hen house. Are you familiar with the one who started the movement on a personal level? And is my intuition an accurate portrayal of the situation? Pretty accurate I think. There is a master in Falun Gong, Master Li Hongzhi. And we do consider ourself desciples. But even though desciples have a very high magnitude of respect for Master Li, he is against practitioners thinking of him as a god and doesnt require worship or any type of religious formality of that sort. TruthCompassionForbearance |
| IAMIAM User ID: 18016289 United States03/11/2013 01:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pretty accurate I think. There is a master in Falun Gong, Master Li Hongzhi. And we do consider ourself desciples. But even though desciples have a very high magnitude of respect for Master Li, he is against practitioners thinking of him as a god and doesnt require worship or any type of religious formality of that sort. Quoting: FalunDafa It doesn't matter what the followers consider this Master. If you attract a large enough group, you are a threat to the status quo. I'll send my blessing his way. Thanks for the info. |
| FalunDafa (OP) User ID: 26573390 United States03/11/2013 01:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pretty accurate I think. There is a master in Falun Gong, Master Li Hongzhi. And we do consider ourself desciples. But even though desciples have a very high magnitude of respect for Master Li, he is against practitioners thinking of him as a god and doesnt require worship or any type of religious formality of that sort. Quoting: FalunDafa It doesn't matter what the followers consider this Master. If you attract a large enough group, you are a threat to the status quo. I'll send my blessing his way. Thanks for the info. I completely agree. And thank you for taking the time to learn!  TruthCompassionForbearance |
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| Zhu Bajie User ID: 17024290  China03/11/2013 06:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh ok. Now why would the commies in china care about their people doing something akin to yoga? Where does it rub the regime wrong in it's practice? Chinese cults have often started civil wars, killed large numbers of people, etc. The most famous examples in recent history is the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom, mid 1800s, which killed perhaps 20 million people, and the Boxers, around 1900, attempted to kill all the foreigners in China. The Taipings were perhaps the weirdest Christian cult of all time. Their founder/leader claimed to be the younger brother of Jesus! With all kinds of whacky revelations, etc. |
| FalunDafa (OP) User ID: 26573390 United States03/11/2013 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh ok. Now why would the commies in china care about their people doing something akin to yoga? Where does it rub the regime wrong in it's practice? Chinese cults have often started civil wars, killed large numbers of people, etc. The most famous examples in recent history is the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom, mid 1800s, which killed perhaps 20 million people, and the Boxers, around 1900, attempted to kill all the foreigners in China. The Taipings were perhaps the weirdest Christian cult of all time. Their founder/leader claimed to be the younger brother of Jesus! With all kinds of whacky revelations, etc. Are there some acts of violence committed by (real) Falun Dafa practitioners that I've overlooked? TruthCompassionForbearance |
| FalunDafa (OP) User ID: 26573390 United States03/11/2013 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh ok. Quoting: IAMIAM Now why would the commies in china care about their people doing something akin to yoga? Where does it rub the regime wrong in it's practice? Chinese cults have often started civil wars, killed large numbers of people, etc. The most famous examples in recent history is the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom, mid 1800s, which killed perhaps 20 million people, and the Boxers, around 1900, attempted to kill all the foreigners in China. The Taipings were perhaps the weirdest Christian cult of all time. Their founder/leader claimed to be the younger brother of Jesus! With all kinds of whacky revelations, etc. Are there some acts of violence committed by (real) Falun Dafa practitioners that I've overlooked? TruthCompassionForbearance |
| IAMIAM User ID: 18016289 United States03/13/2013 01:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pretty accurate I think. There is a master in Falun Gong, Master Li Hongzhi. And we do consider ourself desciples. But even though desciples have a very high magnitude of respect for Master Li, he is against practitioners thinking of him as a god and doesnt require worship or any type of religious formality of that sort. Quoting: FalunDafa It doesn't matter what the followers consider this Master. If you attract a large enough group, you are a threat to the status quo. I'll send my blessing his way. Thanks for the info. Here is a sign of my blessing my friend. Thread: China pulls nearly 6,000 dead pigs from Shanghai river Two birds with one Stone. Thread: a Plague of Pigs (wild, ferrel) Last Edited by IAMIAM on 03/13/2013 01:49 AM |
| artemis133 User ID: 27576802 United States03/13/2013 02:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the 90's, when I lived in Delaware, I attended a Falun Dafa class. I enjoyed it very much, but didn't continue the practice. I still have my copy of Zhuan Falun, and my tape of the exercises. However, I am a Buddhist, and the beliefs I practice are very similar to those of Falun Gong. It's horrible what the Chinese gov't is doing to the practitioners of this, and yes, it's because it challenged the supreme power of the Chinese Communist government. I've been to the website and seen pictures of what is being done to the practitioners. It's a positive practice and helpful for centering and grounding. Crazy cat lady in training... "Society always honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers" ~Mignon McLaughlin "The lost child, crying, crying, but still catching the fireflies." ~Ryusui "Oh, yeah, life goes on, even after the thrill of livin' is gone..."~John Mellencamp |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14516845 United States03/13/2013 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I practiced Falun Dafa for a while, and I must say it did more for my mind and body than any other routine I've ever tried. Many aches and pains I thought were chronic cleared up and it even changed the way I walk and stand. Eventually I strayed away from the practice, partly from laziness I admit, but I was also quite disturbed by the political ramifications of the practice. Although I felt that Li Hongzhi's teachings have validity, I began to realize they promoted an "us against them" mentality that automatically rings my alarms. Through the years I have recommended Falun Gong to many people and taught them the basic moves. But I always caution them to take the "propaganda" with a grain of salt and avoid the cult-like aspects of the teachings. So, my thanks for bringing up the subject and I hope some of the readers will give the exercises a try, they really do create significant changes in your body. But do beware of the surrounding hype, it unfortunately is not as healthy and beneficial to the spirit... |
| Could GET IT Wright? User ID: 1351603 United States03/13/2013 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Climax Blues Band - Couldn't Get It Wright [link to www.youtube.com] Satellite - Dave Matthews [link to www.youtube.com] 23:59. Why? Fuck Yeah, all the best "MELT" downs happen at that time. Chicago pile one. Or all your "dills" are mine. Ulam? 300 freaking million of them. Brilliant! Pepples! Whateva. Nuclear Weapons in Movies? (All mine) Nuclear Themes in Popular Culture (All mine) But hay there Demolay your Suicide Game all Anglican Style was worth the sacrifice of legitimate aerospace, being in peoples bedrooms for priests to masterbate was more important. Well allwrongy then. Times up. |
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| FalunDafa (OP) User ID: 26573390 United States03/13/2013 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I practiced Falun Dafa for a while, and I must say it did more for my mind and body than any other routine I've ever tried. Many aches and pains I thought were chronic cleared up and it even changed the way I walk and stand. Eventually I strayed away from the practice, partly from laziness I admit, but I was also quite disturbed by the political ramifications of the practice. Although I felt that Li Hongzhi's teachings have validity, I began to realize they promoted an "us against them" mentality that automatically rings my alarms. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14516845 Through the years I have recommended Falun Gong to many people and taught them the basic moves. But I always caution them to take the "propaganda" with a grain of salt and avoid the cult-like aspects of the teachings. So, my thanks for bringing up the subject and I hope some of the readers will give the exercises a try, they really do create significant changes in your body. But do beware of the surrounding hype, it unfortunately is not as healthy and beneficial to the spirit... I agree, the exercises do have a very good effect. I also see where you're coming from w/ the whole 'us against them' thing. Although practitioners don't get envolved in politics or things of that manner, I can certainly see how some things could be interpreted as such. TruthCompassionForbearance |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35285283  United Kingdom03/13/2013 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh ok. Now why would the commies in china care about their people doing something akin to yoga? Where does it rub the regime wrong in it's practice? Chinese cults have often started civil wars, killed large numbers of people, etc. The most famous examples in recent history is the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom, mid 1800s, which killed perhaps 20 million people, and the Boxers, around 1900, attempted to kill all the foreigners in China. The Taipings were perhaps the weirdest Christian cult of all time. Their founder/leader claimed to be the younger brother of Jesus! With all kinds of whacky revelations, etc. Are there some acts of violence committed by (real) Falun Dafa practitioners that I've overlooked? It wasn't violent, as such, but April 25th 1999, when Falun Gong surrounded the Zhongnanhai leaders' compound, did wind up Jiang Zemin.  |
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| FalunDafa (OP) User ID: 26573390 United States03/13/2013 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pretty accurate I think. There is a master in Falun Gong, Master Li Hongzhi. And we do consider ourself desciples. But even though desciples have a very high magnitude of respect for Master Li, he is against practitioners thinking of him as a god and doesnt require worship or any type of religious formality of that sort. Quoting: FalunDafa It doesn't matter what the followers consider this Master. If you attract a large enough group, you are a threat to the status quo. I'll send my blessing his way. Thanks for the info. Here is a sign of my blessing my friend. Thread: China pulls nearly 6,000 dead pigs from Shanghai river Two birds with one Stone. Thread: a Plague of Pigs (wild, ferrel) Im sorry, I don't understand. Dead pigs is a blessing? TruthCompassionForbearance |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1711362  Canada03/13/2013 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im not familiar w/ jane fonda. Its exercises are classified as Qigong and qigong is usually considered kin to yoga or something. They promote good health. Oh ok. Now why would the commies in china care about their people doing something akin to yoga? Where does it rub the regime wrong in it's practice? When Falun Dafa became public it became very popular very fast in China and the CCP viewed this almost like a threat to their power and banned Falun Dafa. Practitioners began doing peaceful protests and things like that outside of CCP controlled places asking for the freedom to practice and the CCP answered w/ the persecution. Thats really their only reason... I've heard of Falun Dafa. Saw the protesters in Manhattan as well. My question is, why dont they just do the exercises inside their homes? Its not like the government is watching you do stuff inside your home in China. So why make such a fuss about it that gov find out? Just do it inside and be as flexible and enlightened ad you want! :D  |
| FalunDafa (OP) User ID: 26573390 United States03/13/2013 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: FalunDafa Im not familiar w/ jane fonda. Its exercises are classified as Qigong and qigong is usually considered kin to yoga or something. They promote good health. Oh ok. Now why would the commies in china care about their people doing something akin to yoga? Where does it rub the regime wrong in it's practice? When Falun Dafa became public it became very popular very fast in China and the CCP viewed this almost like a threat to their power and banned Falun Dafa. Practitioners began doing peaceful protests and things like that outside of CCP controlled places asking for the freedom to practice and the CCP answered w/ the persecution. Thats really their only reason... I've heard of Falun Dafa. Saw the protesters in Manhattan as well. My question is, why dont they just do the exercises inside their homes? Its not like the government is watching you do stuff inside your home in China. So why make such a fuss about it that gov find out? Just do it inside and be as flexible and enlightened ad you want! :D While doing the exercise in public, it also serves the purpose of spreading the practice. Practicing in a group also gives practitioners an opportunity to share their personal experiences with Falun Dafa which can help others to see their possible flaws and work on them. TruthCompassionForbearance |
| maximnli User ID: 36120210 United States03/13/2013 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have practiced before--never long enough--perhaps this thread will get me to begin again, so thanks for that... Mr. Li stated in a video that people who attended his seminars received a type cultivation that he placed in the abdomen. And that once the spinning starts it continues. Does this imply that one needs to be in his presence to receive the cultivation of the Fa? It's been over a year, so I may be stating things wrong. |
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| FalunDafa (OP) User ID: 26573390 United States03/17/2013 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have practiced before--never long enough--perhaps this thread will get me to begin again, so thanks for that... Quoting: maximnli 36120210 Mr. Li stated in a video that people who attended his seminars received a type cultivation that he placed in the abdomen. And that once the spinning starts it continues. Does this imply that one needs to be in his presence to receive the cultivation of the Fa? It's been over a year, so I may be stating things wrong. No, Master Li says that all true practitioners get it. Dont focus too hard on getting it though. If you let it become an attachment that could be stopping you from getting it. TruthCompassionForbearance |
