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G-Money (OP) User ID: 30612118 China 03/13/2013 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Some bullets struck three cars in the parking lot, and police originally investigated the theory that he was shooting at responding officers. They now believe that he was aiming at a teacher who was standing near the window." [link to www.courant.com] |
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G-Man (OP) User ID: 30612118 China 03/13/2013 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Korean man, I see you are the Sandy Hook shill designate this month. You try to put words in my mouth. I simply point out conflicting details in report after report from local media. You think Lanza squeezed off 152 rounds in 5 minutes? Changing clips often? Hitting 28 and killing 26? Not likely. Of course, surveillance video would put all the speculation to rest, wouldn't it?? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5331384 Canada 03/13/2013 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BS. I suppose this is their flimsy excuse as to why the shooter bypassed her classroom? Seriously?? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5331384 Canada 03/13/2013 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | @Anon. Girl Quoting: G-Dawg 30612118 LOL the good old black construction paper saved the day! I wonder why it took them so long to come up with that. First I've heard about a lockdown drill the week before. Not that they're that rare, but... And we're also supposed to believe that the principal, a custodian, a fellow teacher or even a student in the "weeks" after the previous drill wouldn't have removed the paper. Mmhmm. |
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Emlapal User ID: 30657134 United States 03/13/2013 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At what point then did Lanza supposedly open the door to the nurses office? Where is the nurses office in regard to the rest of the layout? And boy, what a "heroic" nurse; all those years of studying and training and practicing her chosen profession only to hide in a closet for four hours when she could have taken a chance and left her safe little closet and tried to save one poor helpless child. She should be ashamed of herself or have shown some bit of remorse in her interview with George Streptococis about not even trying but did she? Hell no! If my kid went to the new Sandy Hook school I wouldn't! Let her within a hundred yards of my kid. But, as we all know, the people of Sandy Hook react a little different than most. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35851256 South Korea 03/13/2013 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Korean man, Quoting: G-Man 30612118 I see you are the Sandy Hook shill designate this month. You try to put words in my mouth. I simply point out conflicting details in report after report from local media. You think Lanza squeezed off 152 rounds in 5 minutes? Changing clips often? Hitting 28 and killing 26? Not likely. Of course, surveillance video would put all the speculation to rest, wouldn't it?? Yes I can do that many rounds that quick against easy targets, and I could do it easily. I can shoot 30 rounds in under 10 seconds just firing. I can get off 30 rounds accurately in about 20 seconds against several targets and then mag changes are 5 sec or less. mag change- shooting.... *empty mag* -right index finger drops mag while left hand grabs fresh mag -insert fresh mag with left hand, slap bottom, and hit bolt release to load fresh round into chamber shoot In 5 minutes, I could get easily get off 300 rounds against targets accurately, if I had the loaded mags on me. That would be doing 2 mags/minute. I could squeeze off a whole lot more than that if I wasnt being as accurate. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35851256 South Korea 03/13/2013 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At what point then did Lanza supposedly open the door to the nurses office? Where is the nurses office in regard to the rest of the layout? Quoting: Emlapal 30657134 And boy, what a "heroic" nurse; all those years of studying and training and practicing her chosen profession only to hide in a closet for four hours when she could have taken a chance and left her safe little closet and tried to save one poor helpless child. She should be ashamed of herself or have shown some bit of remorse in her interview with George Streptococis about not even trying but did she? Hell no! If my kid went to the new Sandy Hook school I wouldn't! Let her within a hundred yards of my kid. But, as we all know, the people of Sandy Hook react a little different than most. Nurses arent combat medics, nor are they expected to be. Her hiding for that long is odd though. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35851256 South Korea 03/13/2013 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Korean man, Quoting: G-Man 30612118 I see you are the Sandy Hook shill designate this month. You try to put words in my mouth. I simply point out conflicting details in report after report from local media. You think Lanza squeezed off 152 rounds in 5 minutes? Changing clips often? Hitting 28 and killing 26? Not likely. Of course, surveillance video would put all the speculation to rest, wouldn't it?? Yes I can do that many rounds that quick against easy targets, and I could do it easily. I can shoot 30 rounds in under 10 seconds just firing. I can get off 30 rounds accurately in about 20 seconds against several targets and then mag changes are 5 sec or less. mag change- shooting.... *empty mag* -right index finger drops mag while left hand grabs fresh mag -insert fresh mag with left hand, slap bottom, and hit bolt release to load fresh round into chamber shoot In 5 minutes, I could get easily get off 300 rounds against targets accurately, if I had the loaded mags on me. That would be doing 2 mags/minute. I could squeeze off a whole lot more than that if I wasnt being as accurate. ps. and Im only average. A god shooter could do even better. Theres plenty of vids on youtube of people shooting AR's with mag changes if anyone needs pruf. |
I, Gladius (OP) User ID: 30612118 China 03/13/2013 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Korean poster, It would have been quite loud, right? Firing 150+ rounds indoors? i would think the noise would reverberate throughout the school. Odd that the article below mentions students in the building hearing the gunfire "over the intercom". [link to www.ctpost.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14408911 United States 03/13/2013 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At what point then did Lanza supposedly open the door to the nurses office? Where is the nurses office in regard to the rest of the layout? Quoting: Emlapal 30657134 And boy, what a "heroic" nurse; all those years of studying and training and practicing her chosen profession only to hide in a closet for four hours when she could have taken a chance and left her safe little closet and tried to save one poor helpless child. She should be ashamed of herself or have shown some bit of remorse in her interview with George Streptococis about not even trying but did she? Hell no! If my kid went to the new Sandy Hook school I wouldn't! Let her within a hundred yards of my kid. But, as we all know, the people of Sandy Hook react a little different than most. Nurses arent combat medics, nor are they expected to be. Her hiding for that long is odd though. Coward is the main word that comes to mind. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5331384 Canada 03/13/2013 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know it's been insinuated that Adam and Nancy spent lots of time at the range target shooting, but I have yet to see any confirmation Lanza visiting any firing ranges. Quoting: Adio-Glay 30612118 And does it really make much sense that a mother worried about the mental state of her child would bring that child to a firing range to practice shooting guns at targets? And allow him to lock himself up in a basement with blacked out windows 24/7 to play violent video games? And keep guns in her home? |
His Eminence, G-l-a-d-ee-o (OP) User ID: 30612118 China 03/13/2013 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.courant.com] "Sources said that the two teachers who were injured were hit by ricochet bullets from that initial burst of gunfire. One teacher was in the meeting room with Hochsprung and Scherlach and was hit in the leg and crawled back into the room and called 911. The second teacher was closing the door to her classroom much farther down the hallway, where Lanza never went, when she was hit in the foot." Hammond called 9-11? Wasn't there another lady w/ the nurse who called 9-11? Any others? |
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G-Money (OP) User ID: 30612118 China 03/13/2013 07:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With regard to the 150+ rounds in 5 minutes: This was a semi-automatic weapon, whiche means the trigger must be pulled for each shot. It's not like you pull once and a spray of bullets come out, unless fully automatic, or modified in some way. I would like to know if it was. The key thing is the accuracy. 28 shot, 26 killed. 3+ shots per victim. One girl completely unscathed in a room where 17 others, kids and adults, all killed and shot multiple times. It's been said by Vance that Lanza had hundreds more unused rounds on him. Plus two hand guns. That's a lot of bulk for the rail-thin Lanza. At what firing range did he hone his skills? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35851256 South Korea 03/13/2013 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With regard to the 150+ rounds in 5 minutes: Quoting: G-Money 30612118 This was a semi-automatic weapon, whiche means the trigger must be pulled for each shot. It's not like you pull once and a spray of bullets come out, unless fully automatic, or modified in some way. I would like to know if it was. The key thing is the accuracy. 28 shot, 26 killed. 3+ shots per victim. One girl completely unscathed in a room where 17 others, kids and adults, all killed and shot multiple times. It's been said by Vance that Lanza had hundreds more unused rounds on him. Plus two hand guns. That's a lot of bulk for the rail-thin Lanza. At what firing range did he hone his skills? Yes, with my times I was referring to semi-auto mode also. I havent heard but I'm assuming he had semi-auto only. As far as accuracy under fire that fast- Its not that hard to shoot an AR accurately and fast at a few meters. I havent heard what the firing distance was, but I bet its less than 3 meters for most victims. You can almost do that accurately without even aiming with an AR. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35851256 South Korea 03/13/2013 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here ya go. 300 rounds from a semi-auto AR in a little over 2 minutes, using the sight. [link to www.youtube.com] Of course, Adam had to move into the office and then into classrooms and aim at different targets, which would have slowed him down a little. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35851256 South Korea 03/13/2013 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One of the problems with citing unnamed sources, as the Courant does routinely, is that they can just make shit up and who's going to call them on it? Quoting: G-Man 30612118 Thats true. This is one of those "sources close to the investigation" so it could be true or false, or even entrely fabricated |
Stickywicket User ID: 33865391 Canada 03/13/2013 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unbelievable.. Quoting: Glaaad-eee-ooo 30612118 [link to www.courant.com] Among the details in the article: -Lanza fired 152 rounds in less than 5 minutes -Police found articles in his room about other mass murders. This one makes me laugh. Newspaper clippings? Who does that anymore? Oh yeah, crazy people. I love how he leaves behing the articles, yet destroys his hard drive. Ya. -Finally get to hear about the OTHER WOUNDED ADULT (not Natalie Hammond) Not named, however. -The blood covered girl from Rousseau's room? Ran out on her own accord, not escorted out by Officer Chapman as NY Times claims. [link to www.nytimes.com] -The number of kids hiding in Soto's closet has gone from 7 to 5. Give the Courant article a read. See what other confounding discrepancies you find. Thanks for the article, G-Man. "Sources said that the two teachers who were injured were hit by ricochet bullets from that initial burst of gunfire. One teacher was in the meeting room with Hochsprung and Scherlach and was hit in the leg and crawled back into the room and called 911. The second teacher was closing the door to her classroom much farther down the hallway, where Lanza never went, when she was hit in the foot." The first teacher mentioned would have been Natalie Hammond. This DIRECTLY contradicts volunteer Red Cross worker Nancy Young, who said Hammond was shot 4 times on the left side of her body trying to block the door to the meeting room. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35935384 United States 03/13/2013 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One of the problems with citing unnamed sources, as the Courant does routinely, is that they can just make shit up and who's going to call them on it? Quoting: G-Man 30612118 Nobody will call them on it. ALL media deceives you daily. MOST media "stories" are FABRICATED. They create your reality for you, with their daily "circus". |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11360402 United States 03/13/2013 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | States' Attorney says whitewash-- uh,I mean, final report, should be ready by June. Quoting: G-Man 30612118 Your Calling The Danbury State's Attorney Stephen Sedensky a Liar. How The Fuck can you use a computer for your investigation and Then come to these Outrageous conclusions?? Why Don't you just GO there and Do a thorough investigation,Ask The State Attorney for a Statement and report your findings?? Otherwise Your just making Shit up. |
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Stickywicket User ID: 33865391 Canada 03/13/2013 08:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unbelievable.. Quoting: Glaaad-eee-ooo 30612118 [link to www.courant.com] Among the details in the article: -Lanza fired 152 rounds in less than 5 minutes -Police found articles in his room about other mass murders. This one makes me laugh. Newspaper clippings? Who does that anymore? Oh yeah, crazy people. I love how he leaves behing the articles, yet destroys his hard drive. Ya. -Finally get to hear about the OTHER WOUNDED ADULT (not Natalie Hammond) Not named, however. -The blood covered girl from Rousseau's room? Ran out on her own accord, not escorted out by Officer Chapman as NY Times claims. [link to www.nytimes.com] -The number of kids hiding in Soto's closet has gone from 7 to 5. Give the Courant article a read. See what other confounding discrepancies you find. Just for the record, it was Officer Penna that escorted the bloody but uninjured child out of the school. We still have the problem of one media source contradicting another. |
Phylax User ID: 31177572 United States 03/13/2013 08:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Some bullets struck three cars in the parking lot, and police originally investigated the theory that he was shooting at responding officers. They now believe that he was aiming at a teacher who was standing near the window." Quoting: G-Money 30612118 [link to www.courant.com] What about the bullet that was shot from inside Rousseau's car? Last Edited by Phylax on 03/13/2013 08:17 PM |