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"My Amityville" documentary. George Lutz-a Long Island luciferian/illuminati linked/related to Defeo? Family Op just like Sandy Hook? | |
Anubis  User ID: 35369805  Canada03/16/2013 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "My Amityville" documentary. George Lutz-a Long Island luciferian/illuminati linked/related to Defeo? Family Op just like Sandy Hook? Well people, what we see here -- about Butch Defeo and family being killed with mind control is the same as when Michael Aquino hunted down the California social worker investigating him in the McMartin case. Who when captured by the Temple of Set was then made crazy and seen stalking Jennifer Love Hewitt and Spielberg. Satanists employed as University professors were estatic as the social worker caused them problems as Mexicans almost beheaded one of the Satanist in Mexico. The social worker: Diana Napolis, aka curio. She now is schizo and describes a false, holographic sky. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15416946 There was a old youtube video where temple of set minions bragged about catching her in a community college computer lab. there footage was used here: here are the two that caught her, [link to www.youtube.com] but their video bragging has been scrubbed. the black woman is also a dangerous computer hacker, some have speculated is in Aquino's NSA and part of Obama's cyber warrior program. But anyway, the Mind Wars psychotronic warfare stuff is real that TI's report. The Interesting Case Of Diana Napolis -- Mind Control Target -- The Criminal Use Of Directed Energy Weapons To Destroy The Astral Body Of The Target? [link to 9-11themotherofallblackoperations.blogspot.ca] Last Edited by Anubis on 03/16/2013 04:05 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36305902  United States03/16/2013 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "My Amityville" documentary. George Lutz-a Long Island luciferian/illuminati linked/related to Defeo? Family Op just like Sandy Hook? Was the house haunted? If you live in Amityville it is not the only house that was haunted. When you live in one of these houses you have to give the spirits space. There might be a rocking chair in the attic or some other object that you know is theirs and you respect that and don't move it. Living with spirits in your house is not all bad. They will protect you if you understand they were there before you and will be there after you. |
| Anubis User ID: 35369805 Canada03/16/2013 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "My Amityville" documentary. George Lutz-a Long Island luciferian/illuminati linked/related to Defeo? Family Op just like Sandy Hook? Was the house haunted? If you live in Amityville it is not the only house that was haunted. When you live in one of these houses you have to give the spirits space. There might be a rocking chair in the attic or some other object that you know is theirs and you respect that and don't move it. Living with spirits in your house is not all bad. They will protect you if you understand they were there before you and will be there after you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36305902 this. when i was a kid we lived in a house with a poltergeist. very mischievous. it liked to move things off shelves and pile things in the middle of the room. im pretty sure my mother caused the problem she liked to use ouija boards back then. it was the 70's |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24376028 United States03/16/2013 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "My Amityville" documentary. George Lutz-a Long Island luciferian/illuminati linked/related to Defeo? Family Op just like Sandy Hook? I was connecting Diana Napolis with the last post on the page before that shows the Defeo family was targeted with mind control because of not wanting the info about the mental institute and mind control stuff leaked. So they zapped their guy -- and made Butch kill. Diana was a social worker and is a hero that went after Aquino, because she knew to have 60 something kids around age 10 name the guy and have STD's and the kids at Boystown say same name -- Aquino, as well others in the Nebraska Boys Town case, and describe mansions, even some in DC is a slam dunk in family court. But the govt created the false memory syndrome center and diagnosis and swept it under the rug and said the 80's was a Satanic witch hunt. Youtube the Aquino videos on Oprah and Geraldo, and look at that video embedded above to see the MSM lies. |
| SPIRAL COBRA User ID: 31304533  Mexico03/16/2013 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "My Amityville" documentary. George Lutz-a Long Island luciferian/illuminati linked/related to Defeo? Family Op just like Sandy Hook? Oh Shit! About 3 nights ago had a nightmare about this house. Woke up in the middle of the night freaked out and woke my husband up to hold me. Had no idea about this new film, and had no thoughts about this place... The nightmare just came out from nowhere.  "Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure that you are not, in fact, just surrounded by assholes." William Gibson |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21291600 United States03/16/2013 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "My Amityville" documentary. George Lutz-a Long Island luciferian/illuminati linked/related to Defeo? Family Op just like Sandy Hook? sorry if i missed parts of the thread, but i know from first hand knowledge that the defeo murders were not supernatural. Ronnie made up allot of different stories over the years to try to get himself out of prison. look through case files, the story changed everytime there was a parole hearing or appeal. I could go into details but everyone would just call me a shill. the defeo family had links to the mob. ronnie was always blasted on herion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33958965 The story he told was that his sister dawn wanted to go to florida with friends, daddy wouldnt let her, she shot up her family, ronnie discovered what dawn did, got the marlin rifle from her and shot her. the way i figure it, is daddy found out ronnie was stealing money from the car lot his daddy ran. and ronnie was stealing money to support is addiction. probably some altercation happened between ronnie and his dad before the murders took place. the whole case was shuffled through the court system because of the mob ties the defeo's had. can anyone say payoffs.. the lutz family is all bs , he was just trying to sell books and make money on a tragedy. look into their history before and after the house on ocean dr. as far as the illuminati link, i dont know about the lutz that much, i just know about the defeo murders. i hear ya. but, if there are murders going on, then their are dark entities involved. period, end of sentence. yeah you could say darkness involved for sure. any murder would be dark. Not arguing that point. But the night of the murder it was all ronnie. he was living on the wrong path and made bad decisions. drugs definitely took his mind in the wrong direction. but to my knowledge ronnie didnt have a part of any luciferian operation that made him do what he did. Drugs mess with your mind and take you to places you dont need to go. besides im sure growing up in the defeo family would have negative effects on ones soul. they had definite mob links. ask anyone that lived in that area during that time. The lutz on the other hand may have illuminati connections, they were definitely into some dark shit. but they had no connections to the defeo family except they bought the house on ocean ave. as far as my knowledge anyways. not convinced it was all ronnie either. the entire family was face down, nobody heard a shot, nobody woke up or moved. something is very wrong somewhere. |
| Anubis User ID: 35369805 Canada03/16/2013 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "My Amityville" documentary. George Lutz-a Long Island luciferian/illuminati linked/related to Defeo? Family Op just like Sandy Hook? it wasn't all ronnie.. he was the mind controlled stooge. it was a ritual sacrifice. Last Edited by Anubis on 03/16/2013 04:40 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36005333 United States03/16/2013 04:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "My Amityville" documentary. George Lutz-a Long Island luciferian/illuminati linked/related to Defeo? Family Op just like Sandy Hook? The whole thing was fabricated, probably so the Lutzes (Clutzes) could escape a mortgage they didn't want to pay, and make money on a book and movie. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36005333 wtf?? no it wasn't dude. shills need to read the thread before spamming bullcrap. in court you dude's would suck. Evil spirits are only fantasy, only in the imagination. |
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| Anubis User ID: 35369805 Canada03/16/2013 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "My Amityville" documentary. George Lutz-a Long Island luciferian/illuminati linked/related to Defeo? Family Op just like Sandy Hook? The whole thing was fabricated, probably so the Lutzes (Clutzes) could escape a mortgage they didn't want to pay, and make money on a book and movie. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36005333 wtf?? no it wasn't dude. shills need to read the thread before spamming bullcrap. in court you dude's would suck. Evil spirits are only fantasy, only in the imagination. surely you are joking. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22334 United States03/16/2013 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "My Amityville" documentary. George Lutz-a Long Island luciferian/illuminati linked/related to Defeo? Family Op just like Sandy Hook? Was the house haunted? If you live in Amityville it is not the only house that was haunted. When you live in one of these houses you have to give the spirits space. There might be a rocking chair in the attic or some other object that you know is theirs and you respect that and don't move it. Living with spirits in your house is not all bad. They will protect you if you understand they were there before you and will be there after you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36305902 this. when i was a kid we lived in a house with a poltergeist. very mischievous. it liked to move things off shelves and pile things in the middle of the room. im pretty sure my mother caused the problem she liked to use ouija boards back then. it was the 70's Did you happen to live in Hampton,Va?  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22334 United States03/16/2013 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "My Amityville" documentary. George Lutz-a Long Island luciferian/illuminati linked/related to Defeo? Family Op just like Sandy Hook? The whole thing was fabricated, probably so the Lutzes (Clutzes) could escape a mortgage they didn't want to pay, and make money on a book and movie. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36005333 wtf?? no it wasn't dude. shills need to read the thread before spamming bullcrap. in court you dude's would suck. Evil spirits are only fantasy, only in the imagination.  |
| Anubis User ID: 35369805 Canada03/16/2013 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "My Amityville" documentary. George Lutz-a Long Island luciferian/illuminati linked/related to Defeo? Family Op just like Sandy Hook? Was the house haunted? If you live in Amityville it is not the only house that was haunted. When you live in one of these houses you have to give the spirits space. There might be a rocking chair in the attic or some other object that you know is theirs and you respect that and don't move it. Living with spirits in your house is not all bad. They will protect you if you understand they were there before you and will be there after you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36305902 this. when i was a kid we lived in a house with a poltergeist. very mischievous. it liked to move things off shelves and pile things in the middle of the room. im pretty sure my mother caused the problem she liked to use ouija boards back then. it was the 70's Did you happen to live in Hampton,Va? no, that was in calgary, alberta. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24376028 United States03/16/2013 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "My Amityville" documentary. George Lutz-a Long Island luciferian/illuminati linked/related to Defeo? Family Op just like Sandy Hook? Apparently Butch was a patient at Amityville Asylum where CIA mind control experiments were conducted. See last page. So Butch was a targeted Individual. Like these people: Thread: The GLP effect Hello, I’m writing to inform you that the Amityville Horror experienced by the Lutz family was a hoax created by a secret element of the United States government. The Lutz family did experience an extraordinary event but it was not a supernatural event. The United States government developed classified sonic harassment technology that can be used to trick people into believing their house is haunted. The technology produces a beam of sound (what can be described as a sonic laser) that will pass through walls of houses without causing any damage to the houses. The beam of sound can be audible (within human hearing range), ultrasonic (above the human hearing range), or infrasonic (below the human hearing range). This technology has existed since the 1950’s. A person attacked with this sonic harassment technology will experience any of the following: 1) Hearing voices or noises that no one else can hear. 2) Feeling the presence of a spirit or ghost. 3) Waking up at certain times of the night at regular intervals. 4) Bad dreams or nightmares. 5) Loud sounds that appear to come from rooms of a house. 6) Low frequency rumbling noises that appear to come from outside a house. 7) Jolts to limbs of the body The sonic harassment technology is operated from inside a neighboring house to a targeted household. The beam of sound generated by the sonic device will travel through the walls of each house without causing any damage to either house. A single person in the targeted household can be targeted or the entire family can be targeted one at a time. A person attacked by this technology can easily mistake what he is sensing as a supernatural experience when in fact its just technology used against him. The weapon is targeted by technology called through wall imaging technology. The imaging technology uses the body heat of the human body to generate images of people behind walls of a house. The imaging technology is like X-Ray vision. Targeting scopes have been developed that can accurately identify and target a person through a wall of a house. Agents of the secret government will covertly move into a neighboring house to the targeted household. The agents will conduct surveillance of the targeted household. The agents can electronically hear and see through walls of the targeted neighboring house. They will study the targeted family and learn how the family functions. The agents normally target families that are Christian with strong religious beliefs. Since all the classified technology is operated from inside the neighboring house, the targeted family will notice nothing out of the ordinary. After the agents finish the surveillance of the household, they will use the sonic harassment technology to trick the family into believing their house is haunted. They will use the sonic harassment technology to awake certain family members at regular intervals during the night. The technology can project audible sounds at a single person in a house. The agents can target the head of a targeted person while sleeping to create nightmares. Ultrasound passing through the skull bone at the top of the head can restrict blood flow in the brain causing strange dreams and hallucinations. Ultrasound passing through the legs can produce burning sensations in the legs. Jolts to limbs of the body can be produced by passing powerful ultrasonic bullets through the limbs of the body. Showing a person with ultrasound can create the sensation of feeling the presence of a spirit. Low frequency rumbling can be produced by powerful sonic projection technology. The secret government has developed an arsenal of these sonic harassment devices. Again none of this sonic devices used against a person is a targeted household leaves any physical evidence behind after an attack. What most people experience in these popular haunted house stories and possessions may in fact be classified sonic harassment technology being used against them from inside a neighboring house. It’s not supernatural but technology that has existed since the 1950’s. The most famous scene in the Amityville Horror is of a priest blessing a room of the house and hears a voice telling him to get out and then receives a slap to the face by an invisible force. This was not a supernatural entity but rather classified sonic harassment technology. Sonic projection technology is used to project the audible message “Get Out” and then an infrasonic bullet if fired into the side of the priest’s face. The priest is targeted with classified through wall imaging technology from a neighboring house. This will seem like a supernatural event to the priest but it’s only classified sonic harassment technology. The secret government of the United States has spent millions of dollars developing this technology. It is used for social engineering. Basically the secret government creates hoaxes across America. These hoaxes, such as haunted houses, distract attention of the American people. The secret government wishes to distract the attention of the American people from social issues. The secret government decided to use the DeFeo family tragedy to create a hoax by tricking the Lutz family into believing their house was haunted. Agents of the secret government gained access to a neighboring house to the Lutz’s house in Amityville and used the classified sonic harassment technology against them in 1975. For more information please go to this website: [link to www.hightechharassment.com] |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21291600 United States03/16/2013 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "My Amityville" documentary. George Lutz-a Long Island luciferian/illuminati linked/related to Defeo? Family Op just like Sandy Hook? WTF is this all about people? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15416946 The is an insane asylum in Amityville that was called the "Amityville Asylum" and it is still open. Do not believe that Amityville is just a normal community except for the Horror House hoopla. Drew Barrymore's Great-Grandfather died in the nuthouse there, the Director of Research worked for the CIA on mind control experiments, and more. SEE: [link to truelegends.info] From the New York Times on the CIA Mind Control Experiments with LSD and Amityville: [link to www.nytimes.com] That is the New York Times saying this. That site was interesting indeed. I particularly found the Al Capone connection interesting. I do find it interesting how every famous person mentioned on that site who were connected with Amityville in some way, either stayed, lived on or had some connection to Ocean Avenue. Whether this is verified or entirely accurate is another thing. Annie Oakley lived on Ocean Ave. The reason she was in New York was because she was part of Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show. On the east side of AMityville there was the Ranch. what up now nay sayers? we got us an east coast programming center. filled with Satanists.  |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21291600 United States03/16/2013 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "My Amityville" documentary. George Lutz-a Long Island luciferian/illuminati linked/related to Defeo? Family Op just like Sandy Hook? there's some forum that has done extensive research on this case. not one i've ever heard of and I can't link, but they got Butch Defeo linked to the mental hospital and mind control experiments involving LSD. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15416946 I have read in a few places his parents took him to get help for his anger issues. Does anyone know the name of the doctor they took him to, what kinds of medications the kid was prescribed or any records of his diagnosis? One of the things I find interesting ~ do not read anything into it as I clearly have ZERO facts~ is the fact there was an insane asylum in the town. This place was using mind control techniques along with LSD. It is well documented stuff. In the early 70s places to take your kid to seek help were not on every street corner lol Since this mind control and LSD therapy was being used during the same time frame that the Defoe's were looking to help their son I kind of am "noobie wise" putting two and two together. I am not saying the CIA controlled Butch to commit the murders ... by far no. However if they were doing research on this in the same place Butch was getting "help" could he have been one of the poor folks they used? The use of LSD is dangerous but even more so in a young kid. If not LSD there were several drugs used to curb bad behavior in the 70s that had disastrous results later in life. I was curious if any of those drugs were used or what diagnosis he received as that might point to certain drugs being prescribed to him as a child. Here we have a very unethical research study being done on mental patients in a small town. In the same small town at the same time period we have a kid who is a mental patient. It makes me wonder more about this time in his life. I am not using this as an excuse or think he is not to blame ... he is guilty. I can feel sympathy for the child or what was done to the child to create the monster. ----------------- Dr. Harold Abramson was doing experiments FOR the CIA and not ON the CIA. Here is one quick clip I just found explaining his unethical use of LSD on patients and staff. Dr. Harold Abramson created quite a stir years ago when he experimented with fish when he gave them LSD. In the 1970s he became an even bigger international sensation when it was discovered he was doing mind control experiments for the CIA using LSD in a program called MKULTRA. According to the New York Times, "In 1959, Dr. Abramson told a scientific meeting on LSD that at the outset many of his colleagues opposed his work with the drug, regarding him as 'a sort of psychiatric Dracula.'" The director of the asylum was looked upon as a "Mad Scientist" by his peers. In 1953 Dr. Abramson's patient Frank Olson threw himself out a window and died at the Statler Hotel in New York City. In 1975 it was revealed it was from LSD that was given to him as part of a CIA funded research project of Dr. Abramson. Dr. Abramson was giving patients LSD without telling them. The mental institution held a conference on LSD at the asylum on May 8th to 10th, 1965 in Amityville. According to Betty Grover Eisner "The last important conference for those of us who had worked with LSD was 'The Second International Conference on the Use of LSD in Psychotherapy and Alcoholism', held at the South Oaks Hospital in Amityville, New York. Dr. Harold Abramson was South Oaks Research Director." and "There were fifty-five of us gathered at Amityville, New York, almost every single therapist who had used LSD." ( [link to www.maps.org] Remembrances of LSD therapy past Betty Grover Eisner, Ph.D.August 7, 2002) Heck even the therapist there were using LSD! It makes me wonder if who was working with Butch at the time. --------------- This book was written by Dr. Abramson, the director of the mental facility in Amityville. [link to www.amazon.co.uk] Since he was the professional in the town, it made me curious if Butch did visit with him or one of his partners or therapist. --------------------- DeFeo Family Murders – A Government Hit? A secret element of the United States government equips secret police groups (agents) across America with classified surveillance and harassment technology to implement a secret domestic agenda. This domestic agenda involves social engineering of the American people. This social agenda involves domestic spying, creating hoaxes, tragedy, and targeting organized crime and gangs. This is a covert domestic operation that has been occurring since the late 1960’s. The Lutz family’s story of an extraordinary event that occurred in 1975 in Amityville indicates that they were targeted by sonic harassment technology. Their complaints of being harassed by an invisible force in their home is exactly what people attacked by classified sonic harassment technology would experience. See “Amityville Horror a government hoax” listed below for more information. I originally thought that the secret government used the DeFeo tragedy to create a hoax by moving into a neighboring house to the Lutz’s after the DeFeo tragedy and tricking the Lutz family into believing they were being haunted by a supernatural force. After reading the Ronnie DeFeo Jr. parole hearing transcripts, I am wondering if the surveillance of the Amityville Horror house began while the DeFeo family owned the house. Since the DeFeo family was involved in organized crime, they would have been a prime candidate for covert surveillance by the secret government of the United States. The secret government targets members of organized crime by covertly moving into a house near a targeted household that are engaged in illegal activities involving organized crime. The government agents are equipped with classified surveillance technology that can electronically see and hear through walls. This technology allows the agents to setup in a neighboring house to see and hear right through the walls of the targeted household. There is no privacy from this technology in a typical household. A targeted person can be seen and heard through the walls of his house in any room he may be in. All conversations can be heard and recorded for later analysis. The agents study every aspect of the targeted person or family in their home. In addition to home surveillance, the agents follow a targeted person to his workplace and rent a suite as close to the targeted person’s workplace as possible. Classified surveillance technology is moved into the suite to conduct workplace surveillance of the targeted person. The targeted person is placed under surveillance in both his home and workplace. This surveillance can last for months or even years. The targeted person or family will never know they are under surveillance. The classified surveillance technology can’t be detected by the person under surveillance. The agents can see the targeted person through walls but the targeted person can’t see them. This type of surveillance is used to go after members of organized crime to bring them down. No warrant is needed because the government agents are operating above the law. The agents will find a way to setup and bring the crime members to justice without compromising the covert surveillance operation. The secret government agents also create tragedy in certain circumstances to socially engineer American society. A fictional example of creating tragedy would be to study a targeted family and learn everything about the family and pick one family member who is mentally unstable and use him as a patsy. Agents operating in a neighboring house that are conducting 24 hour a day surveillance of the targeted household, initiate an assassination plot when the patsy leaves the house. Agents storm the household and murder all family members with a rifle belonging to the patsy. After all family members in the house are murdered the murder weapon is left in the house. When the patsy returns home and finds his family murdered and his rifle in clear view he panics and cleans up the crime scene and disposes of the weapon. The patsy now suspects organized crime has assassinated his family and has set him up to take the fall. The secret government uses a patsy that when people hear he has committed a terrible crime there will be little doubt in the public’s mind that he is responsible. The secret government agents carefully plan and execute a plot such as this. These government agents are professionals that don’t make mistakes. Could Ronnie DeFeo be a pasty? He seems to deny at times at his parole hearings that he had anything to do with the murder of his family. Reasons to suspect that the secret government created the Amityville Horror saga: The DeFeo family having organized crime connections. Ronnie DeFeo Jr. claiming to have heard voices telling him to kill his family would indicate that classified sonic projection technology was used to send him audible messages through the walls of his home. See previous post listed below. The method the DeFeo family was murdered would indicate that more than one person was responsible. Ronnie DeFeo Jr. at times denies he has any involvement in the murders and claims it was organized crime. The priest who blessed the house for the Lutz family heard a voice telling him to get out and then received a slap to the face by an invisible entity. This voice and slap is created by classified sonic sound projection technology and an infrasonic bullet colliding with the priest’s face. The Lutz family experiencing supernatural events after they move into the house. The supernatural events are the same as a person would experience after being attacked with classified sonic harassment technology. The Amityville Horror saga could be the crown jewel of the secret government’s social engineering of America. For more information please go to this website: [link to www.hightechharassment.com] well, there it is... the connection i have been looking for. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22334 United States03/16/2013 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "My Amityville" documentary. George Lutz-a Long Island luciferian/illuminati linked/related to Defeo? Family Op just like Sandy Hook? Was the house haunted? If you live in Amityville it is not the only house that was haunted. When you live in one of these houses you have to give the spirits space. There might be a rocking chair in the attic or some other object that you know is theirs and you respect that and don't move it. Living with spirits in your house is not all bad. They will protect you if you understand they were there before you and will be there after you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36305902 this. when i was a kid we lived in a house with a poltergeist. very mischievous. it liked to move things off shelves and pile things in the middle of the room. im pretty sure my mother caused the problem she liked to use ouija boards back then. it was the 70's Did you happen to live in Hampton,Va? no, that was in calgary, alberta. The reason i asked was I had a neighbor who had the same thing happened.They moved out and 2 Catholic nun sisters moved in.I remember when they had the priests come through and do a exorcism on the house begfore they moved in. |
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| Anubis User ID: 35369805 Canada03/16/2013 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "My Amityville" documentary. George Lutz-a Long Island luciferian/illuminati linked/related to Defeo? Family Op just like Sandy Hook? really good question. is he merely a biographer? i am sure he is involved as the luciferians work in tight groups. thats what i was thinking. need to do some digging... interestingly, not only Jay Anson but none other than Hans Hozler wrote a non fiction account of the occurances. Holzer, Hans, Murder In Amityville (New York City: Belmont Tower Books, 1979), Holzer, was prolific, and also wrote other interesting books such as: Hypnosis: Controlling the Inner You [link to www.amazon.com] ---- I remember reading this one in the 70s Window to the Past: Exploring History Through ESP [link to www.amazon.com] Last Edited by Anubis on 03/16/2013 05:02 PM |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21291600 United States03/16/2013 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "My Amityville" documentary. George Lutz-a Long Island luciferian/illuminati linked/related to Defeo? Family Op just like Sandy Hook? there's some forum that has done extensive research on this case. not one i've ever heard of and I can't link, but they got Butch Defeo linked to the mental hospital and mind control experiments involving LSD. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15416946 I have read in a few places his parents took him to get help for his anger issues. Does anyone know the name of the doctor they took him to, what kinds of medications the kid was prescribed or any records of his diagnosis? One of the things I find interesting ~ do not read anything into it as I clearly have ZERO facts~ is the fact there was an insane asylum in the town. This place was using mind control techniques along with LSD. It is well documented stuff. In the early 70s places to take your kid to seek help were not on every street corner lol Since this mind control and LSD therapy was being used during the same time frame that the Defoe's were looking to help their son I kind of am "noobie wise" putting two and two together. I am not saying the CIA controlled Butch to commit the murders ... by far no. However if they were doing research on this in the same place Butch was getting "help" could he have been one of the poor folks they used? The use of LSD is dangerous but even more so in a young kid. If not LSD there were several drugs used to curb bad behavior in the 70s that had disastrous results later in life. I was curious if any of those drugs were used or what diagnosis he received as that might point to certain drugs being prescribed to him as a child. Here we have a very unethical research study being done on mental patients in a small town. In the same small town at the same time period we have a kid who is a mental patient. It makes me wonder more about this time in his life. I am not using this as an excuse or think he is not to blame ... he is guilty. I can feel sympathy for the child or what was done to the child to create the monster. ----------------- Dr. Harold Abramson was doing experiments FOR the CIA and not ON the CIA. Here is one quick clip I just found explaining his unethical use of LSD on patients and staff. Dr. Harold Abramson created quite a stir years ago when he experimented with fish when he gave them LSD. In the 1970s he became an even bigger international sensation when it was discovered he was doing mind control experiments for the CIA using LSD in a program called MKULTRA. According to the New York Times, "In 1959, Dr. Abramson told a scientific meeting on LSD that at the outset many of his colleagues opposed his work with the drug, regarding him as 'a sort of psychiatric Dracula.'" The director of the asylum was looked upon as a "Mad Scientist" by his peers. In 1953 Dr. Abramson's patient Frank Olson threw himself out a window and died at the Statler Hotel in New York City. In 1975 it was revealed it was from LSD that was given to him as part of a CIA funded research project of Dr. Abramson. Dr. Abramson was giving patients LSD without telling them. The mental institution held a conference on LSD at the asylum on May 8th to 10th, 1965 in Amityville. According to Betty Grover Eisner "The last important conference for those of us who had worked with LSD was 'The Second International Conference on the Use of LSD in Psychotherapy and Alcoholism', held at the South Oaks Hospital in Amityville, New York. Dr. Harold Abramson was South Oaks Research Director." and "There were fifty-five of us gathered at Amityville, New York, almost every single therapist who had used LSD." ( [link to www.maps.org] Remembrances of LSD therapy past Betty Grover Eisner, Ph.D.August 7, 2002) Heck even the therapist there were using LSD! It makes me wonder if who was working with Butch at the time. --------------- This book was written by Dr. Abramson, the director of the mental facility in Amityville. [link to www.amazon.co.uk] Since he was the professional in the town, it made me curious if Butch did visit with him or one of his partners or therapist. --------------------- DeFeo Family Murders – A Government Hit? A secret element of the United States government equips secret police groups (agents) across America with classified surveillance and harassment technology to implement a secret domestic agenda. This domestic agenda involves social engineering of the American people. This social agenda involves domestic spying, creating hoaxes, tragedy, and targeting organized crime and gangs. This is a covert domestic operation that has been occurring since the late 1960’s. The Lutz family’s story of an extraordinary event that occurred in 1975 in Amityville indicates that they were targeted by sonic harassment technology. Their complaints of being harassed by an invisible force in their home is exactly what people attacked by classified sonic harassment technology would experience. See “Amityville Horror a government hoax” listed below for more information. I originally thought that the secret government used the DeFeo tragedy to create a hoax by moving into a neighboring house to the Lutz’s after the DeFeo tragedy and tricking the Lutz family into believing they were being haunted by a supernatural force. After reading the Ronnie DeFeo Jr. parole hearing transcripts, I am wondering if the surveillance of the Amityville Horror house began while the DeFeo family owned the house. Since the DeFeo family was involved in organized crime, they would have been a prime candidate for covert surveillance by the secret government of the United States. The secret government targets members of organized crime by covertly moving into a house near a targeted household that are engaged in illegal activities involving organized crime. The government agents are equipped with classified surveillance technology that can electronically see and hear through walls. This technology allows the agents to setup in a neighboring house to see and hear right through the walls of the targeted household. There is no privacy from this technology in a typical household. A targeted person can be seen and heard through the walls of his house in any room he may be in. All conversations can be heard and recorded for later analysis. The agents study every aspect of the targeted person or family in their home. In addition to home surveillance, the agents follow a targeted person to his workplace and rent a suite as close to the targeted person’s workplace as possible. Classified surveillance technology is moved into the suite to conduct workplace surveillance of the targeted person. The targeted person is placed under surveillance in both his home and workplace. This surveillance can last for months or even years. The targeted person or family will never know they are under surveillance. The classified surveillance technology can’t be detected by the person under surveillance. The agents can see the targeted person through walls but the targeted person can’t see them. This type of surveillance is used to go after members of organized crime to bring them down. No warrant is needed because the government agents are operating above the law. The agents will find a way to setup and bring the crime members to justice without compromising the covert surveillance operation. The secret government agents also create tragedy in certain circumstances to socially engineer American society. A fictional example of creating tragedy would be to study a targeted family and learn everything about the family and pick one family member who is mentally unstable and use him as a patsy. Agents operating in a neighboring house that are conducting 24 hour a day surveillance of the targeted household, initiate an assassination plot when the patsy leaves the house. Agents storm the household and murder all family members with a rifle belonging to the patsy. After all family members in the house are murdered the murder weapon is left in the house. When the patsy returns home and finds his family murdered and his rifle in clear view he panics and cleans up the crime scene and disposes of the weapon. The patsy now suspects organized crime has assassinated his family and has set him up to take the fall. The secret government uses a patsy that when people hear he has committed a terrible crime there will be little doubt in the public’s mind that he is responsible. The secret government agents carefully plan and execute a plot such as this. These government agents are professionals that don’t make mistakes. Could Ronnie DeFeo be a pasty? He seems to deny at times at his parole hearings that he had anything to do with the murder of his family. Reasons to suspect that the secret government created the Amityville Horror saga: The DeFeo family having organized crime connections. Ronnie DeFeo Jr. claiming to have heard voices telling him to kill his family would indicate that classified sonic projection technology was used to send him audible messages through the walls of his home. See previous post listed below. The method the DeFeo family was murdered would indicate that more than one person was responsible. Ronnie DeFeo Jr. at times denies he has any involvement in the murders and claims it was organized crime. The priest who blessed the house for the Lutz family heard a voice telling him to get out and then received a slap to the face by an invisible entity. This voice and slap is created by classified sonic sound projection technology and an infrasonic bullet colliding with the priest’s face. The Lutz family experiencing supernatural events after they move into the house. The supernatural events are the same as a person would experience after being attacked with classified sonic harassment technology. The Amityville Horror saga could be the crown jewel of the secret government’s social engineering of America. For more information please go to this website: [link to www.hightechharassment.com] well, there it is... the connection i have been looking for. think of it this way. ronnie defeo is the same as adam lanza or james holmes. parallel situation. very parallel. |
| Anubis User ID: 35369805 Canada03/16/2013 05:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "My Amityville" documentary. George Lutz-a Long Island luciferian/illuminati linked/related to Defeo? Family Op just like Sandy Hook? think of it this way. ronnie defeo is the same as adam lanza or james holmes. parallel situation. very parallel. Quoting: Salt holmes hasnt been seen sober since his arrest drugged out of his mind Thread: OMG They ARE drugging James Holmes!!!! |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21291600 United States03/16/2013 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "My Amityville" documentary. George Lutz-a Long Island luciferian/illuminati linked/related to Defeo? Family Op just like Sandy Hook? think of it this way. ronnie defeo is the same as adam lanza or james holmes. parallel situation. very parallel. Quoting: Salt holmes hasnt been seen sober since his arrest drugged out of his mind Thread: OMG They ARE drugging James Holmes!!!! adam and james were "troubled" kids, treated for mental illness, given psychotropics, then shot and killed lots of people. ronnie dafeo same thing. then, right on queue, an illuminati handler comes in to exploit the situation. |
