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So, What's Happening in the Tim Turner Trial?

 
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So, What's Happening in the Tim Turner Trial?
in january i heard the trial was supposed to start on the 13th of march, but haven't heard anything since. Anyone hearing anything?
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has it even begun?
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when will it begin?
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jury selection apparently.

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I just hope that Mr Crocker doesn't get seated or he'll never get a fair trial.

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thanks.
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with the Defense documents sealed from public viewing the US attorney got a swift conviction.

MOTION TO SEAL EXHBITS
The United States of America, by and through United States Attorney George L. Beck, Jr., herein applies for an Order sealing certain exhibits filed by Defendant, and says as follows in support:
1. On February 26, 2013, Defendant James Timothy Turner filed a document styled “Motion in Limine for a Fair Trial.” Doc. 73. To this document, Defendant attached thirty-one exhibits. The Government has only been able to review these exhibits in a cursory manner, but many are either grand jury transcripts, inadmissible memoranda, or contain personal identifying information. The Government requests that these documents—or alternatively all exhibits to Defendant’s Motion—be sealed for the reasons stated below.


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oridinA federal jury convicted an Ozark man on Friday of multiple felony charges related to a conspiracy to defraud the U.S. government and tax evasion.

James Timothy Turner, 57, was found guilty after a five-day trial that took place in U.S. Judge Myron Thompson’s courtroom in Montgomery this week.
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July 31 FBI release:
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This is the entire text:

Self-Proclaimed President of Sovereign Citizen Group Sentenced to Federal Prison for Promoting Tax Fraud Scheme
U.S. Department of Justice July 31, 2013

Office of Public Affairs (202) 514-2007/TDD (202) 514-1888

WASHINGTON—The Justice Department, the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), and the FBI announced today that James Timothy Turner, also known as Tim Turner, was sentenced to serve 18 years in federal prison for conspiracy to defraud the United States, attempting to pay taxes with fictitious financial instruments, attempting to obstruct and impede the IRS, failing to file a 2009 federal income tax return, and falsely testifying under oath in a bankruptcy proceeding.

In March 2013, following a five-day jury trial, Turner was convicted on 10 counts in the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Alabama. Based on the evidence introduced at trial and in court filings, Turner, the self-proclaimed “president” of the sovereign citizen group Republic for the united States of America (RuSA), traveled the country in 2008 and 2009 conducting seminars teaching attendees how to defraud the IRS by preparing and submitting fictitious bonds to the U.S. government in payment of federal taxes, mortgages, and other debt. The evidence at trial revealed the bonds are fictitious, and witnesses testified that Turner used special paper, financial terminology, and elaborate borders in an effort to make them look authentic and more likely to succeed in defrauding the recipient. Turner was convicted of sending a $300 million fictitious bond in his own name and of aiding and abetting others in sending 15 other fictitious bonds to the Treasury Department to pay taxes and other debts.

The evidence at trial also established that Turner taught people how to file retaliatory liens against government officials who interfered with the processing of fictitious bonds. Turner filed a purported $17.6 billion maritime lien in Montgomery County, Alabama Probate Court against another individual. This investigation began after Turner and three other self-proclaimed “Guardian Elders” sent demands to all 50 governors in the United States in March 2010 ordering each governor to resign within three days to be replaced by a “sovereign” leader or be “removed.” The FBI immediately began investigating Turner and IRS- Criminal Investigation (IRS-CI) joined the investigation soon thereafter.

“This lengthy prison sentence shows that tax defiers like Turner who use bogus tax schemes and file retaliatory liens against government officials will be punished,” said Assistant Attorney General for the Justice Department’s Tax Division Kathryn Keneally. “The Justice Department will continue to work with law enforcement to investigate and prosecute those who attempt to defraud the government.”

“This sentence should send a message that if you attempt to use retaliatory tax liens and fraudulent tax schemes as weapons against the United States and its citizens you will be punished,” stated acting U.S. Attorney Sandra J. Stewart for the Middle District of Alabama. “We cannot and will not tolerate those who violate the law for financial gain. I would like to thank the law enforcement officers who worked vigilantly on this case to bring this criminal to justice.”

“Turner influenced others with his false ideology by aggressively promoting obstruction of the IRS,” stated Richard Weber, Chief, IRS-Criminal Investigation. “In truth, Turner’s own defiance of IRS and his attempts to lead others through the same labyrinth of lies and distortions led to his downfall as shown by the significant sentence he must now serve. Today’s sentence should also send a strong message to those who may follow in Turner’s footsteps and attempt to defy their tax obligations. The legality of our income tax laws has been challenged time and time again and the courts have consistently upheld them.”

“The FBI is committed to vigorously investigate individuals and groups who steal from the federal government for financial gain through schemes deigned to avoid payment on loans, taxes, and other obligations owed the federal government,” stated Stephen Richardson, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI, Mobile Division.

In addition to prison time, Turner was ordered to pay $26,021 in restitution to the IRS and to serve a five-year term of supervised release upon his release from prison.

This case was investigated by special agents of the FBI and IRS-CI and was prosecuted by Tax Division Trial Attorney Justin Gelfand and Middle District of Alabama Assistant U.S. Attorney Gray Borden.
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For the one or two of the readers who might not know, Tim Turner was head of an organization referred to under the title of "Republic for the United States of America" or RuSA.

He displayed some symptoms of megalomania early on with many grand pronouncements with unbacked claims of seizure of tons of gold and claims of pending mass arrests of public officials.

The governors of the 50 states were sent a legal notice of the claims being made. I have at least one digital copy of that document but cannot say whether it is an accurate copy.

The reader should be aware that variations on the original legal document hand delivered to the governors of the state exist. The various governors did take it seriously with several beefing up security. The FBI also seemly recognized that at least portions had good merit.

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