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Why are the Jesuits so demonized on this forum? Can someone explain it to me?
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They are a secretive orginazation and in that evil and unrighteousness behaviors fester and find a home. Elite thinking always cause selfish behavior.
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What exactly is secretive about them?
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What exactly is secretive about them?
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What exactly is secretive about them?
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are you catholic?
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NOt sure, but I read where they feel its ok to persecute heretics or dissenters so long as its for the cause.
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"I furthermore promise and declare that I will, when opportunity present, make and wage relentless war, secretly or openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Liberals, as I am directed to do, to extirpate and exterminate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex or condition; and that I will hang, waste, boil, flay, strangle and bury alive these infamous heretics, rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women and crush their infants' heads against the walls, in order to annihilate forever their execrable race. That when the same cannot be done openly, I will secretly use the poisoned cup, the strangulating cord, the steel of the poniard or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honor, rank, dignity, or authority of the person or persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agent of the Pope or Superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Faith, of the Society of Jesus."

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They are like the CIA arm of Romanism, doing the Vatican's "dirty work". For example, they helped hide a co-conspirator in the assassination of Abraham Lincoln inside the Vatican. Who do you think financed Lincoln's murder and why did the US break diplomatic tries with the Vatican? Look up Alberto Rivera and read his ordeal they tried to discredit. Look up their actions against people and fellow priests in Argentina's "dirty war."


Do your own research. Here is a start: [link to www.toughissues.org]
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They still have to abide by the ten commandments, they are not given a pass or ANYBODY, ANYBODY else. coffee4
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They still have to abide by the ten commandments, they are not given a pass or ANYBODY, ANYBODY else.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20903842


Does any of this break any commandments, or is it just following God's will?

"I furthermore promise and declare that I will, when opportunity present, make and wage relentless war, secretly or openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Liberals, as I am directed to do, to extirpate and exterminate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex or condition; and that I will hang, waste, boil, flay, strangle and bury alive these infamous heretics, rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women and crush their infants' heads against the walls, in order to annihilate forever their execrable race. That when the same cannot be done openly, I will secretly use the poisoned cup, the strangulating cord, the steel of the poniard or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honor, rank, dignity, or authority of the person or persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agent of the Pope or Superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Faith, of the Society of Jesus."
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What exactly is secretive about them?
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are you catholic?
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Yes, and am seriously considering going into the priesthood...probably not the Jesuits, though.
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They're basically the military arm of the Vatican, both subversion agents & the original 'Inquisitors' if you will. Founded by Illuminist Ignatius De Loyola.

It is believed the De Loyola (founder of the Jesuits) believed in the mysticism spiritual approach to Illuminism and founded the Jacobin school of Illuminism known as 'Alambrados' around 1654.

Weishaupt, a Jesuit J3w, later founded the Bavarian Illuminati in 1776. This brand of Illuminism was based on 'Mind & Reason' - A purely political school.

Both are subversive agencies working toward their own means.

Essentially, it's been the same old story for the past 2000 years, the Romans at odds with the Jews, with the rest of the world's G0y getting in the way.

Go back even further in time and you'll discover some really interesting truths about the reason Christianity was invented in the first place.
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They are a secretive orginazation and in that evil and unrighteousness behaviors fester and find a home. Elite thinking always cause selfish behavior.
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Really?

So living monastically and going into third world nations working volunteer only to help educate and feed?

I doubt you even met a Jesuit and in fact most likely have no clue what you're saying - outside of the conspiracy gibberish you peddle for truth.
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bcause they're waaay up there

so up there you cant even see them
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They are a secretive orginazation and in that evil and unrighteousness behaviors fester and find a home. Elite thinking always cause selfish behavior.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36520768


Really?

So living monastically and going into third world nations working volunteer only to help educate and feed?

I doubt you even met a Jesuit and in fact most likely have no clue what you're saying - outside of the conspiracy gibberish you peddle for truth.
 Quoting: Children of the Atom


Eh, this is a common misconception among conspiracy-tards.

The entire order is mostly filled with good people, it's when you start to creep your way to the top that you discover it stinks.

Similar to the Masons.

Similar to the Jews.

Similar to pretty much every organization.
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They are a secretive orginazation and in that evil and unrighteousness behaviors fester and find a home. Elite thinking always cause selfish behavior.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36520768


Really?

So living monastically and going into third world nations working volunteer only to help educate and feed?

I doubt you even met a Jesuit and in fact most likely have no clue what you're saying - outside of the conspiracy gibberish you peddle for truth.
 Quoting: Children of the Atom


Thank you...a voice of rationality (a rarity on this site). Green karma for you.
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What exactly is secretive about them?
 Quoting: Ohio Leopard


are you catholic?
 Quoting: MaxMad


Yes, and am seriously considering going into the priesthood...probably not the Jesuits, though.
 Quoting: Ohio Leopard


OPedophile is a creeper who cannot be trusted, this perv wants to be a priest!!!
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They are a secretive orginazation and in that evil and unrighteousness behaviors fester and find a home. Elite thinking always cause selfish behavior.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36520768


Really?

So living monastically and going into third world nations working volunteer only to help educate and feed?

I doubt you even met a Jesuit and in fact most likely have no clue what you're saying - outside of the conspiracy gibberish you peddle for truth.
 Quoting: Children of the Atom


That's like saying the Rothschilds donate to charity, so they're just fine and dandy.
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What exactly is secretive about them?
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are you catholic?
 Quoting: MaxMad


Yes, and am seriously considering going into the priesthood...probably not the Jesuits, though.
 Quoting: Ohio Leopard


OPedophile is a creeper who cannot be trusted, this perv wants to be a priest!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1473574


You ever hear of "judge not, lest ye be judged"?

Why do you say such inflammatory things when you know NOTHING at all about me? People like you sicken me.

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What exactly is secretive about them?
 Quoting: Ohio Leopard


sshhh
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


A cute smiley graphic is not an answer...
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bcause they're waaay up there

so up there you cant even see them
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Woah... Their. like.

Trapped in the either dude...

Woah.....
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At first, I couldn't believe they were serious,
the lies they so confidently spat out about the Jesuits,
I didn't think a level of ignorance that deep could keep perpetuating itself on GLP.
I know a lot of stupidity gets aired here, but this was a whole new level, in both its persistency and how widespread it seems to be.
So, I did some research, (uhuh..googling ;) and the slander has quite a history.
If you haven't read it before, this explains it quite well:

[link to www.newadvent.org]



hf


It's all part of the war I've mentioned to you before,
I believe the freemason illuminati are the instigators.

To some, it might seem as if it doesn't matter who is spreading and fueling the lies, but I think its really important, because when we recognize them, we will begin to finally loosen their grip on the world, and it is no insignificant, isolated grip, but a stranglehold that is
creating the miserable, immoral and unjust conditions for the majority of the population.

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its a zionist scam to blame the jesuits. its disinfo. i dont believe it. its to easy to blame someone who doesnt defend himself and even easier without reliable proof.
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Do your own research. Here is a start: [link to www.toughissues.org]
 Quoting: Spitting Into The Wind


The info at that link is incredible, especially the quote section-
Like this one - wow -



“My history of the JESUITS is not eloquently written, but it is supported by unquestionable authorities, [Ed.: and] is very particular and very horrible. Their restoration [Ed.: i.e., the Jesuits’ reinstatement as a religious order by Pope Pius VII in 1814] is indeed a step toward darkness, cruelty, perfidy, despotism, [Ed.: and] death. …I do not like the appearance of the JESUITS. If ever there was a body of men who merited eternal damnation on earth and in hell, it is this Society of Loyola’s [Ed.: i.e., the JESUIT ORDER].” – John Adams (1735-1826; 2nd President of the United States) [Ed.: This quote is taken from a letter written by John Adams to Thomas Jefferson in 1816.]
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why have the Jesuits been kicked out of 83 countries, states, and city-states?
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Do your own research. Here is a start: [link to www.toughissues.org]
 Quoting: Spitting Into The Wind


The info at that link is incredible, especially the quote section-
Like this one - wow -



“My history of the JESUITS is not eloquently written, but it is supported by unquestionable authorities, [Ed.: and] is very particular and very horrible. Their restoration [Ed.: i.e., the Jesuits’ reinstatement as a religious order by Pope Pius VII in 1814] is indeed a step toward darkness, cruelty, perfidy, despotism, [Ed.: and] death. …I do not like the appearance of the JESUITS. If ever there was a body of men who merited eternal damnation on earth and in hell, it is this Society of Loyola’s [Ed.: i.e., the JESUIT ORDER].” – John Adams (1735-1826; 2nd President of the United States) [Ed.: This quote is taken from a letter written by John Adams to Thomas Jefferson in 1816.]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14965262


This quote from the above link is also interesting, a excerpt from a book -


“The JESUIT ORDER has very effectively used traitorous Jews as their agents to carry out awful crimes against humanity. So many things have been done by Jews who were being used by the JESUITS. [Ed.: The Bolshevik reign of terror in Russia in the early 20th century is a good example. Most of the Jews in the Soviet Politburo were murdered after being used by the Jesuits.] When the whistle is blown and someone cries foul, the Jew is left holding the bag and is blamed, while the JESUIT ORDER walks away clean. This has been the case time after time through the last 400 years.” – Bill Hughes (“The Enemy Unmasked”; 1st Edition, 2004; p 32)
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why have the Jesuits been kicked out of 83 countries, states, and city-states?
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I didn't know this wow.

The link above that someone posted has a short list - amazing - amazing what is NOT in the history books -

So this is from this link posted up thread - wow -
[link to www.toughissues.org]

VI. A sampling of expulsions of Jesuits from various nations (hopefully listed chronologically according to the 1st year of expulsion by various nations; in some cases the monarch who ordered the expulsion is listed):

1579, 1581, 1586, and 1602 – Elizabeth I, Queen of England

1604 – James I, King of England [This was the 5th expulsion of the Jesuits from England!]

1614 – Japan

1618 – the Kingdom of Bohemia

1716, 1783 – China

1719 – Peter the Great of Russia

1759 – King Joseph I of Portugal [He believed the Jesuits attempted to assassinate him in 1758.]

1764 – King Louis XV of France

1816 – Russian Czar Alexander I [He expelled the Jesuits from Moscow and St. Petersburg.]

1820 – Russian Czar Alexander I [He expelled the Jesuits from all of Russia.]

1820, 1835, 1868 – Spain

1834 – Portugal [2nd expulsion of the Jesuits from Portugal]

1848 – Switzerland

1848, 1859 – Italy

1872 – Guatemala

1872 – German-Prussian Empire

1873 – Mexico

1874 – Brazil

1875 – Ecuador and Columbia

1880, 1901 – France [2nd and 3rd expulsions of the Jesuits from France]

1884 – Costa Rica

1901 – Portugal [3rd expulsion of the Jesuits from Portugal]

NOTE: The Jesuits were expelled from England five times! The Jesuits were also expelled three times from predominantly Roman Catholic Spain, three times from predominantly Roman Catholic Portugal, and three times from predominantly Roman Catholic France! The Jesuits were also expelled numerous times from various predominantly Roman Catholic countries in South and Central America. Why were the Jesuits expelled so many times from so many nations of the world? Let us here repeat a quotation by Canadian author and historian J.E.C. Shepherd that was given earlier in this newsletter – a quotation that provides us with the answer:
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that's right, and the Monroe Doctrine was created to keep the Jesuits out of America, not anyone else.

even Pope Clement XIV tried to remove the Jesuits so as to prevent the secession of Catholic states.

'''The pressure kept building up to the point that Catholic countries were threatening to break away from the Church. Clement XIV ultimately yielded "in the name of peace of the Church and to avoid a secession in Europe" and suppressed the Society of Jesus by the brief Dominus ac Redemptor of the 21 July 1773''''

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


you want to talk about money and power, in the 17-1800's, there were 2500 Jesuit priests supervising 700,000 South Americans in various business operations.

Colombia has been governed by the Concordat of 1928, which is still in effect today.

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Amazing- What percentage of Catholics know this about the church they go to every week? wow


[link to www.toughissues.org]


Samuel Adams (American Revolutionary leader and statesman; 1722-1803): “I did verily believe, as I do still, that much more is to be dreaded from the growth of Popery [Ed.: i.e., the religion of the church of Rome] in America than from the Stamp Act or any other Act destructive of civil rights.” (1768)



John Adams (2nd U.S. President; 1735-1826): “Can free government possibly exist with the Roman Catholic Religion?” [Note: Adams strongly condemned the Jesuit Order in a letter he wrote to Thomas Jefferson in 1816.]



Marquis de LaFayette (1757-1834): “It is my opinion that if the liberties of this country – the United States of America – are destroyed, it will be by the subtlety of the Roman Catholic Jesuit priests, for they are the most crafty, dangerous enemies to civil and religious liberty. They have instigated most of the wars of Europe.”



Samuel Morse (American inventor of the telegraph; 1791-1872): “The Jesuits…are a secret society – a sort of Masonic order – with superadded features of revolting odiousness, and a thousand times more dangerous.”



Napoleon Bonaparte (Fr. emperor; 1769-1821): “The Jesuits are a military organization, not a religious order. Their chief is a general of an army, not the mere father abbot of a monastery. And the aim of this organization is power – power in its most despotic exercise – absolute power, universal power, power to control the world by the volition of a single man [Ed.: i.e., the “Black Pope”, the Superior General of the Jesuits]. Jesuitism is the most absolute of despotisms [sic] – and at the same time the greatest and most enormous of abuses…”



Fyodor Dostoyevsky (Russian novelist; 1821-1881): “The Jesuits…are simply the Romish army for the earthly sovereignty of the world in the future, with the Pontiff of Rome for emperor…that’s their ideal. …It is simple lust of power, of filthy earthly gain, of domination – something like a universal serfdom with them [Ed.: i.e., the Jesuits] as masters – that’s all they stand for. They don’t even believe in God perhaps.”



Abraham Lincoln (16th U.S. President who was assassinated by agents of Papal Rome; 1809-1865): “If the American people could learn what I know of the fierce hatred of the priests of Rome against our institutions, our schools, our most sacred rights, and our so dearly bought liberties, they would drive them out as traitors.”



Thomas M. Harris (U.S. Army Brigadier General; 1817-1906; author of the book “Rome’s Responsibility for the Assassination of Abraham Lincoln”): “…A foreign political power [Ed.: i.e., Papal Rome]…has gotten a lodgment [Ed.: a military term for a foothold that has been gained or seized in the enemy’s territory] in this land of Liberty [Ed.: i.e., the American Constitutional Republic], and…is evidently bent on the destruction of our free institutions, and substituting for them Papal despotism: a despotism that lords it over the minds, the consciences, and the actions of its subjects – and thus renders them incapable of loyalty to any other government.”



William Ewart Gladstone (British prime minister and statesman; 1809-1898): “No more cunning plot was ever devised against the freedom, the happiness and the virtue of mankind than Romanism [Ed.: i.e., the Roman Catholic system].” (Statement made in a letter to Earl Aberdeen)



Henry Palmerston (British prime minister and statesman; 1784-1865): “The presence of the Jesuits in any country, Romanist or Protestant, is likely to breed social disturbance.”





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