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# Scientifically you are Blind !!

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Mmmmmm, bacon. Somebody pass me the Koran, I'm outta toilet paper.
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How many days did it take to create Heavens and Earth ?

Quran 7: 54 Your gurdian-Lord is Allah who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

Quran 10: 3 Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

Quran 11:7 He it is Who created the heavens and earth in Six Days Quran-25:29: He Who created the heavens and earth and all that is between, in Six Days

The above verses clearly state that God created the heaven and Allah created the heaven and the Earth in 6 days. But the verses below stated-

Quran 41: 9 Is it that ye deny Him who created the earth in Two Days ?

Quran 41: 10 He set on the (earth) Mountains standing firm high above it, and bestowed blessing on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR DAYS…

Quran 41: 12 So He completed them (heavens) as seven firmaments in Two days and …

Now do the math: 2(for earth) + 4(for nourishment) + 2 (for heavens) = 8 days; and not 6 days

Similar mistakes you can see in the verse: Quran 4: 11 - 12, and Quran 4: 176 in inheritance law. In these verses one can see the total property after adding all distributed parties adds up more than the available property, i.e., totals become more than 1 which are: 1.125 and 1.25. How come ? A gross mathematical errors, is not it ?

Allah’s Days Equal to 1000 Years or 50,000 Years?

Quran 22: 47 A day in the sight of the Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning. Quran-32:5: To Him, on a Day, the space whereof will be a thousands years of your rekoning

Quran 70: 4 The angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a day the measure whereof is Fifty thousands years.

So, which one is it? Is the day of Allah equal to 1,000 earth years or 50,000 earth years?

Creation of the Heaven and Earth Which one was created first? As you will see in the verses below, Allah at one time says that Earth was created first and another time he says that the Heaven was created first.

Quran 2: 29 It is He who hath created for you all things that are on Earth; THEN He turned to the Heaven and made them into seven firmaments (Skies)….

Quran 79: 27 - 30 Are you the harder to create, or is the heaven that He built? He raised the height thereof and ordered it; and He has made dark the night thereof, and He brought forth the morning thereof. And after that, He spread (flattened) the earth

Now, does it match modern science? Do you believe that, Earth was created first, after that, God created Heaven? Modern science tells us that? Or How come SEVEN firmaments (layers)? Modern science tells us that, actually there is no such thing Sky is no “roof” over us. It is only a space with no known boundary at all. These verses simply reinforce the ancient idea of ROOF over us which is called SKY, is it not so? How funny!

Sun-set and Sun-rise Koran teaches us that the Sun sets in a muddy spring:

Quran 18: 86 Till, when he (the traveller Zul-qarnain) reached the setting-place of the Sun, he found it going down into a muddy spring…

Quran 18: 90 Till, when he reached the rising-place of the Sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had appointed no shelter from it.

Serious scientific errors here! Firstly, it is scientifically accepted fact that, the Sun never go down in a muddy spring. Secondly, this seems to presuppose a FLAT Earth, otherwise how can there be an extreme point in the West or in the East? A sunrise there would be basically just the same as at any other place on this earth, at land or sea. It would still look as if it is setting “far away”. It does say, that he reached THE PLACE where the Sun sets and in his second Journey the place where it rises.

A resting place for Sun!? Quran 36: 38 And the sun runneth on unto a resting place for him. That is the measuring of the Mighty, the Wise. Quran 36: 39 And for the moon We have appointed mansions till she return like an old shrivelled palm leaf. Quran 36: 40 It is not for Sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit.

Allah is indeed a big scientist. Where is sun and where is moon situated? Can anybody tell me how they could collide/meet/overtake each other? Are the sun and the moon neighbors to each other? I have the answer for this error: Ancient Allah saw (bare eye observations) sun and moon traveling from east to west seemingly in the same Sky area or same path, without colliding, causing day and night etc. Allah hardly could imagine that all these phenomena are simply due to Earth’s rotation and NOT by Sun’s rotation. Sun is stationary for Earth, because earth is stuck in the sun’s Gravity, like we are stuck in earth’s gravity. Allah never says any where in the whole Quran that, EARTH ROTATES. Perhaps Allah could not feel earth’s rotation.

A resting place for sun WAS CONFIRMED BY HADITHS?

Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 421 Sahih Bukhari Hadiths: Abzur Ghifari (ra) narrated: one day Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) asked me, “Abzar do you know after setting where does Sun go?” I replied, I do not know, only Allah’s apostle can say better. Then Prophet (SA) replied, “After setting, the sun remains prostrated under Allah’s Aro’sh and waits for Allah’s command for rising again in the East. Day will come when sun will not get permission to rise again and Qeyamot will fall upon Earth”.

Can anybody tell me what is it? It was the superstitious belief of ancient people reflected in the Quran and Hadiths by Allah. A 10-year-old boy would not tell such fairy tale story today.

Why Allah Created Stars! Quran gives us further scientific knowledge by telling us that the stars were created by Allah as missiles to throw at the devils:

Quran 67: 5 And We have (from of old) adorned the lowest heaven (sky) with lamps, and We have made such (Lamps as) missiles to drive away Satans…

Quran 37: 6-8 We have indeed decorated the lower heaven (sky) with beauty (in) the stars, (for beauty) and for guard against all obstinate rebellious Satans. So they should not strain their ears in the direction of the Exalted Assembly but be cast away from every side.

Thus, the stars are nothing but missiles to throw at devils so that they may not eavesdrop on the heavenly council. Once again we find how Allah was high on his superstitious weirdness.

Is Sky/Heaven A ROOF or Canopy Over the Earth? Quran 21: 32 And We have made the sky a roof withheld (from them). Yet they turn away from its portents.

Quran 31: 10 He hath created the heavens (Skies) without supports (pillars) that ye can see, and hath cast into the earth firm Mountains/Hills, so that it quake not with you; and He hath dispersed…

Modern science tells us- whole thing around the earth is space and there is no boundary even if we go Billions of light years away in all directions. Questions are: When there is no sky above us then how in the world, it needs pillars for support? Do we really have a roof above us? Is there a canopy above the Earth? Is there anything called above or beneath us? Are mountains there to prevent Earth from shaking? Give me a break!

Once again Allah considered sky as roof over the Earth, which will broke/shattered during dooms day

Quran 78: 19 And the heavens (sky) Shall be broken (opened) as if there were doors opens…

Quran 82: 1 When the Sky is cleft asunder

Quran 69: 16 And the sky will be Rent asunder, for it will That day be flimsy (soft)

Quran 81: 2 When the stars fall, losing their luster.

Yousuf Ali comments in his Tafsir: beautiful blue-sky overhead (which we take for granted in sunshine) will be shattered to pieces. Modern science tells us that there is no such thing as roof/sky or any canopy over the Earth; rather all around Earth is a limitless space. Only Allah knows what will break/shatter or will get soft/flimsy or how doors will open , there is no walls, where from doors will come? In some Ayats Allah threatened kafirs by saying: “I (Allah) will throw broken pieces of sky over your head.”

Does Sun Rotate Around the Earth? Quran 31: 29 Seest thou not that Allah merges Night into Day and He merges Day into Night; That He has subjected the sun and moon (to His law), each running its course for a term (time) appointed.

Quran 21: 33 It is He who created The Night and Day, And the Sun and Moon; each of them Swim (float) along in its own course.

Ayats mentioned above could be found over and over again and again almost in every pages of Quran. Because, Allah standing in the open Arab desert saw very well that, every morning SUN is rising from the East and gradually (appointed time or fixed time) setting to the West, and as a result, day and night follows. Allah truly mentioned this wrong knowledge (sun moving) of pre-historic people. Every time Allah mentioned Sun & Moon, He mentioned day & night, as if it is due to sun’s movement day and night follows. But surprisingly, all the hypocrite Mullahs giving false credit to Allah by saying: look Quran told about sun’s movement 1400 years ago which modern science only found out now. In real world, sun takes 225 millions of years to make just one complete circle through the solar Universe. And obviously this movement of sun has nothing to do with DAY & NIGHT of the earth. Actually, Sun is stationary in relation to the Earth, because the Earth is stuck to the giant gravitation force of the Sun, and the Earth also moves along with the Sun wherever it goes, just the way we are stuck to the Earth’s gravitation force and do not feel its movement at all.

Why then, Allah was telling the Sun’s movement again and again. I have already mentioned above, why Allah was hysteric about the Sun’s movements. Now dishonest Mullahs are claiming science here. I wonder, why Allah has to mentioned about the Sun’s 225 millions year journey (which is even unimaginable to mankind) to tell about day and night? What relation Sun’s movement has with the day and night?

Does Earth Spread Out Like Carpet (flat)? Quran 15: 19 And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet); set thereon Mountains firm and immovable;

Quran 78: 6-7 Have We not made the earth as a wide expanse, And the mountains as pegs (anchor)?

Allah was sure that earth is flat like a carpet and mountains are there to anchor the earth so that earth does not shake with us. Allah is really merciful scientist.

Is Man Created From Clotted Blood? Quran-23:14: Then fashioned We the drop (semen) a CLOT OF CONGEALED BLOOD then fashioned We the Clot a little lump (foetus), fashioned We the little lump into bones, then clothed the bones with flesh, and then produced it another creation. So blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators. ( Bengali translated Quran said: “Zamaa’t Raokto theeke Manoosh banieesi” And this Ayat has been repeated again and again throughout the Quran ) Quran-75:38: Then he becomes a CLOT; then (Allah) shaped and fashioned…

Quran 96: 2 Created man, out of a mere clot of congealed blood

There are serious scientific problems here:

Blood clot cannot grow into anything. This idea also came from the Greek. Aristotle erroneously believed that, humans are originated from the action of male semen upon female menstrual blood, which is absolutely an incorrect assumption. Quran’s assertion on Clot (alaqa) is completely wrong about human development, since there is absolutely no stage during which the embryo consists of a clot. The only situation in which an embryo might appear like a clot is during a miscarriage, in which case the clotted blood that is seen to emerge (much of which comes from mother) is solidified and by definition no longer alive. Therefore, if ever an embryo appeared to look like a clot it would never develop any further into a human; it would be a dead mass of bloody miscarrying flesh. Since Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) had some thirteen wives it is entirely possible that he would be very familiar with miscarriages.

Modern science tells us that, the formation of human embryo is a seamless continuation from conception to birth; hence there are no hard- and- fast boundaries of stages as Quran describes. Quran describes 4 stages, which matches exactly with Galenic description of development of human embryo (which was proved wrong by modern science).

Creation of bones and clothing of bones with flesh: According to modern embryologists including Prof. Moore, the tissue from which bone originates, known as mesoderm, is the same tissue as that from which muscle (flesh) develops. Thus bone and muscles begin to develop simultaneously, rather than sequentially (as the Quran is telling us). Moreover, most of the muscle tissue that we humans have is laid down before birth, but bones continue to develop and calcify (strengthen with calcium) right into one’s teenage years. So it would be more accurate if the Quran had said that muscles started to develop at the same time as bones, but completed their development earlier. The idea that bones are clothed with flesh is not only scientifically completely wrong/false, but was directly copied from the ancient Greek doctor Galen’s hypothesis.

Also, the idea of saying: “made into bones and clothed the bones with muscle” came from the technique of making animal statue out of rod and cement or mud. People usually make the skeleton (out of rod or stick) first and, then cover it up with cement or mud. This is scarcely a scientific description of embryonic development. It is rather a description of an unlettered man.

Is Religion Compulsive Or Is It Not? Quran 02: 256 There is no Compulsion in religion….

OR

Quran 9: 29 Fight those who do not profess the true faith(Islam) till they pay the polltax (jiziya) with the hand of humility.

Quran 9: 5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolators wherever ye find them and take them captive, and besiege them and prepare for them each ambush….

Quran 47: 4 When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off their heads….

Quran 2: 191 And slay (kill) them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out such is the reward of those who suppress faith.

Quran 8: 65 O Apostle ! rouse the believers to the fight of….unbelievers.

Very often apologetics claim that, Islam is a religion of peace and there is no compulsion. Yet punishment of an apostate in Islam is, of course, death penalty.

In very many Ayats Allah claimed that, He has given this Quran in the easy and clear language so that, it will not be difficult to understand by the ordinary Arabs.

Quran 44: 58 Verily, We have made This Quran easy in the tongue, in order that they may give heed.

No matter which translated Quran we read, the Quranic materials remain the same to us and every sentence is self explanatory and it does not take a rocket scientist to comprehend what is the message Allah wanted to transmit for Arabs. Yet, bigot Mullahs will always blame translators for Quranic contradictions/errors/inconsistencies etc. and will try to find lame excuses to cover up Allah’s ignorance.

Comments: The Holy Qur’an is full of inaccuracies, contradictions, inconsistencies, redundancies, no chronology or chapters, grammatical errors, etc. One can find hundreds of contradictions/errors/inconsistencies in the Holy Quran. The above-mentioned Ayats are just selected samples from the Quran. But still it is a miracle to those who are blindfolded bigots.

“ The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract.”- Oliver Wendell Holmes

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“HOW CAN JESUS BE GOD WHEN HE DID THINGS GOD DOESN’T OR WON’T DO?” After all, the Bible itself teaches…

Jesus talked about God as “my God,” (John 20:17) but God has no God.
Jesus prayed to God instead of to himself.
Jesus was submitted to God instead of to himself.
Jesus got tired (John 4:6; Matthew 8:24), but God doesn’t get tired (Psalm 121:4; Isaiah 40:28).
Jesus was tempted by the devil (Matt. 4:1 & Heb. 4:15), but God cannot be tempted (James 1:13).
Jesus got hungry and thirsty (Matt. 4:2; John 19:28), but God never gets hungry or thirsty. (Psalm 50:9-13; Acts 17:25).
Jesus learned obedience and grew up into a mature and perfect man (Hebrews 5:9), but God never changes (James 1:17).
Jesus was born and also died, but God is everlasting.
Jesus was confined to one human body, but God is omnipresent.

WHY DO MUSLIMS THINK THIS WAY? See the Qur’an’s teaching:

(Sura 2:255) “God! There is no God but He – the living, the self-subsisting, eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep … and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them …”

(Sura 5:116) “And behold God will say, ‘O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, “Worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of God”?’ He will say, ‘Glory to Thee! Never could I say what I had no right (to say).’”

(Sura 5:72) “They do blaspheme who say, ‘God is Christ the son of Mary.’ But said Christ, ‘O Children of Israel! Worship God, my Lord and your Lord.’ Whoever joins other gods with God, God will forbid him the garden, and the fire will be his abode.”

As one Muslim wrote, “… it is … demeaning to call God a human! God literally contained in a man named Jesus? God needing sleep? God needing food? God falling on His Face in prayer? To whom? God going to the bathroom? God being born from between the legs of a woman? God at the mercy of His enemies; being spit upon, beaten, mocked? God dying? God a man?”

1) Jesus, The Perfect Human Being:

The description of Jesus we read in the Injil is the description of One who became a human being – who “became flesh” (John 1:1-3,14). It does not say that a man somehow made himself God (impossible!); it says God caused His eternal Word to became a human being (for God anything is possible!). Jesus became a real man. He was not an apparition, nor was he just pretending to be a man. In Hebrews 2:17 it says Jesus became like us “in every way.” In Hebrews 4:15 it further explains that He “in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin.” He became bone of our bone and flesh of our flesh! Therefore He did things we do and lived with the limitations we live with. If he didn’t do those things he would be God simply disguised as a man – only a virtual man; a “let’s pretend” man; not really one of us.

Jesus is Almighty God, but for our sake He chose to also become a real human being. At any time He could have used His powers as God, but He chose instead to function as a human being with only the abilities and limitations of a human being. He was still God and could have used His divine powers, but instead by choice He became a human being able to die (God cannot die) as a substitute for mankind. He did this for us!

“For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sake he became poor, so that you by his poverty might become rich.” (2 Corinthians 8:9)

He voluntarily took upon himself our humanity, in order to become a perfect substitute able to die in our place. In that way He could deliver us from death and the power of Satan over us:

“Since therefore the children share in flesh and blood, he himself likewise partook of the same things, that through death he might destroy the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil, and deliver all those who through fear of death were subject to lifelong slavery.” (Hebrews 2:14,15)

From the beginning the people of God had offered animal sacrifices, which only temporarily covered their sins. We needed a sinless and perfect human being, not an animal, to be our substitute. Since there was no sinless human being and God cannot die, He provided a perfect substitute to die for us by sending his eternal Word to become a real human being, living a sinless life in a real human body:

“For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins. Consequently, when Christ came into the world, he said, ‘(animal) Sacrifices and offerings you have not desired, but a (human) body have you prepared for me …’” (Hebrews 10:4,5)

The description of Jesus we read in the Injil is the description of a perfect human being, confined within a human body, subject to all the limitations of humanity, but living as a sinless man of God, fully trusting in God and empowered by God:

In becoming a human being, He fulfilled God’s will by being born of a woman after nine months in her womb; a helpless infant. (Philippians 2:5-7; 2 Corinthians 8:9)
As a human being submitted to God, He began life not knowing everything, but slowly learning as He grew in knowledge and maturity. (Luke 2:52; John 5:6)
As a normal human being, He got hungry, thirsty, tired and sleepy.
As a human being trusting God, He was filled with God’s Holy Spirit. (Luke 4:1,14; Matthew 12:17,18)
As a human being submitted to His “Father”, He prayed to God. (Luke 6:12)
As a human being walking with God, He experienced (and resisted) every temptation to sin we experience. (Hebrews 4:15)
As a human being taught and empowered by God (instead of his own power) He performed miracles (Luke 5:17; Matthew 9:8), perceived wisdom and powerfully taught God’s truth to people.
And as a human being surrendered to God’s will (Luke 22:42) and empowered by God, He entered into death and came back to life again (1 Corinthians 6:14; Ephesians 1:19,20; Colossians 2:12), conquering death and Satan, in order to give us eternal life.
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Before you assume if there is a God or Not

Before you Describe What is God and what he is like

Before you Disbelieve in any other Creatures ( Demons, Angels and Whatever) or after-lives

Always Remember....

-That our eyes cannot see more than 0.00001% from what is really there..

-That our eyes only see a very short range from the electromagnetic spectrum.. about 1% or less from it .. anyhow its infinite..

-That we are limited in a 3D dimension reality.. From how many ? We are not sure !! But cannot even visualize what is there in the higher dimensions or even what it could look like...

-That we live in an infinite universe that mean an infinite number of possibilities,, in other words,, we are living in world do not know the term impossible..

But only one thing that you should have an ultimate believe in it.. that there so much beyond what you see and think...

Do not waste you time in seeking to disbelieve in the 99.9999999% that you cannot see or reach

Think beyond and seek for reasons to Believe and you will find 99.9999999999% of reasons to help you believe..

[ But they have rejected a thing they could not comprehend with knowledge, while its ultimate end has not appeared to them as yet.] [Quran 10:39]

Peace to everyone
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The Quran is a cheap copy of the Bible.
Can't believe you are blind to this fact.
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I don't want to argue with you now about the Quran. plus my topic is not about the Quran..i am just quoting from it,, consider it as if i quote from any famous Arthur or book..

So please stay focused to the major content of the topic
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allow me,

western science is based on what was recoverd and learned by christian scholars from muslim scientists who had preserved and studied ancient greek and indian manuscripts; rejecting a book from the lack of apprehension is a common form of fear.

on topic,

not only are our senses limited compared to what we know is out there but also our understanding is limited by the lack of truth.

"believe it or not - who created taxes"

there is however a god
that all must bow to
or civilization will perish
and that god is the law

~H
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There's only one god and that's your Ego, goes for all religions.
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Show me god!

You can't the same as others can not show you there ego

One love one race
peace and love all x
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I am blind in one eye. I have been that way since birth due to a "Lazy" eye. What this has left me with is one dimensional vision. I have no depth perception and therefore see everything as most would see a picture on the wall. I did not know what 3D looked like until I went on a 3D ride at Universal Studios. Needless to say, it blew my mind.

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I would like further explanation regarding this.

If someone is blind in one eye they have monocular vision as opposed to stereoscopic vision with both eyes. Monocular vision does not eliminate the ability to perceive depth; instead, the various other visual cues a person uses to determine depth are still available to be utilized. Stereoscopic vision allows the brain to merge two images from slightly different perspectives and, obviously, is the best of the various visual cues that help identify the third dimension of depth.

While monocular vision is often referred to as “seeing in only one dimension”, that itself is a misnomer. The more accurate, yet still not technically correct phrasing would be “seeing in only two dimensions”.

My question to the OP regards the assertion that you “...did not know what 3D looked like until [going] on a 3D ride at Universal Studios.”

As I also have monocular vision, I am slightly bemused by that statement.

If the attraction at the theme park was 3-D and required riders to wear “3-D glasses” of any sort, it would be physically impossible for someone with monocular vision to perceive the illusion of depth that two eyes and special lens allows those with stereoscopic vision to perceive.

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Having just noticed the date of the original post, I now know a reply will not be forthcoming. I am left wondering how I arrived at this thread in the first place.
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The quran is crap, not worthy enough to wipe my ass

or in other words, you're following satan's lies

Thread: Proof that the Bible is Supernaturally Designed, fulfilling Prophecy in this Thread (Page 14)

YESHUA

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1 - 416

1 - 12

Verse Order Number / Book Name / Verse Total - Greek / pi - phi

1) 28340 Romans 7432 > 16 > 7 phi

2) 24372 Mark 10472 > 14 > 5 pi

3) 24201 Matthew 7928 > "26" > 8 pi

4) 26870 John 13761 > 18 > 9 phi

5) 29117 Galatians 10800 > 9 pi

6) 26982 Acts 6336 > 18 > 9 pi

7) 30496 2Peter 16300 > 10 > 1 pi

8) 29468 Colossians 12832 > 16 > 7 phi

9) 24616 Matthew 11932 > 16 > 7 phi

10) 25362 Luke 12787 > 25 > 7 phi

11) 26806 John 18680 > 23 > 5 phi

12) 25729 Luke 9582 > 24 > 6 phi

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